Re: New Project - MICO

2009-07-24 Thread Soner Tari
On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 20:20 +, Astrid SC!nchez wrote:
 [1].
 http://www.openbsdcolombia.org/mico In spanish

Reads PFSENSE ... COMIXWALL ... son ... systemas operativos
modificados. With beginner level Spanish of mine, I understand there is
a confusion here. ComixWall approach is completely different from
pfSense. (In fact, that's why I started the ComixWall project.)

ComixWall is NOT a *modified* OpenBSD.

Underneath ComixWall is an untouched, pure -stable OpenBSD. In fact, if
you don't select siteXY.tgz install set, you can install OpenBSD only.
If you have doubts, just roll your own -stable sets, and upgrade a
ComixWall installation to them (MD5s should match as well, afaik).

For example, that's why siteXY.tgz set is not selected by default during
ComixWall installation. Why? Because that would mean that I modify the
install.sub in the original bsd.rd.

In short, ComixWall provides a web interface, some extra UTM services
(which do not exist in the OpenBSD ports collection yet), and default
configuration files. (Furthermore, ComixWall does not use any
intermediary between the web interface and configuration files, but
directly modifies the text configuration files, i.e. no XML as in
pfSense.)

Just wanted to clear the air.



Re: New Project - MICO

2009-07-23 Thread Michal
I liked the video, I liked the concept, I give you more credit for using ogv
and I will defiantly have a look at MICO...but please...for love of atheism,
please dont keep highlighting bits of text if you make another one...it
made it incredibly tedious to watch at times.

All credit to the fact it's very simple to understand...so with this in
mind, when you type history we know what it is your doing and do not need
to highlight this...Just a little heads up, I know I am really am nit
picking but I've seen so many people do presentations, videos etc badly and
you end up hurting your self more. :)

-Original Message-
From: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] On Behalf Of
Fernando Quintero
Sent: 22 July 2009 23:22
To: tico
Cc: Astrid Sanchez; misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: New Project - MICO

Hi Tico, Im working in the project too.

Basically, how do you add new commands  to nsh?, coding in c?, the
idea is use a .xml file with easy fields.

And, We Think nsh is used more for routing services,like BGP, OSPF,
etc, with mico the idea is configure system's stuff and services
installed with the base system, like dhcp, dns, vpn, nfs, ssh, etc.

these are some ideas about, what we want to do.

2009/7/22 tico tico-o...@raapid.net:
 Astrid Sanchez wrote:

 Here in Colombia started some months ago the development of a
 new project called MICO. It's purpose is create a CLI to configure
 services on
 OpenBSD. MICO was presented in Campus Party Colombia and you can see the
 slides on [1], also the screencast showing the functionality implemented
 so
 far in [2].


 Hello Astrid,

 I've read your slides, but it's not clear to me what advantage MICO has
over
 nsh[A],
 which already is a CLI that configures services on OpenBSD and is well
 integrated.

 Certainly you're free to write whatever CLI or management scripts you
want,
 but I was curious why you wanted to start over? What problem with nsh are
 you trying to fix?

 !Saludos!
 Tico

 [A] http://www.nmedia.net/nsh/





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Re: New Project - MICO

2009-07-23 Thread James
Fernando Quintero fernando.a.quintero at gmail.com writes:

...
 
 And, We Think nsh is used more for routing services,like BGP, OSPF,
 etc, with mico the idea is configure system's stuff and services
 installed with the base system, like dhcp, dns, vpn, nfs, ssh, etc.
 

Aside from the fact that this is largely ground already covered, a few 
other things worth mentioning:  there is already an opensource project
named MICO (an opensource Corba ORM implementation) which is in
ports/devel/mico; also if your aim is to manage the base system, why not
make it less dependent on external packages (especially something like 
python)), when Perl is already part of base and is rumoured to be quite
good at managing unix-like systems already.



Re: New Project - MICO

2009-07-22 Thread tico

Astrid Sanchez wrote:

Here in Colombia started some months ago the development of a
new project called MICO. It's purpose is create a CLI to configure services on
OpenBSD. MICO was presented in Campus Party Colombia and you can see the
slides on [1], also the screencast showing the functionality implemented so
far in [2].
  

Hello Astrid,

I've read your slides, but it's not clear to me what advantage MICO has 
over nsh[A],
which already is a CLI that configures services on OpenBSD and is well 
integrated.


Certainly you're free to write whatever CLI or management scripts you 
want, but I was curious why you wanted to start over? What problem with 
nsh are you trying to fix?


!Saludos!
Tico

[A] http://www.nmedia.net/nsh/



Re: New Project - MICO

2009-07-22 Thread Fernando Quintero
Hi Tico, Im working in the project too.

Basically, how do you add new commands  to nsh?, coding in c?, the
idea is use a .xml file with easy fields.

And, We Think nsh is used more for routing services,like BGP, OSPF,
etc, with mico the idea is configure system's stuff and services
installed with the base system, like dhcp, dns, vpn, nfs, ssh, etc.

these are some ideas about, what we want to do.

2009/7/22 tico tico-o...@raapid.net:
 Astrid Sanchez wrote:

 Here in Colombia started some months ago the development of a
 new project called MICO. It's purpose is create a CLI to configure
 services on
 OpenBSD. MICO was presented in Campus Party Colombia and you can see the
 slides on [1], also the screencast showing the functionality implemented
 so
 far in [2].


 Hello Astrid,

 I've read your slides, but it's not clear to me what advantage MICO has over
 nsh[A],
 which already is a CLI that configures services on OpenBSD and is well
 integrated.

 Certainly you're free to write whatever CLI or management scripts you want,
 but I was curious why you wanted to start over? What problem with nsh are
 you trying to fix?

 !Saludos!
 Tico

 [A] http://www.nmedia.net/nsh/





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http://nonroot.blogspot.com/
*Just a nonroot User*



Re: New Project - MICO

2009-07-22 Thread Chris Kuethe
Have a look in the ports@ archive for clish...

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Fernando Quintero
fernando.a.quint...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Tico, Im working in the project too.

 Basically, how do you add new commands  to nsh?, coding in c?, the
 idea is use a .xml file with easy fields.

 And, We Think nsh is used more for routing services,like BGP, OSPF,
 etc, with mico the idea is configure system's stuff and services
 installed with the base system, like dhcp, dns, vpn, nfs, ssh, etc.

 these are some ideas about, what we want to do.

 2009/7/22 tico tico-o...@raapid.net:
  Astrid Sanchez wrote:
 
  Here in Colombia started some months ago the development of a
  new project called MICO. It's purpose is create a CLI to configure
  services on
  OpenBSD. MICO was presented in Campus Party Colombia and you can see the
  slides on [1], also the screencast showing the functionality implemented
  so
  far in [2].
 
 
  Hello Astrid,
 
  I've read your slides, but it's not clear to me what advantage MICO has
over
  nsh[A],
  which already is a CLI that configures services on OpenBSD and is well
  integrated.
 
  Certainly you're free to write whatever CLI or management scripts you
want,
  but I was curious why you wanted to start over? What problem with nsh are
  you trying to fix?
 
  !Saludos!
  Tico
 
  [A] http://www.nmedia.net/nsh/
 
 



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New Project - MICO

2009-07-21 Thread Astrid Sánchez
Hi everyone,


Here in Colombia started some months ago the development of a
new project called MICO. It's purpose is create a CLI to configure services on
OpenBSD. MICO was presented in Campus Party Colombia and you can see the
slides on [1], also the screencast showing the functionality implemented so
far in [2].

Those interested in the project, can join the development team.
Mico is made in phyton, any further information can be ask to
nonr...@openbsdcolombia.org, also you can check [3].

[1].
http://www.openbsdcolombia.org/mico In spanish
[2].
http://www.openbsdcolombia.org/screencast/mico.ogv
[3].
http://www.openbsdcolombia.org/?q=node/92  - In spanish