Re: OpenBSD sticker considered cool by a layman
On 29/09/2007, Karel Kulhavy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some (cute) girl yesterday who doesn't understand computers at all pointed at my laptop and asked where did you get this damned cool sticker? I guess the question on all of our minds is, did you get her number? :P -- Best Regards Edd --- http://students.dec.bournemouth.ac.uk/ebarrett
Re: OpenBSD sticker considered cool by a layman
Hello! On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 10:29:30PM -0500, Todd Alan Smith wrote: On 10/1/07, Anton Karpov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have nothing to hide ;) http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=998565 Cool link... Information about an article about privacy, and for downloading it you need javascript and whatever more... (I didn't manage to get the full text). *somewhat annoyed* Kind regards, Hannah.
Re: OpenBSD sticker considered cool by a layman
On 10/2/07, Hannah Schroeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 10:29:30PM -0500, Todd Alan Smith wrote: On 10/1/07, Anton Karpov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have nothing to hide ;) http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=998565 Cool link... Information about an article about privacy, and for downloading it you need javascript and whatever more... (I didn't manage to get the full text). Not to mention no download unless registration. Sort of makes the whole excercise rather pointless (if the point wasn't to laugh at gullible people). -- Eke Nordin Unix/net geek, Netia.se consultant, Stacken member. Damian Conway: The programmer is fighting against the two most destructive forces in the universe: entropy and human stupidity.
Re: OpenBSD sticker considered cool by a layman
Eke Nordin wrote: On 10/2/07, Hannah Schroeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 10:29:30PM -0500, Todd Alan Smith wrote: On 10/1/07, Anton Karpov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have nothing to hide ;) http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=998565 Cool link... Information about an article about privacy, and for downloading it you need javascript and whatever more... (I didn't manage to get the full text). Not to mention no download unless registration. Sort of makes the whole excercise rather pointless (if the point wasn't to laugh at gullible people). Scroll down a bit further - the PDF downloads do not require registration.
Re: OpenBSD sticker considered cool by a layman
On 02.10-15:43, ?ke Nordin wrote: [ ... ] http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=998565 Cool link... Information about an article about privacy, and for downloading it you need javascript and whatever more... (I didn't manage to get the full text). Not to mention no download unless registration. just for the record i managed without any trouble. and don't think it required javascript either.
Re: OpenBSD sticker considered cool by a layman
On 10/2/07, Nick Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/2/07, Eke Nordin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/2/07, Hannah Schroeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 10:29:30PM -0500, Todd Alan Smith wrote: On 10/1/07, Anton Karpov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have nothing to hide ;) http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=998565 Cool link... Information about an article about privacy, and for downloading it you need javascript and whatever more... (I didn't manage to get the full text). Not to mention no download unless registration. Sort of makes the whole excercise rather pointless (if the point wasn't to laugh at gullible people). Yes, I thought that too, but then I just noticed the download links on the left. Here is a direct link to the one I downloaded--no javascript needed. Tell me if it works for you: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/Delivery.cfm/SSRN_ID998565_code249137.pdf?abstrac tid=998565mirid=1 It's flaky at best for me. Didn't work at all from the office, worked once from home. I read the download difficulties, click here when it didn't work at the office. That page states that download requires registration and login, which apparently isn't exactly the truth. Whatever. Thanks for the support and clarifications, the paper seems (after the most superficial skimming) well worth the effort to read. Now returning to normal mode of silent, stumped lurking. -- Eke Nordin Unix/net geek, Netia.se consultant, Stacken member. Damian Conway: The programmer is fighting against the two most destructive forces in the universe: entropy and human stupidity.
Re: OpenBSD sticker considered cool by a layman
On 10/2/07, Eke Nordin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/2/07, Nick Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/2/07, Eke Nordin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/2/07, Hannah Schroeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 10:29:30PM -0500, Todd Alan Smith wrote: On 10/1/07, Anton Karpov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have nothing to hide ;) http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=998565 Cool link... Information about an article about privacy, and for downloading it you need javascript and whatever more... (I didn't manage to get the full text). Not to mention no download unless registration. Sort of makes the whole excercise rather pointless (if the point wasn't to laugh at gullible people). Yes, I thought that too, but then I just noticed the download links on the left. Here is a direct link to the one I downloaded--no javascript needed. Tell me if it works for you: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/Delivery.cfm/SSRN_ID998565_code249137.pdf?abstrac tid=998565mirid=1 It's flaky at best for me. Didn't work at all from the office, worked once from home. I read the download difficulties, click here when it didn't work at the office. That page states that download requires registration and login, which apparently isn't exactly the truth. Whatever. Thanks for the support and clarifications, the paper seems (after the most superficial skimming) well worth the effort to read. Now returning to normal mode of silent, stumped lurking. Indeed, it is well worth the read; downloading it requires neither registration nor the employment of JavaScript. (I, too, had difficulty determining how to download it when I first stumbled upon the page. Poor page design, perhaps. Anyway, I should have clued everybody in when I posted the link.)
Re: OpenBSD sticker considered cool by a layman
On 30.09-10:03, Anton Karpov wrote: [ ... ] The same here. I have wireframe puffy on the back of my car. VERY attractive: of course, if you were _really_ security conscious you would have cropped the license plate no ;-)
Re: OpenBSD sticker considered cool by a layman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30.09-10:03, Anton Karpov wrote: [ ... ] The same here. I have wireframe puffy on the back of my car. VERY attractive: of course, if you were _really_ security conscious you would have cropped the license plate no ;-) we have 50cm diameter puffy stickers on both sides of our landrover defender. a real eyecatcher.
Re: OpenBSD sticker considered cool by a layman
On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 06:18:39PM +0200, Marc Balmer wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30.09-10:03, Anton Karpov wrote: [ ... ] The same here. I have wireframe puffy on the back of my car. VERY attractive: of course, if you were _really_ security conscious you would have cropped the license plate no ;-) we have 50cm diameter puffy stickers on both sides of our landrover defender. a real eyecatcher. It's definitely an eyecatcher: http://www.stilyagin.com/OpenBSD/dsc02748.jpg Warning: large image!!! -- Darrin Chandler| Phoenix BSD User Group | MetaBUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://phxbug.org/ | http://metabug.org/ http://www.stilyagin.com/ | Daemons in the Desert | Global BUG Federation
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i have nothing to hide ;) ps: landrover rocks... 2007/10/1, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 30.09-10:03, Anton Karpov wrote: [ ... ] The same here. I have wireframe puffy on the back of my car. VERY attractive: of course, if you were _really_ security conscious you would have cropped the license plate no ;-)
Re: OpenBSD sticker considered cool by a layman
On 10/1/07, Anton Karpov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have nothing to hide ;) http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=998565
Re: OpenBSD sticker considered cool by a layman
2007/9/29, Greg Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 9/29/07, Karel Kulhavy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some (cute) girl yesterday who doesn't understand computers at all pointed at my laptop and asked where did you get this damned cool sticker? It was the wireframe Puffy. People also tend to stare at Puffy when I use my laptop on the bus. My experience is the same. Any time I wear my wireframe Puffy shirt a few people a day come up to me and get a closer look, same with the laptop sticker when I have my laptop with me. The same here. I have wireframe puffy on the back of my car. VERY attractive: http://www.toxahost.ru/images/offroad/brabus/resized_P2010010.JPG
OpenBSD sticker considered cool by a layman
Some (cute) girl yesterday who doesn't understand computers at all pointed at my laptop and asked where did you get this damned cool sticker? It was the wireframe Puffy. People also tend to stare at Puffy when I use my laptop on the bus. I think this confirms that the stickers are really good design. I also have an O'Nell sticker on my laptop (surfing company). I guess it means that O'Neill with their undoubtedly huge budget are #2 in coolness here. Would it be possible to make a sticker with this picture, but with the small letters removed and the large ones all in one size? http://openbsd.org/images/tshirt-23.gif I would like to have the OPENBSD label under Puffy so people know what this is, put it into google etc. But don't want the details, cause they sound a bit like an advert. I am glad that I can proudly put OpenBSD stickers on my stuff without feeling like an infantile nerd, which would definitely happen with the Linux logo. Personally, the feeling or message I am getting from these stickers is we're not sloppy, we want to do everything well, including graphics design. In marketing terms, it makes an impression that OpenBSD has a good corporate identity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_identity). CL
Re: OpenBSD sticker considered cool by a layman
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007, Karel Kulhavy wrote: Personally, the feeling or message I am getting from these stickers is we're not sloppy, we want to do everything well, including graphics design. In marketing terms, it makes an impression that OpenBSD has a good corporate identity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_identity). Speaking as an OpenBSD developer, I can assure you that OpenBSD would become much less attractive to spend time on if it was run like a company. I think what we produce (software and and other stuff) is high quality because we like what we do. Having fun (yes, developing is a weird kind of fun for me) is important to me. Take away the fun factor and OpenBSD falls apart. -Otto
Re: OpenBSD sticker considered cool by a layman
On 9/29/07, Otto Moerbeek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 29 Sep 2007, Karel Kulhavy wrote: Personally, the feeling or message I am getting from these stickers is we're not sloppy, we want to do everything well, including graphics design. In marketing terms, it makes an impression that OpenBSD has a good corporate identity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_identity). Speaking as an OpenBSD developer, I can assure you that OpenBSD would become much less attractive to spend time on if it was run like a company. I think what we produce (software and and other stuff) is high quality because we like what we do. good corporate identity != run like a corporation The corporate in corporate identity should be taken literally. Or rather, the metaphor should be divested of any associations with private, profit-seeking organizations. A good corporate identity is about clarity of message; there's no reason that message can't be what OpenBSD is really about. In my view OpenBSD has an excellent identity and message - clear, narrow focus on a small and easily understandable set of concepts (security by default, unencumbered, quality, etc.) and a variety of well-designed and executed graphic images unified by a well-chosen icon. In fact the great virtue of that is that it obviates the need for top-down discipline in getting the message out. Anybody who wants to evangelize the unwashed will have no problem figuring out what message to convey. No reason to fear that. -g
Re: OpenBSD sticker considered cool by a layman
On 9/29/07, Karel Kulhavy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some (cute) girl yesterday who doesn't understand computers at all pointed at my laptop and asked where did you get this damned cool sticker? It was the wireframe Puffy. People also tend to stare at Puffy when I use my laptop on the bus. My experience is the same. Any time I wear my wireframe Puffy shirt a few people a day come up to me and get a closer look, same with the laptop sticker when I have my laptop with me. Greg -- Ticketmaster and Ticketweb suck, but everyone knows that: http://ticketmastersucks.org Dethink to survive - Mclusky