Re: OpenBSD sticker considered cool by a layman

2007-10-02 Thread Edd Barrett
On 29/09/2007, Karel Kulhavy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Some (cute) girl yesterday who doesn't understand computers at all pointed at
 my laptop and asked where did you get this damned cool sticker?

I guess the question on all of our minds is, did you get her number? :P

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Re: OpenBSD sticker considered cool by a layman

2007-10-02 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hello!

On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 10:29:30PM -0500, Todd Alan Smith wrote:
On 10/1/07, Anton Karpov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i have nothing to hide ;)

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=998565

Cool link... Information about an article about privacy, and for
downloading it you need javascript and whatever more... (I didn't manage
to get the full text).

*somewhat annoyed*

Kind regards,

Hannah.



Re: OpenBSD sticker considered cool by a layman

2007-10-02 Thread Åke Nordin
On 10/2/07, Hannah Schroeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello!

 On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 10:29:30PM -0500, Todd Alan Smith wrote:
 On 10/1/07, Anton Karpov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  i have nothing to hide ;)

 http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=998565

 Cool link... Information about an article about privacy, and for
 downloading it you need javascript and whatever more... (I didn't manage
 to get the full text).

Not to mention no download unless registration.

Sort of makes the whole excercise rather pointless (if the point
wasn't to laugh at gullible people).

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destructive forces in the universe: entropy and human stupidity.



Re: OpenBSD sticker considered cool by a layman

2007-10-02 Thread Frank Bax

Eke Nordin wrote:

On 10/2/07, Hannah Schroeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello!

On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 10:29:30PM -0500, Todd Alan Smith wrote:

On 10/1/07, Anton Karpov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

i have nothing to hide ;)

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=998565

Cool link... Information about an article about privacy, and for
downloading it you need javascript and whatever more... (I didn't manage
to get the full text).


Not to mention no download unless registration.

Sort of makes the whole excercise rather pointless (if the point
wasn't to laugh at gullible people).



Scroll down a bit further - the PDF downloads do not require registration.



Re: OpenBSD sticker considered cool by a layman

2007-10-02 Thread ttw+bsd
On 02.10-15:43, ?ke Nordin wrote:
[ ... ]
  http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=998565
 
  Cool link... Information about an article about privacy, and for
  downloading it you need javascript and whatever more... (I didn't manage
  to get the full text).
 
 Not to mention no download unless registration.

just for the record i managed without any trouble. and don't think
it required javascript either.



Re: OpenBSD sticker considered cool by a layman

2007-10-02 Thread Åke Nordin
On 10/2/07, Nick Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 10/2/07, Eke Nordin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 10/2/07, Hannah Schroeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hello!
  
   On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 10:29:30PM -0500, Todd Alan Smith wrote:
   On 10/1/07, Anton Karpov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i have nothing to hide ;)
  
   http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=998565
  
   Cool link... Information about an article about privacy, and for
   downloading it you need javascript and whatever more... (I didn't
manage
   to get the full text).
 
  Not to mention no download unless registration.
 
  Sort of makes the whole excercise rather pointless (if the point
  wasn't to laugh at gullible people).

 Yes, I thought that too, but then I just noticed the download links on
 the left. Here is a direct link to the one I downloaded--no javascript
 needed. Tell me if it works for you:

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/Delivery.cfm/SSRN_ID998565_code249137.pdf?abstrac
tid=998565mirid=1

It's flaky at best for me. Didn't work at all from the office, worked
once from home. I read the download difficulties, click here when
it didn't work at the office. That page states that download requires
registration and login, which apparently isn't exactly the truth.

Whatever. Thanks for the support and clarifications, the paper seems
(after the most superficial skimming) well worth the effort to read. Now
returning to normal mode of silent, stumped lurking.

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Damian Conway: The programmer is fighting against the two most
destructive forces in the universe: entropy and human stupidity.



Re: OpenBSD sticker considered cool by a layman

2007-10-02 Thread Todd Alan Smith
On 10/2/07, Eke Nordin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 10/2/07, Nick Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 10/2/07, Eke Nordin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On 10/2/07, Hannah Schroeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello!
   
On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 10:29:30PM -0500, Todd Alan Smith wrote:
On 10/1/07, Anton Karpov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i have nothing to hide ;)
   
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=998565
   
Cool link... Information about an article about privacy, and for
downloading it you need javascript and whatever more... (I didn't
 manage
to get the full text).
  
   Not to mention no download unless registration.
  
   Sort of makes the whole excercise rather pointless (if the point
   wasn't to laugh at gullible people).
 
  Yes, I thought that too, but then I just noticed the download links on
  the left. Here is a direct link to the one I downloaded--no javascript
  needed. Tell me if it works for you:
 

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/Delivery.cfm/SSRN_ID998565_code249137.pdf?abstrac
 tid=998565mirid=1

 It's flaky at best for me. Didn't work at all from the office, worked
 once from home. I read the download difficulties, click here when
 it didn't work at the office. That page states that download requires
 registration and login, which apparently isn't exactly the truth.

 Whatever. Thanks for the support and clarifications, the paper seems
 (after the most superficial skimming) well worth the effort to read. Now
 returning to normal mode of silent, stumped lurking.

Indeed, it is well worth the read; downloading it requires neither
registration nor the employment of JavaScript. (I, too, had difficulty
determining how to download it when I first stumbled upon the page.
Poor page design, perhaps. Anyway, I should have clued everybody in
when I posted the link.)



Re: OpenBSD sticker considered cool by a layman

2007-10-01 Thread ttw+bsd
On 30.09-10:03, Anton Karpov wrote:
[ ... ]
 The same here. I have wireframe puffy on the back of my car. VERY
 attractive:

of course, if you were _really_ security conscious you would have
cropped the license plate no
;-)



Re: OpenBSD sticker considered cool by a layman

2007-10-01 Thread Marc Balmer

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 30.09-10:03, Anton Karpov wrote:
[ ... ]

The same here. I have wireframe puffy on the back of my car. VERY
attractive:


of course, if you were _really_ security conscious you would have
cropped the license plate no
;-)


we have 50cm diameter puffy stickers on both sides of our landrover
defender.  a real eyecatcher.



Re: OpenBSD sticker considered cool by a layman

2007-10-01 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 06:18:39PM +0200, Marc Balmer wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 30.09-10:03, Anton Karpov wrote:
 [ ... ]
 The same here. I have wireframe puffy on the back of my car. VERY
 attractive:
 of course, if you were _really_ security conscious you would have
 cropped the license plate no
  ;-)

 we have 50cm diameter puffy stickers on both sides of our landrover
 defender.  a real eyecatcher.

It's definitely an eyecatcher:

http://www.stilyagin.com/OpenBSD/dsc02748.jpg

Warning: large image!!!

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Ответ: OpenBSD sticker considered cool by a layman

2007-10-01 Thread Anton Karpov
i have nothing to hide ;)
ps: landrover rocks...

2007/10/1, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On 30.09-10:03, Anton Karpov wrote:
 [ ... ]
  The same here. I have wireframe puffy on the back of my car. VERY
  attractive:

 of course, if you were _really_ security conscious you would have
 cropped the license plate no
   ;-)



Re: OpenBSD sticker considered cool by a layman

2007-10-01 Thread Todd Alan Smith
On 10/1/07, Anton Karpov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i have nothing to hide ;)

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=998565



Re: OpenBSD sticker considered cool by a layman

2007-09-30 Thread Anton Karpov
2007/9/29, Greg Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On 9/29/07, Karel Kulhavy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Some (cute) girl yesterday who doesn't understand computers at all
 pointed at
  my laptop and asked where did you get this damned cool sticker? It was
 the
  wireframe Puffy. People also tend to stare at Puffy when I use my laptop
 on
  the bus.
 

 My experience is the same.  Any time I wear my wireframe Puffy shirt a
 few people a day come up to me and get a closer look, same with the
 laptop sticker when I have my laptop with me.



The same here. I have wireframe puffy on the back of my car. VERY
attractive:

http://www.toxahost.ru/images/offroad/brabus/resized_P2010010.JPG



OpenBSD sticker considered cool by a layman

2007-09-29 Thread Karel Kulhavy
Some (cute) girl yesterday who doesn't understand computers at all pointed at
my laptop and asked where did you get this damned cool sticker? It was the
wireframe Puffy. People also tend to stare at Puffy when I use my laptop on
the bus.

I think this confirms that the stickers are really good design. I also have an
O'Nell sticker on my laptop (surfing company). I guess it means that O'Neill
with their undoubtedly huge budget are #2 in coolness here.

Would it be possible to make a sticker with this picture, but with the
small letters removed and the large ones all in one size?
http://openbsd.org/images/tshirt-23.gif

I would like to have the OPENBSD label under Puffy so people know what this
is, put it into google etc. But don't want the details, cause they sound
a bit like an advert.

I am glad that I can proudly put OpenBSD stickers on my stuff without feeling
like an infantile nerd, which would definitely happen with the Linux logo.

Personally, the feeling or message I am getting from these stickers is we're
not sloppy, we want to do everything well, including graphics design.
In marketing terms, it makes an impression that OpenBSD has a good
corporate identity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_identity).

CL



Re: OpenBSD sticker considered cool by a layman

2007-09-29 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007, Karel Kulhavy wrote:

 Personally, the feeling or message I am getting from these stickers is we're
 not sloppy, we want to do everything well, including graphics design.
 In marketing terms, it makes an impression that OpenBSD has a good
 corporate identity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_identity).

Speaking as an OpenBSD developer, I can assure you that OpenBSD would
become much less attractive to spend time on if it was run like a
company. I think what we produce (software and and other stuff) is
high quality because we like what we do. 

Having fun (yes, developing is a weird kind of fun for me) is
important to me. Take away the fun factor and OpenBSD falls apart. 

-Otto



Re: OpenBSD sticker considered cool by a layman

2007-09-29 Thread Gregg Reynolds
On 9/29/07, Otto Moerbeek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, 29 Sep 2007, Karel Kulhavy wrote:

  Personally, the feeling or message I am getting from these stickers is 
  we're
  not sloppy, we want to do everything well, including graphics design.
  In marketing terms, it makes an impression that OpenBSD has a good
  corporate identity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_identity).

 Speaking as an OpenBSD developer, I can assure you that OpenBSD would
 become much less attractive to spend time on if it was run like a
 company. I think what we produce (software and and other stuff) is
 high quality because we like what we do.


good corporate identity != run like a corporation

The corporate in corporate identity should be taken literally.  Or
rather, the metaphor should be divested of any associations with
private, profit-seeking organizations.  A good corporate identity is
about clarity of message; there's no reason that message can't be what
OpenBSD is really about.

In my view OpenBSD has an excellent identity and message - clear,
narrow focus on a small and easily understandable set of concepts
(security by default, unencumbered, quality, etc.) and a variety of
well-designed and executed graphic images unified by a well-chosen
icon.  In fact the great virtue of that is that it obviates the need
for top-down discipline in getting the message out.  Anybody who wants
to evangelize the unwashed will have no problem figuring out what
message to convey.  No reason to fear that.

-g



Re: OpenBSD sticker considered cool by a layman

2007-09-29 Thread Greg Thomas
On 9/29/07, Karel Kulhavy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Some (cute) girl yesterday who doesn't understand computers at all pointed at
 my laptop and asked where did you get this damned cool sticker? It was the
 wireframe Puffy. People also tend to stare at Puffy when I use my laptop on
 the bus.


My experience is the same.  Any time I wear my wireframe Puffy shirt a
few people a day come up to me and get a closer look, same with the
laptop sticker when I have my laptop with me.

Greg
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