Re: RSS or Atom syndication for security advisories?
I use https://undeadly.org/errata/errata.rss Seems to work for the last 2 years G On 23/05/2023 13:13, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2023/05/23 09:35, Xavier wrote: >> I did not say that. I did not see that you in particular, or anyone in this >> mailing list, make this work. >> As a user, I simply suggest creating an RSS channel for security advisories >> and *even* I offer myself to help. >> >> The intention behind was to improve OpenBSD web. Simply. > The number of people who work on errata, for obvious reasons, needs > to be a small set of people that we know+trust. Sometimes (though > fortunately not all that often) that work is very delicate and needs to > be done quickly but carefully. High stress situation already. > > Adding extra steps to the errata process, to merely provide the same > information which is _already provided_ but just not in the format you > prefer (in the case of pages on www.openbsd.org) and not on the website > you prefer (in the case of the rss feed on undeadly.org), can't be of > more than minor benefit to you, and no benefit to most people who > already receive that information via other methods, yet it adds extra > steps (= work) for every erratum that is produced. > >> Perhaps it's me but I perceived some kind or rudeness in some responses. > After being given a workable answer (the rss feed on undeadly), you didn't > like it and asked volunteers to do even more work than they already do, to > mostly benefit you. Which I think some will consider a bit rude itself. > >> Oh! Come on! Why don't we concentrate in teach reasons and not in "I don't >> want to move my position". Do you think this kind of answer would benefit >> the project? > There's no need to concentrate on tech reasons because it's not a technical > problem. >
Re: RSS or Atom syndication for security advisories?
On 2023/05/23 09:35, Xavier wrote: > I did not say that. I did not see that you in particular, or anyone in this > mailing list, make this work. > As a user, I simply suggest creating an RSS channel for security advisories > and *even* I offer myself to help. > > The intention behind was to improve OpenBSD web. Simply. The number of people who work on errata, for obvious reasons, needs to be a small set of people that we know+trust. Sometimes (though fortunately not all that often) that work is very delicate and needs to be done quickly but carefully. High stress situation already. Adding extra steps to the errata process, to merely provide the same information which is _already provided_ but just not in the format you prefer (in the case of pages on www.openbsd.org) and not on the website you prefer (in the case of the rss feed on undeadly.org), can't be of more than minor benefit to you, and no benefit to most people who already receive that information via other methods, yet it adds extra steps (= work) for every erratum that is produced. > Perhaps it's me but I perceived some kind or rudeness in some responses. After being given a workable answer (the rss feed on undeadly), you didn't like it and asked volunteers to do even more work than they already do, to mostly benefit you. Which I think some will consider a bit rude itself. > Oh! Come on! Why don't we concentrate in teach reasons and not in "I don't > want to move my position". Do you think this kind of answer would benefit > the project? There's no need to concentrate on tech reasons because it's not a technical problem.
Re: RSS or Atom syndication for security advisories?
I did not say that. I did not see that you in particular, or anyone in this mailing list, make this work. As a user, I simply suggest creating an RSS channel for security advisories and *even* I offer myself to help. The intention behind was to improve OpenBSD web. Simply. I want to thank Brian and Hiltjo who gave me positives answers with resolutive comments. I missed some guide or collaboration in order to incorporate this change or at least talk about technical pros and cons. Perhaps it's me but I perceived some kind or rudeness in some responses. Oh! Come on! Why don't we concentrate in teach reasons and not in "I don't want to move my position". Do you think this kind of answer would benefit the project? Do you treat people in reality like in the web? Xavier A 22.05.2023 15:11, Theo de Raadt escrigué: I am not going to do any of this work you want. Good bye. Xavier wrote: "Theo de Raadt" said: > I'd be thrilled to do less work on errata! > How about we do RSS, and stop making errata? > We can do static RSS. > Configure and forget. I don't know if you say it seriously. If you do, I think it's the best. Perhaps you could write some semantic file and convert them to desired format (html, RSS, etc.). I saw the www repo (https://github.com/openbsd/www/blob/38884496ed89e3041dcaaeadaf21e20a918581ee/errata73.html) and it seems you make things manually. Don't you think an static site generator or some kind of tool to make things more automatic (I'm thinking in mandoc conversion because all the web is really a big documentation project)? Regards, Xavier
Re: RSS or Atom syndication for security advisories?
Thanks a lot, Brian. Very appreciated. So now the only work is to merge to www A 22.05.2023 15:50, Brian Conway escrigué: On Mon, May 22, 2023, at 9:59 AM, Xavier wrote: I don't know if you say it seriously. If you do, I think it's the best. Perhaps you could write some semantic file and convert them to desired format (html, RSS, etc.). I saw the www repo (https://github.com/openbsd/www/blob/38884496ed89e3041dcaaeadaf21e20a918581ee/errata73.html) and it seems you make things manually. Don't you think an static site generator or some kind of tool to make things more automatic (I'm thinking in mandoc conversion because all the web is really a big documentation project)? Regards, Xavier Done. https://www.mail-archive.com/announce@openbsd.org/maillist.xml Enjoy. Bye. -b
Re: RSS or Atom syndication for security advisories?
On Mon, May 22, 2023, at 9:59 AM, Xavier wrote: > I don't know if you say it seriously. If you do, I think it's the best. > Perhaps you could write some semantic file and convert them to desired > format (html, RSS, etc.). > I saw the www repo > (https://github.com/openbsd/www/blob/38884496ed89e3041dcaaeadaf21e20a918581ee/errata73.html) > > and it seems you make things manually. Don't you think an static site > generator or some kind of tool to make things more automatic (I'm > thinking in mandoc conversion because all the web is really a big > documentation project)? > > Regards, > Xavier Done. https://www.mail-archive.com/announce@openbsd.org/maillist.xml Enjoy. Bye. -b
Re: RSS or Atom syndication for security advisories?
I am not going to do any of this work you want. Good bye. Xavier wrote: > "Theo de Raadt" said: > > > I'd be thrilled to do less work on errata! > > How about we do RSS, and stop making errata? > > We can do static RSS. > > Configure and forget. > > I don't know if you say it seriously. If you do, I think it's the > best. Perhaps you could write some semantic file and convert them to > desired format (html, RSS, etc.). > I saw the www repo > (https://github.com/openbsd/www/blob/38884496ed89e3041dcaaeadaf21e20a918581ee/errata73.html) > and it seems you make things manually. Don't you think an static site > generator or some kind of tool to make things more automatic (I'm > thinking in mandoc conversion because all the web is really a big > documentation project)? > > Regards, > Xavier
Re: RSS or Atom syndication for security advisories?
"Theo de Raadt" said: I'd be thrilled to do less work on errata! How about we do RSS, and stop making errata? We can do static RSS. Configure and forget. I don't know if you say it seriously. If you do, I think it's the best. Perhaps you could write some semantic file and convert them to desired format (html, RSS, etc.). I saw the www repo (https://github.com/openbsd/www/blob/38884496ed89e3041dcaaeadaf21e20a918581ee/errata73.html) and it seems you make things manually. Don't you think an static site generator or some kind of tool to make things more automatic (I'm thinking in mandoc conversion because all the web is really a big documentation project)? Regards, Xavier
Re: RSS or Atom syndication for security advisories?
Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2023-05-22, Xavier B. wrote: > > Why? > > If you make too much extra work for people who are handling errata, > they won't want to handle errata any more. I'd be thrilled to do less work on errata! How about we do RSS, and stop making errata? We can do static RSS. Configure and forget.
Re: RSS or Atom syndication for security advisories?
On 2023-05-22, Xavier B. wrote: > Why? If you make too much extra work for people who are handling errata, they won't want to handle errata any more. The simplest way to check for new updates for on an OpenBSD system is to run syspatch -c, or subscribe to the "announce" mailing list. If you want more than is already offered, you are free to scrape the errata webpages, parse the "www" repository (via anoncvs or the git conversion) errata files, etc.
Re: RSS or Atom syndication for security advisories?
Not only you can subscribe to the list for the announcement for these patches, but you already have it on the front page of the OpenBSD Journal site as well. https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=front Look right column under: OpenBSD Errata So all you asked for is already there. Not sure how quickly the site is updated, but you may get it faster via the announcement. Either way, you have two sources for what you want. It was already there, just needed to look for it. Hope this answer your question. No need to add anything. Daniel On 5/21/23 3:27 PM, Hiltjo Posthuma wrote: On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 06:26:12PM +, Xavier B. wrote: Thanks, Hiltjo, for your help. I very appreciate that. Perhaps it could be useful to place it in official site. What do you think? What kind of software do you use to generate the web page? Perhaps I could help you to add RSS security advisories. Hi, You're welcome, but to be clear: I only posted the link. http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=about Thanks, Xavier On Sun, 21 May 2023 16:03:54 +0200 Hiltjo Posthuma ha escrit: On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 11:34:57AM +, Xavier B. wrote: Hi, I just want to know if there is an RSS or Atom syndication advisories. I have several machines with several operaring system in them: GNU/Linux (alpine and arch), FreeBSD and OpenBSD. I have a news reader and I'm subscribed to many operating systems security advisories so ocassionally I know there are some security bugs and then I need to update one of my machine system. Regarding to OpenBSD I just saw this errata page [https://www.openbsd.org/errata73.html] but it is not RSS/atom and it's version specific. Is it anywhere else? If not, please consider to provide it from an user point of view. Thanks in advance, Hi, http://undeadly.org/errata/errata.rss -- Kind regards, Hiltjo
Re: RSS or Atom syndication for security advisories?
On 2023-05-21, Xavier B. wrote: > What kind of software do you use to generate the web page? Depends on the developer who is updating it at the time, but I think probably for most it will one of vi, vim, emacs or mg.
Re: RSS or Atom syndication for security advisories?
Why? I can help you if you want to code it On Mon, 22 May 2023 04:37:06 -0600 "Theo de Raadt" ha escrit: > Not going to happen. > > Xavier B. wrote: > > > Yeah!, I understand you. But I think it should be included in official > > resources. To whom is concerned about. > > > > On Sun, 21 May 2023 21:27:19 +0200 > > Hiltjo Posthuma ha escrit: > > > > > On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 06:26:12PM +, Xavier B. wrote: > > > > Thanks, Hiltjo, for your help. I very appreciate that. > > > > > > > > Perhaps it could be useful to place it in official site. > > > > What do you think? What kind of software do you use to generate the web > > > > page? Perhaps I could help you to add RSS security advisories. > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > You're welcome, but to be clear: I only posted the link. > > > > > > http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=about > > > > >
Re: RSS or Atom syndication for security advisories?
Not going to happen. Xavier B. wrote: > Yeah!, I understand you. But I think it should be included in official > resources. To whom is concerned about. > > On Sun, 21 May 2023 21:27:19 +0200 > Hiltjo Posthuma ha escrit: > > > On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 06:26:12PM +, Xavier B. wrote: > > > Thanks, Hiltjo, for your help. I very appreciate that. > > > > > > Perhaps it could be useful to place it in official site. > > > What do you think? What kind of software do you use to generate the web > > > page? Perhaps I could help you to add RSS security advisories. > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > You're welcome, but to be clear: I only posted the link. > > > > http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=about > > >
Re: RSS or Atom syndication for security advisories?
Yeah!, I understand you. But I think it should be included in official resources. To whom is concerned about. On Sun, 21 May 2023 21:27:19 +0200 Hiltjo Posthuma ha escrit: > On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 06:26:12PM +, Xavier B. wrote: > > Thanks, Hiltjo, for your help. I very appreciate that. > > > > Perhaps it could be useful to place it in official site. > > What do you think? What kind of software do you use to generate the web > > page? Perhaps I could help you to add RSS security advisories. > > > > Hi, > > You're welcome, but to be clear: I only posted the link. > > http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=about >
Re: RSS or Atom syndication for security advisories?
On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 06:26:12PM +, Xavier B. wrote: > Thanks, Hiltjo, for your help. I very appreciate that. > > Perhaps it could be useful to place it in official site. > What do you think? What kind of software do you use to generate the web page? > Perhaps I could help you to add RSS security advisories. > Hi, You're welcome, but to be clear: I only posted the link. http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=about > Thanks, > Xavier > > On Sun, 21 May 2023 16:03:54 +0200 > Hiltjo Posthuma ha escrit: > > > On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 11:34:57AM +, Xavier B. wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I just want to know if there is an RSS or Atom syndication advisories. > > > > > > I have several machines with several operaring system in them: GNU/Linux > > > (alpine and arch), FreeBSD and OpenBSD. > > > I have a news reader and I'm subscribed to many operating systems > > > security advisories so ocassionally I know there are some security bugs > > > and then I need to update one of my machine system. > > > > > > > > > Regarding to OpenBSD I just saw this errata page > > > [https://www.openbsd.org/errata73.html] but it is not RSS/atom and it's > > > version specific. Is it anywhere else? > > > > > > If not, please consider to provide it from an user point of view. > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > http://undeadly.org/errata/errata.rss > > > > -- > > Kind regards, > > Hiltjo > -- Kind regards, Hiltjo
Re: RSS or Atom syndication for security advisories?
Thanks, Hiltjo, for your help. I very appreciate that. Perhaps it could be useful to place it in official site. What do you think? What kind of software do you use to generate the web page? Perhaps I could help you to add RSS security advisories. Thanks, Xavier On Sun, 21 May 2023 16:03:54 +0200 Hiltjo Posthuma ha escrit: > On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 11:34:57AM +, Xavier B. wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I just want to know if there is an RSS or Atom syndication advisories. > > > > I have several machines with several operaring system in them: GNU/Linux > > (alpine and arch), FreeBSD and OpenBSD. > > I have a news reader and I'm subscribed to many operating systems security > > advisories so ocassionally I know there are some security bugs and then I > > need to update one of my machine system. > > > > > > Regarding to OpenBSD I just saw this errata page > > [https://www.openbsd.org/errata73.html] but it is not RSS/atom and it's > > version specific. Is it anywhere else? > > > > If not, please consider to provide it from an user point of view. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Hi, > > http://undeadly.org/errata/errata.rss > > -- > Kind regards, > Hiltjo
Re: RSS or Atom syndication for security advisories?
https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq10.html#Patches Subscribe to the list and you will know it. On 5/21/23 7:34 AM, Xavier B. wrote: Hi, I just want to know if there is an RSS or Atom syndication advisories. I have several machines with several operaring system in them: GNU/Linux (alpine and arch), FreeBSD and OpenBSD. I have a news reader and I'm subscribed to many operating systems security advisories so ocassionally I know there are some security bugs and then I need to update one of my machine system. Regarding to OpenBSD I just saw this errata page [https://www.openbsd.org/errata73.html] but it is not RSS/atom and it's version specific. Is it anywhere else? If not, please consider to provide it from an user point of view. Thanks in advance,
Re: RSS or Atom syndication for security advisories?
Sorry for the half joke, but while you are searching for your feed I really hope that anyone comes with the great idea to erase any log of bugs here and there or better the dark side of the story. -- Daniele Bonini May 21, 2023 15:48:02 Xavier B. : > Hi, > > I just want to know if there is an RSS or Atom syndication advisories. > > I have several machines with several operaring system in them: GNU/Linux > (alpine and arch), FreeBSD and OpenBSD. > I have a news reader and I'm subscribed to many operating systems security > advisories so ocassionally I know there are some security bugs and then I > need to update one of my machine system. > > > Regarding to OpenBSD I just saw this errata page > [https://www.openbsd.org/errata73.html] but it is not RSS/atom and it's > version specific. Is it anywhere else? > > If not, please consider to provide it from an user point of view. > > Thanks in advance,
Re: RSS or Atom syndication for security advisories?
On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 11:34:57AM +, Xavier B. wrote: > Hi, > > I just want to know if there is an RSS or Atom syndication advisories. > > I have several machines with several operaring system in them: GNU/Linux > (alpine and arch), FreeBSD and OpenBSD. > I have a news reader and I'm subscribed to many operating systems security > advisories so ocassionally I know there are some security bugs and then I > need to update one of my machine system. > > > Regarding to OpenBSD I just saw this errata page > [https://www.openbsd.org/errata73.html] but it is not RSS/atom and it's > version specific. Is it anywhere else? > > If not, please consider to provide it from an user point of view. > > Thanks in advance, > Hi, http://undeadly.org/errata/errata.rss -- Kind regards, Hiltjo
RSS or Atom syndication for security advisories?
Hi, I just want to know if there is an RSS or Atom syndication advisories. I have several machines with several operaring system in them: GNU/Linux (alpine and arch), FreeBSD and OpenBSD. I have a news reader and I'm subscribed to many operating systems security advisories so ocassionally I know there are some security bugs and then I need to update one of my machine system. Regarding to OpenBSD I just saw this errata page [https://www.openbsd.org/errata73.html] but it is not RSS/atom and it's version specific. Is it anywhere else? If not, please consider to provide it from an user point of view. Thanks in advance,
