Re: Intel Atom?
Tried to pass on this, obviously, the call will be answered mostly for the nice and polite tone of public address. Since the thread is already broken and dead, Are you questioning the productive meaning of the initial post? Oh, you're realising the fact there were some replies that you don't like and did not personally approve, or that you hold negative feelings. But you don't provide anything to the topic and still demand your way into the discussion. In fact opposing a reasonable request for follow up towards the original poster. I would like to ask who the hell are you lists-wrant-com user? This question coming from a nobody web mail user, you must be thinking of yourself to be the pope's son or somebody with two _bananas_ on the belt. Get a grip of your pretentious yourself, and keep this kind of personal dissatisfaction off list, please. I use to read the threads on marc You mean you mostly post mediocre questions and justification enough to express yourself when you dedicate little time to glance over replies, similarly to the person who started this thread. There is absolutely no reason to discontinue reading, don't overly exaggerate. The answers are meaningless, mostly copy/paste from wikipedia or other sites. You're speaking mostly for your own qualities, as usual, son of the preacher man. This is the annoying bit in your post, adhering your flaws to others. Please find another lists, something like adult chat and avoid your answers here if you have nothing to say. Again wielding that imaginary little mind of yours to imitate others, but don't strain it too much, you may want to keep the privilege to continue asking ridiculously stupid questions further. Do not bother to answer this, please. Sure thing, you tell everybody since you're the resident preacher here, domnule Popescu. Only to forget this until you start asking again the next portion of controversial questions and then dislike the neutral evasive conflict replies, where any follow at all. How typical of you, it must be indeed upsetting for you to fail at trolling: http://marc.info/?m=143721573707482 http://marc.info/?m=143853897325061
Re: Intel Atom?
Off-the-shelf yes, home no, it's just a specialized setup with some odd requirements. We're fine with paying for good quality components but there's no need to overpay for something that offers a bunch of stuff we don't need, especially when we're going to be building several of these. I'm just trying to find the best balance, and I'm hoping that upper-mid-range Atoms are where it's at. Well, did you solve it? Not in two days :) I'm still doing research and trying to figure out what's even worth looking at. I'll start ordering and receiving components over the next week or so, but it'll be the end of the month easy before we've decided on the right combination of parts and can start rolling things out to the next stage. What's your useful idea to bring to other readers? Not sure what you're asking here? Do you have any experience related to this that we would like to read on? Well I mean I've been assembling systems since the late 90's, been using OpenBSD as the OS of choice for network appliances for roughly 10 years or so, and been very interested in small form factor computers for a while (I've been big on laptops from back when they were still kind of a waste of money). Not sure how different this is from any other tech guy though, but this list isn't the place for an auto-bio anyway. If you have specific questions I can try to answer. Jumping topics like a recently released person, hopefully you were not wasting everybody's time on the list. Well, I'm sorry you think that starting a whopping two threads in a row is indicative of being mentally disabled and/or a criminal. The two main questions I had were pretty much answered, so it wasn't a waste of time for me at least.
Re: Intel Atom?
What's your useful idea to bring to other readers? Since the thread is already broken and dead, I would like to ask who the hell are you lists-wrant-com user? I use to read the threads on marc and most of them (maybe all) are interrupted by emails from this address. The answers are meaningless, mostly copy/paste from wikipedia or other sites. Lists-wrant-com, I think you are in a opressive regime country, or maybe you are lost on an island or something, because you want to talk too much and not related to the subject. Please find another lists, something like adult chat and avoid your answers here if you have nothing to say. Do not bother to answer this, please. Thank you.
Re: Intel Atom?
looking forward to your dmesg then
Re: Intel Atom?
yet the original poster is obviously looking for COTS consumer electronics general purpose inexpensive mini-ITX mainboards for home router project. Off-the-shelf yes, home no, it's just a specialized setup with some odd requirements. We're fine with paying for good quality components but there's no need to overpay for something that offers a bunch of stuff we don't need, especially when we're going to be building several of these. I'm just trying to find the best balance, and I'm hoping that upper-mid-range Atoms are where it's at. Well, did you solve it? What's your useful idea to bring to other readers? Do you have any experience related to this that we would like to read on? Jumping topics like a recently released person, hopefully you were not wasting everybody's time on the list.
Re: Intel Atom?
yet the original poster is obviously looking for COTS consumer electronics general purpose inexpensive mini-ITX mainboards for home router project. Off-the-shelf yes, home no, it's just a specialized setup with some odd requirements. We're fine with paying for good quality components but there's no need to overpay for something that offers a bunch of stuff we don't need, especially when we're going to be building several of these. I'm just trying to find the best balance, and I'm hoping that upper-mid-range Atoms are where it's at.
Re: Intel Atom?
Recommendation for a very capable router are C2750/C2758 Supermicro So, do you think we'd *need* a board like that? Depends on your specific requirements in terms of expected bottlenecks. The reason I ask is that they're nearly twice the price of other dual-gigE Atom boards, and the ECC SODIMMs don't help. ECC RAM always helps in the long term, if the board is collocated this can save you a trip or two / remote hands fees. Even for home use ECC is considered a reliability feature (at about 5-15% annual rate of random memory errors) if the device is powered 24/7. If you're saying that an old D525 can handle our traffic needs and is well supported, I'm don't think springing for this board makes sense. I am saying it handles my specific needs since early 2011 and also saying that newer Atoms are preferred if budget allows this, for added performance in the same thermal dissipation and power usage. Regarding price, if you plan to use a Supermicro board, those are more expensive than comparable other brands, even more expensive than comparable Intel boards. At the time I was shopping the best available Atom offers were D525 boards from Supermicro. I could have dealt away with an Intel board and still be happy (lower priced other boards were not yet listed), but I'd not have IMPI serial BIOS (out of band) access. D525 is an older Atom CPU on ICH9R chipset and a lot less capable compared to newer Atoms, especially the ones recommended. It does not have the VT-* (think virtualisation) extensions, but a router or storage appliance does not need these. http://ark.intel.com/products/49490/Intel-Atom-Processor-D525-1M-Cache-1_80-GHz With a grain of salt as the benchmarks are unreliable source of performance comparisons (and these promote a utility): http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Atom+D525+%40+1.80GHz $ md5 -tt MD5 time trial. Processing 10 1-byte blocks... Digest = 766a2bb5d24bddae466c572bcabca3ee Time = 4.094940 seconds Speed = 244203822.278226 bytes/second Here is one good board: http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/ATOM/ICH9/X7SPA-HF-D525.cfm If you want to use X, stick a cheap low power fanless single slot Radeon HD5450 in it, this supports OK up to dual link DVI 2560x1440 + VGA 1920x1200 together. The included in the mainboard Matrox G200eW video works OK to boot up and with special tweaking has worked for X but not at the moment. With the added video card the system works quite responsive for a low power on board soldered processor driven desktop. The system can run headless with no monitor/keyboard entirely commanded over the serial port including BIOS access. Serial over LAN works OK too, but serial 3 wire does not depend on network. Always consider a spare monitor keyboard attached / around the system just in case. There is no point in using more than 4 GB RAM, though there are reports it can boot with 8 GB RAM, those are silly tricks. The CPU spec says it can address 4 GB and the mainboard spec as well 4 GB. Pick good RAM exactly timed per the spec as the board will not boot up with unreliable funky cheap RAM and you will be glad in the long term for the RAM choice. This board is not your choice for ZFS/RAID fate abuse, but works great for a NAS provider, this comment is in regard to the 8 GB silliness. This system does not support ECC RAM. http://www.servethehome.com/supermicro-x7spehfd525-8gb-ddr3-ipmi-pfsense-freenas-unraid-linux-power-consumption/ The total power consumption bare is about 35-40 W, if you plan to populate more than 1 of the 6 SATA ports, consider a reliable 200 W PSU so it can function halfway loaded. These 200 W specify total power summary across voltages and are maximum power load before failure, not normal working (at efficient levels) power use. Even with no drives, still pick a 200 W PSU standard form factor case. The 2 LAN GigE ports are enough for a router, one is shared for IPMI. These are just fine in OpenBSD as em(4) devices. I'll put the dmesg later in the message, no glitches for years, happily saturate the network with SSH rsync. Everything works great on the board and is well supported, I have it and this runs flawless almost idle since 2011 when I bought it. IPMI works as advertised, you have to patch the BIOS IPMI firmwares to close vulnerability (in IPMI) and confine the IMPI (shared LAN) on local network only even with proper set up. It will need a case fan (or two for redundancy) because the CPU is fanless and produces enough heat (about 15-20 W TDP) and even without a Radeon added (20 W more) inside, the system can not rely on free air convection in a tower / desktop small form factor (mini-ITX) case. Remember, these boards are designed to be put in controlled temperature environments in 1U rack mount cases where air is flowing through the chassis. You can't leave it just heat up the temperature sensitive components (capacitors, HDDs) without shortening their life.
Re: Intel Atom?
ECC RAM always helps in the long term, It helps yes, but for a router I wonder if it makes a significant difference. if the board is collocated It's in-house. but I'd not have IMPI serial BIOS (out of band) access. Both of those aren't necessary for this project. If you want to use X, Always consider a spare monitor keyboard attached / around the system just in case. We don't need X, but do need local console / KVM. It will need a case fan (or two for redundancy) because the CPU is fanless and produces enough heat (about 15-20 W TDP) and even without a Radeon added (20 W more) inside, the system can not rely on free air convection in a tower / desktop small form factor (mini-ITX) case. Don't use external brick / micro / pico type PSU units, those are not offering any benefit over stock SFX/ATX form factor and are less than reliable to say the least not mention interchangeable. The PSU is one of the least reliable system blocks. The reason I'm asking about Atoms ITXs in the first place is that physical size is a major constraint for this project and a micro ATX case or larger is a non-starter. It's even proving hard to find an SFX/TFX case that's compact enough (and isn't shit). We're pretty much looking at some sort of open mesh compact case design with a compact PSU, like a pico+MiniBox M350, Antec ISK110, or Silverstone PT13B + a thin-ITX motherboard with bult-in dc power. In such a cramped situation the low heat output of an Atom seems a better choice than a full sized Core. (See my other thread on this list about using NICs with multiple jacks). Also, you're the first person I've seen who's said that pico's aren't reliable. We have one that's several years old that's still going strong. I'm curious what your experiences have been? but you'll miss the chance to learn and use the advanced capabilities or more reliable components on board. That's not really an issue, we have and use Supermicro stuff all the time. In fact there's a couple old P8SCT-based 1U severs I'm trying to sell off as we speak. and don't buy used That's a given. There is absolutely no point in considering SSD for this system. Maybe. This system also needs to act as a PXE boot server for a variety of clients, so it needs several gigs of storage space for all the images, and that storage needs to be fast enough that the clients can boot in a sane time frame. I'm not sure if random 16gb thumb drives will really cut it.
Re: Intel Atom?
On 2015-07-28, li...@wrant.com li...@wrant.com wrote: The 2 LAN GigE ports are enough for a router, one is shared for IPMI. Shared IPMI is *never* fine IMHO.
Re: Intel Atom?
The 2 LAN GigE ports are enough for a router, one is shared for IPMI. Shared IPMI is *never* fine IMHO. The notion was that 2 ports are enough for a router, though I agree and have the same sentiment on the shared IPMI port. Supermicro did not put a standalone IPMI Ethernet port on the X7SPA-HF / X7SPE-HF chipset ICH9 boards in 2011 when I needed this. For personal use I can't justify an overpriced dual port PCI-e NIC and used the slot for a video card. As an alternative USB NICs exist, I have a couple of axe(4) off Ebay but not used it in live traffic, so can't say anything about its merits. That's one of the reasons (dedicated IPMI port) for recommending newer Atom based Supermicro C2000 series boards, yet the original poster is obviously looking for COTS consumer electronics general purpose inexpensive mini-ITX mainboards for home router project.
Re: Intel Atom?
On 2015-07-27 11:22, Quartz wrote: What's Intel Atom support like these days? I remember they used to be a little weird. Are they handled pretty much like any other x86 chip now or are some things still unsupported? Are they capable of handling pf on a saturated 100-base-t connection? How about gig-e? There's a huge range of Atom processors. Some are 32-bit only single- core, there are models which are 64-bit capable and multi-core. There are a wide range of clock speeds, cache sizes, and bus speeds. http://ark.intel.com/products/family/29035/Intel-Atom-Processor#@All I have an Asus 1005HA netbook with an Atom N270. As it's a workstation, I can't speak to router performance. But the processor: single-core, 32-bit only, has always appaered to be a normal x86. I just can't disable HT in the BIOS. I don't have a recent dmesg available as I don't have the device with me at the moment. Here's an excerpt from one I'd sent to misc@ a couple of years ago that I just grabbed from marc.info. This one is GENERIC, I normally use GENERIC.MP -- though to be honest, I do not perceive a performance delta between the two. OpenBSD 5.4-current (GENERIC) #93: Fri Oct 25 09:18:15 MDT 2013 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N270 @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.60 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI \ ,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,NXE,SSE3,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,EST,TM2,SSSE3,xTPR,PDCM, \ MOVBE,LAHF,PERF real mem = 1064497152 (1015MB)
Re: Intel Atom?
FWIW here's the DMESG from the system I just put in place. Case, power supply and all I was at around $350 total. It's making an excellent router/firewall: OpenBSD 5.7 (GENERIC.MP) #881: Sun Mar 8 11:04:17 MDT 2015 dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP real mem = 4262907904 (4065MB) avail mem = 4145512448 (3953MB) mpath0 at root scsibus0 at mpath0: 256 targets mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.7 @ 0xef280 (18 entries) bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version P1.20 date 07/22/2013 bios0: ASRock AD2550R/U3S3 acpi0 at bios0: rev 2 acpi0: sleep states S0 S1 S4 S5 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC MCFG HPET acpi0: wakeup devices P0P2(S4) USB0(S4) USB1(S4) USB2(S4) USB5(S4) EUSB(S4) USB3(S4) USB4(S4) USB6(S4) USBE(S4) PS2K(S4) PS2M(S4) UAR1(S4) GBE_(S4) PEX0(S4) PEX1(S4) [...] acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D2550 @ 1.86GHz, 1867.04 MHz cpu0: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,MOVBE,NXE,LONG,LAHF,PERF,ITSC cpu0: 512KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache cpu0: smt 0, core 0, package 0 mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support, 7 var ranges, 88 fixed ranges cpu0: apic clock running at 133MHz cpu0: mwait min=64, max=64, C-substates=0.1.0.0.0, IBE cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor) cpu1: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D2550 @ 1.86GHz, 1866.74 MHz cpu1: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,MOVBE,NXE,LONG,LAHF,PERF,ITSC cpu1: 512KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache cpu1: smt 1, core 0, package 0 cpu2 at mainbus0: apid 2 (application processor) cpu2: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D2550 @ 1.86GHz, 1866.74 MHz cpu2: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,MOVBE,NXE,LONG,LAHF,PERF,ITSC cpu2: 512KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache cpu2: smt 0, core 1, package 0 cpu3 at mainbus0: apid 3 (application processor) cpu3: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D2550 @ 1.86GHz, 1866.74 MHz cpu3: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,MOVBE,NXE,LONG,LAHF,PERF,ITSC cpu3: 512KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache cpu3: smt 1, core 1, package 0 ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 0 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins acpimcfg0 at acpi0 addr 0xe000, bus 0-255 acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 6 (P0P2) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 1 (PEX0) acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 2 (PEX1) acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 3 (PEX2) acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEX3) acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 4 (PEX4) acpiprt7 at acpi0: bus 5 (PEX5) acpicpu0 at acpi0 acpicpu1 at acpi0 acpicpu2 at acpi0 acpicpu3 at acpi0 acpibtn0 at acpi0: SLPB acpibtn1 at acpi0: PWRB acpivideo0 at acpi0: GFX0 acpivout0 at acpivideo0: DD02 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0 pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 vendor Intel, unknown product 0x0bf3 rev 0x04 vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel GMA 3600 rev 0x0b intagp at vga1 not configured wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) uhci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 0 Intel 82801JI USB rev 0x00: apic 0 int 16 uhci1 at pci0 dev 26 function 1 Intel 82801JI USB rev 0x00: apic 0 int 21 uhci2 at pci0 dev 26 function 2 Intel 82801JI USB rev 0x00: apic 0 int 18 ehci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 7 Intel 82801JI USB rev 0x00: apic 0 int 18 ehci0: timed out waiting for BIOS usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 Intel 82801JI HD Audio rev 0x00: msi azalia0: no supported codecs ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801JI PCIE rev 0x00: msi pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 1 Intel 82801JI PCIE rev 0x00: msi pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 xhci0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 vendor Etron, unknown product 0x7052 rev 0x00: msi usb1 at xhci0: USB revision 3.0 uhub1 at usb1 Etron xHCI root hub rev 3.00/1.00 addr 1 ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 2 Intel 82801JI PCIE rev 0x00: msi pci3 at ppb2 bus 3 ahci0 at pci3 dev 0 function 0 Marvell 88SE9172 SATA rev 0x11: msi, AHCI 1.0 scsibus1 at ahci0: 32 targets ppb3 at pci0 dev 28 function 4 Intel 82801JI PCIE rev 0x00: msi pci4 at ppb3 bus 4 em0 at pci4 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82574L rev 0x00: msi, address d0:50:99:64:a4:42 ppb4 at pci0 dev 28 function 5 Intel 82801JI PCIE rev 0x00: msi pci5 at ppb4 bus 5 em1 at pci5 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82574L rev 0x00: msi, address d0:50:99:64:a4:43 uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801JI USB rev 0x00: apic 0 int 23 uhci4 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801JI USB rev 0x00: apic 0 int 19 uhci5 at pci0
Re: Intel Atom?
Michael McConville wrote: (especially when the proxied traffic is TLS-encrypted) Disregard that clause. It's obviously the end-points that handle TLS sessions, not the exit relay.
Re: Intel Atom?
I just posted a dmesg from a SuperMicro motherboard with 8-core Intel Atom C2758. Yeah, I've heard about that board. I think it's a tad overkill for our situation though :) Depending on how you configure your disks the 8-core C2758 should be able to saturate a single gig-e nic. Our system will be mainly a router rather than a file server, so I'm mostly concerned with how well it would handle network-to-network rather than disk-to-network. Lemme put it a different way: a 500mhz P3 can handle pf on a saturated 100bt connection no sweat. I know Atoms are slower clock-for-clock, how do they compare (in general) and are there any OpenBSD specific concerns?
Re: Intel Atom?
FWIW here's the DMESG from the system I just put in place. pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 vendor Intel, unknown product 0x0bf3 rev 0x04 ehci0: timed out waiting for BIOS xhci0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 vendor Etron, unknown product 0x7052 ehci1: timed out waiting for BIOS I admit I'm not great at reading DMESGs, but these are the sorts of things that worry me.
Re: Intel Atom?
I just deployed an OpenBSD 5.7 firewall/router/dhcp/dns using this motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157417 It uses the Intel Atom D2550 1.86GHz 2-Core chip and has dual 1000 Mbps Intel NICs on the motherboard. I am running the amd64 binaries on it and it's serving its purpose really well. Thanks, Bryan On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Josh Grosse j...@jggimi.homeip.net wrote: On 2015-07-27 11:22, Quartz wrote: What's Intel Atom support like these days? I remember they used to be a little weird. Are they handled pretty much like any other x86 chip now or are some things still unsupported? Are they capable of handling pf on a saturated 100-base-t connection? How about gig-e? There's a huge range of Atom processors. Some are 32-bit only single- core, there are models which are 64-bit capable and multi-core. There are a wide range of clock speeds, cache sizes, and bus speeds. http://ark.intel.com/products/family/29035/Intel-Atom-Processor#@All I have an Asus 1005HA netbook with an Atom N270. As it's a workstation, I can't speak to router performance. But the processor: single-core, 32-bit only, has always appaered to be a normal x86. I just can't disable HT in the BIOS. I don't have a recent dmesg available as I don't have the device with me at the moment. Here's an excerpt from one I'd sent to misc@ a couple of years ago that I just grabbed from marc.info. This one is GENERIC, I normally use GENERIC.MP -- though to be honest, I do not perceive a performance delta between the two. OpenBSD 5.4-current (GENERIC) #93: Fri Oct 25 09:18:15 MDT 2013 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N270 @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.60 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI \ ,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,NXE,SSE3,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,EST,TM2,SSSE3,xTPR,PDCM, \ MOVBE,LAHF,PERF real mem = 1064497152 (1015MB)
Re: Intel Atom?
I just deployed an OpenBSD 5.7 firewall/router/dhcp/dns using this motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157417 As a side question, is that a female usb connector planted vertically right on the motherboard? It uses the Intel Atom D2550 1.86GHz 2-Core chip and has dual 1000 Mbps Intel NICs on the motherboard. I am running the amd64 binaries on it and it's serving its purpose really well. How hard have you pushed the network IO?
Re: Intel Atom?
There's a huge range of Atom processors. Some are 32-bit only single- core, there are models which are 64-bit capable and multi-core. There are a wide range of clock speeds, cache sizes, and bus speeds. I know, I was mainly looking for general opinion about support and performance. IIRC, back in ~08-09 when Atoms first came out there used to be issues with maybe DMA or something that caused some models to be way slower than specs would indicate, and I was wondering if that was mostly a thing of the past, or if ACPI/64bit/MP/whatever doesn't work right on certain model lines or something. Or basically any issue software or hardware that would make some models not be able to handle high traffic.
Re: Intel Atom?
On the USB connector I didn't notice it when I installed the board but I can look when I get home in a couple of days. I haven't pushed it to breaking but it has yet to present a bottleneck. Thanks, Bryan On Jul 27, 2015, at 1:14 PM, Quartz qua...@sneakertech.com wrote: I just deployed an OpenBSD 5.7 firewall/router/dhcp/dns using this motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157417 As a side question, is that a female usb connector planted vertically right on the motherboard? It uses the Intel Atom D2550 1.86GHz 2-Core chip and has dual 1000 Mbps Intel NICs on the motherboard. I am running the amd64 binaries on it and it's serving its purpose really well. How hard have you pushed the network IO?
Re: Intel Atom?
I've been using an atom for a firewall/VPN for a couple of years. Works great On Monday, July 27, 2015, Quartz qua...@sneakertech.com wrote: What's Intel Atom support like these days? I remember they used to be a little weird. Are they handled pretty much like any other x86 chip now or are some things still unsupported? Are they capable of handling pf on a saturated 100-base-t connection? How about gig-e?
Re: Intel Atom?
Here's the dmesg for my Tor exit relay, which runs on a D2700. It moves about 2.0-4.5 MB/s in each direction. Hmmm that's nowhere near as fast as what we do, and not even as fast as a P3. It seems to be running at full capacity doing so, I don't know much about tor. When you say full capacity, do you mean the hardware was maxed out, or that you were doing the most that the tor network would allow you?
Re: Intel Atom?
Quartz wrote: Here's the dmesg for my Tor exit relay, which runs on a D2700. It moves about 2.0-4.5 MB/s in each direction. Hmmm that's nowhere near as fast as what we do, and not even as fast as a P3. Do you have 4,500-7,000 open connections? That slows my machine's networking down quite a bit, but I think it's pretty rare for a small router to have that many. Another complication that doesn't apply to you is Tor's crypto. I don't know how many AES and ed25519 operations Tor demands per network packet, but (especially when the proxied traffic is TLS-encrypted) it's quite a few. No AES-NI, either. It seems to be running at full capacity doing so, I don't know much about tor. When you say full capacity, do you mean the hardware was maxed out, or that you were doing the most that the tor network would allow you? The machine seems maxed out. If I recall correctly, netperf lets me move ~100 Mbps in each direction, as the dedicated server provider advertised. Regardless, my current setup uses all of my allotted monthly bandwidth, so I'm not looking to change anything.
Re: Intel Atom?
On 7/27/15 10:22, Quartz wrote: What's Intel Atom support like these days? I remember they used to be a little weird. Are they handled pretty much like any other x86 chip now or are some things still unsupported? Are they capable of handling pf on a saturated 100-base-t connection? How about gig-e? I just posted a dmesg from a SuperMicro motherboard with 8-core Intel Atom C2758. As noted in the email, everything I cared about worked. I didn't try to saturate the system but was able to run multiple rsync sessions. I started with one rsync session from two 7200 RPM Hitachi NAS drives configured with stacked softraid (mirror + crypto). I'm reasonably certain I was getting 40 - 45 MB/s which prompted me to run a second rsync from another stacked mirror+crypto set to the same target. Adding the second rsync slowed the first a bit. I think I was seeing 38 - 40 MB/s per stream. Depending on how you configure your disks the 8-core C2758 should be able to saturate a single gig-e nic. The SuperMicro board I was using has 4 intel nics + a separate IPMI nic. There's also a 4-core version of the board. There's also a C2750 version of the board (4 and 8 core models) which has turbo boost. ServerTheHome tested the 2758 and 2750 against the Xeon E3 (and others). The Xeon comes out on top as you would expect but for file serving, you may find them acceptable. http://www.servethehome.com/intel-atom-c2750-8-core-avoton-rangeley-benchmarks-fast-power/ http://www.servethehome.com/intel-atom-c2758-benchmarks-8-core-rangeley-tested/ --Aaron
Re: Intel Atom?
Here's the dmesg for my Tor exit relay, which runs on a D2700. It moves about 2.0-4.5 MB/s in each direction. It seems to be running at full capacity doing so, but that's with 3,000-5,000 open files and 4,500-7,000 open connections. So, I think you'll be able to get a lot out of one of these CPUs. OpenBSD 5.7-stable (GENERIC.MP) #0: Fri Jun 19 13:20:46 EDT 2015 root@exit:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP real mem = 2112454656 (2014MB) avail mem = 2052362240 (1957MB) mpath0 at root scsibus0 at mpath0: 256 targets mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.7 @ 0x7ee98000 (27 entries) bios0: vendor Intel Corp. version MUCDT10N.86A.0069.2012.0323.1358 date 03/23/2012 bios0: Intel Corporation D2700MUD acpi0 at bios0: rev 2 acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SSDT APIC MCFG HPET acpi0: wakeup devices SLT1(S4) PS2M(S4) PS2K(S4) UAR1(S3) UAR2(S3) USB0(S3) USB1(S3) USB2(S3) USB3(S3) USB7(S3) PXSX(S4) RP01(S4) PXSX(S4) RP02(S4) PXSX(S4) RP03(S4) [...] acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D2700 @ 2.13GHz, 2133.73 MHz cpu0: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,MOVBE,NXE,LONG,LAHF,PERF,ITSC cpu0: 512KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache cpu0: smt 0, core 0, package 0 mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support, 7 var ranges, 88 fixed ranges cpu0: apic clock running at 133MHz cpu0: mwait min=64, max=64, C-substates=0.1.0.0.0, IBE cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor) cpu1: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D2700 @ 2.13GHz, 2133.41 MHz cpu1: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,MOVBE,NXE,LONG,LAHF,PERF,ITSC cpu1: 512KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache cpu1: smt 1, core 0, package 0 cpu2 at mainbus0: apid 2 (application processor) cpu2: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D2700 @ 2.13GHz, 2133.41 MHz cpu2: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,MOVBE,NXE,LONG,LAHF,PERF,ITSC cpu2: 512KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache cpu2: smt 0, core 1, package 0 cpu3 at mainbus0: apid 3 (application processor) cpu3: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D2700 @ 2.13GHz, 2133.41 MHz cpu3: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,MOVBE,NXE,LONG,LAHF,PERF,ITSC cpu3: 512KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache cpu3: smt 1, core 1, package 0 ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 8 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 8 acpimcfg0 at acpi0 addr 0xe000, bus 0-63 acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 2 (P0P1) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 1 (RP01) acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP02) acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP03) acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP04) acpicpu0 at acpi0 acpicpu1 at acpi0 acpicpu2 at acpi0 acpicpu3 at acpi0 acpibtn0 at acpi0: PWRB acpibtn1 at acpi0: SLPB acpivideo0 at acpi0: GFX0 acpivout0 at acpivideo0: DD02 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0 pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 vendor Intel, unknown product 0x0bf3 rev 0x03 vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel GMA 3600 rev 0x09 intagp at vga1 not configured wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 Intel 82801GB HD Audio rev 0x02: msi azalia0: codecs: Realtek ALC662 audio0 at azalia0 ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x02: msi pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 em0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82574L rev 0x00: msi, address 00:22:4d:9d:93:e8 uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: apic 8 int 23 uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: apic 8 int 19 uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: apic 8 int 18 uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 3 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: apic 8 int 16 ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: apic 8 int 23 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 ppb1 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BAM Hub-to-PCI rev 0xe2 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 pcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel NM10 LPC rev 0x02 ahci0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 Intel 82801GR AHCI rev 0x02: msi, AHCI 1.1 scsibus1 at ahci0: 32 targets sd0 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0: ATA, WDC WD5003ABYX-0, 01.0 SCSI3 0/direct fixed naa.50014ee0ad49cde9 sd0: 476940MB, 512 bytes/sector, 976773168 sectors ichiic0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 Intel 82801GB SMBus rev 0x02: apic 8 int 19 iic0 at ichiic0 lm1 at iic0 addr 0x2d: W83627DHG spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x51: 2GB DDR3 SDRAM PC3-8500 SO-DIMM usb1 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 Intel
Re: Intel Atom?
On 2015-07-27, Aaron Poffenberger a...@hypernote.com wrote: The SuperMicro board I was using has 4 intel nics + a separate IPMI nic. N.B. on the recent SuperMicro boards I have, if the IPMI nic is unconnected, standard settings are to run IPMI on the first main NIC instead. This isn't really safe even if you do change the password from the default...
Re: Intel Atom?
On 7/27/15 14:34, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2015-07-27, Aaron Poffenberger a...@hypernote.com wrote: The SuperMicro board I was using has 4 intel nics + a separate IPMI nic. N.B. on the recent SuperMicro boards I have, if the IPMI nic is unconnected, standard settings are to run IPMI on the first main NIC instead. This isn't really safe even if you do change the password from the default... Good point. All my SuperMicro boards have the same feature.
Re: Intel Atom?
Here's the dmesg for my Tor exit relay, which runs on a D2700. It moves about 2.0-4.5 MB/s in each direction. Hmmm that's nowhere near as fast as what we do, and not even as fast as a P3. I have an N280 1000/1666 MHz netbook which is roughly the same computation power as a P3 750 MHz (reference md5 -tt), and a D525 1800 MHz (Supermicro board) with 2 GigE ports (1 shared IPMI) which is more than twice the N280. The nice thing is that N280 works even when the fan blocks continuously for long periods without thermal shutdown on the lower CPU frequency. The D525 is quite older than the new systems suggested in the thread, and fully saturates the 100 Mbps LAN with SSH so no worries, external networks is 100 Mbps. That's a 50 Watt system, main issue is heat in the mini-ITX case and fans are noisy for my delicate ears, had to add 2x 60 mm fans to keep it from overheating. Mainboard is picky on RAM so select a good compatible ECC module provider if the system supports it (newer Atoms). The D525 was a bit pricey for me at the time, but works since 2011 without concern. It seems to be running at full capacity doing so, I don't know much about tor. When you say full capacity, do you mean the hardware was maxed out, or that you were doing the most that the tor network would allow you? Recommendation for a very capable router are C2750/C2758 Supermicro board and a case that can use 12 cm fans if you're going to be listening to it. Reference mainboard models: A1SAi-2750F or A1SRi-2758F, those about roughly as half as the computing power of Xeon E3-1230/1245. If I was picking now I'd go for the Xeon E3 anyway instead + dmesg is invaluable.
Re: Intel Atom?
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 7:14 PM, li...@wrant.com wrote: The D525 is quite older than the new systems suggested in the thread, and fully saturates the 100 Mbps LAN with SSH so no worries, external networks is 100 Mbps. snip Recommendation for a very capable router are C2750/C2758 Supermicro board and a case that can use 12 cm fans if you're going to be listening to it. Reference mainboard models: A1SAi-2750F or A1SRi-2758F, those about roughly as half as the computing power of Xeon E3-1230/1245. I have several of the SuperMicro 5015A based systems, most with the D510 processor and one here with the D525 but never had a problem with it overheating and use it with a picoPSU as the noise from the stock PSU was just too much (the D510 based systems are much quieter than the D525 one). I did replace one of the D510 based systems (a heavily used one) with a new one using SuperMicro's 5018D board and elected the Core i3 4160 over the Xeon's as I didn't think the extra cores provided by a Xeon helped firewall usage and the HyperThreading on the i3 (which supports the ECC memory needed for this board) can be disabled. Only problem with this board is that OpenBSD's support of one of the onboard nic's, the Intel i217-LM, is questionable (it did not work for me), so I needed to pick up a PCI-E add in nic. Note that also the IPMI interface is separate from the other two embedded interfaces in this system (X10SLL-F board).
Re: Intel Atom?
Recommendation for a very capable router are C2750/C2758 Supermicro So, do you think we'd *need* a board like that? The reason I ask is that they're nearly twice the price of other dual-gigE Atom boards, and the ECC SODIMMs don't help. If you're saying that an old D525 can handle our traffic needs and is well supported, I'm don't think springing for this board makes sense.
Re: Intel Atom S1260 (SuperServer 5017A-EF)
Paul B. Henson(hen...@acm.org) on 2013.11.15 15:54:04 -0800: On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:25:50PM +0100, Sebastian Benoit wrote: Don't buy this one (yet). The Marvell 88SE9230 SATA does not work. i know cause i have one ;-) Arg, disappointing, but I'm glad I thought to check before buying :). Do you know if anybody's working on it? no. So much for standard AHCI sigh, does it not find it, or find it but crap out? Do all the other components work ok? I could temporarily stick a PCI SATA card in it to get by until the onboard SATA is supported if all the other pieces are happy. Does anybody have any suggestions for a good/cheap 2 port SATA PCI card that supports openbsd? The earlier 5017A-* machines are ok. Hmm, the only other 5017A model I see doesn't have IPMI. sorry, i mispoke, i meant 5015A-* and they dont have a dedicated ipmi port. anyway, dmesg attached, if someone cares. i'm not going to do anything more with it. OpenBSD 5.4-current (RAMDISK_CD) #107: Sun Nov 10 23:00:53 MST 2013 dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/RAMDISK_CD real mem = 4261289984 (4063MB) avail mem = 4142940160 (3951MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.7 @ 0xe94c0 (23 entries) bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version 1.0b date 04/26/2013 bios0: Supermicro X9SBAA acpi0 at bios0: rev 2 acpi0: sleep states S0 S4 S5 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC FPDT MCFG HPET SPMI EINJ ERST HEST BERT acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU S1260 @ 2.00GHz, 1995.21 MHz cpu0: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CF LUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM 2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,MOVBE,NXE,LONG,LAHF,PERF,ITSC cpu0: 512KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache cpu0: apic clock running at 99MHz cpu at mainbus0: not configured cpu at mainbus0: not configured cpu at mainbus0: not configured ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (PRP1) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 2 (PRP2) acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 4 (P3P4) pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0 pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 vendor Intel, unknown product 0x0c75 rev 0x02 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 vendor Intel, unknown product 0x0c46 rev 0x02 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 ahci0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 vendor Marvell, unknown product 0x9230 rev 0x10: msi, AHCI 1.2 scsibus0 at ahci0: 32 targets ahci0: failed to stop port, cannot softreset ahci0: failed to stop port, cannot softreset ahci0: failed to stop port, cannot softreset ahci0: failed to stop port, cannot softreset ppb1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 vendor Intel, unknown product 0x0c47 rev 0x02 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 vendor Renesas, unknown product 0x0014 (class serial bus subclass USB, rev 0x03) at pci2 dev 0 function 0 not configured ppb2 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 vendor Intel, unknown product 0x0c48 rev 0x02 pci3 at ppb2 bus 3 ppb3 at pci3 dev 0 function 0 vendor Newbridge, unknown product 0x8113 rev 0x01 pci4 at ppb3 bus 4 em0 at pci4 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82541GI rev 0x05: apic 2 int 21, address 90:e2:ba:53:11:fd vga1 at pci4 dev 3 function 0 Matrox MGA G200eW rev 0x0a wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) ppb4 at pci0 dev 4 function 0 vendor Intel, unknown product 0x0c49 rev 0x02 pci5 at ppb4 bus 5 em1 at pci5 dev 0 function 0 Intel I350 rev 0x01: msi, address 00:25:90:c7:b4:48 em2 at pci5 dev 0 function 1 Intel I350 rev 0x01: msi, address 00:25:90:c7:b4:49 vendor Intel, unknown product 0x0c54 (class system unknown subclass 0x06, rev 0x02) at pci0 dev 14 function 0 not configured vendor Intel, unknown product 0x0c59 (class system subclass miscellaneous, rev 0x02) at pci0 dev 19 function 0 not configured vendor Intel, unknown product 0x0c5a (class system subclass miscellaneous, rev 0x02) at pci0 dev 19 function 1 not configured vendor Intel, unknown product 0x0c5f (class communications subclass serial, rev 0x02) at pci0 dev 20 function 0 not configured vendor Intel, unknown product 0x0c60 (class bridge subclass ISA, rev 0x02) at pci0 dev 31 function 0 not configured isa0 at mainbus0 com0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo com1 at isa0 port 0x2f8/8 irq 3: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo com1: console softraid0 at root scsibus1 at softraid0: 256 targets PXE boot MAC address 00:25:90:c7:b4:48, interface em1 root on rd0a swap on rd0b dump on rd0b
Re: Intel Atom S1260 (SuperServer 5017A-EF)
On 11/16/2013 00:54, Paul B. Henson wrote: Does anybody have any suggestions for a good/cheap 2 port SATA PCI card that supports openbsd? Maybe just buy the previous model 5015A-*? I have been running one of those for some years now and it works like a charm. From their website I see it has reached End-of-Life though. HW is standard Intel. specs from FreeBSD dmesg: Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D525 @ 1.80GHz (1807.21-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0x106ca Family = 6 Model = 1c Stepping = 10 Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE Features2=0x40e31dSSE3,DTES64,MON,DS_CPL,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,MOVBE AMD Features=0x2010NX,LM AMD Features2=0x1LAHF TSC: P-state invariant real memory = 4294967296 (4096 MB) avail memory = 3145445376 (2999 MB) ACPI APIC Table: 121710 APIC1048 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 2 core(s) x 2 HTT threads cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP/HT): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 2 cpu3 (AP/HT): APIC ID: 3 ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 4 ioapic0 Version 2.0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 acpi0: SMCI on motherboard acpi0: Overriding SCI Interrupt from IRQ 9 to IRQ 20 acpi0: [ITHREAD] acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi0: reservation of fee0, 1000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 0, a (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 10, bff0 (3) failed Timecounter ACPI-fast frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0 cpu1: ACPI CPU on acpi0 cpu2: ACPI CPU on acpi0 cpu3: ACPI CPU on acpi0 pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0 uhci0: Intel 82801I (ICH9) USB controller port 0xcc00-0xcc1f irq 16 at device 26.0 on pci0 uhci0: [ITHREAD] uhci0: LegSup = 0x2f00 usbus0 on uhci0 uhci1: Intel 82801I (ICH9) USB controller port 0xc880-0xc89f irq 21 at device 26.1 on pci0 uhci1: [ITHREAD] uhci1: LegSup = 0x2f00 usbus1 on uhci1 uhci2: Intel 82801I (ICH9) USB controller port 0xc800-0xc81f irq 19 at device 26.2 on pci0 uhci2: [ITHREAD] uhci2: LegSup = 0x2f00 usbus2 on uhci2 ehci0: Intel 82801I (ICH9) USB 2.0 controller mem 0xfebfbc00-0xfebfbfff irq 18 at device 26.7 on pci0 ehci0: [ITHREAD] usbus3: EHCI version 1.0 usbus3 on ehci0 pcib1: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge irq 17 at device 28.0 on pci0 pci1: ACPI PCI bus on pcib1 pcib2: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge irq 17 at device 28.4 on pci0 pci2: ACPI PCI bus on pcib2 em0: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 7.3.7 port 0xdc00-0xdc1f mem 0xfe9e-0xfe9f,0xfe9dc000-0xfe9d irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2 em0: Using MSIX interrupts with 3 vectors em0: [ITHREAD] em0: [ITHREAD] em0: [ITHREAD] em0: Ethernet address: 00:25:90:38:2d:e4 pcib3: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge irq 16 at device 28.5 on pci0 pci3: ACPI PCI bus on pcib3 em1: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 7.3.7 port 0xec00-0xec1f mem 0xfeae-0xfeaf,0xfeadc000-0xfead irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci3 em1: Using MSIX interrupts with 3 vectors em1: [ITHREAD] em1: [ITHREAD] em1: [ITHREAD] em1: Ethernet address: 00:25:90:38:2d:e5 uhci3: Intel 82801I (ICH9) USB controller port 0xc480-0xc49f irq 23 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci3: [ITHREAD] uhci3: LegSup = 0x2f00 usbus4 on uhci3 uhci4: Intel 82801I (ICH9) USB controller port 0xc400-0xc41f irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci4: [ITHREAD] uhci4: LegSup = 0x2f00 usbus5 on uhci4 uhci5: Intel 82801I (ICH9) USB controller port 0xc080-0xc09f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci5: [ITHREAD] uhci5: LegSup = 0x2f00 usbus6 on uhci5 ehci1: Intel 82801I (ICH9) USB 2.0 controller mem 0xfebfb800-0xfebfbbff irq 23 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci1: [ITHREAD] usbus7: EHCI version 1.0 usbus7 on ehci1 pcib4: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 30.0 on pci0 pci4: ACPI PCI bus on pcib4 vgapci0: VGA-compatible display mem 0xfc00-0xfcff,0xfdffc000-0xfdff,0xfe00-0xfe7f irq 17 at device 4.0 on pci4 isab0: PCI-ISA bridge at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: ISA bus on isab0 atapci0: Intel ICH8 SATA300 controller port 0xb480-0xb487,0xc000-0xc003,0xbc00-0xbc07,0xb880-0xb883,0xb800-0xb81f mem 0xfebfb000-0xfebfb7ff irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0 atapci0: [ITHREAD] atapci0: AHCI called from vendor specific driver atapci0: AHCI v1.20 controller with 6 3Gbps ports, PM not supported ata2: ATA channel at channel 0 on atapci0 ata2: [ITHREAD] ata3: ATA channel at channel 1 on atapci0 ata3: [ITHREAD] ata4: ATA channel at channel 2 on atapci0 ata4: [ITHREAD] ata5: ATA channel at channel 3 on atapci0 ata5: [ITHREAD] ata6: ATA channel at channel 4 on atapci0 ata6: [ITHREAD] ata7: ATA channel at channel 5 on atapci0 ata7: [ITHREAD] pci0: serial bus, SMBus at device 31.3 (no driver attached) acpi_button0: Power Button on acpi0 atrtc0: AT realtime clock port 0x70-0x71 irq 8 on acpi0 uart0: 16550 or compatible port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq
Re: Intel Atom S1260 (SuperServer 5017A-EF)
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 11:34:15AM +0100, Sebastian Benoit wrote: sorry, i mispoke, i meant 5015A-* and they dont have a dedicated ipmi port. Oh, yah, I've actually got one of those, it's been working great. I was actually planning on replacing it with this newer one, which supports more memory and has more power, and reallocate it to another task. anyway, dmesg attached, if someone cares. i'm not going to do anything more with it. cpu0: apic clock running at 99MHz cpu at mainbus0: not configured cpu at mainbus0: not configured cpu at mainbus0: not configured ahci0: failed to stop port, cannot softreset Hmm, not very promising, it didn't even initialize all four cores. The ahci error is one of the things the freebsd driver works around, the crappy marvell chipset breaks spec on the reset function. Lots of unknowns and unconfigured in that dmesg :(, guess I need to find another option. Least I found out before I bought it, thanks much for the heads up.
Re: Intel Atom S1260 (SuperServer 5017A-EF)
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 12:27:08PM +0100, Carsten Larsen wrote: Maybe just buy the previous model 5015A-*? I have been running one of those for some years now and it works like a charm. From their website I see it has reached End-of-Life though. I've actually got one of those, as you say, I've been very happy with it. I was looking for a newer model with more power and a separate IPMI port. Guess I've got to keep looking...
Re: Intel Atom S1260 (SuperServer 5017A-EF)
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 08:42:50PM -0800, Chris Cappuccio wrote: It's very old. This patch did not make it into the driver and I have no idea if those chips work through some other change, or not. Likely not. These older chips must be really buggy pieces of shit if you have to disable NCQ. Bleh. I can definitely see the openbsd philosophy leaning towards not supporting crap ;). The two workarounds in freebsd for this newer marvell sata chipset don't seem quite as egregious, but I'm not really a low level driver guy...
Re: Intel Atom S1260 (SuperServer 5017A-EF)
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 12:15:19PM -0800, Paul B. Henson wrote: sorry, i mispoke, i meant 5015A-* and they dont have a dedicated ipmi port. Oh, yah, I've actually got one of those, it's been working great. I was actually planning on replacing it with this newer one, which supports more memory and has more power, and reallocate it to another task. I forgot to mention, but the newer one also supports ECC memory, which is a plus.
Re: Intel Atom S1260 (SuperServer 5017A-EF)
Paul B. Henson(hen...@acm.org) on 2013.11.15 13:59:19 -0800: I'm looking at a supermicro SuperServer 5017A-EF for openbsd purposes, it's got an Intel atom S1260 SoC, Marvell 88SE9230 SATA, and i350AM2 dual gig interfaces. It looks like i350 support shipped in 5.2, and I'm pretty sure the Marvell chip is AHCI compliant, so I'd think that would be ok, but I'm leery about the SoC, I can't find any references to openbsd running on this specific chip or any atom based SoC for that matter and I'd hate to buy a box that didn't run openbsd well :(. Don't buy this one (yet). The Marvell 88SE9230 SATA does not work. i know cause i have one ;-) The earlier 5017A-* machines are ok. /B. Any feedback on this particular server, this atom SoC in specific, or even a general opinion on how well this might work out much appreciated :). Thanks much... --
Re: Intel Atom S1260 (SuperServer 5017A-EF)
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:25:50PM +0100, Sebastian Benoit wrote: Don't buy this one (yet). The Marvell 88SE9230 SATA does not work. i know cause i have one ;-) Arg, disappointing, but I'm glad I thought to check before buying :). Do you know if anybody's working on it? So much for standard AHCI sigh, does it not find it, or find it but crap out? Do all the other components work ok? I could temporarily stick a PCI SATA card in it to get by until the onboard SATA is supported if all the other pieces are happy. Does anybody have any suggestions for a good/cheap 2 port SATA PCI card that supports openbsd? The earlier 5017A-* machines are ok. Hmm, the only other 5017A model I see doesn't have IPMI. Thanks for the help...
Re: Intel Atom S1260 (SuperServer 5017A-EF)
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:25:50PM +0100, Sebastian Benoit wrote: Don't buy this one (yet). The Marvell 88SE9230 SATA does not work. i know cause i have one ;-) Hmm, looks like support was added in FreeBSD back in June 2012: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-stable-9/2012-June/002131.html so hopefully it wouldn't be to hard for somebody with the right skill set (unfortunately not me when it comes to low level drivers sigh) to tune it up for openbsd. Looking at the backstory behind that commit: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=32563 evidentally marvell doesn't follow the AHCI spec very well and the freebsd driver has workarounds for various quirks. Stupid marvell :(, too bad supermicro didn't use a better sata chip. Poking through the freebsd code, it looks like it has a workaround for Marvell controllers do not wait for readyness which appears to be adding in an extra delay when the controller is reset, and Some weird controllers do not return signature in FIS receive area. Read it from PxSIG register., which copies some results from a different location overwriting what was copied in from the standard location. Other than that, I don't see any other kludges, the rest is just the standard ahci stuff. I see the openbsd ahci driver is completely different than the freebsd one, so dunno how easily such workarounds could be implemented.
Re: Intel Atom S1260 (SuperServer 5017A-EF)
Paul B. Henson [hen...@acm.org] wrote: On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:25:50PM +0100, Sebastian Benoit wrote: Don't buy this one (yet). The Marvell 88SE9230 SATA does not work. i know cause i have one ;-) Hmm, looks like support was added in FreeBSD back in June 2012: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-stable-9/2012-June/002131.html so hopefully it wouldn't be to hard for somebody with the right skill set (unfortunately not me when it comes to low level drivers sigh) to tune it up for openbsd. Looking at the backstory behind that commit: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=32563 evidentally marvell doesn't follow the AHCI spec very well and the freebsd driver has workarounds for various quirks. Stupid marvell :(, too bad supermicro didn't use a better sata chip. Not directly related to these new chips, but, check this out: http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/openbsd/2007-10/2418.html It's very old. This patch did not make it into the driver and I have no idea if those chips work through some other change, or not. Likely not. These older chips must be really buggy pieces of shit if you have to disable NCQ.
Re: Intel Atom D510MO performance issue
Post output of 'vmstat -i' and read this thread http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=126203835608528w=2 On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Will Storey wsto...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was attempting to test temperatures under load by running cat /dev/urandom file and I thought my system had crashed. Instantly when this command begins the system becomes very unresponsive. All input over ssh and keyboard attached to the machine has seemingly varying, but significant, amounts of lag. I'm not sure what would be causing this behaviour or how to properly diagnose it. The system in question is using the Intel Atom D510MO motherboard ( http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/motherboards/D510MO/D510MO-overview.htm ). I'm not sure how relevant this is, but the top output seems to indicate something: load averages: B 1.73, B 0.97, B 0.46 03:18:14 33 processes: B 30 idle, 3 on processor CPU0 states: B 0.0% user, B 0.0% nice, B 0.4% system, 99.6% interrupt, B 0.0% idle CPU1 states: B 0.0% user, B 0.0% nice, B 6.3% system, 53.6% interrupt, 40.1% idle CPU2 states: B 0.0% user, B 0.0% nice, B 100% system, B 0.0% interrupt, B 0.0% idle CPU3 states: B 0.0% user, B 0.0% nice, B 3.7% system, 50.5% interrupt, 45.8% idle Memory: Real: 10M/137M act/tot B Free: 845M B Swap: 0K/2051M used/tot B PID USERNAME PRI NICE B SIZE B RES STATE B B WAIT B B B TIME B B CPU COMMAND 16216 root B B B -5 B B 0 B 184K B 148K sleep/2 B getblk B 11:18 1129.88% cat 15668 _ntp B B B 56 B B 0 B 708K B 812K onproc/0 B - B B B B 0:42 77.64% ntpd B 2808 root B B B 2 B B 0 B 624K B 724K sleep/3 B poll B B B 0:17 60.40% ntpd B 6584 root B B B 32 B B 0 B 808K 1392K onproc/1 B - B B B B 0:08 B 9.23% top 16545 root B B B 32 B B 0 B 968K 1420K onproc/3 B - B B B B 0:04 B 8.15% sendmail 23931 will B B B 2 B B 0 3340K 1812K sleep/1 B select B B 0:01 B 2.54% sshd B 197 _syslogd B 2 B B 0 B 488K B 644K sleep/1 B poll B B B 0:00 B 1.76% syslogd B 2449 _pflogd B B 4 B B 0 B 540K B 292K sleep/3 B bpf B B B 0:01 B 1.71% pflogd 17554 will B B B 2 B B 0 3200K 1804K idle B B B select B B 0:03 B 0.83% sshd This is after leaving the process running for a few minutes. top updates maybe once every minute while this goes on and the % cpu time slowly increases I'm aware this is a newish piece of equipment and may not be fully supported yet so I'm not sure if that is the reason or there is some bug here. Or that this is anything that should be too worried about. I initially found this behaviour on 4.6-release but then tried the Feb 23? (or which is on ftp as of a couple hours ago) snapshot. Same behaviour on both. Both were i386. I haven't yet tried amd64. Also, I tried a different test running infinite loops to max out all the CPUs and the system seemed to behave fine. Oh, I just tried the SP kernel while writing this and the problem only seems to occur when running the MP kernel. Sorry for the noise if I'm missing something. Here's the dmesg: OpenBSD 4.7-beta (GENERIC.MP) #423: Tue Feb 23 12:24:22 MST 2010 B B dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP RTC BIOS diagnostic error 80clock_battery cpu0: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D510 @ 1.66GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.67 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS H,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,CX16,xTPR real mem B = 1055203328 (1006MB) avail mem = 1013702656 (966MB) RTC BIOS diagnostic error 80clock_battery mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 11/17/09, SMBIOS rev. 2.5 @ 0xe4410 (25 entries) bios0: vendor Intel Corp. version MOPNV10J.86A.0154.2009.1117.1624 date 11/17/2009 bios0: Intel Corporation D510MO acpi0 at bios0: rev 2 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC MCFG HPET SSDT acpi0: wakeup devices SLPB(S4) PS2M(S4) PS2K(S4) UAR1(S4) UAR2(S4) P32_(S4) ILAN(S4) PEX0(S4) PEX1(S4) PEX2(S4) PEX3(S4) UHC1(S3) UHC2(S3) UHC3(S3) UHC4(S3) EHCI(S3) AZAL(S4) acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: apic clock running at 166MHz cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor) cpu1: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D510 @ 1.66GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.67 GHz cpu1: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS H,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,CX16,xTPR cpu2 at mainbus0: apid 2 (application processor) cpu2: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D510 @ 1.66GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.67 GHz cpu2: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS H,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,CX16,xTPR cpu3 at mainbus0: apid 3 (application processor) cpu3: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D510 @ 1.66GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.67 GHz cpu3:
Re: Intel Atom D510MO performance issue
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 03:47:24 -0800 Will Storey wsto...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure how relevant this is, but the top output seems to indicate something: Memory: Real: 10M/137M act/tot Free: 845M Swap: 0K/2051M used/tot PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE WAIT TIMECPU COMMAND 16216 root -50 184K 148K sleep/2 getblk 11:18 1129.88% cat 15668 _ntp 560 708K 812K onproc/0 - 0:42 77.64% ntpd 2808 root 20 624K 724K sleep/3 poll 0:17 60.40% ntpd 1129.88%, 77.64%, and 60.40% CPU usage?
Re: Intel Atom D510MO performance issue
On 02/25/2010 06:47 AM, Will Storey wrote: Hi, I was attempting to test temperatures under load by running cat /dev/urandom file and I thought my system had crashed. Instantly when this command begins the system becomes very unresponsive. All input over ssh and keyboard attached to the machine has seemingly varying, but significant, amounts of lag. I'm not sure what would be causing this behaviour or how to properly diagnose it. The system in question is using the Intel Atom D510MO motherboard ( http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/motherboards/D510MO/D510MO-overview.htm ). I'm not sure how relevant this is, but the top output seems to indicate something: load averages: 1.73, 0.97, 0.46 03:18:14 33 processes: 30 idle, 3 on processor CPU0 states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.4% system, 99.6% interrupt, 0.0% idle CPU1 states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 6.3% system, 53.6% interrupt, 40.1% idle CPU2 states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 100% system, 0.0% interrupt, 0.0% idle CPU3 states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 3.7% system, 50.5% interrupt, 45.8% idle Memory: Real: 10M/137M act/tot Free: 845M Swap: 0K/2051M used/tot PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE WAIT TIMECPU COMMAND 16216 root -50 184K 148K sleep/2 getblk 11:18 1129.88% cat 15668 _ntp 560 708K 812K onproc/0 - 0:42 77.64% ntpd 2808 root 20 624K 724K sleep/3 poll 0:17 60.40% ntpd 6584 root 320 808K 1392K onproc/1 - 0:08 9.23% top 16545 root 320 968K 1420K onproc/3 - 0:04 8.15% sendmail 23931 will 20 3340K 1812K sleep/1 select0:01 2.54% sshd 197 _syslogd 20 488K 644K sleep/1 poll 0:00 1.76% syslogd 2449 _pflogd40 540K 292K sleep/3 bpf 0:01 1.71% pflogd 17554 will 20 3200K 1804K idle select0:03 0.83% sshd This is after leaving the process running for a few minutes. top updates maybe once every minute while this goes on and the % cpu time slowly increases I'm aware this is a newish piece of equipment and may not be fully supported yet so I'm not sure if that is the reason or there is some bug here. Or that this is anything that should be too worried about. I initially found this behaviour on 4.6-release but then tried the Feb 23? (or which is on ftp as of a couple hours ago) snapshot. Same behaviour on both. Both were i386. I haven't yet tried amd64. Also, I tried a different test running infinite loops to max out all the CPUs and the system seemed to behave fine. Oh, I just tried the SP kernel while writing this and the problem only seems to occur when running the MP kernel. Sorry for the noise if I'm missing something. Here's the dmesg: OpenBSD 4.7-beta (GENERIC.MP) #423: Tue Feb 23 12:24:22 MST 2010 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP RTC BIOS diagnostic error 80clock_battery cpu0: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D510 @ 1.66GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.67 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,CX16,xTPR real mem = 1055203328 (1006MB) avail mem = 1013702656 (966MB) RTC BIOS diagnostic error 80clock_battery mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 11/17/09, SMBIOS rev. 2.5 @ 0xe4410 (25 entries) bios0: vendor Intel Corp. version MOPNV10J.86A.0154.2009.1117.1624 date 11/17/2009 bios0: Intel Corporation D510MO acpi0 at bios0: rev 2 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC MCFG HPET SSDT acpi0: wakeup devices SLPB(S4) PS2M(S4) PS2K(S4) UAR1(S4) UAR2(S4) P32_(S4) ILAN(S4) PEX0(S4) PEX1(S4) PEX2(S4) PEX3(S4) UHC1(S3) UHC2(S3) UHC3(S3) UHC4(S3) EHCI(S3) AZAL(S4) acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: apic clock running at 166MHz cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor) cpu1: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D510 @ 1.66GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.67 GHz cpu1: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,CX16,xTPR cpu2 at mainbus0: apid 2 (application processor) cpu2: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D510 @ 1.66GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.67 GHz cpu2: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,CX16,xTPR cpu3 at mainbus0: apid 3 (application processor) cpu3: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D510 @ 1.66GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.67 GHz cpu3: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,CX16,xTPR ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 8 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 8 acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 5 (P32_) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 1 (PEX0) acpiprt3 at
Re: Intel Atom D510MO performance issue
Use arandom. On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 6:47 AM, Will Storey wsto...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was attempting to test temperatures under load by running cat /dev/urandom file and I thought my system had crashed. Instantly when this command begins the system becomes very unresponsive. All input over ssh and keyboard attached to the machine has seemingly varying, but significant, amounts of lag.
Re: Intel Atom and D945GCLF2
Original message from Steve B at 27-9-2008 4:24 Is anyone running OpenBSD on one of these boards? The supported platform page does not list either the chipset or the CPU so I'm guesing it is not supported at this time. I have been running OpenBSD 4.3 for several weeks on an Atom D945GCLF and didn't encounter any problems. The dmesg shows a few messages that indicate that not everything is fully supported yet but the board still runs fine. Daniel OpenBSD 4.3-stable (GENERIC) #8: Wed Jul 30 22:03:55 CEST 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC RTC BIOS diagnostic error 80clock_battery cpu0: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 230 @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.60 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,CX16,xTPR cpu0: unknown i686 model 12, can't get bus clock (0x4308) real mem = 526192640 (501MB) avail mem = 500740096 (477MB) RTC BIOS diagnostic error 80clock_battery mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 04/27/08, SMBIOS rev. 2.4 @ 0xe3590 (23 entries) bios0: vendor Intel Corp. version LF94510J.86A.0038.2008.0427.2223 date 04/27/2008 bios0: Intel Corporation D945GCLF apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2 apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown, estimated 0:00 hours acpi at bios0 function 0x0 not configured pcibios at bios0 function 0x1a not configured bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xae00! 0xcb000/0x1000 cpu0 at mainbus0 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82945G Host rev 0x02 agp0 at pchb0: aperture at 0x2000, size 0x1000 vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel 82945G Video rev 0x02 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 Intel 82801GB HD Audio rev 0x01: irq 9 azalia0: codec[s]: Realtek/0x0662 audio0 at azalia0 ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x01 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 re0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 Realtek 8101E rev 0x02: unknown ASIC (0x2480), irq 11, address 00:1c:c0:45:21:25 rlphy0 at re0 phy 7: RTL8201L 10/100 PHY, rev. 1 ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 2 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x01 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 3 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x01 pci3 at ppb2 bus 3 uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: irq 10 uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: irq 11 uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: irq 9 uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 3 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: irq 11 ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: irq 10 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 ppb3 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BA Hub-to-PCI rev 0xe1 pci4 at ppb3 bus 4 em0 at pci4 dev 0 function 0 Intel PRO/1000MT (82546GB) rev 0x03: irq 10, address 00:1b:21:14:48:78 em1 at pci4 dev 0 function 1 Intel PRO/1000MT (82546GB) rev 0x03: irq 9, address 00:1b:21:14:48:79 ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801GB LPC rev 0x01: PM disabled pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 Intel 82801GB IDE rev 0x01: DMA, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: Hitachi XX.V.3.3.0.0 wd0: 1-sector PIO, LBA, 244MB, 500400 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4 pciide0: channel 1 ignored (disabled) pciide1 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 Intel 82801GB SATA rev 0x01: DMA, channel 0 configured to native-PCI, channel 1 configured to native-PCI pciide1: using irq 11 for native-PCI interrupt ichiic0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 Intel 82801GB SMBus rev 0x01: irq 11 iic0 at ichiic0 admtm0 at iic0 addr 0x2d: 47m192 spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x50: 512MB DDR2 SDRAM non-parity PC2-4200CL5 usb1 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb2 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub2 at usb2 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb3 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0 uhub3 at usb3 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb4 at uhci3: USB revision 1.0 uhub4 at usb4 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 isa0 at ichpcib0 isadma0 at isa0 pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pms0 at pckbc0 (aux slot) pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot wsmouse0 at pms0 mux 0 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker spkr0 at pcppi0 lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7 npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: reported by CPUID; using exception 16 pccom0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo biomask ef6d netmask ef6d ttymask ffef mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support uftdi0 at uhub4 port 2 Crystalfontz Crystalfontz CFA-634 USB LCD rev 1.10/2.00 addr 2 ucom0 at uftdi0 portno 1 softraid0 at root root on wd0a swap on wd0b dump on wd0b
Re: Intel Atom and D945GCLF2
Is anyone running OpenBSD on one of these boards? The supported platform page does not list either the chipset or the CPU so I'm guesing it is not supported at this time. I have been running OpenBSD 4.3 for several weeks on an Atom D945GCLF and didn't encounter any problems. The dmesg shows a few messages that indicate that not everything is fully supported yet but the board still runs fine. The situation is really really really simple. If it is a PC, we run on it.
Re: Intel Atom and D945GCLF2
2008/9/26 Steve B [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is anyone running OpenBSD on one of these boards? The supported platform page does not list either the chipset or the CPU so I'm guesing it is not supported at this time. Steve Hi, I got an Acer One that is the same chipset, I will try on thursday to install lastest snapshot. -- Atentamente Andris Genovez Tobar / Departamento Tecnico COMERCIAL SALVADOR PACHECO MORA S.A. / DESDE 1945 SPM TECNOLOGIAS Cuenca, Luis Cordero 9-70 y Gran Colombia Av. 27 de Febrero y Jacinto Flores Telifono. 593-7-2842388 ext 103 Fax. 593-7-2842388 ext 120 Celular 593-97670874 593-96816996 Alegro Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Viaje: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.cspmsa.com www.crice.org
Re: Intel Atom and D945GCLF2
Andres Genovez wrote: 2008/9/26 Steve B [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is anyone running OpenBSD on one of these boards? The supported platform page does not list either the chipset or the CPU so I'm guesing it is not supported at this time. Steve Hi, I got an Acer One that is the same chipset, I will try on thursday to install lastest snapshot. -- Atentamente Andris Genovez Tobar / Departamento Tecnico COMERCIAL SALVADOR PACHECO MORA S.A. / DESDE 1945 SPM TECNOLOGIAS Cuenca, Luis Cordero 9-70 y Gran Colombia Av. 27 de Febrero y Jacinto Flores Telifono. 593-7-2842388 ext 103 Fax. 593-7-2842388 ext 120 Celular 593-97670874 593-96816996 Alegro Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Viaje: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.cspmsa.com www.crice.org The Intel motherboard support page lists the Atom for Vista and WinXP only. While other boards are or not listed to be compatible with other OSes. I actually have two such boards, two different assemblies: AA E270402-304 and ...-305. The ...-305 installed 4.4/amd64 and ran it for a while (couple of days) till it hung. On both systems, booting bsd.rd and installing 4.4/i386 seemed OK until reboot. Old BIOS message: no valid system. When using GRUB or GAG, systems boot until the mtrr message, before detecting the mouse. Sorry, no dmesg but tons of \M^? I only got ArchLinux64 and WinXP working. Not spending too much time on this as neither Intel, nor OpenBSD amd64 qualifies this system.
