Re: OpenBSD todo list?

2006-04-16 Thread Andrew Daugherity
On 4/11/06, Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 rewrite units.  it can convert euros to dollars at an awesome rate of
 94 cents per euro, but can't convert temperature.

What's worse is it *does* recognize 'degF' and 'degC' units, but the
conversion between them only does the multiply/divide by 9/5, but not
the add/subtract 32 part, so it gives incorrect results.  While this
inability is mentioned in the man page, it would be better to not
include 'degF' at all than to have it be incorrect.  Most equations
would use SI units anyway, right?  (When I first discovered the
degF/degC units grep'ing through the units library, my first thought
was that the man page was outdated and it did handle them now;
unfortunately that is not the case.)

Similarly, currencies fluctuate enough to not be worth including.

Unfortunately, this limitation of multiplicative scales only most
likely runs rather deep, and would probably require a large amount of
work to fix.

-Andrew



Re: OpenBSD todo list?

2006-04-16 Thread Nick Guenther
On 4/16/06, Andrew Daugherity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 4/11/06, Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  rewrite units.  it can convert euros to dollars at an awesome rate of
  94 cents per euro, but can't convert temperature.

 What's worse is it *does* recognize 'degF' and 'degC' units, but the
 conversion between them only does the multiply/divide by 9/5, but not
 the add/subtract 32 part, so it gives incorrect results.  While this
 inability is mentioned in the man page, it would be better to not
 include 'degF' at all than to have it be incorrect.  Most equations
 would use SI units anyway, right?  (When I first discovered the
 degF/degC units grep'ing through the units library, my first thought
 was that the man page was outdated and it did handle them now;
 unfortunately that is not the case.)

 Similarly, currencies fluctuate enough to not be worth including.

 Unfortunately, this limitation of multiplicative scales only most
 likely runs rather deep, and would probably require a large amount of
 work to fix.

Why not just redesign the program then, and allow arbitrary
conversions (eg additive, multiplicative, exponential)? As for money,
a script could be written to pull data from somewhere and update the
definitions. http://www.xe.com/dfs/ provides such a service, but for
an extraordinary fee, but I've just found that http://www.imf.org
provides any data you want for any of the 184 currencies they oversee
for any date for free.

This sounds like a fun project. If no one else wants it, I'll do it.

-Nick



Re: OpenBSD todo list?

2006-04-16 Thread Nick Guenther
On 4/16/06, Nick Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 4/16/06, Andrew Daugherity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've just found that http://www.imf.org
 provides any data you want for any of the 184 currencies they oversee
 for any date for free.

Oh, I lied, it's only 52 countries. Still useful, but does anyone know
of a more complete source? Where do exchange rates come from anyway?

-Nick



Re: OpenBSD todo list?

2006-04-11 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 12:40:45AM -0401, Ray Lai wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 10, 2006 at 08:44:36PM -0700, Shawn Nock wrote:
  A quick search of the archive and google didn't turn anything up, so 
  I'll ask here.
  
  Is there (if not could there be) a document that describes portions of 
  the tree that particularly need attention? I am looking for a way to 
  contribute and without a little direction the task seems daunting. The 
  FreeBSD folks recently started maintaining such a todo list. It seems to 
  have worked out fairly well for them. I realize that those in a position 
  to put together such a list are also the ones not likely to have the 
  time, but I believe this could prove useful (I assume there are more 
  like me who are new and/or haven't found a comfort zone/focus yet).
 
 OpenRCS needs help.  Diffs that implement missing functionality,
 diffs that match GNU RCS behavior in existing functions, and
 additional regression tests are all welcome.
 
 I look forward to your code.

There was also an open request for help with m4, not too long ago, on
[EMAIL PROTECTED] IIRC, Marc Espie would like traceback functionality.

Not sure if someone is already working on it.

Joachim



Re: OpenBSD todo list?

2006-04-11 Thread Kent Watsen
Christmas in April?  ;)  A couple requests I recall seeing (*cough* 
posting *cough*):


 - enable chroot-ed apps to dump core (this is an easy one)
 - enable openbsd to run as a para-virtualized Xen guest (this is more 
involved)


Kent


Shawn Nock wrote:
A quick search of the archive and google didn't turn anything up, so 
I'll ask here.


Is there (if not could there be) a document that describes portions of 
the tree that particularly need attention? I am looking for a way to 
contribute and without a little direction the task seems daunting. The 
FreeBSD folks recently started maintaining such a todo list. It seems 
to have worked out fairly well for them. I realize that those in a 
position to put together such a list are also the ones not likely to 
have the time, but I believe this could prove useful (I assume there 
are more like me who are new and/or haven't found a comfort zone/focus 
yet).


Cheers,
Shawn




Re: OpenBSD todo list?

2006-04-11 Thread Eric Pancer
On Tue, 2006-04-11 at 09:25:55 -0700, Kent Watsen proclaimed...

 Christmas in April?  ;)  A couple requests I recall seeing (*cough* 
 posting *cough*):
 
  - enable chroot-ed apps to dump core (this is an easy one)
  - enable openbsd to run as a para-virtualized Xen guest (this is more 
 involved)

I see your two requests, and up you the following.

IPv6 enabled syslogd(8)



Re: OpenBSD todo list?

2006-04-11 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Mon, 10 Apr 2006, Shawn Nock wrote:

 A quick search of the archive and google didn't turn anything up, so I'll ask
 here.
 
 Is there (if not could there be) a document that describes portions of the
 tree that particularly need attention? I am looking for a way to contribute
 and without a little direction the task seems daunting. The FreeBSD folks
 recently started maintaining such a todo list. It seems to have worked out
 fairly well for them. I realize that those in a position to put together such
 a list are also the ones not likely to have the time, but I believe this could
 prove useful (I assume there are more like me who are new and/or haven't found
 a comfort zone/focus yet).

The PR database is one possible starting point.

-Otto



Re: OpenBSD todo list?

2006-04-11 Thread Ted Unangst
On 4/10/06, Shawn Nock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 A quick search of the archive and google didn't turn anything up, so
 I'll ask here.

rewrite units.  it can convert euros to dollars at an awesome rate of
94 cents per euro, but can't convert temperature.

 Is there (if not could there be) a document that describes portions of
 the tree that particularly need attention? I am looking for a way to
 contribute and without a little direction the task seems daunting. The
 FreeBSD folks recently started maintaining such a todo list. It seems to
 have worked out fairly well for them. I realize that those in a position
 to put together such a list are also the ones not likely to have the
 time, but I believe this could prove useful (I assume there are more
 like me who are new and/or haven't found a comfort zone/focus yet).

 Cheers,
 Shawn


 --
 Shawn Nock (OpenPGP: 0xEF9B08E7)
 Broadcast Engineer; KUAT Communications Group
 University of Arizona
 nock 'at ' arizona 'dot' edu



Re: OpenBSD todo list?

2006-04-10 Thread Eric Pancer
On Mon, 2006-04-10 at 20:44:36 -0700, Shawn Nock proclaimed...

 A quick search of the archive and google didn't turn anything up, so 
 I'll ask here.

r'ut r'oh, you must be new here...

don your flame suit, gay apparel!



Re: OpenBSD todo list?

2006-04-10 Thread Ray Lai
On Mon, Apr 10, 2006 at 08:44:36PM -0700, Shawn Nock wrote:
 A quick search of the archive and google didn't turn anything up, so 
 I'll ask here.
 
 Is there (if not could there be) a document that describes portions of 
 the tree that particularly need attention? I am looking for a way to 
 contribute and without a little direction the task seems daunting. The 
 FreeBSD folks recently started maintaining such a todo list. It seems to 
 have worked out fairly well for them. I realize that those in a position 
 to put together such a list are also the ones not likely to have the 
 time, but I believe this could prove useful (I assume there are more 
 like me who are new and/or haven't found a comfort zone/focus yet).

OpenRCS needs help.  Diffs that implement missing functionality,
diffs that match GNU RCS behavior in existing functions, and
additional regression tests are all welcome.

I look forward to your code.

-Ray-