Re: integrated graphics

2013-01-12 Thread Scott McEachern

On 01/12/13 11:12, Peter Hessler wrote:

On 2013 Jan 12 (Sat) at 10:57:56 -0500 (-0500), Scott McEachern wrote:
:
:I also have an onboard Intel 4000:
:
:vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "Intel HD Graphics 4000" rev 0x09
:

Just works.  I have no xorg.conf or any special configuration.


vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "Intel HD Graphics 4000" rev 0x09





Hmm, exact same line in both our dmesg's.

Unfortunately, when I run "#xdm", my screen goes blank and locks up.  My 
ssh connections are gone, the keyboard and mouse are dead so I can't get 
back to the console and I have to hard reset.  When I reboot, I find 
nothing in /root/.xsession-errors.


Running "#X -configure" causes a segfault, or so it says at the bottom 
of my Xorg.0.log (below).


It's too bad really, because this is a pretty sweet machine and I'd 
really like to use it as my primary work*station* instead of a 
work*horse*.  Although I haven't tried it lately (as in, the last few 
months), I have tried fooling around with a custom Xorg.conf with no 
success.


Methinks I'm just going to have to wait until either it starts to "just 
work" (I really don't care about acceleration) or KMS arrives.



[   803.243]
X.Org X Server 1.12.3
Release Date: 2012-07-09
[   803.243] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
[   803.243] Build Operating System: OpenBSD 5.2 amd64
[   803.243] Current Operating System: OpenBSD elminster.blackstaff.ca 
5.2 GENERIC.MP#13 amd64

[   803.244] Build Date: 07 January 2013  09:18:33AM
[   803.244]
[   803.244] Current version of pixman: 0.28.0
[   803.244]Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
[   803.244] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default 
setting,

(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[   803.244] (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sat Jan 12 
11:23:17 2013

[   803.244] (II) Loader magic: 0x10d932b53e0
[   803.244] (II) Module ABI versions:
[   803.244]X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
[   803.244]X.Org Video Driver: 12.0
[   803.244]X.Org XInput driver : 16.0
[   803.244]X.Org Server Extension : 6.0
[   804.095] (--) checkDevMem: using aperture driver /dev/xf86
[   804.095] (--) PCI:*(0:0:2:0) 8086:0162:1043:84ca rev 9, Mem @ 
0xf380/4194304, 0xd000/268435456, I/O @ 0xf000/64

[   804.096] List of video drivers:
[   804.096]apm
[   804.096]ark
[   804.096]ati
[   804.096]chips
[   804.096]cirrus
[   804.096]dummy
[   804.096]glint
[   804.096]i128
[   804.096]intel
[   804.096]mach64
[   804.096]mga
[   804.096]neomagic
[   804.096]nv
[   804.096]openchrome
[   804.096]r128
[   804.096]radeon
[   804.096]rendition
[   804.096]s3
[   804.096]s3virge
[   804.096]savage
[   804.096]siliconmotion
[   804.096]sis
[   804.096]tdfx
[   804.096]trident
[   804.096]tseng
[   804.096]wsudl
[   804.096]wsudl
[   804.096]vmware
[   804.096]vesa
[   804.096] (II) LoadModule: "apm"
[   804.097] (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/apm_drv.so
[   804.097] (II) Module apm: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[   804.097]compiled for 1.12.3, module version = 1.2.5
[   804.097]Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[   804.097]ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 12.0
[   804.097] (II) LoadModule: "ark"
[   804.097] (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/ark_drv.so
[   804.097] (II) Module ark: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[   804.097]compiled for 1.12.3, module version = 0.7.5
[   804.097]Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[   804.097]ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 12.0
[   804.097] (II) LoadModule: "ati"
[   804.097] (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/ati_drv.so
[   804.098] (II) Module ati: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[   804.098]compiled for 1.12.3, module version = 6.14.6
[   804.098]Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[   804.098]ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 12.0
[   804.098] (II) LoadModule: "chips"
[   804.098] (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/chips_drv.so
[   804.098] (II) Module chips: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[   804.098]compiled for 1.12.3, module version = 1.2.5
[   804.098]Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[   804.098]ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 12.0
[   804.098] (II) LoadModule: "cirrus"
[   804.098] (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/cirrus_drv.so
[   804.098] (II) Module cirrus: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[   804.098]compiled for 1.12.3, module version = 1.5.1
[   804.098]Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[   804.098]ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 12.0
[   804.098] (II) LoadModule: "dummy"
[   804.098] (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/dummy_drv.so
[   804.099] (II) Module dummy: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[   804.099]compiled for 1.12.3, module version = 0.3.6
[   80

Re: integrated graphics

2013-01-12 Thread Peter Hessler
On 2013 Jan 12 (Sat) at 10:57:56 -0500 (-0500), Scott McEachern wrote:
:On 01/12/13 10:27, Peter Hessler wrote:
:>I have Intel 4000 here, and I am unaccelerated, but do have native
:>resolution X, and lots of xterms and Firefox works as expected.
:>
:>2000 should be totally fine, and accelerated if I remember correctly.
:>
:
:I also have an onboard Intel 4000:
:
:vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "Intel HD Graphics 4000" rev 0x09
:
:but I'll be damned if I can get X to work.  Did it "just work" or are
:you using a custom conf file?  (Actually, I haven't tried on the last
:couple of snapshots; I'll give it another try when this box is done
:some stuff.)  I gave up on X and use that machine mostly via ssh or
:console, figuring I'll wait until KMS arrives.  Or sometimes use it
:for Windows7.
:

Just works.  I have no xorg.conf or any special configuration.


OpenBSD 5.2-current (GENERIC.MP) #8: Fri Dec 21 01:35:40 MST 2012
dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
real mem = 1685248 (16106MB)
avail mem = 16416804864 (15656MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.7 @ 0xdae9d000 (71 entries)
bios0: vendor LENOVO version "G7ET29WW (1.11 )" date 05/24/2012
bios0: LENOVO 2356GDG
acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SLIC TCPA SSDT SSDT SSDT HPET APIC MCFG ECDT FPDT ASF! 
UEFI UEFI POAT SSDT SSDT DMAR UEFI
acpi0: wakeup devices LID_(S4) SLPB(S3) IGBE(S4) EXP3(S4) XHCI(S3) EHC1(S3) 
EHC2(S3) HDEF(S4)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3320M CPU @ 2.60GHz, 2594.53 MHz
cpu0: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,LONG,LAHF,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SMEP,ERMS
cpu0: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
cpu0: apic clock running at 99MHz
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3320M CPU @ 2.60GHz, 2594.11 MHz
cpu1: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,LONG,LAHF,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SMEP,ERMS
cpu1: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
cpu2 at mainbus0: apid 2 (application processor)
cpu2: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3320M CPU @ 2.60GHz, 2594.11 MHz
cpu2: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,LONG,LAHF,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SMEP,ERMS
cpu2: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
cpu3 at mainbus0: apid 3 (application processor)
cpu3: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3320M CPU @ 2.60GHz, 2594.11 MHz
cpu3: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,LONG,LAHF,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SMEP,ERMS
cpu3: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins
acpimcfg0 at acpi0 addr 0xf800, bus 0-63
acpiec0 at acpi0
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEG_)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 2 (EXP1)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 3 (EXP2)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 4 (EXP3)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (EXP5)
acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus -1 (EXP6)
acpiprt7 at acpi0: bus -1 (EXP7)
acpiprt8 at acpi0: bus -1 (EXP8)
acpicpu0 at acpi0: C2, C1, PSS
acpicpu1 at acpi0: C2, C1, PSS
acpicpu2 at acpi0: C2, C1, PSS
acpicpu3 at acpi0: C2, C1, PSS
acpipwrres0 at acpi0: PUBS
acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature is 103 degC
acpibtn0 at acpi0: LID_
acpibtn1 at acpi0: SLPB
acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT0 model "45N1039" serial  1391 type LION oem "Panasonic"
acpibat1 at acpi0: BAT1 model "45N1041" serial  1586 type LiP oem "SONY"
acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit online
acpithinkpad0 at acpi0
cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 2594 MHz: speeds: 2601, 2600, 2500, 2400, 2300, 2200, 
2100, 2000, 1900, 1800, 1700, 1600, 1500, 1400, 1300, 1200 MHz
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Intel Core 3G Host" rev 0x09
vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "Intel HD Graphics 4000" rev 0x09
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
intagp0 at vga1
agp0 at intagp0: aperture at 0xe000, size 0x1000
inteldrm0 at vga1: apic 2 int 16
drm0 at inteldrm0
"Intel 7 Series xHCI" rev 0x04 at pci0 dev 20 function 0 not configured
"Intel 7 Series MEI" rev 0x04 at pci0 dev 22 function 0 not configured
p

Re: integrated graphics

2013-01-12 Thread Scott McEachern

On 01/12/13 10:27, Peter Hessler wrote:

I have Intel 4000 here, and I am unaccelerated, but do have native
resolution X, and lots of xterms and Firefox works as expected.

2000 should be totally fine, and accelerated if I remember correctly.



I also have an onboard Intel 4000:

vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "Intel HD Graphics 4000" rev 0x09

but I'll be damned if I can get X to work.  Did it "just work" or are 
you using a custom conf file?  (Actually, I haven't tried on the last 
couple of snapshots; I'll give it another try when this box is done some 
stuff.)  I gave up on X and use that machine mostly via ssh or console, 
figuring I'll wait until KMS arrives.  Or sometimes use it for Windows7.


dmesg:

OpenBSD 5.2-current (GENERIC.MP) #13: Tue Jan  8 13:26:08 MST 2013
dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
real mem = 16851365888 (16070MB)
avail mem = 16380280832 (15621MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.7 @ 0xeb410 (112 entries)
bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version "0408" date 06/05/2012
bios0: ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. P8Z77-V PREMIUM
acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
acpi0: sleep states S0 S1 S3 S4 S5
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC FPDT MCFG HPET SSDT SSDT SSDT MSDM BGRT
acpi0: wakeup devices PS2K(S4) PS2M(S4) P0P1(S4) PXSX(S4) RP01(S4) 
PXSX(S4) RP02(S4) PXSX(S4) RP03(S4) PXSX(S4) RP04(S4) PXSX(S4) RP05(S4) 
PXSX(S4) RP06(S4) PXSX(S4) RP08(S4) PEGP(S4) PEG0(S4) PEG1(S4) PEG2(S4) 
PEG3(S4) RP07(S4) GLAN(S4) EHC1(S4) EHC2(S4) XHC_(S4) HDEF(S4) PWRB(S4)

acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz, 3606.15 MHz
cpu0: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,LONG,LAHF,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SMEP,ERMS

cpu0: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
cpu0: apic clock running at 103MHz
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 2 (application processor)
cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz, 3605.66 MHz
cpu1: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,LONG,LAHF,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SMEP,ERMS

cpu1: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
cpu2 at mainbus0: apid 4 (application processor)
cpu2: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz, 3605.66 MHz
cpu2: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,LONG,LAHF,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SMEP,ERMS

cpu2: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
cpu3 at mainbus0: apid 6 (application processor)
cpu3: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz, 3605.66 MHz
cpu3: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,LONG,LAHF,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SMEP,ERMS

cpu3: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
cpu4 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu4: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz, 3605.66 MHz
cpu4: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,LONG,LAHF,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SMEP,ERMS

cpu4: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
cpu5 at mainbus0: apid 3 (application processor)
cpu5: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz, 3605.66 MHz
cpu5: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,LONG,LAHF,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SMEP,ERMS

cpu5: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
cpu6 at mainbus0: apid 5 (application processor)
cpu6: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz, 3605.66 MHz
cpu6: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,LONG,LAHF,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SMEP,ERMS

cpu6: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
cpu7 at mainbus0: apid 7 (application processor)
cpu7: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz, 3605.66 MHz
cpu7: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,

Re: integrated graphics

2013-01-12 Thread Zoran Kolic
> I have Intel 4000 here, and I am unaccelerated, but do have native
> resolution X, and lots of xterms and Firefox works as expected.
> 2000 should be totally fine, and accelerated if I remember correctly.

Great! Quick search revealed I could go after g550 for about
35 euros. It has hd 2000 inside. The same price tag is for
amd fm1 a4-3400 with HD 6410D. Would it have the same reso-
lution 1280x1024? Aside that, almost all newer amd chips
have 7000.
Best regards

 Zoran



Re: integrated graphics

2013-01-12 Thread Peter Hessler
On 2013 Jan 12 (Sat) at 16:23:42 +0100 (+0100), Zoran Kolic wrote:
:> The core i3-3225 is ivy bridge based, which means the graphics only works 
under \
:> -current and no DRM acceleration until the driver support improves.
:
:Thanks for the answer.
:I must be wrong defining what I want. I would like to be able
:to do "startx" and have 1280x1024, with browser and few shells.
:Nothing more. If this is possible with some sandy bridge, even
:better. Or some amd apu, further better. The most sophisticated
:task would be reading pdf file in xpdf or looking at some pics
:with feh. No movies, no youtube, no games.
:How the screen would look like if I start xorg on Radeon HD 6410D?
:Or on intel 2000? Do all people having modern hardware use it
:in console mode only?
:Best regards all
:
:  Zoran
:

I have Intel 4000 here, and I am unaccelerated, but do have native
resolution X, and lots of xterms and Firefox works as expected.

2000 should be totally fine, and accelerated if I remember correctly.

-- 
All I ask of life is a constant and exaggerated sense of my own
importance.



Re: integrated graphics

2013-01-12 Thread Zoran Kolic
> The core i3-3225 is ivy bridge based, which means the graphics only works 
> under \
> -current and no DRM acceleration until the driver support improves.

Thanks for the answer.
I must be wrong defining what I want. I would like to be able
to do "startx" and have 1280x1024, with browser and few shells.
Nothing more. If this is possible with some sandy bridge, even
better. Or some amd apu, further better. The most sophisticated
task would be reading pdf file in xpdf or looking at some pics
with feh. No movies, no youtube, no games.
How the screen would look like if I start xorg on Radeon HD 6410D?
Or on intel 2000? Do all people having modern hardware use it
in console mode only?
Best regards all

  Zoran



Re: integrated graphics

2013-01-11 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Zoran Kolic [zko...@sbb.rs] wrote:
> 
> Yeah, I like amd better. On desktop it is 8120 bulldozer. And I
> like it.
> 
> I might bother gentle readers, but have no clue what to buy and
> stay alive. I need exact processor name. So, if someone has amd
> or intel, integrated, wirking on amd64 5.2, please say the name
> of it and I will get the same one.
> Best regards
> 

The core i3-3225 is ivy bridge based, which means the graphics only works under 
-current and no DRM acceleration until the driver support improves. But, it is 
a very fast chip, and very low power. No graphics card to heat up, and when KMS 
support works, it will be quite fast (if you care about DRM). I don't think the 
newer radeon stuff is DRM accelerated either, so I'd go with the fast, low 
power shit myself...



Re: integrated graphics

2013-01-11 Thread Zoran Kolic
> Sadly right now Intel is going to be the best if you are going to use 
> the integrated graphics. Intel graphics tend to be better supported than 
> AMD (ATI).

I already have freebsd desktop and laptop. I want to get small
box, to put it in a corner, left in my room and play with it.
The only small case available here is chieftec bt-02b-180.
There is not much space inside. So, integrated.
On the laptop I type this I have:
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2350M CPU @ 2.30GHz (2294.84-MHz K8-class CPU)
Graphics works with kms. Once it is up, I cannot go back to
console. No biggie for now.
What I want to ask is: what intel cpu in fact? I'm not familiar
with the topic. Would be perfect if I might go with g550 or si-
milar cheap one. i3-2120 is over 100 euros here. Add mobo and
you see how it goes.
>From earlier posts I was sure something like a4-3300 plus a55m
motherboard would suffice. Am I wrong?

> Now if you have no concern for the integrated GPU and plan on using a 
> GPU that is supported I always say AMD. More performance for the price 
> and to me seems more stable under multithreaded load.

Yeah, I like amd better. On desktop it is 8120 bulldozer. And I
like it.

I might bother gentle readers, but have no clue what to buy and
stay alive. I need exact processor name. So, if someone has amd
or intel, integrated, wirking on amd64 5.2, please say the name
of it and I will get the same one.
Best regards

Zoran



Re: integrated graphics

2013-01-11 Thread Jason Barbier

On 1/10/2013 7:15 AM, Zoran Kolic wrote:

I found it too hard to find proper laptop for sane sum
of green papers, to run openbsd amd64.
In a haze of quest, I set my eyes on two lovely comp
cases:
chieftec bt-02b-180
silverstone sg05
Digested question would be: what integrated cpu works
on 5.2 amd64? Better to go after intel or amd? There
are posts of both sandybridge and amd fusion with gra-
phics working. I will get the lower end of one this
list recommends as a choice. If amd, probably fm1
socket, asus with realtek 8111 e/f ethernet.
Simple: what cpu?

  Zoran



Sadly right now Intel is going to be the best if you are going to use 
the integrated graphics. Intel graphics tend to be better supported than 
AMD (ATI). That may change here in the next few generations as AMD 
abandons UMS for KMS but if you want to make sure you'll get your full 
resolution Intel.


Now if you have no concern for the integrated GPU and plan on using a 
GPU that is supported I always say AMD. More performance for the price 
and to me seems more stable under multithreaded load.


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Jason Barbier