Re: Updating ports from CVS question
On 2014-11-07, Steve Williams st...@williamsitconsulting.com wrote: Having the ports.tar.gz that corresponds to the snapshot you install is nice because 2 months down the road you can compile/install something that will work on your system even when there is no package available that will work on your system. If you try to cvs up your ports to -current 2 months after installing a snapshot, odds are that something won't compile. OpenBSD works FANTASTIC as long as you keep things consistent. Follow base, -current, or snapshots. Don't try to mix and match and you should have smooth sailing. You can always cvs up -D 2014/10/01 or similar ... I don't think I ever used ports.tar.gz. But then, if I'm running -current and packages don't install, I usually take that as a cue to spend 10 minutes or so updating the system and packages ;)
Updating ports from CVS question
Hello All, # uname -a OpenBSD jackknife.my.domain 5.6 GENERIC.MP#0 i386 This system should be -current as of last night. I'm trying to build ports: # cd /usr # cvs -qd anon...@anoncvs.usa.openbsd.org:/cvs get -rOPENBSD_`uname -r | sed 's/\./_/'` -P ports Problem is that I got impatient and thought ports were hanging somewhere around the x11 stuff so I stupidly ^C Now after rebooting the machine several times, I cannot connect back to anoncvs.usa.openbsd.org and the other mirrors don't do much. Meaning I can connect but no other message indicates ports are being downloaded. For awhile the error message was that my IP address has a connection already but now it looks like the connection is dropped altogether as there's no message. Although, I can open a telnet connection to the cvs port: telnet anoncvs.usa.openbsd.org 2401 Trying 149.20.54.217... Connected to anoncvs.usa.openbsd.org. Escape character is '^]'. cvs [pserver aborted]: bad auth protocol start: Connection closed by foreign host. Any recommendations on what to do? -- inum: 883510009027723 sip: jungleboo...@sip2sip.info xmpp: jungle-boo...@jit.si
Re: Updating ports from CVS question
Hi, It is 1000 times faster (or some value... but wayyy faster) to just ftp the ports.tar.gz file over when compared to using CVS. Just saying... Cheers, Steve Williams On 11/7/2014 8:47 AM, Jungle Boogie wrote: Hello All, # uname -a OpenBSD jackknife.my.domain 5.6 GENERIC.MP#0 i386 This system should be -current as of last night. I'm trying to build ports: # cd /usr # cvs -qd anon...@anoncvs.usa.openbsd.org:/cvs get -rOPENBSD_`uname -r | sed 's/\./_/'` -P ports Problem is that I got impatient and thought ports were hanging somewhere around the x11 stuff so I stupidly ^C Now after rebooting the machine several times, I cannot connect back to anoncvs.usa.openbsd.org and the other mirrors don't do much. Meaning I can connect but no other message indicates ports are being downloaded. For awhile the error message was that my IP address has a connection already but now it looks like the connection is dropped altogether as there's no message. Although, I can open a telnet connection to the cvs port: telnet anoncvs.usa.openbsd.org 2401 Trying 149.20.54.217... Connected to anoncvs.usa.openbsd.org. Escape character is '^]'. cvs [pserver aborted]: bad auth protocol start: Connection closed by foreign host. Any recommendations on what to do?
Re: Updating ports from CVS question
Dear Steve, From: Steve Williams st...@williamsitconsulting.com Sent: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 09:11:51 -0700 To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: Updating ports from CVS question Hi, It is 1000 times faster (or some value... but wayyy faster) to just ftp the ports.tar.gz file over when compared to using CVS. Great idea! How do you update your ports, then? Just download a new ports.tar.gz file or: # cd /usr/ports # cvs -d anon...@anoncvs.usa.openbsd.org:/cvs -q up -rOPENBSD_`uname -r | sed 's/\./_/'` -Pd Just saying... Cheers, Steve Williams -- inum: 883510009027723 sip: jungleboo...@sip2sip.info xmpp: jungle-boo...@jit.si
Re: Updating ports from CVS question
Jungle Boogie wrote on Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 08:20:36AM -0800: Great idea! How do you update your ports, then? Just download a new ports.tar.gz file If you are running -stable, that doesn't help. The file ports.tar.gz doesn't get updated for -stable after release. or: # cd /usr/ports # cvs -d anon...@anoncvs.usa.openbsd.org:/cvs -q up -rOPENBSD_`uname -r | sed 's/\./_/'` -Pd Yes, you start from ports.tar.gz, and then, you update that tree with cvs(1) as needed. I don't like your uname(1) hackery, though. It's unsafe, giving you a false sense of security. For example, i'm running -current, but your uname(1) says, on my -current machine: $ uname -r | sed 's/\./_/' 5_6 $ uname -a OpenBSD isnote.usta.de 5.6 GENERIC.MP#5 i386 To update my ports tree, i have to do: $ cd /usr/ports cvs -d ... up -dP without any -r argument, but your uname(1) would give me a bogus -r argument, so in some situations, it does the wrong thing. I'd recommend that you just supply the correct -r by hand if needed. KISS! Yours, Ingo
Re: Updating ports from CVS question
On 2014-11-07, Jungle Boogie jungleboog...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, # uname -a OpenBSD jackknife.my.domain 5.6 GENERIC.MP#0 i386 This system should be -current as of last night. I'm trying to build ports: # cd /usr # cvs -qd anon...@anoncvs.usa.openbsd.org:/cvs get -rOPENBSD_`uname -r | sed 's/\./_/'` -P ports Problem is that I got impatient and thought ports were hanging somewhere around the x11 stuff so I stupidly ^C Now after rebooting the machine several times, I cannot connect back to anoncvs.usa.openbsd.org and the other mirrors don't do much. Meaning I can connect but no other message indicates ports are being downloaded. If you have already fetched most of the tree, you will have to wait a while before you start seeing any additional output from cvs. If you are getting impatient, you can watch it change directory as it does stuff: pkg_add gnuwatch; gnuwatch --interval=0.5 ps -Ocwd | grep [c]vs
Re: Updating ports from CVS question
Dear Ingo, Misc From: Ingo Schwarze schwa...@usta.de Sent: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 19:18:08 +0100 To: Jungle Boogie Cc: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: Updating ports from CVS question Jungle Boogie wrote on Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 08:20:36AM -0800: Great idea! How do you update your ports, then? Just download a new ports.tar.gz file If you are running -stable, that doesn't help. The file ports.tar.gz doesn't get updated for -stable after release. or: # cd /usr/ports # cvs -d anon...@anoncvs.usa.openbsd.org:/cvs -q up -rOPENBSD_`uname -r | sed 's/\./_/'` -Pd Yes, you start from ports.tar.gz, and then, you update that tree with cvs(1) as needed. I don't like your uname(1) hackery, though. It's unsafe, giving you a false sense of security. For example, i'm running -current, but your uname(1) says, on my -current machine: $ uname -r | sed 's/\./_/' 5_6 $ uname -a OpenBSD isnote.usta.de 5.6 GENERIC.MP#5 i386 I followed directions here: http://www.bsdnow.tv/tutorials/stable-current-obsd I did skip one reboot, though. Also, I went from 5.6 -release to -current and now looking at the directions, following a snapshot is recommended. I would expect my uname to update, though. To update my ports tree, i have to do: $ cd /usr/ports cvs -d ... up -dP without any -r argument, but your uname(1) would give me a bogus -r argument, so in some situations, it does the wrong thing. I'd recommend that you just supply the correct -r by hand if needed. I think I'll rebuild the machine based on a snapshot THEN update to -current! KISS! Yours, Ingo -- inum: 883510009027723 sip: jungleboo...@sip2sip.info xmpp: jungle-boo...@jit.si
Re: Updating ports from CVS question
On 11/7/2014 1:37 PM, Jungle Boogie wrote: Dear Ingo, Misc From: Ingo Schwarze schwa...@usta.de Sent: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 19:18:08 +0100 To: Jungle Boogie Cc: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: Updating ports from CVS question Jungle Boogie wrote on Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 08:20:36AM -0800: Great idea! How do you update your ports, then? Just download a new ports.tar.gz file If you are running -stable, that doesn't help. The file ports.tar.gz doesn't get updated for -stable after release. or: # cd /usr/ports # cvs -d anon...@anoncvs.usa.openbsd.org:/cvs -q up -rOPENBSD_`uname -r | sed 's/\./_/'` -Pd Yes, you start from ports.tar.gz, and then, you update that tree with cvs(1) as needed. I don't like your uname(1) hackery, though. It's unsafe, giving you a false sense of security. For example, i'm running -current, but your uname(1) says, on my -current machine: $ uname -r | sed 's/\./_/' 5_6 $ uname -a OpenBSD isnote.usta.de 5.6 GENERIC.MP#5 i386 I followed directions here: http://www.bsdnow.tv/tutorials/stable-current-obsd I did skip one reboot, though. Also, I went from 5.6 -release to -current and now looking at the directions, following a snapshot is recommended. I would expect my uname to update, though. To update my ports tree, i have to do: $ cd /usr/ports cvs -d ... up -dP without any -r argument, but your uname(1) would give me a bogus -r argument, so in some situations, it does the wrong thing. I'd recommend that you just supply the correct -r by hand if needed. I think I'll rebuild the machine based on a snapshot THEN update to -current! KISS! Yours, Ingo Hi, It has been stated multiple times on this list that snapshots do not necessarily equate to -current. I think it's generally in reference to the base system and not ports, but it is something to be aware of. From: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html Third, snapshots often contain experimental code that isn't yet committed to the tree. It has been my experience that if you want to follow snapshots, then it is best to download the ports.tar.gz at the time that you install the snapshot. This has the greatest chance of success (though not guaranteed), as the cvs and the snapshot can be out of date. For example, a snapshot may be complied on Monday, you download it on Thursday, and in the meantime, someone has updated a port in CVS. It's only bitten me a couple of times in the last 10 years, but when it does, it really sucks. What you think should be a 5 minute operation turns into a system upgrade! lol Using ports and snapshots (rather than packages) can be quite resource intensive. For giggles,yesterday I compiled a few ports that I normally use packages for (I wanted to test my VM, as well as see what it took to compile mariadb). To compile, the dependencies for 2 of the packages I usually install pulled (ftp/compile) around 100 packages. I ended up with 5 versions of autoconf 2 versions of automake and TONS of things I would not normally install... Having the ports.tar.gz that corresponds to the snapshot you install is nice because 2 months down the road you can compile/install something that will work on your system even when there is no package available that will work on your system. If you try to cvs up your ports to -current 2 months after installing a snapshot, odds are that something won't compile. OpenBSD works FANTASTIC as long as you keep things consistent. Follow base, -current, or snapshots. Don't try to mix and match and you should have smooth sailing. That's just been my personal experience. Other people way more authoritative may have much wiser advice. Cheers, Steve Williams
