Re: solar power / openbsd handheld

2007-05-24 Thread Thoren McDole

We have a need for a low power OpenBSD device or handheld that can connect
to a small SCADA device (serial or USB) to collect some temperature and
voltage data, plus control one light switch, on a remote solar powered
wifi repeater tower.

Any suggestions on the lowest powered OpenBSD runnable box we can expect
to find for such a job, one that we can connect to the repeater by
ethernet, or even wireless?

Austin


it happens i just got a Soekris 4501 3rd hand, set it on the coffee table, 
and plugged it into a 'Kill A Watt[0]' recently. the KAW said i had the 
Soekris plugged in for 45 hours and 43 min. during that time i compiled a 
gopher server (so?!), regenerated some SSH keys, ran MD5 -t a few times, 
and just generally messed around and configured it over SSH (while 
concurrently running a serial console). the KAW read 2 watts power draw 
during normal (mostly idle) use, and peaked at 5 watts when i ran md5 -t. 
over the 45h43m period the KAW read 0.12kWh drawn. if my math is correct, 
120Wh/(45h+(43m/60(m/h))), this suggests it drew ~2.6 watts on average 
over the entire ~45.72 hour period of what i would call normal usage (and 
all while gopher serving, thankyouverymuch :p ).



[0] http://www.p3international.com/products/special/P4400/P4400-CE.html 
[1] i should probably note the power supply used is some 'CUI Stack 
DPD120080-P5' wall wart thing, i have no idea if that's what they normally 
ship with or not. i would hazard to guess the efficiency of the thing is 
less than stellar.


OpenBSD 4.1-current (GENERIC) #161: Tue May 15 12:32:03 MDT 2007
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: AMD Am5x86 W/B 133/160 (AuthenticAMD 486-class)
cpu0: FPU
real mem  = 66678784 (65116K)
avail mem = 52084736 (50864K)
using 844 buffers containing 3457024 bytes (3376K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 20/70/26, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xf7840
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.0 @ 0xf/0x1
pcibios0: pcibios_get_intr_routing - function not supported
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing information unavailable.
pcibios0: PCI bus #0 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc8000/0x9000
cpu0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
elansc0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 AMD ElanSC520 PCI rev 0x00: product 0 
stepping 0.1, CPU clock 133MHz, reset 40SCP

gpio0 at elansc0: 32 pins
sis0 at pci0 dev 18 function 0 NS DP83815 10/100 rev 0x00, DP83815D: irq 
10, address 00:00:24:c0:xx:xx

nsphyter0 at sis0 phy 0: DP83815 10/100 PHY, rev. 1
sis1 at pci0 dev 19 function 0 NS DP83815 10/100 rev 0x00, DP83815D: irq 
11, address 00:00:24:c0:xx:xx

nsphyter1 at sis1 phy 0: DP83815 10/100 PHY, rev. 1
sis2 at pci0 dev 20 function 0 NS DP83815 10/100 rev 0x00, DP83815D: irq 
5, address 00:00:24:c0:xx:xx

nsphyter2 at sis2 phy 0: DP83815 10/100 PHY, rev. 1
isa0 at mainbus0
isadma0 at isa0
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard
wdc0 at isa0 port 0x1f0/8 irq 14
wd0 at wdc0 channel 0 drive 0: ELITE PRO CF CARD 2GB
wd0: 1-sector PIO, LBA, 1983MB, 4061232 sectors
wd0(wdc0:0:0): using BIOS timings
pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker
spkr0 at pcppi0
npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: reported by CPUID; using exception 16
pccom0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
pccom0: console
pccom1 at isa0 port 0x2f8/8 irq 3: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
biomask f3c5 netmask ffe5 ttymask ffe7
pctr: no performance counters in CPU
dkcsum: wd0 matches BIOS drive 0x80
root on wd0a swap on wd0b dump on wd0b
 ^--there really is no wd0b



Re: solar power / openbsd handheld

2007-05-23 Thread Mathieu Sauve-Frankel
On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 01:32:45AM +0200, Siegbert Marschall wrote:
 Sharp Zaurus with Display off and maybe Midrodrive replaced with a CF
 should be very low power.

uh... you're joking right ? 

aside from the fact that zaurii are really hard to find in north america 
and the fact that sharp has discontinued the zaurus, zaurii are not
exactly what I would call reliable hardware, especially not in an
outdoor deployment scenario. 

-- 
Mathieu Sauve-Frankel



solar power / openbsd handheld

2007-05-22 Thread Austin Hook
We have a need for a low power OpenBSD device or handheld that can connect
to a small SCADA device (serial or USB) to collect some temperature and
voltage data, plus control one light switch, on a remote solar powered
wifi repeater tower.

Any suggestions on the lowest powered OpenBSD runnable box we can expect
to find for such a job, one that we can connect to the repeater by
ethernet, or even wireless?

Austin



Re: solar power / openbsd handheld

2007-05-22 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/05/22 15:54, Austin Hook wrote:
 We have a need for a low power OpenBSD device or handheld that can connect
 to a small SCADA device (serial or USB) to collect some temperature and
 voltage data, plus control one light switch, on a remote solar powered
 wifi repeater tower.

Soekris 4501 or 4801 would be ideal, they use around 5W and have a fairly
flexible DC-DC converter onboard. GPIO lines are supported by gpioctl(8)
and easy to control, even from a shell script or cronjob. Have a look at
owsbm(4) too.



Re: solar power / openbsd handheld

2007-05-22 Thread Siegbert Marschall
Hi,

 We have a need for a low power OpenBSD device or handheld that can connect
 to a small SCADA device (serial or USB) to collect some temperature and
 voltage data, plus control one light switch, on a remote solar powered
 wifi repeater tower.

 Any suggestions on the lowest powered OpenBSD runnable box we can expect
 to find for such a job, one that we can connect to the repeater by
 ethernet, or even wireless?

Sharp Zaurus with Display off and maybe Midrodrive replaced with a CF
should be very low power.

-sm



Re: solar power / openbsd handheld

2007-05-22 Thread Jason George
 We have a need for a low power OpenBSD device or handheld that can connect
 to a small SCADA device (serial or USB) to collect some temperature and
 voltage data, plus control one light switch, on a remote solar powered
 wifi repeater tower.

Soekris 4501 or 4801 would be ideal, they use around 5W and have a fairly
flexible DC-DC converter onboard. GPIO lines are supported by gpioctl(8)
and easy to control, even from a shell script or cronjob. Have a look at
owsbm(4) too.

The Soekris is the fastest and easiest (and likely also the cheapest) device 
to use.

You may have to factor in a different weatherproof enclosure and possibly a 
temperature-controlled resistive heating element/pad, depending on the 
installation location and method.

The archives of the Soekris mailing lists has a number of references to 
similar installations.



Re: solar power / openbsd handheld

2007-05-22 Thread Timo Schoeler
Thus Austin Hook [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake on Tue, 22 May 2007
15:54:32 -0700 (MST):

 We have a need for a low power OpenBSD device or handheld that can
 connect to a small SCADA device (serial or USB) to collect some
 temperature and voltage data, plus control one light switch, on a
 remote solar powered wifi repeater tower.
 
 Any suggestions on the lowest powered OpenBSD runnable box we can
 expect to find for such a job, one that we can connect to the
 repeater by ethernet, or even wireless?
 
 Austin

Hi,

have a look at

http://pcengines.ch/alix.htm

It's predecessor, WRAP, works still very very well for me as OpenBSD
router (for years now); as alix is the next thing to come, I guess the
superb outdoor enclosures will be 'ported' for it ;)

http://pcengines.ch/case2c1.htm

HTH,

Timo

btw: Mine runs as a way-below 10 Watts SMTP, IMAP, DNS, DHCP server
using a MicroDrive ;)

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