[mk2-16v] Some more interesting reading, CIS-E Manual pdf

[Steven Arguello]

http://www.cpp.edu/~bvnorum/cars/WSP-521-124-00.pdf

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Re: [mk2-16v] Ethanol Free Gasoline?

[Les Noriel]

We won't ever see that here on the left coast. I ruined my snow blower by
not cleaning out the tank over the summer and  left crappy Kalifornia gas
in the tank. now have to rebuild the carburetor ( something I've not done
since high school)

Hopefully I'll find time to work on the project GTi this winter.

Les

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Re: [mk2-16v] Ethanol Free Gasoline?

['Matthew Yip' via MK2-16v]

Parts of Northern Virginia only sell 10% ethanol blend - before I found a 
station (actually 2 near my house in BFE Virginia), I went thru 1 lawnmower 
carb, 1 16v GTi transfer pump, 1 lawntractor carb and 1 Land Rover carb.  Now 
that it's winter, the stations near the D of C are switching to their 
oxygenated winter blend fuel that makes the ethanol-blend look GOOD... 


 On Thursday, November 5, 2015 5:45 PM, Les Noriel  
wrote:
   

 We won't ever see that here on the left coast. I ruined my snow blower by not 
cleaning out the tank over the summer and  left crappy Kalifornia gas in the 
tank. now have to rebuild the carburetor ( something I've not done since high 
school)Hopefully I'll find time to work on the project GTi this winter. Les-- 
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Re: [mk2-16v] Ethanol Free Gasoline?

[Steven Arguello]

I blame the ethanol for all my corrosion-in-the-fuel-dizzy issues. A few years 
back, water freezing in the fuel lines was a problem out here in the east. 

On Nov 5, 2015, at 5:32 PM, Larry Velez  wrote:

What's the deal with this new ethanol free gasoline I am seeing at the local 
wawa gas station?

Anyone using this on their mk2?  Would our cars like drinking this stuff much 
better and help prevent the varnish that happens these days on modern gasoline 
which our cars don't like at all..

Larry
91 GTI 16V
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Re: [mk2-16v] Ethanol Free Gasoline?

['Matthew Yip' via MK2-16v]

Ethanol-free gasoline is better all around because it's 100% gasoline instead 
of a hydro-phillic gasoline additive that causes deterioration of older rubber 
bits in the fuel system.  The ethanol blends are so bad that small gasoline 
engine manufacturers (think your lawnmower or tractor) are instructing owners 
to not let the fuel sit for more than 7 days to avoid separation of ethanol in 
the gasoline.  I run 100% gasoline in my Land Rover, not because of it's high 
compression ratio (although I do have the hi-po motor with 8.5:1 compression) 
but rather because the ethanol blend is brutal on the carb and fuel pump.
If you have the option of using 100% gasoline AND you don't drive the car that 
often, by all means, use 100% gasoline.  Regardless of the fuel, of you don't 
use the car that often, add Sta-Bil as well to maintain a prayer of having 
usable gasoline after 30 days.   


 On Thursday, November 5, 2015 5:32 PM, Larry Velez  wrote:
   

  What's the deal with this new ethanol free gasoline I am seeing at the local 
wawa gas station?
Anyone using this on their mk2?  Would our cars like drinking this stuff much 
better and help prevent the varnish that happens these days on modern gasoline 
which our cars don't like at all..
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Re: [mk2-16v] Ethanol Free Gasoline?

[Jack Simon]

Higher octane rating, none of the ethanol related crap problems out there.  
Lotsa people here in South Central PA use it for their small engine devices 
(mowers, chain saws, etc.) as well as their older cars with no problems.  It 
may require a bit of fine tuning to get the best out of it  though.  Google 
it...Jack

On 5 Nov 2015, at 17:32, Larry Velez wrote:

What's the deal with this new ethanol free gasoline I am seeing at the local 
wawa gas station?

Anyone using this on their mk2?  Would our cars like drinking this stuff much 
better and help prevent the varnish that happens these days on modern gasoline 
which our cars don't like at all..


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Re: [mk2-16v] Some more interesting reading, CIS-E Manual pdf

[Steven Arguello]

I hope so, Larry. I'm in the same boat, it's helped some but I still have some 
serious issues. Mostly from the car having sat in my driveway for too long. 
Nothing comes out of one fuel dizzy (I have 2 sets of everything) and the other 
one never stops, even with the sensor plate at rest. From what I read in the 
manual, with the plate at rest the injector shouldn't even drip. Mine hum 
nicely as soon as I turn on the fuel pump. I even pulled the fuel dizzy off the 
airbox to make sure the plate isn't pressing on the plunger.
I suppose that the plunger or the walls of its housing can wear. Is this the 
most likely reason the injectors are always on?

I got a loaner fuel pressure tester from autozone and it didn't have the right 
fittings. I faked it with hose clamps etc and was able to get one reading of 
75psi before everything got soaked in gas.

As always any help is appreciated.
Steve


On Nov 5, 2015, at 3:22 PM, Larry Velez wrote:

> Awesome,  this could be very useful as I deal with my fuel system issues.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -Larry
> 
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> http://www.cpp.edu/~bvnorum/cars/WSP-521-124-00.pdf
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RE: [mk2-16v] Troubleshooting CIS-E Video Party

[Larry Velez]

Steve,

How about I setup a webinar one day coming soon and you and I can setup cameras 
and others can join in and watch as we troubleshoot our fuel issues.  Anyone 
could join via phone or computer and participate.   We can learn from the 
experts on this list and I can record the session for posterity to help people 
in the future with some hands on visuals that might be more useful than staring 
at the Bentley.

A lot of people are giving up on CIS completely and putting in aftermarket 
electronic fuel injection but I am not there yet - I kind of feel I should 
learn how to fix it as stock before mucking with aftermarket systems.

So far I broke the metal lines to the main fuel pump trying to remove it and am 
cleaning up a replacement pump to install that and see if that helps any.  I 
now have a nagging feeling the main fuel pump was fine but I was getting no 
fuel at all at the fuel distributor so I blamed the main fuel pump.

Let me know what you think and I can easily set it up with GoToMeeting and 
whoever wants to join can join the party via phone, video or chat.

-Larry
91 GTI 16V


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From: mk2-16v@googlegroups.com [mailto:mk2-16v@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Steven Arguello
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 3:53 PM
To: mk2-16v@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [mk2-16v] Some more interesting reading, CIS-E Manual pdf

I hope so, Larry. I'm in the same boat, it's helped some but I still have some 
serious issues. Mostly from the car having sat in my driveway for too long. 
Nothing comes out of one fuel dizzy (I have 2 sets of everything) and the other 
one never stops, even with the sensor plate at rest. From what I read in the 
manual, with the plate at rest the injector shouldn't even drip. Mine hum 
nicely as soon as I turn on the fuel pump. I even pulled the fuel dizzy off the 
airbox to make sure the plate isn't pressing on the plunger.
I suppose that the plunger or the walls of its housing can wear. Is this the 
most likely reason the injectors are always on?

I got a loaner fuel pressure tester from autozone and it didn't have the right 
fittings. I faked it with hose clamps etc and was able to get one reading of 
75psi before everything got soaked in gas.

As always any help is appreciated.
Steve


On Nov 5, 2015, at 3:22 PM, Larry Velez wrote:

> Awesome,  this could be very useful as I deal with my fuel system issues.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -Larry
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mk2-16v@googlegroups.com [mailto:mk2-16v@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Steven Arguello
> Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 3:13 PM
> To: mk2-16v@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [mk2-16v] Some more interesting reading, CIS-E Manual pdf
> 
> http://www.cpp.edu/~bvnorum/cars/WSP-521-124-00.pdf
> 

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RE: [mk2-16v] Ethanol Free Gasoline?

[Larry Velez]

I also blame ethanol for all my fuel system headaches.  (also that I should not 
let the car sit for any amount of time)

When I get her up and running again only ethanol free gas..   I found a boat 
gas station with ethanol free gas nearby,  maybe they have something higher 
than 89 octane – I’ll have to call and ask.

-Larry

From: mk2-16v@googlegroups.com [mailto:mk2-16v@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Steven Arguello
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 6:55 PM
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Subject: Re: [mk2-16v] Ethanol Free Gasoline?

I blame the ethanol for all my corrosion-in-the-fuel-dizzy issues. A few years 
back, water freezing in the fuel lines was a problem out here in the east.

On Nov 5, 2015, at 5:32 PM, Larry Velez > 
wrote:
What's the deal with this new ethanol free gasoline I am seeing at the local 
wawa gas station?

Anyone using this on their mk2?  Would our cars like drinking this stuff much 
better and help prevent the varnish that happens these days on modern gasoline 
which our cars don't like at all..

Larry
91 GTI 16V
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[mk2-16v] Mk2 16V for Sale in Cleveland

[Larry Velez]

http://cleveland.craigslist.org/ctd/5302378334.html

-Larry
91 GTI 16V

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