[MMouse]: K-Tel

1999-07-16 Thread sputnik

hey i was thinking about this k-tel thing. Its interesting that modest mouse
will be on this K-tel label and K records too... I cant figure out how Up
fits in though. On this cd k-tel should adopt the K records shield and then
put "Tel" next to it. 

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[MMouse]: Re: xsunspotsx comments

1999-07-16 Thread WedrenStar

in re: the mouse, i must admit I too noticed how quickly the kids so 
reverently caught on.  I saw them about 6 months or so before long drive 
(might have been even earlier; at the time broke wasn't yet out, and I hadn't 
heard of the blue cadet 7", so i don't know if it was yet out) ... anyhow, 
they were opening for gas huffer at the redmond firehouse and were just 
constantly heckled throughout their entire set.  but it seemed just months 
after long drive was released (at a show opening for DNSS), there were quite 
a few people there to see the mouse, and i kept seeing a lot of the same 
faces at later shows. 
i was happy.
and i wish the mouse plenty of success.
i'm no indie eltist, but i have to admit, the notion of sharing space at a MM 
show with korn fans does make me queasy.
whatever.
that's all
star



[MMouse]: weegee

1999-07-16 Thread jes is dead

> the door to my dorm room last year. i love weegee.
> He was the Brassai of new 
> york...
> 

you know the picture of his of the guy sitting at the
table holding the bottle of beer? and sortof pointing,
if i remember right.. that's the coolest. just thought
i'd say.

jes

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[MMouse]: beer, pizza, mm, etc.

1999-07-16 Thread Angela Mitchell

>There is no one who carries, or has even heard of, yuengling here in 
>boston.
>Whenever I even mention the name people look at me like I'm crazy.

Most people at my school in DC have no clue.  But people who know the area 
get very excited when you tell them you're from pottsville.

They think
>the word is funny I guess. That and "wawa." They don't believe me when I 
>tell
>them it is the greatest convenience store in the world. ha.

Oh god.  I almost ran a kid over on my way into the parking lot 
yesterday...I went down the shore for the day, and I was on my way into wawa 
and this kid got in my way and wasnt paying attention.  So i honked the horn 
at him.  I scared the poor boy to death.  I'm feeling pretty bad about that. 
dammit.

>  And cheesesteaks...forget about it.  Call it silly pride, but ordering a
>steak and cheese grinder isnt the same as going to Jim's on south street or
>Pat's and ordering a "whiz wit'".

I haven't had a cheesesteak since i used to live closer to philly (years 
ago) but i do know that I LOVE lorenzo's pizza on south street.  mm.  
though the guy there is definitely the closest thing to any sort of 
seinfeld-type food nazi that i've ever encountered.  but the pizza is worth 
the pizza nazi experience.


ok, this DEFINITELY isnt mouse-related.  so um...um, lorenzo's is across the 
street from the pontiac grille, where i have seen modest mouse play several 
times.  there you go.  oh, and isaac once told me (after coming out of 
lorenzo's) that he went in, asked what kind of pizza they had, and the guy 
said, "we have cheese, plain, and regular" so isaac was all " i'll have  a 
regular and a cheese" or whatever and then realized and was like what the 
fuck.  ok, you're all really bored with this story now, but i swear it was a 
funny anecdote when isaac told it.  whatever. good night all.

love,
hezi


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[MMouse]: dumb people

1999-07-16 Thread Angela Mitchell

>>I bet he'd love the Backstreet Boys if they were in UP Records.

why do people say ridiculous things like, "i only like music that's indie" 
or whatever?  whoever said the thing about the backstreet boys couldn't be 
more right.  stop fighting about the epic thing!!!  the magic major label 
fairy isn't going to come and take away modest mouse's talent and 
originality from under their pillows while they're sleeping.  i'm pretty 
sure of it. they're the same band, for god's sake. if you only liked them 
cuz they were on an independent label, then you're pretty dumb.

that's all,
hezi


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[MMouse]: sheesh

1999-07-16 Thread KatPowah

About this "indie" thing:

I'm new on this list, and I'm wondering what all the recent bad blood is 
about.  I didn't save his e-mail, but from what I remember reading, Russ (it 
was Russ, wasn't it?) was just sharing his opinion with the rest of us.  I 
don't understand why everyone's jumping all over him about it.  Can't we lay 
off the sarcasm, name-calling (indier-than-thou?  Please.  It's so indie, 
whatever that means, to not be indie nowadays... but not to excess, of 
course.) and bad vibes for a while, and just discuss things civilly?  

We're all entitled to our own opinions, and to express them freely.  What 
sucks is when people start moving away from ideas and into personal 
territory.  Into bullying, pettiness, and incoherent rambling.  So before 
this situation gets out of hand, let's all lighten up and keep talking to, 
not at, each other.

Thank you.

Stepping off the soapbox,

Sylvia



[MMouse]: indie schmindie

1999-07-16 Thread Matt Evanosky

is being on up records really indie
up records = subpop's little sister= major label distro-sire records?
not my fight , but just wondering where everyone draws the line


ps david at suicide squeeze is a prince among mere mortals in the recording
industry...buy anything and everything he offers from his label-suicide
squeeze

dont know why , just had to share





[MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n417

1999-07-16 Thread LWirbel

In a message dated 7/16/99 6:27:59 PM Mountain Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< >just got off the phone with colin.  he said yes, they ran out, sadly 
before 
 >they got to my order.  and that there'd be more in in 2 weeks or so.  The 
 >problem is, because they have so many requests for it, they cant keep the 
 >orders that werent filled, and when they do get in stock, new orders are 
 >accepted.  I dont know about this.  they should just send them to people in 
 >the order they get them in my opinion.  any one agree with me on that and 
 >want to send mass emails to k?
 > >>

I sent Colin a brief and polite e-mail telling him it was very unprofessional 
and highly unusual in on-line recording co. deals to have someone re-order a 
CC order.  Don't think we need to be pissants, but goddamnit, this is very 
low-class.

Loring Wirbel
Monument, Colo.
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[MMouse]: K

1999-07-16 Thread Dustin Summers

i just got an email from K saying that even though i had a credit card order
vie their web site, i too will have to try to order it again when they
restock. Plus, the price just went up to $14

dustin



Re: [MMouse]: a little late but oh well...

1999-07-16 Thread Slackathon


In a message dated 7/16/99 10:21:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
>flyer, a sonic youth flyer, a mirror, lucille ball, two kids in a 3-d movie 
>theater kisasing, elvis shaking hands with richard nixon, lots of other stuff
> 
Is that the weegee photograph? where the chick is barefoot?  i had that on 
the door to my dorm room last year. i love weegee. He was the Brassai of new 
york...

sorry. non sequitor

Karina



[MMouse]: MCA's caddy

1999-07-16 Thread Edington, Mark

MCA from the beasties is auctioning off his 1973 Cadillac.. there's no way I
could afford it, but it's worth checking out just to see what a cool ride it
is..
http://auction.milarepa.org/

   Mark 



[MMouse]: k records

1999-07-16 Thread wm. a. richards

1. can somebody tell me how to fetch a-hold of k records, pretty please?

2. are there more modest mouse releases on k besides the new one?

3. are the people at k less cranky than the kids at up?


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[MMouse]: 'emo'

1999-07-16 Thread wm. a. richards

Interesting story--the first time I heard the word 'emo' was 2 years ago...i 
ran into this singer who I hadn't seen for a while.  we were talking about 
music and our bands and he goes, "We're EMO now!" Just a few years before 
this guy was calling his band "grunge".  I'm like, "what the fuck is emo, 
dude?" and he starts talking about drive like jehu and some other bands (who 
are all good bands, IMHO).
I had recently discovered modest mouse so I asked if he had heard them.  He 
said he had but he was not into them or something.


is modest mouse 'emo'?

  according to all of the 'emo' people i know, most of whom are in 'emo' 
bands, wear 'emo' clothes, and cry a lot, modest mouse is not 'emo.'  don't 
know why--perhaps it's cuz the mouse has a sense of humor.  these 'emo' 
folks, they like to yell and cry for the most part.  but the mouse, i get 
the impression that the mouse likes to yell and cry and laugh and drink.

however, most of the emo 'bois', as these 'emo' fellas i know call 
themselves, have phat-ass sideburns, like the kind mr. brock had (or still 
has? i dont know).  Maybe that's where the connection is.

Here in detroit the emo folks seem to have distanced themselves from the 
mouse--braid, promise ring, etc etc are all 'emo' and hip, but you hardly 
ever hear modest mouse on the 'emo' college radio shows. and modest mouse 
usually doesnt come up in 'emo'-conversation.

and that's all there is to know about 'emo' bois and gurls in detroit.  not 
that anyone wanted to know.



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[MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n416

1999-07-16 Thread baby spine

shit!  okay, i put in a credit card order over the website on wednesday...so 
does anyone know if that means i need to call to cancel the charge or 
something, and then re-order it later?  or would they contact me first, cos 
it asks for a phone # & email on the order form.  if they really are gonna 
make everyone reorder, that's ass.  i agree that they should just fill the 
orders as they got/get them.  hmmm...
xoxo nicole

>just got off the phone with colin.  he said yes, they ran out, sadly before 
>they got to my order.  and that there'd be more in in 2 weeks or so.  The 
>problem is, because they have so many requests for it, they cant keep the 
>orders that werent filled, and when they do get in stock, new orders are 
>accepted.  I dont know about this.  they should just send them to people in 
>the order they get them in my opinion.  any one agree with me on that and 
>want to send mass emails to k?
>
>


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[MMouse]: a little late but oh well...

1999-07-16 Thread EJZ12

 
>
> 
> NAME: Elizabeth, Betty, Liz, 16 year old Liz (even though im 17, the name 
will stick forever)
> 
> SEX: Female
> 
> HOME: Milford, CT. If this state is the richest in the country where's my 
part of it? Stereotypes are ridiculous for CT there are a handful of very 
wealthy people but also lots of working class families like my own. 
> 
> EYE COLOR:  dark brown
> 
> 
> HAIR COLOR: dark brown
> 
> 
> YOUR FAVORITE TV SHOWS?  Simpsons, Tom Green, That 70's Show, MST3K, Sifl 
and Olly when it was good, the State when it was on. Scooby Doo
> 
> FAVORITE MAGAZINE? Bizarre
> 
> FAVORITE SMELL:  vanilla cake mix
> 
> WORST FEELING IN THE WORLD: missing your chance with anything

> BEST FEELING IN THE WORLD:  knowing that someone genuinely cares for you

> FAVORITE THINGS TO DO ON THE WEEKENDS: i have to work on the weekends, but 
like to hang out with friends,write, smoke pot, forget about the "real world"
> 
 FAVORITE SOUNDTRACK:strangely enough its the Biodome soundtrack there's a 
lot of good 80's songs on it
> 
> WHAT IS THE FIRST THING YOU THINK OF WHEN YOU WAKE UP IN THE
> 
> MORNING? what do i have to do today, i can't wait until the day is over
> 
DO YOU GET MOTION SICKNESS ?no 
> 
> ROLLER COASTERS-DEADLY OR EXCITING? im scared of wooden ones because i 
almost fell out of one, metal ones are fun
> 
 PEN OR PENCIL?  Pen
> 
 HOW MANY RINGS BEFORE YOU ANSWER THE PHONE? 1
> 
 FUTURE SON'S NAME? I dont want kids. 
> 
> 
> FUTURE DAUGHTER'S NAME: i dont want kids but i want a pig named Greta
> 
> FAVORITE FOOD:  calzone, boca burgers, good mexican dip, fruit, vegetables, 
and candy
> 
> DO YOU GET ALONG WELL WITH YOUR PARENT(S): no
> 
> CROUTONS OR BACON BITS: bacon bits
> 
> 
> DO YOU LIKE TO DRIVE?  Yes, I love my Volvo, I just failed my driver's test 
though because i had to take it on a different car i wasnt used to. now i 
gotta wait two weeks
> 
> DO YOU SLEEP WITH STUFFED ANIMALS? no but i sleep with blankie
> 
> 
> WHAT TYPE OF CAR WAS YOUR FIRST CAR? : 1990 volvo 240 DL sedan baby, navy 
blue, i was lucky to find it
> 
> THUNDERSTORMS COOL OR SCARY? Cool
> 
IF YOU COULD MEET ONE PERSON, DEAD OR ALIVE, WHO WOULD IT BE? James Dean baby

 FAVORITE ALCOHOLIC : barney on the simpsons i guess
> 
WHAT IS YOUR ZODIAC SIGN? Pisces im psychic. 
> 
> 
> WHO IS YOUR FAVORITE POET? maya angelou, anne sexton, allen ginsberg
> 
 DO YOU EAT THE STEMS OF BROCCOLI? yeah 
> 
> 
> GUYS~IF A GIRL ASKED FOR THE SHIRT OFF YOUR BACK, WOULD YOU
> 
> GIVE IT?
> 
> GIRLS-WOULD YOU EVER ASK A GUY FOR HIS SHIRT? sure why not
> 
> 
> IF YOU COULD HAVE ANY JOB YOU WANTED, WHAT WOULD IT BE? master of the 
universe, filmmaker/rockstar
> 
> IF YOU COULD DYE YOUR HAIR ANY COLOR, WHAT WOULD 
> IT BE?  i have but i wouldn't mind having silver hair either

> 
>IF YOU COULD HAVE A TATTOO, WHAT AND WHERE WOULD IT BE? a simple popeye-like 
anchor on my arm, rainbow brite riding her horse on the bottom of my back 
with twink on the back of my neck dropping a stream of star sprinkles, a 
faery somwhere maybe
 
> 
> HAVE YOU EVER BEEN IN LOVE?   yeah, love sucks

> WHAT IS ON YOUR WALLS IN YOUR ROOM:  lots of black and white pictures, an 
autographed moby poster (dont ask) a yo la tengo show flyer, a braid show 
flyer, a sonic youth flyer, a mirror, lucille ball, two kids in a 3-d movie 
theater kisasing, elvis shaking hands with richard nixon, lots of other stuff
 
IS THE GLASS HALF EMPTY OR HALF FULL? half-empty
> 
> WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE SNAPPLE? Fire and rain
> 
FAVORITE MOVIE(S)? i shot andy warhol, pi,cube, happiness, old sci-fi 
b-movies, tim burton movies, brazil, mel brooks' movies,  
> 
> LEFTY OR RIGHTY? Lefty
> 
> WHAT'S UNDER YOUR BED?  the floor, my bed is a mattress on the floor i like 
being close to the ground
> 
> WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE NUMBER? 3, 666, 57, 88, 1,645,235,465
> 
 WHAT IS YOUR DREAM CAR?  mine
> 
> FAVORITE SPORT TO WATCH: none really, those weird competitions on espn are 
cool though, like when the pull fire trucks with their teeth
> 
 SAY ONE NICE THING ABOUT THE PERSON(S) WHO SENT THIS TO YOU: he's a cool 
kid, i met him at a modest mouse show and he gave me a really cool mix tape
> 
OUT OF THE PEOPLE YOU SENT THIS TO, WHO IS LEAST LIKELY TO RESPOND? i dont 
care
> 
> WHAT'S IN YOUR CD/TAPE PLAYER RIGHT NOW: velvet underground, pavement-wowee 
zowee, dead milkmen

 >WOULD YOU JUMP ON A BOMB FOR A FRIEND? i'll think about it when it actually 
happens, im good under pressure

ARE YOU FRIENDS WITH ANY OF YOUR EX'S? yeah

 WHAT ADVICE WOULD YOU GIVE TO A TEENAGER RIGHT NOW? organize!
> 
>READ THIS FORM AND WHEN YOUR DONE, ERASE WHAT THIS PERSON PUT
 AND TYPE IN YOUR OWN ANSWER! THEN SEND IT TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW,
> ESPECIALLY THE PERSON
> THAT SENT THIS TO YOU! THAT WAY THEY KNOW WHAT YOU SAID ABOU
> THEM!!
> 



[MMouse]: Trance Syndicate

1999-07-16 Thread Edington, Mark

Ok, so a friend of mine used to be on Trance Syndicate, but then apparently
Trance went under, and they were no longer on that label.. But then someone
told me that Trance was still around. (maybe got up again?) And I have heard
that they still have bands on their label with tour dates.. but their
website is not up.. anyone know anything about this?

   Mark 



[MMouse]: The Long Hard Road Out of Obscurity

1999-07-16 Thread Philip Smoker

"Mommy mommy I love my muppets,
I love my muppets to brush my teeth."
If you remember that jingle as well, I will start a support group.

>I mean, if anything, it's awe-inspiring to see a once-lesser-known >band 
>earn the capacity to have a substantial effect on a greater >population.

EXACTLY!  This person is right on.  Actually, their entire post was right 
on, but you knew that.  Didn't anyone else see Beck's small club tour in '96 
wiff da Mouse & Money Mark in tow?  I wasn't the only one buying their CD 
for the first time that night, I remember.

I think it would really be a burden to be a musician who is successful on 
any level.  As soon as you are able to sell enough records to go from 
full-time to part-time at the diner, you have Joe Elite telling you that 
you're selling out and not being true to yrself.  You just can't make all 
the people happy ever.  And that would probably frustrate me to the point of 
excess drinking whilest I was rocking.  And then when Mr. Scenester makes 
some wiseass snap from the middle of the room, I would haul my Les Paul copy 
into the audience and crown his cranium with its rusty machineheads.  I 
think if there were more altercations between band and audience, then people 
would maybe realize the error of their ways.  One could only hope.  Breaking 
down the fourth wall, kids.

Re: hockey
I think the greatest hockey highlight ever would be Jaromir Jagr's 100th 
point last season against the Flyers.  He broke down ice with one guy to 
beat.  The defenseman hauled him off his skates, but somehow Jags jabs the 
puck toward the net.  It deflects off of Hextall's chest and Jags bats it 
out of mid-air while sliding down ice on his stomach.  Goal.  I was there, 
and I about soiled my knickers seeing that beauteous moment.  Is it October 
yet?

And on a Modest Mouse note, is anyone taping the Euro shows?
I gots mad love to trade, believe dat.

PA people in the house, say Hell Yeah,
*phiL*


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Re: [MMouse]: re: re: re: (re:) epic saga (less MM content)

1999-07-16 Thread Mike Schmick

I agree totally.  And whatever benifits and/or money the mouse gets from
epic is wonderful for them and well deserved.  I like the fact that while I
am at work listening to Modest Mouse they are at work making more music for
me to listen toFULL TIME.  Not working a real job to make ends meet
tring to figure out when they will be able to record/tour agian.
- Original Message -
From: xsunspotx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 16, 1999 10:47 AM
Subject: [MMouse]: re: re: re: (re:) epic saga (less MM content)


> Okay, fine -- I'll bite..  Pardon my Scandinavian, I promise to kick
myself
> in the ass afterwards.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
> << When its not indie, it loses its gravity, loses the very stuff
>  that makes it worth my time to listen to.  >>
>
> No one knows about me.  People who do know me, come to know of me by word
of
> mouth only.  I spam no one.  I have no personal manager.  I am 100%
> underground - a pinnacle of indie-ness.  So weigh my blather, and listen
to
> me VERY carefully...
>
>
> << BULLFUCKINGSHIT  I listen to indie music because it lets me connect
> with the artist in a way that is IMPOSSIBLE when every single person knows
> every single line of every single song they've ever written. >>
>
> BACDAFUCUP  Which fraction of the faction is this concerning?  It's
all
> about entrance populations and vector science, I suppose.  Given extreme
> conditions as such, however, it's pretty much an infinite equation.  That
> is -- it's sorta like asking "Which came first, the egg or the egg?"
>
> And, in accepting this rationale, isn't it, in turn, being said that your
> realities and connections are essentially limited to external conditions?
I
> wouldn't be introducing anything less than trite to dismiss it as a
> capricious contention -- shallow, really.  Don't get me wrong, wading
pools
> serve their purpose and all... but given the argument's concern with
> assessing certain "virtues", I am assuming that integrity is an integral.
> Perhaps I am assuming way too much.
>
> In any event, it seems to me that just about every single person *I* know
is
> more than well aware of MM at this point, wouldn't you agree?  Let's
assume,
> for example, a typical MM show.  Regarding empirical reaction, an average
of
> 500 people a night are quite informed as to both the appropriate measure
and
> count for echoing "fakes!" during Trailer Trash.
>
> Of course, you may counter this with arguments on fractions and
populations
> and cross-sections and set theory.  To this I say: phooey!  At least
Malthus
> had SOME pragmatic benefits to offer us.  Are you a baby basher?  I'll bet
> you are.
>
>
> << Modest mouse is and always will be a thousand times better when that
> connection is a personal one.  Dont forget why they started going
> underground in the first place. >>
>
>
> Were MM ever underground?  That's news to me.  For an underground band,
> there sure seems to be an awful lot of hammy press photos floating around,
> not to slag 'em.
> Obviously someone wasn't around for the whole all-black, buckle adorning,
> Caesar haircut phase... yeesh.
>
> << There are a billion bands out there, all playing and saying basically
the
> same thing, what makes one different from the other is YOUR perception of
> them based on factors which are both superfluous to the music and not
> normally based on any type of reason. >>
>
> Thank you Casey Kasem.  How fashionably post-modern.  I'll try and keep
this
> in mind when going to the MM / Korn show.  Maybe I'll end up seeing Korn
in
> a whole new light.  After all, that Korn singer and Isaac have eerily
> similar stage moves, wouldn't you say?  "Let it breakthrough!"
>
>
> Anyhow (here's where I attempt to maintain some sort of list-topicality).
> If I remember correctly, the first MM show I saw was some while back.
They
> were opening for Lync and Hush Harbor (or Easton Bridge) at the Velvet
> Elvis.  For the next year or two following that, I recall seeing them
> perform on a number of occasions with next to nil attendance.  Then, at
some
> point after releasing "Long Drive", they were headlining the VE with
swarms
> of fanatic kids, all of whom knew every word to every song, jumping up and
> down in excitement over the fact their new favourite band was playing
their
> new favourite song.  Admittedly, it was rather amusing and peculiar.  But,
I
> don't remember feeling bitter at all.  In no way did I feel as if my
> "connection" with MM had been diminished or trivialised in any respect.
In
> fact, I remember feeling really happy for them, and the kids.  I mean, if
> anything, it's awe-inspiring to see a once-lesser-known band earn the
> capacity to have a substantial effect on a greater population.
>
> Well.. sorry to pollute your inbox.  It's late, and I'm currently
operating
> on stunted synapse.  Disregard anything I may have said.
>
> 111/1/100
> b nath : *
>
>
>
>



[MMouse]: indier-than-thou

1999-07-16 Thread Reptile

On Wed, 14 Jul 1999 16:48:29 -0400 (EDT), Rustoleum wrote:

Hey, Russ!

>hi. i think your reason for liking indie sucks. 

I think so too. That's too stupid.

>basically it sounds like youre wsaying "i dont care what it sounds like as
>long as its indie"

Yep.

>if lonesome crowded west were released on dgc youre pretty much saying you
>wouldnt like it and that is the most pathetic thing i ever heard. 

I bet he'd love the Backstreet Boys if they were in UP Records.

cheers from an "indier-than-thou" hater,
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[MMouse]: re: re: re: (re:) epic saga (less MM content)

1999-07-16 Thread xsunspotx

Okay, fine -- I'll bite..  Pardon my Scandinavian, I promise to kick myself
in the ass afterwards.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


<< When its not indie, it loses its gravity, loses the very stuff
 that makes it worth my time to listen to.  >>

No one knows about me.  People who do know me, come to know of me by word of
mouth only.  I spam no one.  I have no personal manager.  I am 100%
underground - a pinnacle of indie-ness.  So weigh my blather, and listen to
me VERY carefully...


<< BULLFUCKINGSHIT  I listen to indie music because it lets me connect
with the artist in a way that is IMPOSSIBLE when every single person knows
every single line of every single song they've ever written. >>

BACDAFUCUP  Which fraction of the faction is this concerning?  It's all
about entrance populations and vector science, I suppose.  Given extreme
conditions as such, however, it's pretty much an infinite equation.  That
is -- it's sorta like asking "Which came first, the egg or the egg?"

And, in accepting this rationale, isn't it, in turn, being said that your
realities and connections are essentially limited to external conditions?  I
wouldn't be introducing anything less than trite to dismiss it as a
capricious contention -- shallow, really.  Don't get me wrong, wading pools
serve their purpose and all... but given the argument's concern with
assessing certain "virtues", I am assuming that integrity is an integral.
Perhaps I am assuming way too much.

In any event, it seems to me that just about every single person *I* know is
more than well aware of MM at this point, wouldn't you agree?  Let's assume,
for example, a typical MM show.  Regarding empirical reaction, an average of
500 people a night are quite informed as to both the appropriate measure and
count for echoing "fakes!" during Trailer Trash.

Of course, you may counter this with arguments on fractions and populations
and cross-sections and set theory.  To this I say: phooey!  At least Malthus
had SOME pragmatic benefits to offer us.  Are you a baby basher?  I'll bet
you are.


<< Modest mouse is and always will be a thousand times better when that
connection is a personal one.  Dont forget why they started going
underground in the first place. >>


Were MM ever underground?  That's news to me.  For an underground band,
there sure seems to be an awful lot of hammy press photos floating around,
not to slag 'em.
Obviously someone wasn't around for the whole all-black, buckle adorning,
Caesar haircut phase... yeesh.

<< There are a billion bands out there, all playing and saying basically the
same thing, what makes one different from the other is YOUR perception of
them based on factors which are both superfluous to the music and not
normally based on any type of reason. >>

Thank you Casey Kasem.  How fashionably post-modern.  I'll try and keep this
in mind when going to the MM / Korn show.  Maybe I'll end up seeing Korn in
a whole new light.  After all, that Korn singer and Isaac have eerily
similar stage moves, wouldn't you say?  "Let it breakthrough!"


Anyhow (here's where I attempt to maintain some sort of list-topicality).
If I remember correctly, the first MM show I saw was some while back.  They
were opening for Lync and Hush Harbor (or Easton Bridge) at the Velvet
Elvis.  For the next year or two following that, I recall seeing them
perform on a number of occasions with next to nil attendance.  Then, at some
point after releasing "Long Drive", they were headlining the VE with swarms
of fanatic kids, all of whom knew every word to every song, jumping up and
down in excitement over the fact their new favourite band was playing their
new favourite song.  Admittedly, it was rather amusing and peculiar.  But, I
don't remember feeling bitter at all.  In no way did I feel as if my
"connection" with MM had been diminished or trivialised in any respect.  In
fact, I remember feeling really happy for them, and the kids.  I mean, if
anything, it's awe-inspiring to see a once-lesser-known band earn the
capacity to have a substantial effect on a greater population.

Well.. sorry to pollute your inbox.  It's late, and I'm currently operating
on stunted synapse.  Disregard anything I may have said.

111/1/100
b nath : *





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1999-07-16 Thread Monktorch

NAME: chase
SEX: Male
HOME: Balboa, California.  
YOUR FAVORITE TV SHOWS?  the simpsons!
FAVORITE MAGAZINE? maxim,  the playboy advisor, big brother
FAVORITE SMELL:  a woman
WORST FEELING IN THE WORLD: losing the one you love
BEST FEELING IN THE WORLD:  being with close friends
FAVORITE THINGS TO DO ON THE WEEKENDS: the beach
FAVORITE SOUNDTRACK: the mouse (soundtrack to my life)
WHAT IS THE FIRST THING YOU THINK OF WHEN YOU WAKE UP IN THE
 MORNING?  i wonder how the waves are?
DO YOU GET MOTION SICKNESS ? no
 ROLLER COASTERS-DEADLY OR EXCITING? exciting
 PEN OR PENCIL?  Pen
 HOW MANY RINGS BEFORE YOU ANSWER THE PHONE? 2
 FUTURE SON'S NAME? Redd
 FUTURE DAUGHTER'S NAME: 
 FAVORITE FOOD: soy turkey sandwich
 DO YOU GET ALONG WELL WITH YOUR PARENT(S): yes
DO YOU LIKE TO DRIVE?  yes
 DO YOU SLEEP WITH STUFFED ANIMALS? yes
WHAT TYPE OF CAR WAS YOUR FIRST CAR? 74 super beetle
IF YOU COULD MEET ONE PERSON, DEAD OR ALIVE, WHO WOULD IT BE?  john brown or 
jesus christ (im not religious at all, i just think it would be interesting 
to meet one of the most influential person in human history)
FAVORITE ALCOHOLIC : henry chinaski
 WHAT IS YOUR ZODIAC SIGN? libra
WHO IS YOUR FAVORITE POET? bukowski
DO YOU EAT THE STEMS OF BROCCOLI? yeah, with ranch dressing
 GUYS~IF A GIRL ASKED FOR THE SHIRT OFF YOUR BACK, WOULD YOU
GIVE IT? depends on the girl, but almost always,,, yes
IF YOU COULD HAVE ANY JOB YOU WANTED, WHAT WOULD IT BE? professional traveler
IF YOU COULD DYE YOUR HAIR ANY COLOR, WHAT WOULD 
IT BE?  blue
  IF YOU COULD HAVE A TATTOO, WHAT AND WHERE WOULD IT BE?  um,,, probably 
everythign johnson has... it's all so good
HAVE YOU EVER BEEN IN LOVE?  yeah
 WHAT IS ON YOUR WALLS IN YOUR ROOM:  pics of my friends, henry clay, some 
paintings, misfits, slayer, unbroken, and headcoatees posters...
IS THE GLASS HALF EMPTY OR HALF FULL? depends on whether you're drinking or 
pouring
 WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE SNAPPLE? peach ice tea... come on
FAVORITE MOVIE(S)?  field of dreams, austin powers, barfly
LEFTY OR RIGHTY? Righty
WHAT'S UNDER YOUR BED?  shoes, Alf costume
WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE NUMBER? 8
WHAT IS YOUR DREAM CAR? beat up late 60s convertible
FAVORITE SPORT TO WATCH: basketball... lakers
SAY ONE NICE THING ABOUT THE PERSON(S) WHO SENT THIS TO YOU: um, it was some 
dude on the modest mouse mailing list... that alone says it all... i mean, 
come on, he's on the mouse mailing list, that makes him cool already...
WHAT'S IN YOUR CD/TAPE PLAYER RIGHT NOW: us bombs "the world"
WOULD YOU JUMP ON A BOMB FOR A FRIEND? depends on the friend
ARE YOU FRIENDS WITH ANY OF YOUR EX'S? yeah
WHAT ADVICE WOULD YOU GIVE TO A TEENAGER RIGHT NOW?