[MOPO] RANDOM HARVEST image of the one sheet
can anyone direct me to see the image of the OS of 1942 RANDOM HARVEST. i have seen 2 diff one sheets, both are undated, but the images identical except that on one image on the top it says: Another triumph from Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer on the other it states: Another triumph from Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer the producers of Mrs. Miniver - Notice the extra few words on one poster? -- Heritage Auction Archives shows the extra language on the images of the half sheet and insert. they never sold the one sheet. Does anyone have the pressbook ??? which was released first in 1942, RANDOM HARVEST or MRS MINIVER ?? ---THANK YOU... ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Fake inserts, an open question to LAMP
Helmut Hamm wrote: My question to Ed and Sue from LAMP is: Do you actually still see a 'controversy' over this issue [the authenticity of the minty white inserts]? Quite frankly, everybody I know seems to think they are fake. Everybody else on the list, please be so kind and refrain from comments until Ed and Sue have had their say. Thank you. Helmut wrote this four days ago, and as of yet, no response from Ed. I think it would be really nice if every long time dealer in the hobby needs to weigh in on this subject, either saying they believe them to be genuine, some sort of re-strikes, or reproductions, or that they don't have enough knowledge or evidence to give an opinion. Certainly, it would be great if new collectors were presented with those opinions, so they could have all the information needed to decide if they want to buy any of these. I have made this the subject of my latest e-mail club poll. I state the following in my club message: I felt it is long overdue that the members of this club discuss something that has been whispered about all through the hobby for years, namely the minty white inserts that have sold in great quantities on eBay. I want to bring this subject out in the open and I hope some of the leading voices in this hobby will come out publicly with THEIR views on this subject, either through a message to me that they allow me to print here with their name, or through a post to an online forum (I have long ago made my own views on this subject known, and will do so again in this club next week when I present the results of the following poll). This NEW poll asks, My opinion of the authenticity of minty white inserts is (see below for a detailed explanation of what these are): The listed choices are: I believe the minty white inserts are genuine posters that were printed at the time of release. I believe the minty white inserts are re-strike posters that were printed at the time of release. I believe the minty white inserts are re-strike posters that were printed after the time of release. I believe the minty white inserts are reproductions that were printed long after the time of release. I believe there is not enough evidence to make an absolute decision on these either way. Other (please explain what your other opinion is) IMPORTANT NOTE: One of the most controversial subjects in the movie paper collecting hobby are the minty white inserts which are endlessly sold on eBay (these are top titles from the 1970s and 1980s which are printed on a different sort of paper stock from that of any insert from the same period any collector has ever seen). The inserts are printed on a whiter than white paper that is glossy on both sides, which has earned them the well-deserved nickname of minty white inserts. Since the beginning of eBay, hundreds (or thousands) of EACH of these titles have been sold, and there is seemingly an endless supply of each. In the early days of eBay, these titles sold for roughly the same prices as known originals, but in recent years, their prices have dropped significantly, and it is rare that they are purchased by anyone who is not a brand new collector. Many collectors purchased these early in their collecting career, and have found them difficult or impossible to re-s! ell. Most collectors and dealers have an opinion as to the originality of these posters! Some say they are originals from a warehouse find, others say they are re-strikes that were printed from the original plates, either at the time or later, and some say they are flat out reproductions, printed years after the fact. Pick whichever of the choices below best describes YOUR personal opinion of these minty white inserts (feel free to expand on your opinion in the Comments box below, and please be sure to say whether you have ever bought or sold any of these inserts) If any MoPo members are NOT members of my e-mail club, you can join by going to http://www.emovieposter.com/mail/clubsignup.php (only club members can vote in the poll) I will post the results of the poll on MoPo next week, along with my thoughts. I hope that during the coming week, Ed and Sue will give their thoughts, and that many other longtime dealers will post as well. Thanks to Helmut for once again raising this issue. There may be lots of controversy over this subject, but there is no disputing that hundreds of thousands of dollars (maybe millions!) have been spent on these inserts, and there is no disputing that they currently sell for a fraction of the price of known originals, so this certainly is an important issue for our hobby! Bruce Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your
[MOPO] MOPO WTB Key photo set for Wizard of Oz and or Gone With the Wind
WTB Key photo set for Wizard of Oz and or Gone With the Wind call or email Jim Episale 800 872 9990 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.11/838 - Release Date: 6/7/2007 2:21 PM Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Fake inserts, an open question to LAMP
Thanks to Bruce for weighing in on this matter. Since a few days have passed, I also feel it is fair to open this discussion. Personally, I have no doubt that the 'minty white' inserts are reproductions, and that they were made long after the original release. Helmut Hamm Galerie filmposter.net Helmut Hamm wrote: My question to Ed and Sue from LAMP is: Do you actually still see a 'controversy' over this issue [the authenticity of the minty white inserts]? Quite frankly, everybody I know seems to think they are fake. Everybody else on the list, please be so kind and refrain from comments until Ed and Sue have had their say. Thank you. Helmut wrote this four days ago, and as of yet, no response from Ed. I think it would be really nice if every long time dealer in the hobby needs to weigh in on this subject, either saying they believe them to be genuine, some sort of re-strikes, or reproductions, or that they don't have enough knowledge or evidence to give an opinion. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] Fake Inserts
Instead of getting people opinions on these inserts, isn't there some way to find out the actual story? I'm just asking -- I haven't really followed on this but someone out there must know the REALITY of the situation. Channing Thomson in San Francisco Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] ENDS TONIGHT (after the Sopranos) - PRESS KITS!!
Hi - Some great press kits ending tonight. ALL AUCTIONS END AFTER THE FINAL EPISODE OF THE SOPRANOS!! Please check these out: SOME GREAT PRESS KITS: SCHINDLER'S LIST - Spielberg - AA Winner BEST PICTURE: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=60357item=270127045544 ALIEN RESURRECTION -1997 Press Kit- WINONA RYDER, SIGOURNEY WEAVER - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=60357item=270127045438 CROOKLYN - 1994 original Press Kit - SPIKE LEE- http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=60357item=270127045457 TRAINSPOTTING - 1996 original Press Kit - EWAN MCGREGOR - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=60357item=270127045465 THE ROCK -1996 original Press Kit - SEAN CONNERY, NICOLAS CAGE, ED HARRIS - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=60357item=270127045480 THE PROFESSIONAL-orig 1994 Press Kit-- NATALIE PORTMAN, JEAN RENO, GARY OLDMAN - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=60357item=270127045505 STRIPTEASE - Original 1996 Press Kit- DEMI MOORE, VING RHAMES, BURT REYNOLDS - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=60357item=270127045534 SPICE WORLD-orig 1997 Press Kit- SPICE GIRLS- 12 stills - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=60357item=270127045558 WYATT EARP -1994 original Press Kit- KEVIN COSTNER - 14 Stills! - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=60357item=270127045571 THE FAVOR - 1994 original Press Kit - BRAD PITT - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=60357item=270127045578 WILD THINGS -orig Press Kit- KEVIN BACON, MATT DILLON - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=270127045586 USUAL SUSPECTS - Ebay store item - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=60357item=7631289254 LETHAL WEAPON press kit - MEL GIBSON, DANNY GLOVER - Ebay Store Item - http://cgi.ebay.com/LETHAL-WEAPON-press-kit-MEL-GIBSON-DANNY-GLOVER_W0QQitemZ7629036369QQihZ017QQcategoryZ60356QQcmdZViewItem RUNAWAY BRIDE Press Kit - JULIA ROBERTS, RICHARD GERE 6 stills; 8 color slides! - Ebay Store item - http://cgi.ebay.com/RUNAWAY-BRIDE-Press-Kit-JULIA-ROBERTS-RICHARD-GERE_W0QQitemZ7629036384QQihZ017QQcategoryZ60357QQcmdZViewItem BORN ON THE FOURTH OF JULY press kit- TOM CRUISE - Ebay Store Item - http://cgi.ebay.com/BORN-ON-THE-FOURTH-OF-JULY-press-kit-TOM-CRUISE_W0QQitemZ270002241447QQihZ017QQcategoryZ60356QQcmdZViewItem DINER press kit - KEVIN BACON, MICKEY ROURKE - 1982 - Ebay Store item - http://cgi.ebay.com/DINER-press-kit-KEVIN-BACON-MICKEY-ROURKE-1982_W0QQitemZ270049390649QQihZ017QQcategoryZ60356QQcmdZViewItem See all my listings at: http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItemssince=2userid=smisam1133include=0rows=500sort=3 Thanks for looking and be sure to see my feedback! Sam Smith smisam1133 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Fake inserts
Channing wrote: Instead of getting people opinions on these inserts, isn't there some way to find out the actual story? I'm just asking -- I haven't really followed on this but someone out there must know the REALITY of the situation. Channing If these were printed by individuals years after and sold as originals to collectors, it would take one of them finding religion to get them to confess to their crime (and anyone involved would be confessing to a crime). So who exactly are you hoping will come forward to give the actual story? But I have handled many hundreds of thousands of posters (as has people like Joe Burtis, Mike Hawks, and many others) and many dealers have handled many tens of thousands of posters, and surely it is valuable information to know if THEY feel these are authentic, and to know if they have EVER seen ANY other inserts printed on the same sort of paper. Remember the controversy over the Dumars fake Howard Hughes will? Hundreds of millions were at stake, and no one could determine conclusively if it was or was not authentic (and I read all I could on the matter, and personally, I think it likely was real!). If all those experts in that case, spending millions, could not solve that, then where and how are we expected to solve the case of the minty whites? Bruce Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Fake inserts, an open question to LAMP
I have been dubious about the minty white inserts for a long time, but I don't KNOW. I would certainly not buy one knowingly with the intention of reselling it. I am in the reselling business, and I want people to have confidence that what they buy from me is authentic. If avoiding these posters fosters that, I am happy to give up any potential profits from them. Unless some real factual information comes forward that is completely credible, my opinion is that these are damaged goods at best. Kirby McDaniel www.movieart.net On Jun 10, 2007, at 9:35 AM, Bruce Hershenson wrote: Helmut Hamm wrote: My question to Ed and Sue from LAMP is: Do you actually still see a 'controversy' over this issue [the authenticity of the minty white inserts]? Quite frankly, everybody I know seems to think they are fake. Everybody else on the list, please be so kind and refrain from comments until Ed and Sue have had their say. Thank you. Helmut wrote this four days ago, and as of yet, no response from Ed. I think it would be really nice if every long time dealer in the hobby needs to weigh in on this subject, either saying they believe them to be genuine, some sort of re-strikes, or reproductions, or that they don't have enough knowledge or evidence to give an opinion. Certainly, it would be great if new collectors were presented with those opinions, so they could have all the information needed to decide if they want to buy any of these. I have made this the subject of my latest e-mail club poll. I state the following in my club message: I felt it is long overdue that the members of this club discuss something that has been whispered about all through the hobby for years, namely the minty white inserts that have sold in great quantities on eBay. I want to bring this subject out in the open and I hope some of the leading voices in this hobby will come out publicly with THEIR views on this subject, either through a message to me that they allow me to print here with their name, or through a post to an online forum (I have long ago made my own views on this subject known, and will do so again in this club next week when I present the results of the following poll). This NEW poll asks, My opinion of the authenticity of minty white inserts is (see below for a detailed explanation of what these are): The listed choices are: I believe the minty white inserts are genuine posters that were printed at the time of release. I believe the minty white inserts are re-strike posters that were printed at the time of release. I believe the minty white inserts are re-strike posters that were printed after the time of release. I believe the minty white inserts are reproductions that were printed long after the time of release. I believe there is not enough evidence to make an absolute decision on these either way. Other (please explain what your other opinion is) IMPORTANT NOTE: One of the most controversial subjects in the movie paper collecting hobby are the minty white inserts which are endlessly sold on eBay (these are top titles from the 1970s and 1980s which are printed on a different sort of paper stock from that of any insert from the same period any collector has ever seen). The inserts are printed on a whiter than white paper that is glossy on both sides, which has earned them the well-deserved nickname of minty white inserts. Since the beginning of eBay, hundreds (or thousands) of EACH of these titles have been sold, and there is seemingly an endless supply of each. In the early days of eBay, these titles sold for roughly the same prices as known originals, but in recent years, their prices have dropped significantly, and it is rare that they are purchased by anyone who is not a brand new collector. Many collectors purchased these early in their collecting career, and have found them difficult or impossible to re-s! ell. Most collectors and dealers have an opinion as to the originality of these posters! Some say they are originals from a warehouse find, others say they are re-strikes that were printed from the original plates, either at the time or later, and some say they are flat out reproductions, printed years after the fact. Pick whichever of the choices below best describes YOUR personal opinion of these minty white inserts (feel free to expand on your opinion in the Comments box below, and please be sure to say whether you have ever bought or sold any of these inserts) If any MoPo members are NOT members of my e-mail club, you can join by going to http://www.emovieposter.com/mail/clubsignup.php (only club members can vote in the poll) I will post the results of the poll on MoPo next week, along with my thoughts. I hope that during the coming week, Ed and Sue will give their thoughts, and that many other longtime dealers will post as well. Thanks to Helmut for once again raising
[MOPO] FA CLOSING! EscapeFromNY,SpyWhoLovedMe,Rare1941,WhenMyBabySmilesAtMe,RareX-Rated
Hi, Everyone, Not only do I have original US one sheets on ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK, THE SPY WHO LOVED ME (NM), an INCREDIBLE linen-backed one sheet on WHEN MY BABY SMILES AT ME (Betty Grable,1948) closing WITHIN 8 TO 9 HOURS, but also more that 40 OTHER Auctions---lots of GREAT, sometimes One-Of-A-Kind material! If you have a minute, please take a look: Link is below along with MUCH LONGER partial list. PLEASE SCROLL DOWN TO VIEW LIST!!! Thanks, Rick _http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZrixposterz_ (http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZrixposterz) 1941 (Spielberg, Belushi,1979) Orig US ADVANCE One Sheet SELLS FOR $100 to $200! ONLY $24.99!! THE PHANTOM OF LIBERTY (Luis Bunuel Classic,1974) Orig US One Sheet MINT!! NETWORK (Holden, FINCH, Dunaway,1976) Orig US One Sheet NEAR MINT!! BRING ME THE HEAD OF ALFREDO GARCIA (Peckinpah,1974) RARE Style B US One Sheet LOOK! RYAN'S DAUGHTER (David Lean, Mitchum, 1970) Orig US One Sheet MAGNIFICENT ART!! THE RARE BREED (James Stewart WESTERN CLASSIC,1966) Orig US One Sheet!!! LOOK!! THE BUSY BODY Orig 1967 US One Sheet FEATURING VINTAGE FRANK FRAZETTA ART!!! TORN CURTAIN FAMILY PLOT 2 Orig Alfred Hitchcock Posters!! NEAR MINT!! BOTH FOR $19.99!! THE BIG BRAWL (Kung Fu,Vintage Jackie Chan,1980) Orig US One Sheet!!! LOOK!!! THE FLAME BARRIER (Sci-Fi/HORROR,1958) Orig US One Sheet!! MANIAC! (CULT HORROR CLASSIC, 1980) Orig US One Sheet!!! REDUCED!! LOOK!! EATEN ALIVE (Tobe Hooper, HORROR, 1977) Orig US One Sheet INCREDIBLE HORROR ART! $14.99! HANK WILLIAMS JR. SHELLY FABARES in A TIME TO SING Orig 1968 US Pressbook!! LOOK!! MARY POPPINS SO DEAR TO MY HEART 2 VINTAGE WALT DISNEY US Pressbooks TONS OF INFO THE CHASE (Marlon Brando, 1966) Orig US Insert NEAR MINT!! LOOK!! ZACHARIAH (Marijuana,1970) I LOVE YOU ALICE B TOKLAS (Peter Sellers, Hashish) 2 Orig VINTAGE DRUG-RELATED POSTERS $19.99!! **3 X-RATED ONE SHEETS! LOOK: * KEEP IT UP! (X-Rated Cult Classic,1972) Orig US One Sheet RARE TITLE! LOOK! ZERO IN AND SCREAM (Ultra Rare, Controversial X-Rated,1969) Orig US One Sheet SEX DEATH! PIN-UP PLAYMATES (X-Rated Classic, 1972) Orig US One Sheet GORGEOUS BRUNETTE! LOOK! VALENTINO (Nureyev, Michelle Phillips,1977) Orig US 1/2 Sheet NAKED EMBRACE!! THE CAPTURE (John Sturges WESTERN, 1950) Orig US 3 SHEET!! GREAT ART!! ONLY $19.99!!! 1001 ARABIAN NIGHTS (Mr Magoo Classic, Animation,1959) Orig US Lobby Card Set ONLY $19.99!!! ALL THE PRESIDENTS MEN (Hoffman, Redford, 1976) orig US One Sheet LOOK!!! WALK ON THE WILD SIDE (Stanwyck, Fonda, Controversial,1962) Orig US Title Card 6 Lobby Cards! And these are only about HALF of the auctions I have closing TONIGHT.SOON!!! Thanks for looking, Rick _http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZrixposterz_ (http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZrixposterz) ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] RANDOM HARVEST image of the one sheet
hey michael and list, MRS MINIVER was released in the US, on June 4, 1942 in NY, and on July 22, 1942, in los angeles. RANDOM HARVEST was released on December 17, 1942. it would only make sense that MINIVER was released first if the poster text for HARVEST said,from the producers of MRS MINIVER best. jeff On Jun 10, 2007, at 6:56 AM, Michael B wrote: can anyone direct me to see the image of the OS of 1942 RANDOM HARVEST. i have seen 2 diff one sheets, both are undated, but the images identical except that on one image on the top it says: Another triumph from Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer on the other it states: Another triumph from Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer the producers of Mrs. Miniver - Notice the extra few words on one poster? -- Heritage Auction Archives shows the extra language on the images of the half sheet and insert. they never sold the one sheet. Does anyone have the pressbook ??? which was released first in 1942, RANDOM HARVEST or MRS MINIVER ?? ---THANK YOU... See what's free at AOL.com. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing ListSend a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-LThe author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Fake inserts
Hey Bruce/Mopo: Well, there's no question they're fakes. If they were real, all these guys would have to do is publicly display ONE SINGLE insert that came from a theatre. One insert that is from the same print-run as the 'minty whites'. Just one. Prove that ONE of them existed 30 years ago. That's it. That's all. And, they haven't been able to do that in how many years now (remember the artwork was changed on a lot of the fakes)? Originals (with provenance) ALL have this artwork - minty white ones (all without provenance) ALL have that different artwork. They're fake. Period. End of story. Over and out... Cheers, Bob - Original Message - From: Bruce Hershenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fake inserts Channing wrote: Instead of getting people opinions on these inserts, isn't there some way to find out the actual story? I'm just asking -- I haven't really followed on this but someone out there must know the REALITY of the situation. Channing If these were printed by individuals years after and sold as originals to collectors, it would take one of them finding religion to get them to confess to their crime (and anyone involved would be confessing to a crime). So who exactly are you hoping will come forward to give the actual story? But I have handled many hundreds of thousands of posters (as has people like Joe Burtis, Mike Hawks, and many others) and many dealers have handled many tens of thousands of posters, and surely it is valuable information to know if THEY feel these are authentic, and to know if they have EVER seen ANY other inserts printed on the same sort of paper. Remember the controversy over the Dumars fake Howard Hughes will? Hundreds of millions were at stake, and no one could determine conclusively if it was or was not authentic (and I read all I could on the matter, and personally, I think it likely was real!). If all those experts in that case, spending millions, could not solve that, then where and how are we expected to solve the case of the minty whites? Bruce Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Fake inserts
Oh yeah, I never actually worked at an NSS warehouse before, but I think a couple people on here did, so I'd love to hear them chime in. But, I've been inside several poster-distributors - and the idea that there was literally thousands of each title of the most highly used (and popular) inserts lying around in a warehouse, completely unused, is absolutely ludicrous! That kind of thing could possibly happen for one sheets, lobby cards or stills even, but never, ever inserts, 30by40's or 40by60's! So, you're telling me that like 90% of the entire US print-run of inserts - for 10 years straight - ended up unused and forgotten in a lost warehouse somewhere, and no one ever noticed?!? Almost ALL of the inserts ever printed that decade, and none made it to a theatre! Wow. That's incompetence on an almost unprecedented scale! Either that, or they're fakes... Again, if anyone's ever been inside an NSS warehouse, how big was the area that they stored like 50 years worth of inserts? And, how big would this warehouse have to be to hold a thousand copies or more of every title from the 70's? Now, let's compare the two... ;o) Cheers, Bob - Original Message - From: Bruce Hershenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fake inserts Channing wrote: Instead of getting people opinions on these inserts, isn't there some way to find out the actual story? I'm just asking -- I haven't really followed on this but someone out there must know the REALITY of the situation. Channing If these were printed by individuals years after and sold as originals to collectors, it would take one of them finding religion to get them to confess to their crime (and anyone involved would be confessing to a crime). So who exactly are you hoping will come forward to give the actual story? But I have handled many hundreds of thousands of posters (as has people like Joe Burtis, Mike Hawks, and many others) and many dealers have handled many tens of thousands of posters, and surely it is valuable information to know if THEY feel these are authentic, and to know if they have EVER seen ANY other inserts printed on the same sort of paper. Remember the controversy over the Dumars fake Howard Hughes will? Hundreds of millions were at stake, and no one could determine conclusively if it was or was not authentic (and I read all I could on the matter, and personally, I think it likely was real!). If all those experts in that case, spending millions, could not solve that, then where and how are we expected to solve the case of the minty whites? Bruce Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] HOW MANY MINTY EARS ARE THERE OUT THERE?
Mopos - Got to wondering just how many poster sell, want, trade and discuss major chat groups (a few hundred folks or larger) are out there on the internet and what are the plus and minus points as well as contact info for each one? Alan Adler Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] wanted: THE QUIET MAN 1SH, and GIANT 3SH
please let me know. thanks, David Lieberman CineMasterpieces.com 602 309 0500 _CineMasterpieces.com_ (http://www.cinemasterpieces.com/) Please vote YES for each one of our _eBay GUIDES_ (http://search.reviews.ebay.com/members/cinemasterpieces_W0QQuqtZg) . Check out our _eBay AUCTIONS_ (http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ50QQsassZcinemasterpieces) . ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Fake inserts
I think you underestimate yourself, Bruce. With all of your resources in the movie poster world, I have no doubt that at some point, sooner or later, you'll have a definitive answer. As to my opinion, whatever that is worth, they look like fakes to me. Someone once said if it's too good to be true, it probably is. That's my instinct with these posters. On the other hand, the word probably is always hovering in the atmosphere until the facts of the matter have been borne out. Channing On Jun 10, 2007, at 9:45 AM, Bruce Hershenson wrote: Channing wrote: Instead of getting people opinions on these inserts, isn't there some way to find out the actual story? I'm just asking -- I haven't really followed on this but someone out there must know the REALITY of the situation. Channing If these were printed by individuals years after and sold as originals to collectors, it would take one of them finding religion to get them to confess to their crime (and anyone involved would be confessing to a crime). So who exactly are you hoping will come forward to give the actual story? But I have handled many hundreds of thousands of posters (as has people like Joe Burtis, Mike Hawks, and many others) and many dealers have handled many tens of thousands of posters, and surely it is valuable information to know if THEY feel these are authentic, and to know if they have EVER seen ANY other inserts printed on the same sort of paper. Remember the controversy over the Dumars fake Howard Hughes will? Hundreds of millions were at stake, and no one could determine conclusively if it was or was not authentic (and I read all I could on the matter, and personally, I think it likely was real!). If all those experts in that case, spending millions, could not solve that, then where and how are we expected to solve the case of the minty whites? Bruce Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Fake inserts, an open question to LAMP
I think they are clearly repro's of some sort and would not touch one with a 10 foot pole. Sam Posteritati 239 Centre Street New York, NY 10013 212-226-2207/ Fax: 212-226-2102 http://www.posteritati.com/ On Jun 10, 2007, at 10:35 AM, Bruce Hershenson wrote: Helmut Hamm wrote: My question to Ed and Sue from LAMP is: Do you actually still see a 'controversy' over this issue [the authenticity of the minty white inserts]? Quite frankly, everybody I know seems to think they are fake. Everybody else on the list, please be so kind and refrain from comments until Ed and Sue have had their say. Thank you. Helmut wrote this four days ago, and as of yet, no response from Ed. I think it would be really nice if every long time dealer in the hobby needs to weigh in on this subject, either saying they believe them to be genuine, some sort of re-strikes, or reproductions, or that they don't have enough knowledge or evidence to give an opinion. Certainly, it would be great if new collectors were presented with those opinions, so they could have all the information needed to decide if they want to buy any of these. I have made this the subject of my latest e-mail club poll. I state the following in my club message: I felt it is long overdue that the members of this club discuss something that has been whispered about all through the hobby for years, namely the minty white inserts that have sold in great quantities on eBay. I want to bring this subject out in the open and I hope some of the leading voices in this hobby will come out publicly with THEIR views on this subject, either through a message to me that they allow me to print here with their name, or through a post to an online forum (I have long ago made my own views on this subject known, and will do so again in this club next week when I present the results of the following poll). This NEW poll asks, My opinion of the authenticity of minty white inserts is (see below for a detailed explanation of what these are): The listed choices are: I believe the minty white inserts are genuine posters that were printed at the time of release. I believe the minty white inserts are re-strike posters that were printed at the time of release. I believe the minty white inserts are re-strike posters that were printed after the time of release. I believe the minty white inserts are reproductions that were printed long after the time of release. I believe there is not enough evidence to make an absolute decision on these either way. Other (please explain what your other opinion is) IMPORTANT NOTE: One of the most controversial subjects in the movie paper collecting hobby are the minty white inserts which are endlessly sold on eBay (these are top titles from the 1970s and 1980s which are printed on a different sort of paper stock from that of any insert from the same period any collector has ever seen). The inserts are printed on a whiter than white paper that is glossy on both sides, which has earned them the well-deserved nickname of minty white inserts. Since the beginning of eBay, hundreds (or thousands) of EACH of these titles have been sold, and there is seemingly an endless supply of each. In the early days of eBay, these titles sold for roughly the same prices as known originals, but in recent years, their prices have dropped significantly, and it is rare that they are purchased by anyone who is not a brand new collector. Many collectors purchased these early in their collecting career, and have found them difficult or impossible to re-s! ell. Most collectors and dealers have an opinion as to the originality of these posters! Some say they are originals from a warehouse find, others say they are re-strikes that were printed from the original plates, either at the time or later, and some say they are flat out reproductions, printed years after the fact. Pick whichever of the choices below best describes YOUR personal opinion of these minty white inserts (feel free to expand on your opinion in the Comments box below, and please be sure to say whether you have ever bought or sold any of these inserts) If any MoPo members are NOT members of my e-mail club, you can join by going to http://www.emovieposter.com/mail/clubsignup.php (only club members can vote in the poll) I will post the results of the poll on MoPo next week, along with my thoughts. I hope that during the coming week, Ed and Sue will give their thoughts, and that many other longtime dealers will post as well. Thanks to Helmut for once again raising this issue. There may be lots of controversy over this subject, but there is no disputing that hundreds of thousands of dollars (maybe millions!) have been spent on these inserts, and there is no disputing that they currently sell for a fraction of the price of known originals, so this certainly is an important issue
[MOPO] what were they thinking in 1955 ???
look at the extra paint! boy, that small town theatre owner didnt want you see Yvonne's. LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=011sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AITviewitem=item=320125761767rd=1rd=1 michael AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] THE FAKE INSERTS....2 categories??
David, are the two categories you're talking about both printed on that weird stock? Cheers, Rich Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] FA: No Reserve! Horror/Sci-Fi, Hitchcock, Bogart
My usual fantastic assortment of NO RESERVE auctions is going up tonight. The usual assortment of high-quality pieces that you've come to expect from my offerings. For example, near complete sets on INVASION OF THE SAUCER-MEN. LAWRENCE OF ARABIA, PSYCHO, and 7th VOYAGE of SINBAD, plus some really nice early Marilyn Monroe (Including Dangerous Years her first film), some prime cards from BREAKFAST AT TIFFANY'S Even UNIVERSAL HORROR and a totally unrestored original One Sheet on MIGHTY JOE YOUNG. View them all here: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZplatinumpostersQQhtZ-1 Or, check out some of the highlights; BIRDS Rolled Insert http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320125787995 item=320125787995 MIGHTY JOE YOUNG One-Sheet http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320125788425 item=320125788425 ASPHALT JUNGLE Marilyn Card http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320125790089 item=320125790089 BREAKFAST AT TIFFANY'S Lobby Card http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320125790134 item=320125790134 DRACULA'S DAUGHTER Lobby Card http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320125790181 item=320125790181 HAROLD LLOYD Lobby Card http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320125790241 item=320125790241 MUMMY (Universal) Lobby Card #3 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320125790450 item=320125790450 PSYCHO Lobby Card http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320125790535 item=320125790535 ROAD TO ZANZIBAR Lobby Card http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320125790563 item=320125790563 Thanks, Sean No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.11/838 - Release Date: 6/7/2007 2:21 PM Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] Off Topic SOPRANOS The Finale Sublime
Okay I don't know how many Mopo'ers were regular viewers of Sopranos...but I truly spent my Sundays at 6:00 or 9:00 (East Coast transmission or West Coast airing many time both) since its first HBO airing. When between seasons I turned into a relentless channel switcher looking for movies or some programming approaching SOPRANO'S quality and unless it was a true classic on TCM it proved a futile exercise. The stunning series ended tonight in brilliant fashion, building suspense oh so slowly while attending to loose story lines. Then Tony having a rare dinner just with the wife and his adult kids at a favorite diner, while familiar hit men quietly enter and then.literally. Those dots will leave you spellbound. As for inserts if doubtful don't buy. That simple. Pass it on. freeman fisher 8601 west knoll drive #7 west hollywood, ca 90069 ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] Off Topic SOPRANOS Finale Sublime - (SPOILER WARNING)
(DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THE SOPRANOS FINALE.) I'm not so sure, Freeman. Were the familiar hit men you say are familiar seen in some other context previously? Or were they FBI tails? The ending is ambiguous and brilliant because of it. Either way -- the family has been gelded. Why? Because my first impression was yours -- that the whacking takes place moments after the camera goes But as I thought about it more -- there is a second back-story that creator David Chase kept pushing into my face -- whereby the FBI is complicit in ensuring Tony's survival -- so that the years it has spent trying to get him indicted, finally pays off. After Tony's rival gang leader is literally popped -- the FBI agent briefly celebrates, saying, Damn, were going to win this thing! The dark opera ending that I prefer, of course, is the one you mention -- it seems more fitting. But isn't it like David Chase to leave the audience NOT QUITE SURE? This is brilliant because David Chase I felt was never going to go conventional on us and show us a Hollywood ending. I think people may argue about this ending for a long time... -koose. Original Message Follows From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Off TopicSOPRANOS The Finale Sublime Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 22:34:51 EDT Okay I don't know how many Mopo'ers were regular viewers of Sopranos...but I truly spent my Sundays at 6:00 or 9:00 (East Coast transmission or West Coast airing many time both) since its first HBO airing. When between seasons I turned into a relentless channel switcher looking for movies or some programming approaching SOPRANO'S quality and unless it was a true classic on TCM it proved a futile exercise. The stunning series ended tonight in brilliant fashion, building suspense oh so slowly while attending to loose story lines. Then Tony having a rare dinner just with the wife and his adult kids at a favorite diner, while familiar hit men quietly enter and then.literally. Those dots will leave you spellbound. As for inserts if doubtful don't buy. That simple. Pass it on. freeman fisher 8601 west knoll drive #7 west hollywood, ca 90069 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Off Topic SOPRANOS The Finale Sublime
Personally I thought the finale was terrible. They wasted half the show on AJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay I don't know how many Mopo'ers were regular viewers of Sopranos...but I truly spent my Sundays at 6:00 or 9:00 (East Coast transmission or West Coast airing many time both) since its first HBO airing. When between seasons I turned into a relentless channel switcher looking for movies or some programming approaching SOPRANO'S quality and unless it was a true classic on TCM it proved a futile exercise. The stunning series ended tonight in brilliant fashion, building suspense oh so slowly while attending to loose story lines. Then Tony having a rare dinner just with the wife and his adult kids at a favorite diner, while familiar hit men quietly enter and then.literally.Those dots will leave you spellbound. As for inserts if doubtful don't buy. That simple. Pass it on. freeman fisher 8601 west knoll drive #7 west hollywood, ca 90069 See what's free at AOL.com http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF0002000503. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] Off Topic Sopanos Spoiler Warning
Do not continue if you haven't seen the finale. David regarding whack or no whackthe main point I was making was Chase left it shockingly ambiguous. That was what was spellbinding to me. I think personally it was a race to the finish for Tony's life, either dead or alive but dead in hands of Feds.First thought, not enough muscle for an FBI interceptand the individual going to the restroom called up Pacino going to the head and coming out with more than just his dick in his hand. But beautifully up to us to debate. But leave it to Chase to create suspense to near unbearable heights brilliantly just by Meadow's inability to parallel park wonderful, As for AJ his character's maddening naivety , unrealistic, self-absorbed, purpose driven life was given I think the needed extra time so to be served up by Chase and skewered a searing indictment on the current lack of integrity,passion and dedication of today's youth for a better future. This by witnessing AJ's complete surrender of any of his declarations to address dependency on oil, rights violations of Muslims, Nuclear proliferation, and his supposed epiphany of material wealth and conspicuous consumption with his SUV burned up all rendered moot when given an entry level film deal and a new car albeit with somewhat better mileage and poof there went global pro-activity. And it allowed once again the delusions of Tony and Carmela the idea of success...that AJ is working for an active film production company.exactly one step up above porn now venturing into cheapie torture horror films. Carmela's classic yes make those phone calls and get valuable contacts. freeman fisher 8601 west knoll drive #7 west hollywood, ca 90069 ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Off Topic Sopanos Spoiler Warning
Oh no, Freeman, I agree. And wasn't it great? With regard to whether the FBI had the ability to intercept, that too, is up for debate. ** But it's pretty clear that by the time we reach the ending, everyone knows that w/the popping of rival gang leader Phil -- that Tony's enemies have lost their leader. The motive to whack the Sopranos is lost because the rival gang's own top lieutenants tip their hands earlier -- even if they were lying -- that they has no stomach for war. Phil's lieutenant, receiving no commitment to be made by Phil himself -- meets Tony at a neutral location and decides to let Tony hit his boss without hitting back. He won't provide Phil's location but the FBI is trying to hide its enthusiasm, giving Tony subtle leads about Phil's possible location, etc. ** The FBI has nothing to gain losing Tony and everything to gain by keeping him solvent. The FBI has been setting up Tony from the beginning, making Tony feel like the FBI could actually help him survive. Even the counter-terrorism stuff may be been a set-up -- because since the series premiered in 1999, the FBI has tried all sorts of things, playing cat-and-mouse with Tony, coming close to nailing him, but always missing. ** We as an audience know that the Sopranos are right wing mobsters who can be played w/the terrorism angle, and the vexing thing for the family is the issue about A.J. and his confusion about the world around him. Because when the chips are down, despite their feelings about America, they'll let A.J. do anything even marginally illegal just to keep him from joining the Army. I agree the A.J. plot line gave A.J. something to do, providing a subtext that was close to a damn speech. And this was starting to get annoying only because you can hear the audience saying to themselves, yes, yes, we get all that, but what's going to happen to Tony? ** I'm cancelling HBO tomorrow and renewing when Curb Your Enthusiasm returns in September. Original Message Follows From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Off Topic Sopanos Spoiler Warning Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 23:24:40 EDT Do not continue if you haven't seen the finale. David regarding whack or no whackthe main point I was making was Chase left it shockingly ambiguous. That was what was spellbinding to me. I think personally it was a race to the finish for Tony's life, either dead or alive but dead in hands of Feds.First thought, not enough muscle for an FBI interceptand the individual going to the restroom called up Pacino going to the head and coming out with more than just his dick in his hand. But beautifully up to us to debate. But leave it to Chase to create suspense to near unbearable heights brilliantly just by Meadow's inability to parallel park wonderful, As for AJ his character's maddening naivety , unrealistic, self-absorbed, purpose driven life was given I think the needed extra time so to be served up by Chase and skewered a searing indictment on the current lack of integrity,passion and dedication of today's youth for a better future. This by witnessing AJ's complete surrender of any of his declarations to address dependency on oil, rights violations of Muslims, Nuclear proliferation, and his supposed epiphany of material wealth and conspicuous consumption with his SUV burned up all rendered moot when given an entry level film deal and a new car albeit with somewhat better mileage and poof there went global pro-activity. And it allowed once again the delusions of Tony and Carmela the idea of success...that AJ is working for an active film production company.exactly one step up above porn now venturing into cheapie torture horror films. Carmela's classic yes make those phone calls and get valuable contacts. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] Sopanos Aftermath
And let's not forget another reason why the Sopranos was great. It left us with 86 shows since 1999 -- and in my view, only about 20 of 'em could be called duds (and even those have to be qualified because they weren't total stinkers). Its detractors rightly were disgusted by the language and sex and other elements, but David Chase created an alternate universe so convincingly that even when you hated to watch, once you did, you were hooked. Any show that allowed us to see the legendary Lauren Bacall get smacked and then deliver an f-bomb with such smoothness and assurance was worth something. Everyone knows Betty Bacall is closer to what we saw in the Sopranos -- than our idealized version of her in movies. In real life, she swears off camera like a sailor. There were a lot of great episodes and star-turns, but I have to say that that episode, along with College in season 1 and the episodes involving Janice popping her husband after hitting her -- and Ralphie getting killed by Tony in the kitchen, arguing over a HORSE -- stick out in my mind. Oh and before I forget; the singular episode (and probably the only) where Lorraine Bracco got to show her acting chops -- after she's sexually attacked and has to decide whether, when she sees her assailant later, to tell Tony to help her exact revenge. Just a great show... -koose. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Sopanos Aftermath
hi all, im a fairly new mopo'er... why are TV shows being discussed here? is this common practice to vere SO far off the topic in the public forum? wouldn't it be better if these discussions/emails were done between listers--privately-- that wanted or cared about these shows or topics? thanks. jeff On Jun 10, 2007, at 9:52 PM, David Kusumoto wrote: And let's not forget another reason why the Sopranos was great. It left us with 86 shows since 1999 -- and in my view, only about 20 of 'em could be called duds (and even those have to be qualified because they weren't total stinkers). Its detractors rightly were disgusted by the language and sex and other elements, but David Chase created an alternate universe so convincingly that even when you hated to watch, once you did, you were hooked. Any show that allowed us to see the legendary Lauren Bacall get smacked and then deliver an f-bomb with such smoothness and assurance was worth something. Everyone knows Betty Bacall is closer to what we saw in the Sopranos -- than our idealized version of her in movies. In real life, she swears off camera like a sailor. There were a lot of great episodes and star-turns, but I have to say that that episode, along with College in season 1 and the episodes involving Janice popping her husband after hitting her -- and Ralphie getting killed by Tony in the kitchen, arguing over a HORSE -- stick out in my mind. Oh and before I forget; the singular episode (and probably the only) where Lorraine Bracco got to show her acting chops -- after she's sexually attacked and has to decide whether, when she sees her assailant later, to tell Tony to help her exact revenge. Just a great show... -koose. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Sopanos Aftermath
I agree. The ending was, in my opinion, the T.S. Eliot ending: not with a bang but a whimper. We loved it. Kirby McDaniel MovieArt On Jun 10, 2007, at 11:52 PM, David Kusumoto wrote: And let's not forget another reason why the Sopranos was great. It left us with 86 shows since 1999 -- and in my view, only about 20 of 'em could be called duds (and even those have to be qualified because they weren't total stinkers). Its detractors rightly were disgusted by the language and sex and other elements, but David Chase created an alternate universe so convincingly that even when you hated to watch, once you did, you were hooked. Any show that allowed us to see the legendary Lauren Bacall get smacked and then deliver an f-bomb with such smoothness and assurance was worth something. Everyone knows Betty Bacall is closer to what we saw in the Sopranos -- than our idealized version of her in movies. In real life, she swears off camera like a sailor. There were a lot of great episodes and star-turns, but I have to say that that episode, along with College in season 1 and the episodes involving Janice popping her husband after hitting her -- and Ralphie getting killed by Tony in the kitchen, arguing over a HORSE -- stick out in my mind. Oh and before I forget; the singular episode (and probably the only) where Lorraine Bracco got to show her acting chops -- after she's sexually attacked and has to decide whether, when she sees her assailant later, to tell Tony to help her exact revenge. Just a great show... -koose. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Sopanos Aftermath
MOPO has allowed some off topic stuff - and occasionally we've gotten off the range, but most of the members are pretty good at self-governance. And we have a brilliant shepherd - Scott - who administers the whole thing. Whenever I post something other than movie poster patter, I label it OFF TOPIC, and I try to keep it in the neighborhood. Kirby McDaniel On Jun 11, 2007, at 12:04 AM, JEFF POTOKAR wrote: hi all, im a fairly new mopo'er... why are TV shows being discussed here? is this common practice to vere SO far off the topic in the public forum? wouldn't it be better if these discussions/emails were done between listers--privately-- that wanted or cared about these shows or topics? thanks. jeff On Jun 10, 2007, at 9:52 PM, David Kusumoto wrote: And let's not forget another reason why the Sopranos was great. It left us with 86 shows since 1999 -- and in my view, only about 20 of 'em could be called duds (and even those have to be qualified because they weren't total stinkers). Its detractors rightly were disgusted by the language and sex and other elements, but David Chase created an alternate universe so convincingly that even when you hated to watch, once you did, you were hooked. Any show that allowed us to see the legendary Lauren Bacall get smacked and then deliver an f-bomb with such smoothness and assurance was worth something. Everyone knows Betty Bacall is closer to what we saw in the Sopranos -- than our idealized version of her in movies. In real life, she swears off camera like a sailor. There were a lot of great episodes and star-turns, but I have to say that that episode, along with College in season 1 and the episodes involving Janice popping her husband after hitting her -- and Ralphie getting killed by Tony in the kitchen, arguing over a HORSE -- stick out in my mind. Oh and before I forget; the singular episode (and probably the only) where Lorraine Bracco got to show her acting chops -- after she's sexually attacked and has to decide whether, when she sees her assailant later, to tell Tony to help her exact revenge. Just a great show... -koose. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Sopanos Aftermath
Watch for Soprano the movie. Dario. David Kusumoto wrote: And let's not forget another reason why the Sopranos was great. It left us with 86 shows since 1999 -- and in my view, only about 20 of 'em could be called duds (and even those have to be qualified because they weren't total stinkers). Its detractors rightly were disgusted by the language and sex and other elements, but David Chase created an alternate universe so convincingly that even when you hated to watch, once you did, you were hooked. Any show that allowed us to see the legendary Lauren Bacall get smacked and then deliver an f-bomb with such smoothness and assurance was worth something. Everyone knows Betty Bacall is closer to what we saw in the Sopranos -- than our idealized version of her in movies. In real life, she swears off camera like a sailor. There were a lot of great episodes and star-turns, but I have to say that that episode, along with College in season 1 and the episodes involving Janice popping her husband after hitting her -- and Ralphie getting killed by Tony in the kitchen, arguing over a HORSE -- stick out in my mind. Oh and before I forget; the singular episode (and probably the only) where Lorraine Bracco got to show her acting chops -- after she's sexually attacked and has to decide whether, when she sees her assailant later, to tell Tony to help her exact revenge. Just a great show... -koose. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
