[MOPO] A HUGE AUCTION ON THE HORIZON SET PHASERS TO STUN
July 6, 2006 It's an Auction, Jim, but Not as We Know It By JAMES BARRON The stuff of "Star Trek" — uniforms, communicators and other props, including pointy rubber ears — has boldly gone to a place where the intrepid crew never took the Enterprise: the Bronx. In a windowless warehouse in Crotona Park East, boxes of "Star Trek" memorabilia that were shipped from the part of the galaxy known as Hollywood are being cataloged and photographed. The catalogers and photographers work for Christie's, the auction house that more often handles impressionists and old masters. The trove will be sold for dollars. Not Federation credits. So, hanging on one coat rack in the warehouse are Klingon costumes. On another are the Enterprise crew's uniforms, even William Shatner's uniform. "It's a great" — long pause — "leisure suit," said Cathy Elkies, the Christie's official overseeing the sale. "Star Trek" fans are passionate. They attend conventions. They know "Star Trek V: The Final Frontier" and "Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country." They correct dumb mistakes, no matter how obscure, in any articles having anything to do with "Star Trek." They take the idea of being a fan to extremes, and proudly so. And they are not Christie's usual crowd. No one dressed as a Klingon was in attendance when Christie's sold the dress Marilyn Monroe wore when she sashayed into Madison Square Garden and sang "Happy Birthday" to President John F. Kennedy. So when Christie's marketers asked Ms. Elkies who was the intended audience for the sale, which is scheduled for Oct. 5-7, she did not have a ready answer. "I had to say, I really don't know," she said. That is partly because so few actual props from the various television series and films have been sold before. The items in the sale had been stored in warehouses, some since the original 1960's television series went off the air. But after the cancellation of the UPN prequel "Star Trek: Enterprise" last year, Paramount decided to lighten its holdings. Now Christie's is preparing descriptions for each item — descriptions that are decidedly different from the ones usually found in Christie's catalogs. Consider this one, for a pair of items that Christie's expects to sell for $1,000 to $1,500: "Two tribbles of imitation fur stuffed with foam rubber, one gray and black, the other white, gray and brown." Tribbles were small life forms that reproduced at remarkable rates, according to Memory-Alpha.org, one of many sites on the Web devoted to "Star Trek." Christie's says this pair was used in the "Deep Space Nine" episode "Trials and Tribble-ations" and also in a "Star Trek: Enterprise" episode. Ms. Elkies said she was approaching the sale in "a democratic way" — meaning, she explained, "We are pricing it so there will be something for everyone." She said there would be items with estimated prices of $200 or so. But the estimates on some items are far higher. Christie's expects to sell a model of the Starship Enterprise-A, made from a plastic hobby kit and used on "Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country" in 1991, for $15,000 to $25,000. According to the Memory-Alpha site, the Enterprise-A had made its debut in "Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home" and had gone on a surprisingly speedy journey to the center of the galaxy in "Star Trek V: The Final Frontier." Christie's also has a model of a Work Bee, which, according to Memory-Alpha, was "a small utility craft in use by the Federation since the mid-23rd century." Ms. Elkies said this one was used in the drydock sequences in "Star Trek: The Motion Picture" and also in the main title sequence of "Deep Space Nine." Christie's estimates that it will sell for $6,000 to $8,000 at the auction. Ms. Elkies said she was impressed by the craftsmanship of the costumes and props. "If you see something on TV, you don't think there's a backside to it," she said. "But you see these things and you realize how much time and labor went into each object." The Starfleet officer Worf's silver rifle "almost looks like an Uzi," Ms. Elkies said, lifting it off the shelf, "and it's heavy." And then there was the Xindi alien in the stasis chamber from the series "Enterprise." The stasis chamber was a clear plastic cylinder. The Xindi alien was a yellow figure about the size of a 5-year-old child, with wires attached to places that, on a human, would be painful if attached without anesthetic. Ms. Elkies was not a major "Star Trek" fan before she started to organize the sale. She got her baptism in "Star Trek" mania when she went to a convention in Germany in May. "The funny part was, I couldn't always tell if it was German or Klingon that they were speaking," she said. At 41, she was a small child when "Star Trek" originally went on the air. "I think it was so different than anything else that was on," she said. "Remember, we had five channels back then, so we weren't inundated with
Re: [MOPO] A HUGE AUCTION ON THE HORIZON SET PHASERS TO STUN
Title: Re: [MOPO] A HUGE AUCTION ON THE HORIZONSET PHASERS TO Christie's will produce a two-volume catalog, priced at $90, and there's a special for all you hardcore-trekkies out there: $500 will get you a special limited edition box set. Both available in August. Helmut It's an Auction, Jim, but Not as We Know It By JAMES BARRON The stuff of Star Trek uniforms, communicators and other props, including pointy rubber ears has boldly gone to a place where the intrepid crew never took the Enterprise: the Bronx. In a windowless warehouse in Crotona Park East, boxes of Star Trek memorabilia that were shipped from the part of the galaxy known as Hollywood are being cataloged and photographed. The catalogers and photographers work for Christie's, the auction house that more often handles impressionists and old masters. The trove will be sold for dollars. Not Federation credits. So, hanging on one coat rack in the warehouse are Klingon costumes. On another are the Enterprise crew's uniforms, even William Shatner's uniform. It's a great long pause leisure suit, said Cathy Elkies, the Christie's official overseeing the sale. Star Trek fans are passionate. They attend conventions. They know Star Trek V: The Final Frontier and Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country. They correct dumb mistakes, no matter how obscure, in any articles having anything to do with Star Trek. They take the idea of being a fan to extremes, and proudly so. And they are not Christie's usual crowd. No one dressed as a Klingon was in attendance when Christie's sold the dress Marilyn Monroe wore when she sashayed into Madison Square Garden and sang Happy Birthday to President John F. Kennedy. So when Christie's marketers asked Ms. Elkies who was the intended audience for the sale, which is scheduled for Oct. 5-7, she did not have a ready answer. I had to say, I really don't know, she said. That is partly because so few actual props from the various television series and films have been sold before. The items in the sale had been stored in warehouses, some since the original 1960's television series went off the air. But after the cancellation of the UPN prequel Star Trek: Enterprise last year, Paramount decided to lighten its holdings. Now Christie's is preparing descriptions for each item descriptions that are decidedly different from the ones usually found in Christie's catalogs. Consider this one, for a pair of items that Christie's expects to sell for $1,000 to $1,500: Two tribbles of imitation fur stuffed with foam rubber, one gray and black, the other white, gray and brown. Tribbles were small life forms that reproduced at remarkable rates, according to Memory-Alpha.org, one of many sites on the Web devoted to Star Trek. Christie's says this pair was used in the Deep Space Nine episode Trials and Tribble-ations and also in a Star Trek: Enterprise episode. Ms. Elkies said she was approaching the sale in a democratic way meaning, she explained, We are pricing it so there will be something for everyone. She said there would be items with estimated prices of $200 or so. But the estimates on some items are far higher. Christie's expects to sell a model of the Starship Enterprise-A, made from a plastic hobby kit and used on Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country in 1991, for $15,000 to $25,000. According to the Memory-Alpha site, the Enterprise-A had made its debut in Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home and had gone on a surprisingly speedy journey to the center of the galaxy in Star Trek V: The Final Frontier. Christie's also has a model of a Work Bee, which, according to Memory-Alpha, was a small utility craft in use by the Federation since the mid-23rd century. Ms. Elkies said this one was used in the drydock sequences in Star Trek: The Motion Picture and also in the main title sequence of Deep Space Nine. Christie's estimates that it will sell for $6,000 to $8,000 at the auction. Ms. Elkies said she was impressed by the craftsmanship of the costumes and props. If you see something on TV, you don't think there's a backside to it, she said. But you see these things and you realize how much time and labor went into each object. The Starfleet officer Worf's silver rifle almost looks like an Uzi, Ms. Elkies said, lifting it off the shelf, and it's heavy. And then there was the Xindi alien in the stasis chamber from the series Enterprise. The stasis chamber was a clear plastic cylinder. The Xindi alien was a yellow figure about the size of a 5-year-old child, with wires attached to places that, on a human, would be painful if attached without anesthetic. Ms. Elkies was not a major Star Trek fan before she started to organize the sale. She got her baptism in Star Trek mania when she went to a convention in Germany in May. The funny part was, I couldn't always tell if it was German or Klingon that they were speaking, she said. At 41, she was a small child when Star Trek originally went on the air. I think it was so
Re: [MOPO] A HUGE AUCTION ON THE HORIZON SET PHASERS TO STUN
A three day STAR TREK convention I attended in England in the late 1970s (as a dealer) remains one of the truly great surreal events of my working life. The guy at the table next to me, selling stapled xerox copies of numerous fanzines containing erotic tales of couplings between Kirk and Spock made an absolute fortune. That was where I discovered for the first time the real underbelly of the STAR TREK fandom universe. Phil Helmut Hamm wrote: Christie's will produce a two-volume catalog, priced at $90, and there's a special for all you hardcore-trekkies out there: $500 will get you a special limited edition box set. Both available in August. Helmut *It's an Auction, Jim, but Not as We Know It* By JAMES BARRON http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/b/james_barron/index.html?inline=nyt-per The stuff of Star Trek ‹ uniforms, communicators and other props, including pointy rubber ears ‹ has boldly gone to a place where the intrepid crew never took the Enterprise: the Bronx. In a windowless warehouse in Crotona Park East, boxes of Star Trek memorabilia that were shipped from the part of the galaxy known as Hollywood are being cataloged and photographed. The catalogers and photographers work for Christie's, the auction house that more often handles impressionists and old masters. The trove will be sold for dollars. Not Federation credits. So, hanging on one coat rack in the warehouse are Klingon costumes. On another are the Enterprise crew's uniforms, even William Shatner's uniform. It's a great ‹ long pause ‹ leisure suit, said Cathy Elkies, the Christie's official overseeing the sale. Star Trek fans are passionate. They attend conventions. They know Star Trek V: The Final Frontier and Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country. They correct dumb mistakes, no matter how obscure, in any articles having anything to do with Star Trek. They take the idea of being a fan to extremes, and proudly so. And they are not Christie's usual crowd. No one dressed as a Klingon was in attendance when Christie's sold the dress Marilyn Monroe wore when she sashayed into Madison Square Garden and sang Happy Birthday to President John F. Kennedy. http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/k/john_fitzgerald_kennedy/index.html?inline=nyt-per So when Christie's marketers asked Ms. Elkies who was the intended audience for the sale, which is scheduled for Oct. 5-7, she did not have a ready answer. I had to say, I really don't know, she said. That is partly because so few actual props from the various television series and films have been sold before. The items in the sale had been stored in warehouses, some since the original 1960's television series went off the air. But after the cancellation of the UPN prequel Star Trek: Enterprise last year, Paramount decided to lighten its holdings. Now Christie's is preparing descriptions for each item ‹ descriptions that are decidedly different from the ones usually found in Christie's catalogs. Consider this one, for a pair of items that Christie's expects to sell for $1,000 to $1,500: Two tribbles of imitation fur stuffed with foam rubber, one gray and black, the other white, gray and brown. Tribbles were small life forms that reproduced at remarkable rates, according to Memory-Alpha.org, one of many sites on the Web devoted to Star Trek. Christie's says this pair was used in the Deep Space Nine episode Trials and Tribble-ations and also in a Star Trek: Enterprise episode. http://memory-alpha.org/ Ms. Elkies said she was approaching the sale in a democratic way ‹ meaning, she explained, We are pricing it so there will be something for everyone. She said there would be items with estimated prices of $200 or so. But the estimates on some items are far higher. Christie's expects to sell a model of the Starship Enterprise-A, made from a plastic hobby kit and used on Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country in 1991, for $15,000 to $25,000. According to the Memory-Alpha site, the Enterprise-A had made its debut in Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home and had gone on a surprisingly speedy journey to the center of the galaxy in Star Trek V: The Final Frontier. Christie's also has a model of a Work Bee, which, according to Memory-Alpha, was a small utility craft in use by the Federation since the mid-23rd century. Ms. Elkies said this one was used in the drydock sequences in Star Trek: The Motion Picture and also in the main title sequence of Deep Space Nine. Christie's estimates that it will sell for $6,000 to $8,000 at the auction. Ms. Elkies said she was impressed by the craftsmanship of the costumes and props. If you see something on TV, you don't think there's a backside to it, she said. But you see these things and you realize how much time and labor went into each object. The Starfleet officer Worf's silver rifle almost looks like an Uzi, Ms. Elkies said, lifting it
Re: [MOPO] A HUGE AUCTION ON THE HORIZON SET PHASERS TO STUN
Phil, being in New York during the 60's-84, I was fortunate enough (?) to go to the first Star Trek conventions ever and the best ones ever as well. Of course I was a dealer at all of them and from the dealer perspective - they changed from the 1970 convention to the mid/late 1970's cons where the fans took on a different form. At the 1970 convention, the fans were what we called freaks - or in other words, Hippies mostly (I was becoming one, but in 1970 I was only 13). It was the first time that an older woman (19) wanted to mess around with me. She had great *tits*. Anyway, by the middle seventies what happened is the fans all became real freaks, and I dont mean hippies. True weirdos who wondered what kind of babies Kirk had with Yeoman Janice Rand - but were really wondering. I remember standing next to a fan who was getting an autograph from George Takei ( 4 of my friends and I had dinner with him one night. Can you believe he would hang with us?) and the fan asked him if I could see Zulu's driver's license, how old would he be? I remember the Saturday Night Live skit with William Shatner and all the idiot questions he was getting from the fans at a show run by Creation con guys and I have to say, these questions were exactly the kind of things these weirdos asked. Trekkies are one strange bunch Rich=== At 02:07 AM 7/6/2006, Phil Edwards Cinema Arts wrote: A three day STAR TREK convention I attended in England in the late 1970s (as a dealer) remains one of the truly great surreal events of my working life. The guy at the table next to me, selling stapled xerox copies of numerous fanzines containing erotic tales of couplings between Kirk and Spock made an absolute fortune. That was where I discovered for the first time the real underbelly of the STAR TREK fandom universe. Phil Helmut Hamm wrote: Christie's will produce a two-volume catalog, priced at $90, and there's a special for all you hardcore-trekkies out there: $500 will get you a special limited edition box set. Both available in August. Helmut *It's an Auction, Jim, but Not as We Know It* By JAMES BARRON http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/b/james_barron/index.html?inline=nyt-per The stuff of Star Trek uniforms, communicators and other props, including pointy rubber ears has boldly gone to a place where the intrepid crew never took the Enterprise: the Bronx. In a windowless warehouse in Crotona Park East, boxes of Star Trek memorabilia that were shipped from the part of the galaxy known as Hollywood are being cataloged and photographed. The catalogers and photographers work for Christie's, the auction house that more often handles impressionists and old masters. The trove will be sold for dollars. Not Federation credits. So, hanging on one coat rack in the warehouse are Klingon costumes. On another are the Enterprise crew's uniforms, even William Shatner's uniform. It's a great long pause leisure suit, said Cathy Elkies, the Christie's official overseeing the sale. Star Trek fans are passionate. They attend conventions. They know Star Trek V: The Final Frontier and Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country. They correct dumb mistakes, no matter how obscure, in any articles having anything to do with Star Trek. They take the idea of being a fan to extremes, and proudly so. And they are not Christie's usual crowd. No one dressed as a Klingon was in attendance when Christie's sold the dress Marilyn Monroe wore when she sashayed into Madison Square Garden and sang Happy Birthday to President John F. Kennedy. http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/k/john_fitzgerald_kennedy/index.html?inline=nyt-per So when Christie's marketers asked Ms. Elkies who was the intended audience for the sale, which is scheduled for Oct. 5-7, she did not have a ready answer. I had to say, I really don't know, she said. That is partly because so few actual props from the various television series and films have been sold before. The items in the sale had been stored in warehouses, some since the original 1960's television series went off the air. But after the cancellation of the UPN prequel Star Trek: Enterprise last year, Paramount decided to lighten its holdings. Now Christie's is preparing descriptions for each item descriptions that are decidedly different from the ones usually found in Christie's catalogs. Consider this one, for a pair of items that Christie's expects to sell for $1,000 to $1,500: Two tribbles of imitation fur stuffed with foam rubber, one gray and black, the other white, gray and brown. Tribbles were small life forms that reproduced at remarkable rates, according to Memory-Alpha.org, one of many sites on the Web devoted to Star Trek. Christie's says this pair was used in the Deep Space Nine episode Trials and Tribble-ations and also in a Star Trek:
Re: [MOPO] A HUGE AUCTION ON THE HORIZON SET PHASERS TO STUN
Haven't been to many, but the last sci-fi convention I was at (yes, as a dealer) a couple of years ago, the trekkies had been displaced by Lord of the Rings freaks in hobbit outfits, with a sprinkling of Stargate types in military gear, a Vader and a couple of Imperial Stormtroopers (it was a small convention). Not a single pair of pointy ears anywhere in sight. I thought the Star Trek phenomenon was pretty much over. Maybe this auction will breathe new life into it. Hope not. Live long and prosper, Dave Posteropolis www.posteropolis.com - Original Message - From: Richard Halegua Comic Art [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 5:53 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] A HUGE AUCTION ON THE HORIZON SET PHASERS TO STUN Phil, being in New York during the 60's-84, I was fortunate enough (?) to go to the first Star Trek conventions ever and the best ones ever as well. Of course I was a dealer at all of them and from the dealer perspective - they changed from the 1970 convention to the mid/late 1970's cons where the fans took on a different form. At the 1970 convention, the fans were what we called freaks - or in other words, Hippies mostly (I was becoming one, but in 1970 I was only 13). It was the first time that an older woman (19) wanted to mess around with me. She had great *tits*. Anyway, by the middle seventies what happened is the fans all became real freaks, and I dont mean hippies. True weirdos who wondered what kind of babies Kirk had with Yeoman Janice Rand - but were really wondering. I remember standing next to a fan who was getting an autograph from George Takei ( 4 of my friends and I had dinner with him one night. Can you believe he would hang with us?) and the fan asked him if I could see Zulu's driver's license, how old would he be? I remember the Saturday Night Live skit with William Shatner and all the idiot questions he was getting from the fans at a show run by Creation con guys and I have to say, these questions were exactly the kind of things these weirdos asked. Trekkies are one strange bunch Rich=== At 02:07 AM 7/6/2006, Phil Edwards Cinema Arts wrote: A three day STAR TREK convention I attended in England in the late 1970s (as a dealer) remains one of the truly great surreal events of my working life. The guy at the table next to me, selling stapled xerox copies of numerous fanzines containing erotic tales of couplings between Kirk and Spock made an absolute fortune. That was where I discovered for the first time the real underbelly of the STAR TREK fandom universe. Phil Helmut Hamm wrote: Christie's will produce a two-volume catalog, priced at $90, and there's a special for all you hardcore-trekkies out there: $500 will get you a special limited edition box set. Both available in August. Helmut *It's an Auction, Jim, but Not as We Know It* By JAMES BARRON http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/b/james_barro n/index.html?inline=nyt-per The stuff of Star Trek uniforms, communicators and other props, including pointy rubber ears has boldly gone to a place where the intrepid crew never took the Enterprise: the Bronx. In a windowless warehouse in Crotona Park East, boxes of Star Trek memorabilia that were shipped from the part of the galaxy known as Hollywood are being cataloged and photographed. The catalogers and photographers work for Christie's, the auction house that more often handles impressionists and old masters. The trove will be sold for dollars. Not Federation credits. So, hanging on one coat rack in the warehouse are Klingon costumes. On another are the Enterprise crew's uniforms, even William Shatner's uniform. It's a great long pause leisure suit, said Cathy Elkies, the Christie's official overseeing the sale. Star Trek fans are passionate. They attend conventions. They know Star Trek V: The Final Frontier and Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country. They correct dumb mistakes, no matter how obscure, in any articles having anything to do with Star Trek. They take the idea of being a fan to extremes, and proudly so. And they are not Christie's usual crowd. No one dressed as a Klingon was in attendance when Christie's sold the dress Marilyn Monroe wore when she sashayed into Madison Square Garden and sang Happy Birthday to President John F. Kennedy. http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/k/john_fitzge rald_kennedy/index.html?inline=nyt-per So when Christie's marketers asked Ms. Elkies who was the intended audience for the sale, which is scheduled for Oct. 5-7, she did not have a ready answer. I had to say, I really don't know, she said. That is partly because so few actual props from the various television series and films have been sold before. The items in the sale had been stored in warehouses, some since the original 1960's television series went off the air. But after the cancellation of the UPN prequel Star Trek: Enterprise last year,
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Dave, From what I understand, Star Trek fandom actually grew too big for the regular science fiction conventions and started staging their own. I believe the only reason you didn't see any at the convention you went to is that they no longer bother with regular science fiction conventions and focus on their own. As far as I know that particular fandom is still going strong (but I don't want to get close enough to know for sure... :) -- JR - Original Message - From: Dave Rosen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 8:03 Subject: Re: [MOPO] A HUGE AUCTION ON THE HORIZON SET PHASERS TO STUN Haven't been to many, but the last sci-fi convention I was at (yes, as a dealer) a couple of years ago, the trekkies had been displaced by Lord of the Rings freaks in hobbit outfits, with a sprinkling of Stargate types in military gear, a Vader and a couple of Imperial Stormtroopers (it was a small convention). Not a single pair of pointy ears anywhere in sight. I thought the Star Trek phenomenon was pretty much over. Maybe this auction will breathe new life into it. Hope not. Live long and prosper, Dave Posteropolis www.posteropolis.com Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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At 11:16 AM 7/6/2006, JR wrote: Dave, From what I understand, Star Trek fandom actually grew too big for the regular science fiction conventions and started staging their own. I believe the only reason you didn't see any at the convention you went to is that they no longer bother with regular science fiction conventions and focus on their own. As far as I know that particular fandom is still going strong (but I don't want to get close enough to know for sure... :) -- JR JR. this is only partially true the first (actual) trek con took place in NYC in 1970. It was run by a named Joe (?) Shuster and was a pretty wild show as mentioned in my previous email. He ran one more in 1971 1972 when a publishing business he was in bankrupted him and he couldn't do the show in 1973. By this time Creation conventions had been running comic book shows for a few years (Adam Malin Gary Berman started running shows at 15!) and sometime during the middle 70's they ran one focused on Trek which did very well for them. They continued running the combination comic/media shows for a few more years and about 1978-79 they split the shows off (comic people didn't like Trekkies - they never spent any and were pretty much major dorks). From about 1985 on, Creation has run pretty much just Trek shows and I believe they have one here in Vegas every year, but they almost never do any ads, so by the time I hear about them - they're over Rich= Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] A HUGE AUCTION ON THE HORIZON SET PHASERS TO STUN
HELLOOO What do YOU MEAN BY "Trekkies" are one strange bunch What about us ? -Original Message-From: Richard Halegua Comic Art [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUSent: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 02:53:03 -0700Subject: Re: [MOPO] A HUGE AUCTION ON THE HORIZON SET PHASERS TO STUN Phil, being in New York during the 60's-84, I was fortunate enough (?) to go to the first Star Trek conventions ever and the best ones ever as well. Of course I was a dealer at all of them and from the dealer perspective - they changed from the 1970 convention to the mid/late 1970's cons where the fans took on a different form. At the 1970 convention, the fans were what we called "freaks" - or in other words, Hippies mostly (I was becoming one, but in 1970 I was only 13). It was the first time that an older woman (19) wanted to mess around with me. She had great *tits*.Anyway, by the middle seventies what happened is the fans all became real freaks, and I dont mean hippies. True weirdos who wondered what kind of babies Kirk had with Yeoman Janice Rand - but were really wondering. I remember standing next to a fan who was getting an autograph from George Takei ( 4 of my friends and I had dinner with him one night. Can you believe he would hang with us?) and the fan asked him "if I could see Zulu's driver's license, how old would he be?"I remember the Saturday Night Live skit with William Shatner and all the idiot questions he was getting from the fans at a show run by Creation con guys and I have to say, these questions were exactly the kind of things these weirdos asked."Trekkies" are one strange bunchRich===At 02:07 AM 7/6/2006, Phil Edwards Cinema Arts wrote:A three day STAR TREK convention I attended in England in the late 1970s (as a dealer) remains one of the truly great surreal events of my working life.The guy at the table next to me, selling stapled xerox copies of numerous fanzines containing erotic tales of couplings between Kirk and Spock made an absolute fortune.That was where I discovered for the first time the real underbelly of the STAR TREK fandom universe.PhilHelmut Hamm wrote:Christie's will produce a two-volume catalog, priced at $90, and there's a special for all you hardcore-trekkies out there: $500 will get you a special limited edition box set. Both available in August.Helmut*It's an Auction, Jim, but Not as We Know It*By JAMES BARRONhttp://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/b/james_barron/index.html?inline=nyt-perThe stuff of "Star Trek" ‹ uniforms, communicators and other props, including pointy rubber ears ‹ has boldly gone to a place where the intrepid crew never took the Enterprise: the Bronx.In a windowless warehouse in Crotona Park East, boxes of "Star Trek" memorabilia that were shipped from the part of the galaxy known as Hollywood are being cataloged and photographed. The catalogers and photographers work for Christie's, the auction house that more often handles impressionists and old masters.The trove will be sold for dollars. Not Federation credits.So, hanging on one coat rack in the warehouse are Klingon costumes. On another are the Enterprise crew's uniforms, even William Shatner's uniform. "It's a great" ‹ long pause ‹ "leisure suit," said Cathy Elkies, the Christie's official overseeing the sale."Star Trek" fans are passionate. They attend conventions. They know "Star Trek V: The Final Frontier" and "Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country." They correct dumb mistakes, no matter how obscure, in any articles having anything to do with "Star Trek." They take the idea of being a fan to extremes, and proudly so. And they are not Christie's usual crowd. No one dressed as a Klingon was in attendance when Christie's sold the dress Marilyn Monroe wore when she sashayed into Madison Square Garden and sang "Happy Birthday" to President John F. Kennedy. http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/k/john_fitzgerald_kennedy/index.html?inline=nyt-perSo when Christie's marketers asked Ms. Elkies who was the intended audience for the sale, which is scheduled for Oct. 5-7, she did not have a ready answer. "I had to say, I really don't know," she said.That is partly because so few actual props from the various television series and films have been sold before. The items in the sale had been stored in warehouses, some since the original 1960's television series went off the air. But after the cancellation of the UPN prequel "Star Trek: Enterprise" last year, Paramount decided to lighten its holdings.Now Christie's is preparing descriptions for each item ‹ descriptions that are decidedly different from the ones usually found in Christie's catalogs.Consider this one, for a pair of items that Christie's expects to sell for $1,000 to $1,500: "Two tribbles of imitation fur stuffed with foam rubber, one gray and black, the other white, gray and brown."Tribbles were small life forms that reproduced at
Re: [MOPO] A HUGE AUCTION ON THE HORIZON SET PHASERS TO STUN
Rich, Maybe... but if so, why is Christie's staging this huge auction of Trekabilia? -- JR - Original Message - From: Richard Halegua Comic Art [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 16:13 Subject: Re: [MOPO] A HUGE AUCTION ON THE HORIZON SET PHASERS TO STUN At 11:16 AM 7/6/2006, JR wrote: Dave, From what I understand, Star Trek fandom actually grew too big for the regular science fiction conventions and started staging their own. I believe the only reason you didn't see any at the convention you went to is that they no longer bother with regular science fiction conventions and focus on their own. As far as I know that particular fandom is still going strong (but I don't want to get close enough to know for sure... :) -- JR JR. this is only partially true the first (actual) trek con took place in NYC in 1970. It was run by a named Joe (?) Shuster and was a pretty wild show as mentioned in my previous email. He ran one more in 1971 1972 when a publishing business he was in bankrupted him and he couldn't do the show in 1973. By this time Creation conventions had been running comic book shows for a few years (Adam Malin Gary Berman started running shows at 15!) and sometime during the middle 70's they ran one focused on Trek which did very well for them. They continued running the combination comic/media shows for a few more years and about 1978-79 they split the shows off (comic people didn't like Trekkies - they never spent any and were pretty much major dorks). From about 1985 on, Creation has run pretty much just Trek shows and I believe they have one here in Vegas every year, but they almost never do any ads, so by the time I hear about them - they're over Rich= Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
