Re: [MOPO] To back or not to back . . .
I just caught wind of this conversation. I've been experimenting the past year or so with paperbacking using mulberry paper, AKA Kozo, AKA Rice Paper and it is absolutely lovely... I've paperbacked photo stills, lobbies, inserts, daybills, quad crowns etc. with it. IMO the best backing method for conservation-minded collectors. You still have to prescribe to conservative adhesives but yes it is translucent and you can see and markings etc. on the back of a poster - NSS numbers in grease pencil for example. I had started a thread on VMPF a while back and updated it for reference if you want to know more or just send me an e-mail. http://vintagemoviepostersforum.com/discussion/1428/paperbacking-101#latest From: MoPo List <mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> on behalf of Helmut Hamm <texasmu...@web.de> Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 7:05 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] To back or not to back . . . I have found that posters that I had backed by some restorers have deteriorated over the years, developing foxing and other issues. Some of these posters now need to be rebacked. I had the same experience, fortunately only with a single onesheet that I bought from a major dealer in the mid-90s. It looked great when I bought it. I framed it and it turned to absolute horrible a few years later. These days, I very much prefer backing on japanese rice paper, and only for posters that actually need preservation. This process requires a lot more skill than linenbacking, so it is usually done by high-skilled professional. From what I know, the few people in the US who can do it mainly work for the museums and/or are ridiculously expensive. Rice paper backing results in a poster that still feels like a poster, and any restoration or paper replacement can be easily detected from the backside. Helmut To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L=1 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] To back or not to back . . .
> I have found that posters that I had backed by some restorers have > deteriorated over the years, developing foxing and other issues. Some of > these posters now need to be rebacked. I had the same experience, fortunately only with a single onesheet that I bought from a major dealer in the mid-90s. It looked great when I bought it. I framed it and it turned to absolute horrible a few years later. These days, I very much prefer backing on japanese rice paper, and only for posters that actually need preservation. This process requires a lot more skill than linenbacking, so it is usually done by high-skilled professional. From what I know, the few people in the US who can do it mainly work for the museums and/or are ridiculously expensive. Rice paper backing results in a poster that still feels like a poster, and any restoration or paper replacement can be easily detected from the backside. Helmut Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] To back or not to back . . .
I had a few hundred posters backed many years ago but rarely get anything backed these days. I have found that posters that I had backed by some restorers have deteriorated over the years, developing foxing and other issues. Some of these posters now need to be rebacked. I wrote two detailed articles about some of the pitfalls of linen backing that might be of interest http://www.ozefilm.com/linen-backed-movie-posters/ and here . http://www.ozefilm.com/linen-backing-movie-posters/ Regards John John Reid PO Box 92 Elanora Qld 4221 Australia Phone: 0414 720 369 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] To back or not to back . . .
Hi Scott , the problem is that a lot of linenbacked posters were linenbacked because of condition , in order to restore with the linenbacking itself not being the goal . It's not automatic but at least here in france for the majority of french linenbacked posters i have seen linenbacking was done because of damage (loss , fragile folds , discoloration) especially for posters that were linenbacked in the 70s/early 80s more damage was done in poorly backing and a very approximative restoration ... even nowadays there are some horrible linenbackers/restorers here in france I used to work with Thierry Billard , a VERY talented restorer but due to his work with a museum he got totally overbooked , i then tried to have some of my posters linenbacked by several french backers , a total disaster ! i ended up sending my posters to the states ! Last french backer/restorer i worked with , a guy named Fouasse managed to totally mess up all posters i send him , on top of being a lot more expensive then anyone i've ever worked with , a friend of mine in spain send him several posters , same story ... as for your belgian posters , if they're fragile then a good linenbacking will of course preserve them ... that said i have thousands of really old belgian posters and none of them have age catching up ... filip From: MoPo List <mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> on behalf of Scott Burns <s...@columbus.rr.com> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 5:06 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] To back or not to back . . . Sounds like we have few fans of backing so far… But what if the poster is on really fragile paper? I have some Belgian posters that are in decent shape (no paper loss, no image damage), but age is catching up with them and the paper is starting to become brittle. Wouldn’t it be wise to get these de-acidified and backed to insure their longevity? Is the real issue here the fact that in a future sale potential buyers will question whether the poster has had restoration work done? I didn’t think linen backing was an automatic signal restoration was done on the poster. Maybe some of our dealers can shed some light. Also concerning restoration work…anyone had any experience with lobby card restoration? I have a couple of lobby’s that are in less-than-stellar condition, mainly a little dirty, some slight creases and the paper has noticeably darkened. Can a good restorer do anything with these? Can lobby cards be linen backed? I can’t recall ever having seen one. Thanks, Scott MoPo List Owner From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Michael Greenwood Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 5:59 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] To back or not to back . . . Hello No. Why would you want to do that?! If there is extensive physical damage you want corrected or you find the fold lines unbearably distracting, then go for it. Otherwise, just get them framed for sure. The extra process and cost is completely unnecessary and things can go wrong between the poster leaving your nice place and coming back, backed by somebody who may not be as skilled as advertised or was in a rush and had a bad day. It's a risk and unless you love living on the edge, I'd vote against backing time and time again. M From: MoPo List <mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU<mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>> on behalf of Tommy Barr <tommymb...@gmail.com<mailto:tommymb...@gmail.com>> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 10:11 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU<mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> Subject: [MOPO] To back or not to back . . . that is the question, so looking for some advice. I have a small Czech poster of Cabaret and an English double crown of Deer Hunter (Russian roulette style) both in excellent condition, but the paper is quite flimsy. Should I get these backed for framing? Tommy To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L=1 To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L=1 To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L=1 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] To back or not to back . . .
Scott, in my opinion, the biggest problem is the entire lack of documentation. In this digital age, it would not be much of a challenge to take before and after photos of every poster during the linenbacking process. Then again, most dealers do not have any interest in that, linenbackers usually don't care and collectors never demanded it. Personally, I avoid buying linenbacked posters whenever possible. There's way too much horrible restoration work out there. Once a poster begins to disintegrate, it should certainly be backed, if you want to save it. A long time ago, I collected Mexican movie posters (mostly for Mexican horror and wrestling movies) and I had all the best one pre-1975 paperbacked, as the super thin paper stock was so acidic, the posters would fall to pieces without any outside influence. Helmut > Am 23.06.2017 um 17:06 schrieb Scott Burns <s...@columbus.rr.com>: > > Sounds like we have few fans of backing so far… > > But what if the poster is on really fragile paper? I have some Belgian > posters that are in decent shape (no paper loss, no image damage), but age is > catching up with them and the paper is starting to become brittle. Wouldn’t > it be wise to get these de-acidified and backed to insure their longevity? > > Is the real issue here the fact that in a future sale potential buyers will > question whether the poster has had restoration work done? I didn’t think > linen backing was an automatic signal restoration was done on the poster. > Maybe some of our dealers can shed some light. > > Also concerning restoration work…anyone had any experience with lobby card > restoration? I have a couple of lobby’s that are in less-than-stellar > condition, mainly a little dirty, some slight creases and the paper has > noticeably darkened. Can a good restorer do anything with these? Can lobby > cards be linen backed? I can’t recall ever having seen one. > > Thanks, > Scott > MoPo List Owner > > From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU > <mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>] On Behalf Of Michael Greenwood > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 5:59 PM > To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU <mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> > Subject: Re: [MOPO] To back or not to back . . . > > > Hello > > No. Why would you want to do that?! If there is extensive physical damage you > want corrected or you find the fold lines unbearably distracting, then go for > it. Otherwise, just get them framed for sure. The extra process and cost is > completely unnecessary and things can go wrong between the poster leaving > your nice place and coming back, backed by somebody who may not be as skilled > as advertised or was in a rush and had a bad day. It's a risk and unless you > love living on the edge, I'd vote against backing time and time again. > > M > > From: MoPo List <mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU > <mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>> on behalf of Tommy Barr > <tommymb...@gmail.com <mailto:tommymb...@gmail.com>> > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 10:11 AM > To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU <mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> > Subject: [MOPO] To back or not to back . . . > > that is the question, so looking for some advice. I have a small Czech poster > of Cabaret and an English double crown of Deer Hunter (Russian roulette > style) both in excellent condition, but the paper is quite flimsy. Should I > get these backed for framing? > > Tommy > > To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: > https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L=1 > <https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L=1> > > To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: > https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L=1 > <https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L=1> > To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: > https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L=1 > <https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L=1> Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] To back or not to back . . .
That's what meant / my lobby cards were paper backed On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 11:23 AM jeffrey walton <jeffrey.wal...@gmail.com> wrote: > I happen to love linen backed posters - much easier to frame and handle > especially on the larger formats. > > I have the eye poster from 2001 and in great condition and I thought long > and hard to keep it as is or have it lb, I decided not to have it backed > and now that it is framed I wish I had > > And I have a few lobby cards that were linen backed and restored because > they were in rough shape > > On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 11:06 AM Scott Burns <s...@columbus.rr.com> wrote: > >> Sounds like we have few fans of backing so far… >> >> >> >> But what if the poster is on really fragile paper? I have some Belgian >> posters that are in decent shape (no paper loss, no image damage), but age >> is catching up with them and the paper is starting to become brittle. >> Wouldn’t it be wise to get these de-acidified and backed to insure their >> longevity? >> >> >> Is the real issue here the fact that in a future sale potential buyers >> will question whether the poster has had restoration work done? I didn’t >> think linen backing was an automatic signal restoration was done on the >> poster. Maybe some of our dealers can shed some light. >> >> >> >> Also concerning restoration work…anyone had any experience with lobby >> card restoration? I have a couple of lobby’s that are in less-than-stellar >> condition, mainly a little dirty, some slight creases and the paper has >> noticeably darkened. Can a good restorer do anything with these? Can lobby >> cards be linen backed? I can’t recall ever having seen one. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Scott >> >> MoPo List Owner >> >> >> >> *From:* MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] *On Behalf Of >> *Michael >> Greenwood >> *Sent:* Thursday, June 22, 2017 5:59 PM >> *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU >> *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] To back or not to back . . . >> >> >> >> >> >> Hello >> >> >> >> No. Why would you want to do that?! If there is extensive physical damage >> you want corrected or you find the fold lines unbearably distracting, then >> go for it. Otherwise, just get them framed for sure. The extra process and >> cost is completely unnecessary and things can go wrong between the poster >> leaving your nice place and coming back, backed by somebody who may not be >> as skilled as advertised or was in a rush and had a bad day. It's a risk >> and unless you love living on the edge, I'd vote against backing time and >> time again. >> >> >> >> M >> >> >> -- >> >> *From:* MoPo List <mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> on behalf of Tommy Barr >> <tommymb...@gmail.com> >> *Sent:* Thursday, June 22, 2017 10:11 AM >> *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU >> *Subject:* [MOPO] To back or not to back . . . >> >> >> >> that is the question, so looking for some advice. I have a small Czech >> poster of Cabaret and an English double crown of Deer Hunter (Russian >> roulette style) both in excellent condition, but the paper is quite flimsy. >> Should I get these backed for framing? >> >> >> >> Tommy >> >> >> -- >> >> To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: >> https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L=1 >> >> >> -- >> >> To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: >> https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L=1 >> >> -- >> >> To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: >> https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L=1 >> > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] To back or not to back . . .
I happen to love linen backed posters - much easier to frame and handle especially on the larger formats. I have the eye poster from 2001 and in great condition and I thought long and hard to keep it as is or have it lb, I decided not to have it backed and now that it is framed I wish I had And I have a few lobby cards that were linen backed and restored because they were in rough shape On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 11:06 AM Scott Burns <s...@columbus.rr.com> wrote: > Sounds like we have few fans of backing so far… > > > > But what if the poster is on really fragile paper? I have some Belgian > posters that are in decent shape (no paper loss, no image damage), but age > is catching up with them and the paper is starting to become brittle. > Wouldn’t it be wise to get these de-acidified and backed to insure their > longevity? > > > Is the real issue here the fact that in a future sale potential buyers > will question whether the poster has had restoration work done? I didn’t > think linen backing was an automatic signal restoration was done on the > poster. Maybe some of our dealers can shed some light. > > > > Also concerning restoration work…anyone had any experience with lobby card > restoration? I have a couple of lobby’s that are in less-than-stellar > condition, mainly a little dirty, some slight creases and the paper has > noticeably darkened. Can a good restorer do anything with these? Can lobby > cards be linen backed? I can’t recall ever having seen one. > > > > Thanks, > > Scott > > MoPo List Owner > > > > *From:* MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Michael > Greenwood > *Sent:* Thursday, June 22, 2017 5:59 PM > *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU > *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] To back or not to back . . . > > > > > > Hello > > > > No. Why would you want to do that?! If there is extensive physical damage > you want corrected or you find the fold lines unbearably distracting, then > go for it. Otherwise, just get them framed for sure. The extra process and > cost is completely unnecessary and things can go wrong between the poster > leaving your nice place and coming back, backed by somebody who may not be > as skilled as advertised or was in a rush and had a bad day. It's a risk > and unless you love living on the edge, I'd vote against backing time and > time again. > > > > M > > > -- > > *From:* MoPo List <mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> on behalf of Tommy Barr < > tommymb...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, June 22, 2017 10:11 AM > *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU > *Subject:* [MOPO] To back or not to back . . . > > > > that is the question, so looking for some advice. I have a small Czech > poster of Cabaret and an English double crown of Deer Hunter (Russian > roulette style) both in excellent condition, but the paper is quite flimsy. > Should I get these backed for framing? > > > > Tommy > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: > https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L=1 > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: > https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L=1 > > -- > > To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: > https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L=1 > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] To back or not to back . . .
Hi Scott and all - Thought it might be helpful to chime in regarding this linen backing/restoration thread: For linen backed posters, if you hold up the poster with really good sun light coming through, any restoration work ( holes, missing paper etc) should be clearly visible. I am sure some of you know this. For lobby cards, they would not be linen backed. In worse cases, they would be paper backed with major restoration. Generally, what we do with lobby cards is to clean ( sometimes just surface) or a washing, fill pin holes and do some light touch up. Goal here, is to leave them as natural as possible, just some "sprucing up". Of, course they can be deacidified too. Let me know any questions, am happy to answer. Diane Studio C From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Scott Burns Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 8:06 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] To back or not to back . . . Sounds like we have few fans of backing so far. But what if the poster is on really fragile paper? I have some Belgian posters that are in decent shape (no paper loss, no image damage), but age is catching up with them and the paper is starting to become brittle. Wouldn't it be wise to get these de-acidified and backed to insure their longevity? Is the real issue here the fact that in a future sale potential buyers will question whether the poster has had restoration work done? I didn't think linen backing was an automatic signal restoration was done on the poster. Maybe some of our dealers can shed some light. Also concerning restoration work.anyone had any experience with lobby card restoration? I have a couple of lobby's that are in less-than-stellar condition, mainly a little dirty, some slight creases and the paper has noticeably darkened. Can a good restorer do anything with these? Can lobby cards be linen backed? I can't recall ever having seen one. Thanks, Scott MoPo List Owner From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Michael Greenwood Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 5:59 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU <mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> Subject: Re: [MOPO] To back or not to back . . . Hello No. Why would you want to do that?! If there is extensive physical damage you want corrected or you find the fold lines unbearably distracting, then go for it. Otherwise, just get them framed for sure. The extra process and cost is completely unnecessary and things can go wrong between the poster leaving your nice place and coming back, backed by somebody who may not be as skilled as advertised or was in a rush and had a bad day. It's a risk and unless you love living on the edge, I'd vote against backing time and time again. M _ From: MoPo List <mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU <mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> > on behalf of Tommy Barr <tommymb...@gmail.com <mailto:tommymb...@gmail.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 10:11 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU <mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> Subject: [MOPO] To back or not to back . . . that is the question, so looking for some advice. I have a small Czech poster of Cabaret and an English double crown of Deer Hunter (Russian roulette style) both in excellent condition, but the paper is quite flimsy. Should I get these backed for framing? Tommy _ To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L <https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L=1> =1 _ To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L <https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L=1> =1 _ To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L <https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L=1> =1 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] To back or not to back . . .
Nearly as much dissension about linen backing as about religion! Celebrated my 70th birthday a couple of weeks ago so not too worried about my diet - or the Guinness.Think I might have the small Czech poster backed and leave the Deer Hunter one for now. On 23 June 2017 at 15:18, Helmut Hamm <texasmu...@web.de> wrote: > Don't listen to Filip. Do you REALLY want to drink your Guiness in a pub > for the rest of your life, because you can't stand looking at those cheaply > framed, unbacked posters in your home? > > Home drinking saves a lot of money, so the small expense for linenbacking > will be returned in no time. And the compliments of your drinking buddies? > Priceless... > > > Am 23.06.2017 um 15:04 schrieb filip de volder <runbuffy...@hotmail.com>: > > don't listen to Helmut , imagine the piles of extra donuts and the > gallons of guiness you can buy with money you may waste on linenbacking > h , donuts > > > -- > *From:* MoPo List <mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> on behalf of Helmut Hamm > <texasmu...@web.de> > *Sent:* Friday, June 23, 2017 1:58 PM > *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU > *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] To back or not to back . . . > > Tommy, > > if you like linenbacking, go for it. From an investment aspect, high grade > unbacked posters are a better choice. On the other hand, chances are good > that your posters will look much nicer in the frame after a quality > backing. > > Also, your beer and donuts diet probably won't allow you to grow too old, > so let somebody else worry about the retail value. Seriously, since you > obviously like linenbackin: Go for it! > > Best, > > Helmut > > > Am 23.06.2017 um 11:58 schrieb Tommy Barr <tommymb...@gmail.com>: > > I'm Irish - I love donuts and fish 'n' chips (and Guinness). Thanks to you > and Michael for your opinions, though I'm still not sure as to what I'll > do. I quite like backed posters, and have a fair number of backed one > sheets, etc., and I am very happy with the people who do the work. The very > flimsy nature of the items in question worries me, so I just wonder what > others do. > > Tommy > > On 23 June 2017 at 08:40, filip de volder <runbuffy...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >> you get my vote too , all you need is a good tight frame ... >> if you plan to perhaps at some point sell these posters note that many >> collectors are not too fond of linenbacked posters (so you may reduce the >> number of potential buyers) for several reasons : >> you don't really know the amount of restoration done until you get the >> poster >> for someone collecting quantity with limited space at home for the >> collection storing linenbacked posters is not like storing originally >> folded posters . >> the money you spend on linenbacking a perfect poster , which once >> displayed doesn't look better then in its original condition , can be >> better spend in buying healthier food then cheap donuts and fish 'n chips >> so you may live longer to enjoy your posters >> etc ... >> >> filip >> >> -- >> *From:* MoPo List <mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> on behalf of Michael >> Greenwood <newswan...@hotmail.com> >> *Sent:* Thursday, June 22, 2017 11:59 PM >> *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU >> *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] To back or not to back . . . >> >> >> Hello >> >> No. Why would you want to do that?! If there is extensive physical damage >> you want corrected or you find the fold lines unbearably distracting, then >> go for it. Otherwise, just get them framed for sure. The extra process and >> cost is completely unnecessary and things can go wrong between the poster >> leaving your nice place and coming back, backed by somebody who may not be >> as skilled as advertised or was in a rush and had a bad day. It's a risk >> and unless you love living on the edge, I'd vote against backing time and >> time again. >> >> M >> >> -- >> *From:* MoPo List <mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> on behalf of Tommy Barr >> <tommymb...@gmail.com> >> *Sent:* Thursday, June 22, 2017 10:11 AM >> *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU >> *Subject:* [MOPO] To back or not to back . . . >> >> that is the question, so looking for some advice. I have a small Czech >> poster of Cabaret and an English double crown of Deer Hunter (Russian >> roulette style) both in excellent condition, but the paper is quite flimsy. >> Should I get these backed for framing? >> >> Tommy
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Sounds like we have few fans of backing so far. But what if the poster is on really fragile paper? I have some Belgian posters that are in decent shape (no paper loss, no image damage), but age is catching up with them and the paper is starting to become brittle. Wouldn't it be wise to get these de-acidified and backed to insure their longevity? Is the real issue here the fact that in a future sale potential buyers will question whether the poster has had restoration work done? I didn't think linen backing was an automatic signal restoration was done on the poster. Maybe some of our dealers can shed some light. Also concerning restoration work.anyone had any experience with lobby card restoration? I have a couple of lobby's that are in less-than-stellar condition, mainly a little dirty, some slight creases and the paper has noticeably darkened. Can a good restorer do anything with these? Can lobby cards be linen backed? I can't recall ever having seen one. Thanks, Scott MoPo List Owner From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Michael Greenwood Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 5:59 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] To back or not to back . . . Hello No. Why would you want to do that?! If there is extensive physical damage you want corrected or you find the fold lines unbearably distracting, then go for it. Otherwise, just get them framed for sure. The extra process and cost is completely unnecessary and things can go wrong between the poster leaving your nice place and coming back, backed by somebody who may not be as skilled as advertised or was in a rush and had a bad day. It's a risk and unless you love living on the edge, I'd vote against backing time and time again. M _ From: MoPo List <mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU <mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> > on behalf of Tommy Barr <tommymb...@gmail.com <mailto:tommymb...@gmail.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 10:11 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU <mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> Subject: [MOPO] To back or not to back . . . that is the question, so looking for some advice. I have a small Czech poster of Cabaret and an English double crown of Deer Hunter (Russian roulette style) both in excellent condition, but the paper is quite flimsy. Should I get these backed for framing? Tommy _ To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L <https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L=1> =1 _ To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L <https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L=1> =1 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Don't listen to Filip. Do you REALLY want to drink your Guiness in a pub for the rest of your life, because you can't stand looking at those cheaply framed, unbacked posters in your home? Home drinking saves a lot of money, so the small expense for linenbacking will be returned in no time. And the compliments of your drinking buddies? Priceless... > Am 23.06.2017 um 15:04 schrieb filip de volder <runbuffy...@hotmail.com>: > > don't listen to Helmut , imagine the piles of extra donuts and the gallons > of guiness you can buy with money you may waste on linenbacking > h , donuts > > > From: MoPo List <mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> on behalf of Helmut Hamm > <texasmu...@web.de> > Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 1:58 PM > To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU > Subject: Re: [MOPO] To back or not to back . . . > > Tommy, > > if you like linenbacking, go for it. From an investment aspect, high grade > unbacked posters are a better choice. On the other hand, chances are good > that your posters will look much nicer in the frame after a quality backing. > > Also, your beer and donuts diet probably won't allow you to grow too old, so > let somebody else worry about the retail value. Seriously, since you > obviously like linenbackin: Go for it! > > Best, > > Helmut > > >> Am 23.06.2017 um 11:58 schrieb Tommy Barr <tommymb...@gmail.com >> <mailto:tommymb...@gmail.com>>: >> >> I'm Irish - I love donuts and fish 'n' chips (and Guinness). Thanks to you >> and Michael for your opinions, though I'm still not sure as to what I'll do. >> I quite like backed posters, and have a fair number of backed one sheets, >> etc., and I am very happy with the people who do the work. The very flimsy >> nature of the items in question worries me, so I just wonder what others do. >> >> Tommy >> >> On 23 June 2017 at 08:40, filip de volder <runbuffy...@hotmail.com >> <mailto:runbuffy...@hotmail.com>> wrote: >> >> you get my vote too , all you need is a good tight frame ... >> if you plan to perhaps at some point sell these posters note that many >> collectors are not too fond of linenbacked posters (so you may reduce the >> number of potential buyers) for several reasons : >> you don't really know the amount of restoration done until you get the >> poster >> for someone collecting quantity with limited space at home for the >> collection storing linenbacked posters is not like storing originally folded >> posters . >> the money you spend on linenbacking a perfect poster , which once displayed >> doesn't look better then in its original condition , can be better spend in >> buying healthier food then cheap donuts and fish 'n chips so you may live >> longer to enjoy your posters >> etc ... >> >> filip >> >> From: MoPo List <mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU >> <mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>> on behalf of Michael Greenwood >> <newswan...@hotmail.com <mailto:newswan...@hotmail.com>> >> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 11:59 PM >> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU <mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> >> Subject: Re: [MOPO] To back or not to back . . . >> >> >> Hello >> >> No. Why would you want to do that?! If there is extensive physical damage >> you want corrected or you find the fold lines unbearably distracting, then >> go for it. Otherwise, just get them framed for sure. The extra process and >> cost is completely unnecessary and things can go wrong between the poster >> leaving your nice place and coming back, backed by somebody who may not be >> as skilled as advertised or was in a rush and had a bad day. It's a risk and >> unless you love living on the edge, I'd vote against backing time and time >> again. >> >> M >> >> From: MoPo List <mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU >> <mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>> on behalf of Tommy Barr >> <tommymb...@gmail.com <mailto:tommymb...@gmail.com>> >> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 10:11 AM >> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU <mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> >> Subject: [MOPO] To back or not to back . . . >> >> that is the question, so looking for some advice. I have a small Czech >> poster of Cabaret and an English double crown of Deer Hunter (Russian >> roulette style) both in excellent condition, but the paper is quite flimsy. >> Should I get these backed for framing? >> >> Tommy >> >> To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click
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don't listen to Helmut , imagine the piles of extra donuts and the gallons of guiness you can buy with money you may waste on linenbacking h , donuts From: MoPo List <mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> on behalf of Helmut Hamm <texasmu...@web.de> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 1:58 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] To back or not to back . . . Tommy, if you like linenbacking, go for it. From an investment aspect, high grade unbacked posters are a better choice. On the other hand, chances are good that your posters will look much nicer in the frame after a quality backing. Also, your beer and donuts diet probably won't allow you to grow too old, so let somebody else worry about the retail value. Seriously, since you obviously like linenbackin: Go for it! Best, Helmut Am 23.06.2017 um 11:58 schrieb Tommy Barr <tommymb...@gmail.com<mailto:tommymb...@gmail.com>>: I'm Irish - I love donuts and fish 'n' chips (and Guinness). Thanks to you and Michael for your opinions, though I'm still not sure as to what I'll do. I quite like backed posters, and have a fair number of backed one sheets, etc., and I am very happy with the people who do the work. The very flimsy nature of the items in question worries me, so I just wonder what others do. Tommy On 23 June 2017 at 08:40, filip de volder <runbuffy...@hotmail.com<mailto:runbuffy...@hotmail.com>> wrote: you get my vote too , all you need is a good tight frame ... if you plan to perhaps at some point sell these posters note that many collectors are not too fond of linenbacked posters (so you may reduce the number of potential buyers) for several reasons : you don't really know the amount of restoration done until you get the poster for someone collecting quantity with limited space at home for the collection storing linenbacked posters is not like storing originally folded posters . the money you spend on linenbacking a perfect poster , which once displayed doesn't look better then in its original condition , can be better spend in buying healthier food then cheap donuts and fish 'n chips so you may live longer to enjoy your posters etc ... filip From: MoPo List <mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU<mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>> on behalf of Michael Greenwood <newswan...@hotmail.com<mailto:newswan...@hotmail.com>> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 11:59 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU<mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> Subject: Re: [MOPO] To back or not to back . . . Hello No. Why would you want to do that?! If there is extensive physical damage you want corrected or you find the fold lines unbearably distracting, then go for it. Otherwise, just get them framed for sure. The extra process and cost is completely unnecessary and things can go wrong between the poster leaving your nice place and coming back, backed by somebody who may not be as skilled as advertised or was in a rush and had a bad day. It's a risk and unless you love living on the edge, I'd vote against backing time and time again. M From: MoPo List <mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU<mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>> on behalf of Tommy Barr <tommymb...@gmail.com<mailto:tommymb...@gmail.com>> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 10:11 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU<mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> Subject: [MOPO] To back or not to back . . . that is the question, so looking for some advice. I have a small Czech poster of Cabaret and an English double crown of Deer Hunter (Russian roulette style) both in excellent condition, but the paper is quite flimsy. Should I get these backed for framing? Tommy To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L=1 To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L=1 To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L=1 To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L=1 To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L=1 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed
Re: [MOPO] To back or not to back . . .
Tommy, if you like linenbacking, go for it. From an investment aspect, high grade unbacked posters are a better choice. On the other hand, chances are good that your posters will look much nicer in the frame after a quality backing. Also, your beer and donuts diet probably won't allow you to grow too old, so let somebody else worry about the retail value. Seriously, since you obviously like linenbackin: Go for it! Best, Helmut > Am 23.06.2017 um 11:58 schrieb Tommy Barr <tommymb...@gmail.com>: > > I'm Irish - I love donuts and fish 'n' chips (and Guinness). Thanks to you > and Michael for your opinions, though I'm still not sure as to what I'll do. > I quite like backed posters, and have a fair number of backed one sheets, > etc., and I am very happy with the people who do the work. The very flimsy > nature of the items in question worries me, so I just wonder what others do. > > Tommy > > On 23 June 2017 at 08:40, filip de volder <runbuffy...@hotmail.com > <mailto:runbuffy...@hotmail.com>> wrote: > > you get my vote too , all you need is a good tight frame ... > if you plan to perhaps at some point sell these posters note that many > collectors are not too fond of linenbacked posters (so you may reduce the > number of potential buyers) for several reasons : > you don't really know the amount of restoration done until you get the > poster > for someone collecting quantity with limited space at home for the > collection storing linenbacked posters is not like storing originally folded > posters . > the money you spend on linenbacking a perfect poster , which once displayed > doesn't look better then in its original condition , can be better spend in > buying healthier food then cheap donuts and fish 'n chips so you may live > longer to enjoy your posters > etc ... > > filip > > From: MoPo List <mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU > <mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>> on behalf of Michael Greenwood > <newswan...@hotmail.com <mailto:newswan...@hotmail.com>> > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 11:59 PM > To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU <mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> > Subject: Re: [MOPO] To back or not to back . . . > > > Hello > > > No. Why would you want to do that?! If there is extensive physical damage you > want corrected or you find the fold lines unbearably distracting, then go for > it. Otherwise, just get them framed for sure. The extra process and cost is > completely unnecessary and things can go wrong between the poster leaving > your nice place and coming back, backed by somebody who may not be as skilled > as advertised or was in a rush and had a bad day. It's a risk and unless you > love living on the edge, I'd vote against backing time and time again. > > > M > > From: MoPo List <mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU > <mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>> on behalf of Tommy Barr > <tommymb...@gmail.com <mailto:tommymb...@gmail.com>> > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 10:11 AM > To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU <mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> > Subject: [MOPO] To back or not to back . . . > > that is the question, so looking for some advice. I have a small Czech poster > of Cabaret and an English double crown of Deer Hunter (Russian roulette > style) both in excellent condition, but the paper is quite flimsy. Should I > get these backed for framing? > > Tommy > > To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: > https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L=1 > <https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L=1> > To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: > https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L=1 > <https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L=1> > To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: > https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L=1 > <https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L=1> > > To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: > https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L=1 > <https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L=1> Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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I'm Irish - I love donuts and fish 'n' chips (and Guinness). Thanks to you and Michael for your opinions, though I'm still not sure as to what I'll do. I quite like backed posters, and have a fair number of backed one sheets, etc., and I am very happy with the people who do the work. The very flimsy nature of the items in question worries me, so I just wonder what others do. Tommy On 23 June 2017 at 08:40, filip de volder <runbuffy...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > you get my vote too , all you need is a good tight frame ... > if you plan to perhaps at some point sell these posters note that many > collectors are not too fond of linenbacked posters (so you may reduce the > number of potential buyers) for several reasons : > you don't really know the amount of restoration done until you get the > poster > for someone collecting quantity with limited space at home for the > collection storing linenbacked posters is not like storing originally > folded posters . > the money you spend on linenbacking a perfect poster , which once > displayed doesn't look better then in its original condition , can be > better spend in buying healthier food then cheap donuts and fish 'n chips > so you may live longer to enjoy your posters > etc ... > > filip > > -- > *From:* MoPo List <mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> on behalf of Michael > Greenwood <newswan...@hotmail.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, June 22, 2017 11:59 PM > *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU > *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] To back or not to back . . . > > > > Hello > > > No. Why would you want to do that?! If there is extensive physical damage > you want corrected or you find the fold lines unbearably distracting, then > go for it. Otherwise, just get them framed for sure. The extra process and > cost is completely unnecessary and things can go wrong between the poster > leaving your nice place and coming back, backed by somebody who may not be > as skilled as advertised or was in a rush and had a bad day. It's a risk > and unless you love living on the edge, I'd vote against backing time and > time again. > > > M > > -- > *From:* MoPo List <mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> on behalf of Tommy Barr < > tommymb...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, June 22, 2017 10:11 AM > *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU > *Subject:* [MOPO] To back or not to back . . . > > that is the question, so looking for some advice. I have a small Czech > poster of Cabaret and an English double crown of Deer Hunter (Russian > roulette style) both in excellent condition, but the paper is quite flimsy. > Should I get these backed for framing? > > Tommy > > -- > > To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: > https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L=1 > > -- > > To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: > https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L=1 > > -- > > To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: > https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L=1 > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] To back or not to back . . .
you get my vote too , all you need is a good tight frame ... if you plan to perhaps at some point sell these posters note that many collectors are not too fond of linenbacked posters (so you may reduce the number of potential buyers) for several reasons : you don't really know the amount of restoration done until you get the poster for someone collecting quantity with limited space at home for the collection storing linenbacked posters is not like storing originally folded posters . the money you spend on linenbacking a perfect poster , which once displayed doesn't look better then in its original condition , can be better spend in buying healthier food then cheap donuts and fish 'n chips so you may live longer to enjoy your posters etc ... filip From: MoPo List <mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> on behalf of Michael Greenwood <newswan...@hotmail.com> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 11:59 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] To back or not to back . . . Hello No. Why would you want to do that?! If there is extensive physical damage you want corrected or you find the fold lines unbearably distracting, then go for it. Otherwise, just get them framed for sure. The extra process and cost is completely unnecessary and things can go wrong between the poster leaving your nice place and coming back, backed by somebody who may not be as skilled as advertised or was in a rush and had a bad day. It's a risk and unless you love living on the edge, I'd vote against backing time and time again. M From: MoPo List <mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> on behalf of Tommy Barr <tommymb...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 10:11 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] To back or not to back . . . that is the question, so looking for some advice. I have a small Czech poster of Cabaret and an English double crown of Deer Hunter (Russian roulette style) both in excellent condition, but the paper is quite flimsy. Should I get these backed for framing? Tommy To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L=1 To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L=1 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Hello No. Why would you want to do that?! If there is extensive physical damage you want corrected or you find the fold lines unbearably distracting, then go for it. Otherwise, just get them framed for sure. The extra process and cost is completely unnecessary and things can go wrong between the poster leaving your nice place and coming back, backed by somebody who may not be as skilled as advertised or was in a rush and had a bad day. It's a risk and unless you love living on the edge, I'd vote against backing time and time again. M From: MoPo List <mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> on behalf of Tommy Barr <tommymb...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 10:11 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] To back or not to back . . . that is the question, so looking for some advice. I have a small Czech poster of Cabaret and an English double crown of Deer Hunter (Russian roulette style) both in excellent condition, but the paper is quite flimsy. Should I get these backed for framing? Tommy To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L=1 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] To back or not to back . . .
that is the question, so looking for some advice. I have a small Czech poster of Cabaret and an English double crown of Deer Hunter (Russian roulette style) both in excellent condition, but the paper is quite flimsy. Should I get these backed for framing? Tommy Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] To back or not to back?
Why would someone paperback then if it's so inflexible? J R wrote: Toochis, Since you have paper missing, if you want to replace the missing paper and image, you have to back. Either linen or paper -- although I am with those who don't like paper-backing much. It isn't that much cheaper than linen-backing and it renders the piece stiff and brittle -- it can no longer be rolled again. Ever. So perhaps a "very light" linen, with the image touched up by a good restorer. I've got a half sheet of THE BLOB that needs complete border replacement (no image work required at least), but I have been putting off having done for many years... who knows if I'll ever get it done? -- JR - Original Message - From: Toochis Morin To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 0:58 Subject: Re: [MOPO] To back or not to back? That sounds great, JR. One question I do have though is what does one do when they have a window card that is torn? I have a beautiful General Died at Dawn in great shape but the corner is torn off which goes into the image. I have been putting it off for too long now and would love to send it to Jaime soon. Does one back it in this case? Toochis --- J R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Linenbacking and Restoration questionScott received many good recommendations on where to have his half-sheet backed, but so far not much comment on IF he should do it at all. His description of the condition: "very good condition - there is one horizontal and one vertical fold, and a bit of yellowing, but that's it." My inclination would be to go for minimal preservation actions and restoration, but forget about the backing. If it was a thin one-sheet, that would be different, but half-sheets are thick paper. A half sheet with the paper in very good shape really does not need the extra support that linenbacking provides to the thinner one sheets. What I would do is use one of the recommended pros to have it de-acidified to prevent further paper yellowing and deterioration. If the existing yellowing is disturbing, perhaps a light bleaching and cleaning first to spruce those aspects up and "pop" the colors back to their original state. Finally, if there was significant color loss in the fold lines, maybe have them touched up a little (don't overdo it). But I'd stop there, and take a pass on the linenbacking. Instead, I'd get one of Sue Heim's super-archival frames and slip that pretty baby in there. That will protect and preserve it as good or better than linenbacking will -- and it will look great in the frame. -- JR - Original Message - From: Scott Richardson To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 21:39 Subject: [MOPO] Linenbacking and Restoration question Hello, everyone - I have a style-B half sheet from "Some Like it Hot" which I am contemplating having linen backed. It is in what I would call very good condition - there is one horizontal and one vertical fold, and a bit of yellowing, but that's it. I've never had a poster restored, but this one is special to me, and I would like to ensure it's longevity. Would you recommend that for these minimal flaws, that I proceed with the linenbacking? Any other thoughts or advice kindly appreciated. Scott Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date: 12/30/04 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date: 12/30/04 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com
Re: [MOPO] To back or not to back?
Ed, I've always wondered about that myself. I'm hoping someone knows more about the "why" of paperbacking than I do and will answer. My guess is that originally it was significantly cheaper to back with paper then with linen. Also there may have been a kind of automatic association with the idea of "hey, the poster is already made out of paper, so why not back it with more paper?" I'm just guessing here, though. -- JR - Original Message - From: Ed Flood To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 10:27 Subject: Re: [MOPO] To back or not to back? Why would someone paperback then if it's so inflexible?J R wrote: Toochis, Since you have paper missing, if you want to replace the missing paper and image, you have to back. Either linen or paper -- although I am with those who don't like paper-backing much. It isn't that much cheaper than linen-backing and it renders the piece stiff and brittle -- it can no longer be rolled again. Ever. So perhaps a "very light" linen, with the image touched up by a good restorer. I've got a half sheet of THE BLOB that needs complete border replacement (no image work required at least), but I have been putting off having done for many years... who knows if I'll ever get it done? -- JR - Original Message - From: Toochis Morin To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 0:58 Subject: Re: [MOPO] To back or not to back? That sounds great, JR. One question I do have thoughis what does one do when they have a window card thatis torn?I have a beautiful General Died at Dawn in great shapebut the corner is torn off which goes into the image.I have been putting it off for too long now and wouldlove to send it to Jaime soon.Does one back it in this case?Toochis--- J R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Linenbacking and Restoration questionScott received many good recommendations on where to have his half-sheet backed, but so far not much comment on IF he should do it at all. His description of the condition: "very good condition - there is one horizontal and one vertical fold, and a bit of yellowing, but that's it." My inclination would be to go for minimal preservation actions and restoration, but forget about the backing. If it was a thin one-sheet, that would be different, but half-sheets are thick paper. A half sheet with the paper in very good shape really does not need the extra support that linenbacking provides to the thinner one sheets. What I would do is use one of the recommended pros to have it de-acidified to prevent further paper yellowing and deterioration. If the existing yellowing is disturbing, perhaps a light bleaching and cleaning first to spruce those aspects up and "pop" the colors back to their original state. Finally, if there was significant color loss in the fold lines, maybe have them touched up a little (don't overdo it). But I'd stop there, and take a pass on the linenbacking. Instead, I'd get one of Sue Heim's super-archival frames and slip that pretty baby in there. That will protect and preserve it as good or better than linenbacking will -- and it will look great in the frame. -- JR - Original Message - From: Scott Richardson To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 21:39 Subject: [MOPO] Linenbacking and Restoration question Hello, everyone - I have a style-B half sheet from "Some Like it Hot" which I am contemplating having linen backed. It is in what I would call very good condition - there is one horizontal and one vertical fold, and a bit of yellowing, but that's it. I've never had a poster restored, but this one is special to me, and I would like to ensure it's longevity. Would you recommend that for these minimal flaws, that I proceed with the linenbacking? Any other thoughts or advice kindly appreciated. Scott Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.-- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release
Re: [MOPO] To back or not to back?
I've always wondered too. I've been told that someone decided the heavier stock paper items needed paper backing to breathe more naturally but that has been countered by people suggesting the method was pushed into popularity by someone with a financial interest in the process. Whatever. I have one paper backed item that I bought backed and it is very stiff and mildly annoying but looks fine. I recently got some half sheets (both thick paper and thin) and inserts linen backed and although they still need to be stored flat (folds have memories, apparently) they are a little more supple and look fantastic as well. I think it's up to the individual, obviously. I'd be interested to hear if anybody had proof that one method was better than the other. I suspect that would take years to prove...when we look at our posters down the road. All the best, Michael J R wrote: Ed,I've always wondered about that myself. I'm hoping someone knows more about the "why" of paperbacking than I do and will answer. My guess is that originally it was significantly cheaper to back with paper then with linen. Also there may have been a kind of automatic association with the idea of "hey, the poster is already made out of paper, so why not back it with more paper?"I'm just guessing here, though.-- JR - Original Message - From: Ed Flood To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 10:27 Subject: Re: [MOPO] To back or not to back? Why would someone paperback then if it's so inflexible? J R wrote: Toochis,Since you have paper missing, if you want to replace the missing paper and image, you have to back. Either linen or paper -- although I am with those who don't like paper-backing much. It isn't that much cheaper than linen-backing and it renders the piece stiff and brittle -- it can no longer be rolled again. Ever. So perhaps a "very light" linen, with the image touched up by a good restorer.I've got a half sheet of THE BLOB that needs complete border replacement (no image work required at least), but I have been putting off having done for many years... who knows if I'll ever get it done?-- JR - Original Message - From: Toochis Morin To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 0:58 Subject: Re: [MOPO] To back or not to back? That sounds great, JR. One question I do have though is what does one do when they have a window card that is torn? I have a beautiful General Died at Dawn in great shape but the corner is torn off which goes into the image. I have been putting it off for too long now and would love to send it to Jaime soon. Does one back it in this case? Toochis --- J R [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Linenbacking and Restoration questionScott received > many good recommendations on where to have his > half-sheet backed, but so far not much comment on IF > he should do it at all. His description of the > condition: > > "very good condition - there is one horizontal and > one vertical fold, and a bit of yellowing, but > that's it." > > My inclination would be to go for minimal > preservation actions and restoration, but forget > about the backing. If it was a thin one-sheet, that > would be different, but half-sheets are thick paper. > A half sheet with the paper in very good shape > really does not need the extra support that > linenbacking provides to the thinner one sheets. > > What I would do is use one of the recommended pros > to have it de-acidified to prevent further paper > yellowing and deterioration. If the existing > yellowing is disturbing, perhaps a light bleaching > and cleaning first to spruce those aspects up and > "pop" the colors back to their original state. > Finally, if there was significant color loss in the > fold lines, maybe have them touched up a little > (don't overdo it). But I'd stop there, and take a > pass on the linenbacking. Instead, I'd get one of > Sue Heim's super-archival frames and slip that > pretty baby in there. That will protect and preserve > it as good or better than linenbacking will -- and > it will look great in the frame. > > -- JR > - Original Message - > From: Scott Richardson > To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 21:39 > Subject: [MOPO] Linenbacking and Restoration > question > > > > Hello, everyone - > > I have a style-B half sheet from "Some Like it > Hot" which I am contemplating having linen backed. > It is in what I would call very good condition - > there is one horizontal and one vertical fold, and a > bit of yellowing, but that's it. > > I've never had a poster restored, but this one is > special to me, and I would like to ensure it's > longevity. > > Would you recommend that for these minimal flaws, > that I proceed with the
