Re: [Mpls] What is missing?
Driving (or walking) along Nicollet Avenue (before it was the Mall) on Thanksgiving night, noses pressed to the car windows, to see Dayton's holiday windows. Before the 8th Floor Holiday Show, Dayton's used to deck the windows for Christmas and unveil them on Thanksgiving night. A treasured after-turkey treat. No calories. Kids walking to school all over town. Two-way traffic around the lakes. Ann Berget Kingfield 10-10
Re:[Mpls] What is missing?
The beaver family that tried to dam the back channel down below Tile and Marble The muskrats that lived in the backwater between Boom Island and the high ground The woodchucks living under the garage that mowed down my neighbors green pea plants The burro (Sheba) that mowed down my neighbors sweet corn The domestic guard geese that chased cars The goat that ran away to Nicollet Mall The scolding wren protecting her nest by the main garden Huge cottonwoods, a lovely weeping willow, and several big elms taken out by a 100 mph straight-line wind Maybe still around: Pheasants crowing in the morning Rabbits in the brambles Raccoons passing through Brown rats munching on the grain spills along the tracks Fred Markus Horn Terrace Ward Ten
[Mpls] What is missing
I haven't seen this one mentioned yet by anyone adding to this thread. Anyone besides me remember the Padded Cell on Lake at Bryant I believe. In the early 60's you could go there to hear folk singers, drink a beer (and one of my roommates left town with one of the musicians). Those were the days my friend. And if that isn't enough about a misspent youth - I do remember Mr. Nibbs and the then called 901 (ninth and Cedar) where you could get three drinks for a $1.00. Cheap booze, cheap drunk. It is amazing I have any brain cells left. This thread has been a real kick. Jan Del Calzo Lynnhurst ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: Fwd: [Mpls] Riverview site
At 12:38 AM 11/17/01 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the matter of the Riverview Supper Club site, I believe it arguable that having the housing development adjacent to the new park site will serve park visitors well. As an example (you decide how similar) I offer up Wirth Parkway. This stunningly beautiful and wild parkway area, over the last 20 or so years that I have enjoyed it, has been relatively deserted. Virtually abandoned, in so many ways, as a recreational and naturally scenic destination because Mom, dad and the kids didn't feel safe enough, nor did groups of women, and certainly not single women (alone). Please picture people tripping over each other on south parkways, trails and paths that are no more nor less beautiful, just more visited and crowded, and abutted by housing. Is this really the case? There was the one serial killer who left bodies there, but he didn't find his victims in the park, and he recently died in prison. I don't go there very often, mostly because it's outside the areas where I usually spend time. A couple summers ago, I took an extended bike ride (alone) that included Wirth Park. It was a nice Sunday afternoon. There were other people around, not nearly as many as at Lake Calhoun or Lake of the Isles. I was happy to have a large stretch of trail where I wasn't running into or being run down by inline skaters. No one threatened or harrassed me. Could Annie or Dean comment on whether there is a great deal of crime in Wirth Park? Rosalind Nelson Bancroft Neighborhood ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: Fwd: [Mpls] Riverview site
We get police reports every week in our Board packet and I have never noticed that there is much activity out at Wirth Park. Maybe at the parking lot by the chalet where cars might be broken into for stolen purses, etc. However, compared to the cars parked around the Chain of Lakes that get broken into, it would be considered nothing. I hear nothing but great reports of people who love Wirth Park because it is wild and still feels like going to the woods and yet is in the city. And in case folks have never noticed, the view of downtown from that westend of the city on Glenwood Avenue, etc - it is a beautiful sight to behold. I happen to love Wirth myself. I am a single woman, I do go alone and I do not carry a cellphone. I think it is a personal matter of taste. Generally it is the socialization of our society that makes us afraid to be alone rather than with others. And as we know on Lake Calhoun and Harriet - it is the keeping up with the JOneses and needing to be seen - it is so in to go around the lakes. And the suburbanites just need to have their fill of our great lakes. Enough already - I love Wirth Park. Annie Ward 6 - East Phillips If there is to be any peace it will come through being, not having. - Miller ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Totally Commercially Funded (TCF) Holidazzle
In a message dated 11/17/01 8:51:29 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You mean it's not going to continue to be an obvious advertisement for the electric company? *grin* Of course, being proud to be an employee of a TCF competitor, I may have to boycott! I am thrilled that someone came forward to fund Hollidazzle. Earlier today on the "Missing" thread, Ann Berget mentioned driving down Nicollet Ave to see the Dayton windows on Thanksgiving evening. As a kid, I too remember that wonderful thrill. To me Hollidazzle is the same thing. For a little kid to have the thrill of the parade each year is a memory builder. I don't care who funds it, it's a great attraction for Minneapolis and a wonderful thrill for the rug rats. Karen Collier Linden Hills
Re: [Mpls] Totally Commercially Funded (TCF) Holidazzle
I don't have a problem with the TCF Holidazzle.I didn't thinkanything could be more commercial than the Holidazzle. I was wrong. The TCF HOLIDAZZLE! Nancy Russell 12-4 - Original Message - From: Michael Libby Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 6:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mpls] Totally Commercially Funded (TCF) Holidazzle -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-Hash: SHA1On Wednesday 14 November 2001 02:51 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, what do people think of the fact that the Holidazzle is going to berenamed the "TCF Holidzzle?"You mean it's not going to continue to be an obvious advertisement for theelectric company? *grin*Of course, being proud to be an employee of a TCF competitor, I may have toboycott!- -Michael Libby ( Cleveland / "Over North" )- --=| My Public Key available from: keys.pgp.com| or http://www.ichimunki.com/public.key|| Its Fingerprint| D946 FE20 79EE 2109 161B FAFB E029 56F4 A330 AA73=-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux)Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.orgiD8DBQE79nou4ClW9KMwqnMRArL/AJ9FUo2KdRCiFaY9acu92ew0uuHljQCfe1q3NqZ1/yOELLLhVp2SpJoYy38==ML2l-END PGP SIGNATURE-___Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-DemocracyPost messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more:http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Re: What's Missing
Remember two movies for the price of one at the Uptown Theater in the late 70's and early 80's? Saw many a foreign film during those years with college comrades or dates. I saw Breaker Morant, The Lighthorsemen, and Picnic at Hangin Rock, all great Aussie films, that way. I also remember when The Egg and I was located in the Maytag site, and how they kept their money in a big plastic ice cream bucket when they first opened. I also miss MTC bus fare of 30 cents. Valerie Powers Ward 10 ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] BIG news on the Riverview site
Big, BIG news on the Riverview Supper Club site in today's Star Tribune by Steve Brandt: www.startribune.com/stories/462/835909.html Worth checking out... = Candy Sartell Lind Bohanon, Ward 4 __ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] AMEN to Citizen Advisory Groups
I am bothered by the exchange concerning the efficacy of Citizen Advisory Groups and the resulting AMEN from Council Member Elect Zimmermann. Andy Driscoll began by writing that Citizen advisory groups are a complete sham, no matter what they're studying. And to this Dean added his AMEN. I offer one story to Dean. The Park Board, as Dean acknowledged, had money issues up to a few years ago. They were not receiving,or spending,enough money to properly maintain their existing infrastructure. Every year they submitted requests for more money then was available, with standards that seemed at times to reflect no long term strategy for their assets. I remember the year they requested and received funding to fix the wood gym floor at Lynnhurst, that was wrecked from the leaking roof. The interesting part is they didn't submit a request to fix the roof,the cause of the problem, until the next year. What happened to change their approach to maintaining their assets? Not being a member of the Park Board or its staff, I only can go with what they have put in print. To quote their own Infrastructure Summary and GAP Report: The Capital Long Range Improvement Committee (CLIC), the citizens committee that prepares a capital budget for the Mayor's review, requested that the Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board prepare a comparable (to the Public Works report) study for Park Board assets. It was this study that was the basis for the Park Board's numbers that were used to begin the process of bringing their capital program into some sort of long range plan. And according to the Park Board, based on advice from a CITIZEN ADVISORY GROUP. I agree with Andy and Dean that some citizen groups are used by the powers that be as a sham. The politicians know what they are going to do from the beginning and whatever the group comes up with is most likely going to only make modest changes to the plan as they have laid it out. At the same time, I believe the failure of many citizen groups is that they become citizen ADVOCACY groups, not advisory groups. When they come up with their opinion they assume that is what should be done. The problem is they are selected not elected, they have no responsibility for the ultimate decision, they do not have the knowledge of all the other components involved in the project under study, and often they are blinded, just as politicians can be, by advocating for the true and right way, which is their way. Hopefully when Dean becomes an official Council Member, he recognizes the role citizen groups play. I would hope he listens to their advice, but I also hope he understands that he was elected to make decisions. His decisions must be made on a total picture, that at times might not agree with what a citizen group recommends. Bob Gustafson, writing today from the Mushy Middle of Minneapolis __ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Billy Graham Ministry Properties-Film Production? Property back on tax rolls?
I was curious if any of the Billy Graham buildings that will be being vacated include film production and staging areas. I know distribution of films has been from Mpls but it wasn't clear to me how much of their production was here. If there are already existing film facilities in part of the complex or a space that would be amenable to be turned into film production space, I think it would be great to see Independent Film Feature Project North take over that part of the complex or space. Minneapolis Community College has a highly respected film program. It seems that IFFPN and perhaps the Walker digital and film project could partner on utilizing this space to further local film artists of all kinds. Since the properties are currently off the tax rolls due to nonprofit status of the Bill Graham organization, the city will likey want to bring some private sector businesses into these buildings or upper end housing. This could help offset the properties lost to the tax rolls by the St. Thomas expansion. Hopefully this won't prevent nonprofit uses being sought for individual parts of the Graham complex. How are the plans proceeding on the moving of Metropolitan State University to the proposed location atop the parking ramp on Hennepin accross from MCC? A few thoughts and questions, David Strand Loring Park Ward 7 __ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
RE: [Mpls] Billy Graham property back on tax rolls?
David Stand writes: Since the properties are currently off the tax rolls due to nonprofit status of the Bill Graham organization, the city will likey want to bring some private sector businesses into these buildings or upper end housing. This could help offset the properties lost to the tax rolls by the St. Thomas expansion. I believe Billy Graham's enterprises make payments in lieu of property taxes - something several (but certainly not all) non-profits do. I don't know if the payment equals the commercial property tax rate, but the Billy Graham folks do deserve some secular praise for making tax payments when the law doesn't require it. David Brauer King Field - Ward 10 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Think Spring!
This has got to be the strangest November I ever did see. People are biking down the street in shorts and sandals, there's not an ice-scraper in sight, and I was just out in my backyard - bare-footed, mind you - and I discovered that the neighbor's lilac bushes are putting out buds! Any other signs that the year has her months mixed up? Valerie Powers Ward 10 ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] AMEN to Citizen Advisory Groups
Robert Gustafson wrote: they do not have the knowledge of all the other components involved in the project under study I also hope he understands that he was elected to make decisions. His decisions must be made on a total picture, that at times might not agree with what a citizen group recommends. Bob has identified a problem that can be fixed. If citizen's groups do not have the knowledge of all the other components involved our newly elected council could provide all of us with knowledge of the other components. Then citizen advisory groups could have better advice to give. It's kinda stupid, IMHO, to ask for advice without stating all the components of the problem. WizardMarks, Central __ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Riverview site
In a message dated 11/17/01 10:29:29 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't go there very often, mostly because it's outside the areas where I usually spend time. A couple summers ago, I took an extended bike ride (alone) that included Wirth Park. It was a nice Sunday afternoon. There were other people around, not nearly as many as at Lake Calhoun or Lake of the Isles. I was happy to have a large stretch of trail where I wasn't running into or being run down by inline skaters. No one threatened or harassed me. Could Annie or Dean comment on whether there is a great deal of crime in Wirth Park? Rosalind Nelson Bancroft Neighborhood I solicited comments about the Riverview supper club development site and reasonable comparison to other unique sites. It is fine that Rosalind commented on the beauty of Wirth Park. I said it was wild and beautiful myself. I have taken bike rides alone there too. I ran it, skated it, walked it and wandered it, too. And similar to Rosalind, I enjoyed it too. I just described defensible space by design and examples of two park areas with unique character and characteristics. And, as if to underscore the the repeat-use aspect of my previous comments, Rosalind does mention her only VISIT in two years. No Repeat. Wirth Parkway is a MEGA destination that in past years and decades has been perceived as less safe and more wild and so other destinations are chosen, is my hypotheses. But let us return to the Riverview/JADT development site. How safe will it be? How safe will it appear to be? The multiplication of reality X perception, will help determine who and how often, people will visit and enjoy the Park. Whatever size or configuration occurs at that site, I am very excited, pleased and optimistic about it. I am also adding my voice to those in this Quadrant of the City, and beyond, who support the creation of a nice Park at the site. I believe Mr. Baylor when he makes clear his support for a Park at this site. He has drawn up the plans with a great Park and shown them to any and all who wish to review them. And based on Mr. Baylor's excellent and humane business acumen and mentorship on troubled West Broadway, I do commend him. I would commend to him, this daunting task so close to West Broadway, serving this whole quarter of the City, and beyond. In fairness and candor, I am less well informed or positive about the mixed-use aspects and implications of the project and I would like to hear the opinions of others on all aspects. But I hope to read less platitude/more thought. Keith Reitman, toward good outcome, Near North. ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] How safe is the Riverview site?
Keith Reitman asked how safe would a park be at the Riverview Supper Club site? As I mentioned in an earlier post, I've been involved with the Twin Cities River Rats water ski team that has held shows at this site for the past five years or so. We started out getting a dozen or so spectators coming to our shows each week and by last season we were getting over a hundred sometimes (we get several hundred when we do our shows for Aquatennial weekend). This is despite the fact that there's really no place to sit except on a poorly-maintained and rocky hillside, there's no on-site restroom facilities and until this past summer when we were granted a concessions license, no place to get a snack or a pop or water. I can only imagine what kind of turnout there would be if we even had the kind of facilities found at Boom Island. I can't really recall during that time many instances that would suggest the area is unsafe. We've held shows on Thursday evenings from June through August as well as practices on other weekday evenings and on weekends. I think I recall one case where a member lost her purse, but I don't remember whether it was stolen or just misplaced. I also remember one instance where our storage shed was broken into and some equipment was taken. Certainly, nobody's ever been assaulted or anything. The worst thing I can recall was an instance where somebody (we suspected a group of kids) tossed one of our show props in the river and even that was rescued by a barge crew that recognized it from our show. There is the occasional inebriated person that hangs around - but we've never had problems with any of them. On one occasion, a fellow picked up a wet suit one of our members had forgotten and kept it for us until the next time we were there for a practice. While the Supper Club itself had it's share of bad publicity over the years, there certainly hasn't been any rampant bad activity going on in the area around it, at least not in the summer when we're all out there. I think people visiting a park at this site will be perfectly safe. I was pleased to see in today's Star Tribune that all the folks who have been working so hard to get a park in this area are finally starting to be heard! Sincerely, Mark Snyder Ward 1/Windom Park ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Re: What's Missing? newsreel-only theaters, and ---
Remember the narrow movie theater on the East side of Hennepin just North of 8th St. that showed ONLY newsreels? I can barely recall going there with my dad to see filmed news reports about THE WAR, shot at the front -- several months earlier. First time I saw tears in his eyes. On rare occasions he took me for a cheap meal at the nearby Forum cafeteria. I loved that food -- but my tastes have improved. And now I can appreciate the Forum's funky art deco style. Come to think of it, do you remember when the standard movie fare included one (or more) cartoons and a recent newsreel before the main feature -- and no previews? When the Saturday matinee was probably Hopalong Cassidy or The Lone Ranger? And the coolest matinee was the rare all cartoon shows? No, most of you probably don't have these ancient memories -- but just ask your grandfather. He'll know! And he'll sure appreciate your interest. Bob Schoonover Afton MN ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] What's Missing?
Great topic! I really miss all the great CHEAP cafeterias that used to be downtown. You actually got good fast food that you would never find anywhere else (or maybe didn't want to). Now dining downtown is all chain fast food or upscale. I remember a guy at the Forum Cafeteria who every morning had a bowl of oatmeal and proceeded to empty an entire container of sugar over it and wash all that down with two large glasses of grapefruit juice. Everyone felt welcome at these places, sort of like White Castle's today. Richard Anderson Loring Park ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] What's missing?
Moby Dick's on Hennepin with Bob Dylan lurking in the crowd. Great Horned Owl of Nicollet Island. The market on Hennepin Avenue in downtown that was some of the best people watching. The hobos that used to live in caves and make-shift wooden houses on the river banks where the $250,000 (and more) townhouses currently reside. Dave Lerner the landlord of Nicollet Island. timothy connolly wrote: The Bottleneck where Lyndale and Hennepin crisscrossed and everything about the area from the Toddle House to the Rose Gardens to the old Walker Art Center(its 2nd incarnation I believe) to Tom Lowry's statue, Downtown Chevy, The Kenwood(residential) and Park Place Hotels and on and on. West High School and Douglas Elementary The William Hood Dunwoody mansion atop Lowry Hill cobblestoned streets granite pavers on streets instead of everyones gardens To Jenny Heiser the first Japanese restaurant in Mpls was ASUKA on 7th Street between the Academy and World Theatres. At least that's the first place I recall. How about the 620 Club with a sign showing a steaming turkey in the window and the words Where Turkey is King. I fondly recall the Main Street Grill across from B.F. Nelson where Marshall split off from Main. There was an old ragpicker named Louis Wittles who had a stake bed truck and who had a gimpy leg. Nobody has mentioned the Minneapolis Arena at the site of the current Uptown Rainbow store where we went to skate on Sunday afternoons in the late fall before the lakes froze over. Anyone remember hockey games between the Saints and the Millers. The sight of stitches on the shaved side of a Saint named Bailey's head that looked like a zipper is as vivid in my mind as the day I saw it. How about Minneapolis Moline on Lake Street? The Washington Avenue viaduct which forever claimed too high truck trailers and over-imbibing drivers. Seven digit alpha-numerica phone numbers Hundreds of neighborhood drugstores to hang at and even more small groceries that delivered, home delivery from Dayton's of a toaster Service Stations where they fixed cars and helped with wiper blades instead of selling cigarettes and soda. The Chicago Northwestern roundhouse and cabooses from which to steal flares Old arching streetlights like the one still situated at Oliver Place and Penn Ave off Kenwood Parkway Mr Lucky's at Lake and Nicollet Marigold Ballroom Blue Laws misspent youth I feel blessed. I would also guess there are more than a few in this city who have completely different perceptions. Minneapolis was a great city but it wasn't necessarily so for everyone. Cheers! Tim Connolly Ward 7 __ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] What is missing?
The barge that ran into Nicollet Island early one spring and was hung up there for a few days. "Fredric H. Markus" wrote: The beaver family that tried to dam the back channel down below Tile and Marble The muskrats that lived in the backwater betweenBoomIsland and the high ground The woodchucks living under the garage that mowed down my neighbors green pea plants The burro (Sheba) that mowed down my neighbors sweet corn The domestic guard geese that chased cars The goat that ran away to Nicollet Mall The scolding wren protecting her nest by the main garden Huge cottonwoods, a lovely weeping willow, and several big elms taken out by a 100 mph straight-line wind Maybe still around: Pheasants crowing in the morning Rabbits in the brambles Raccoons passing through Brown rats munching on the grain spills along the tracks Fred Markus Horn Terrace Ward Ten
[Mpls] Strib: Rybak in his own words
http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/835718.html David Brauer List manager _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Re: What's Missing? newsreel-only theaters, and ---
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Come to think of it, do you remember when the standard movie fare included one (or more) cartoons and a recent newsreel before the main feature -- and no previews? My all time favorite cartoon was Bugs Bunny and Elmer Fudd doing Wagner's Rite of the Valkyrie (sp?) with Elmer singing, Kill the wabbit, kill the wabbit, kill the wabbit, kill the bunny. WizardMarks, Central ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] What's missing?
Doc Whitting's (sp?) office in the pilot house of the Showboat theater Best Steak House at Oak and Washington Coffman Union before the disastrous 1970's remodeling The old theater scene shop behind the Armory at the U Sammy D's (run by Mama D) in Dinkytown Naked day at the old Electric Fetus on Cedar Rock and Roll in the auditorium at the old Union Temple building (now Aveda) Rock and Roll at the Armory People's Park at 22nd and 22nd (next to Milwaukee Avenue) Movie theaters downtown (World, Academe, Mann) Donaldson's and Penny's and Power's Department stores downtown Catching a train at the old Great Northern Station Taking a train across the Stone Arch Bridge Watching trains while eating at the Fuji ya (spelling?) The Minnegasco building at 7th and 2nd-- A classic 60's modern glass building with curved corners. Rope swing at M'haha creek and Bloomington Ave Public libraries in Minneapolis elementary schools. Very poorly attended high school basket ball games at the Armory Miniature golf behind Porky's on West Lake Porky's on 22nd and East Lake . sheldon mainsseward neighborhoodminneapolis [EMAIL PROTECTED] the shameless agitator in the electronic town square ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Riverview site
Keith Reitman writes: I invited polite rebuttal of my remarks below and got none. Most all I have read regarding this issue on the List is the equivalent of flag waving to me. So I ask, please tell me how I err in my posting below? I sez: The error is not in the arguments, but in the underlying assumptions that support them. Put the river first, then talk about development. Kinda simple, really, but until we agree on that, all arguments will be circular. Perhaps we have traveled too far from what we used to have to consider saving a great river worth the effort, even when we have the tools to do it. All the posts on What's Missing should be a clue that sometimes you can't bring back what you used to take for granted. Fran Guminga On the river in Bottineau ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] What's missing?
The old two-story wooden Lynnhurst Park Building that was located on the north side of W. 50th Street across from where it is today. It was painted that ever-popular light green as I recall and I think it was where the kiddie pool is now. That was before they built the new one that's attached to Burroughs Elementary school permanently blocking Humboldt Avenue. (Kind of like a mini K-Mart at Nicollet situation) We could really use more access onto and off of that stretch of 50th these days! There was a beautiful wide boulevard between the old First Universalist Church (now Shir Tikvah Synagogue) and the school with Humboldt and Girard/M'haha Pkwy running parallel. Maybe traffic there can be improved now that they will be razing and rebuilding Burroughs, which is a much needed project, speaking from the perspective of a nostalgic alumnus as well as a current Burroughs parent. Crayfish in Minnehaha Creek. School newspaper drives before there was curb recycling - a major competitive event. Each classroom would have a designated place along the curb on Logan Avenue across from Mount Olivet Church and parents and other donators would drive up and drop off bundles of newspapers tied with twine. By mid-afternoon there would be huge piles of newspapers along Logan and it would be pretty clear which classroom was champion of the world. There must have been quite a volume of newspapers since both the Minneapolis Star and the Minneapolis Tribune were being published at the time. The Baskin Robbins at 50th and Penn Ave. S. Officer McLeod from the Minneapolis Police Department who would visit schools and talk to kids. The big docks with diving boards at Lake Harriet and Lake Calhoun. Spending a day at a Minneapolis beach was a real event in summers of the past. As a kid it was a thrill to swim out to the dock and hang out with the teens and grown-ups and muster up enough courage to dive from the board. In contrast, my kids are bored at the very same beaches from which I have such great memories. There's no diving boards, no docks at all and in order to go beyond the rope, which in recent years is in water that only comes up to their ribs, they are required to take a lame swimming test which they opt out of because they're on the shy side when it comes to public display of their swimming abilities. So they splash around inside the rope area and dive for rocks. Sad or what? Today you can't even throw a Frisbee or beachball in the water at a Minneapolis beach without getting busted by the lifeguards - with full whistle and megaphone! I know all of this must have come about because of the fear of being sued after some tragic Frisbee water accident but the overabundance of safety measures have just killed the experience for our kids. The swamp at W. 54th Street and Irving where the church now stands. The people in the newer housing over there need not wonder why they have wet basements. Home milk delivery from Ewald Brothers! Karen Larson Tangletown, 11-2 ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Schools: Financial Concerns and Computer Issues
I've been following the thread on the use of computers in the schools, and I want to pass on some information from the technology department of the MPS about computers in the schools. First, though, I want to address the concerns raised about the district's finances, particularly Heather's comment that all items in the budget should be examined as the district faces difficult financial times. Last winter at its board retreat, the school board expressed the same concerns that Heather was expressing, and decided that an important focus of the Superintendent's work and the board's monitoring should be on the business and financial accountability of the district. As part of this work, Supt. Dr. Carol Johnson has been working with McKinsey and Co, a national consulting firm that has provided its services to the MPS on a pro bono basis, to research and evaluate the district's spending and develop a plan for controlling it. This work is just being completed and should be ready to be presented at the December 11th school board meeting, which will be televised. Secondly, Dr. Johnson has been working with EDS (Electronic Data Systems) over the past 6 months, again, on a pro bono basis (about $250,000 worth), to do an information management assessment of the MPS, and identify ways to help MPS achieve a new level of performance and to accelerate implementation of initiatives and achieve goals. EDS will loan MPS an executive to help with the implementation of its recommendations, as well as help MPS to seek additional support in the business community for this effort. This work was discussed at this past Tuesday's board meeting, Nov. 13th, which was televised. Okay, on to the computer discussion. In general, I think that the use of computers for very young children is somewhat overrated. However, computers are an incredible benefit as adaptive technology for special education kids and also incredibly helpful as additional supplementation on basic reading and math skills, which is provided in the MPS through CCC and other online curriculum programs. In my own kids' case, when they were younger, I would say that they benefited from the computer phonics programs, which did a much better job of keeping their interest than paper worksheets. But the tremendous benefit from computer technology has really come in middle school and beyond. My older son took keyboarding the first semester of 7th grade, and has typed all of his papers since. In 8th grade, he took a computer applications class, and created a video documentary that was an award winning national history day project. The video was created with a digital camera and an ibook computer. I would like to hear from parents on this list about their children's experiences in the MPS with technology. The rest of this post is information I am forwarding from the MPS technology department regarding the use of computers in MPS. Our director of technology, Colleen Kosloski, writes, Students K-3 use software to help with basic skills, learn pre-research skills, some intro keyboarding skills, as well as basics of media literacy and how to express themselves with words, pictures, and graphics-- even basic concept of databases and how information is organized. For older students, computers give access to the large magazines and newspaper search databases that the state has funded free for schools and libraries, as well as access to CCC and other online curriculum programs that support basic reading and math skills, an incredible amount of lesson plans K-12 for our teachers available on the internet, plus our Classroom 2000 that allows practice lessons and test for the 8th grade reading and math test. Total instructional computers district wide are 10,804, but only 8,721 are on the network for internet and email access. Only 4,653 of those are newer computers (less than 5 years old).57% of all computers are older than 5 years. Our goal is to have the majority of computers in schools be less than 3 years old. Our district ratio of computers to students is 1 to 5 if we count all networked computers, but 1 to 10 if we count only newer computers. In High Schools, the ratio is 1 to 6 , and most of those are newer computers ( many of these are actually donations from the Computers for Schools program that are 4-5 years old). In Middle Schools, the ratio is 1 to 4, but only 32% of those are newer computers. The ratio counting only newer computers is 1 to 11. In Elementary, the ratio is 1 to 4 counting all networked computers, but only 43% of those are newer computers. The ratio of newer computers is 1 to 7. What some of the research says about technology and student achievement: The West Virginia Story: Achievement Gains http://www.mff.org/publications/publications.taf?page=155 Lesson learned: The top Technology School Districts in the Nation http://www.thejournal.com/magazine/vault/A3748.cfm NCREL's Research on Technology in Education
[Mpls] What's missing?
When I started thinking about the great restaurants and clubs that used to be in Minneapolis, I was struck by the fact that they were all men's names: Charlie's, Harry's, Freddy's, Big Al's (saw Cab Calloway there.) Oh yes, there was the Mar Key club that wasn't a man's name. Jan Del Calzo Lynnhurst ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
