RE: [Mpls] Is Minneapolis police chief Robert Olson trying to stop federal mediation?
(To wit: ONE community meeting to pick representatives? Dyna, apparently the DFL isn't the only organization that schedules conventions inconveniently.) . . . David Brauer King Field Editor, Southwest Journal & Skyway News Well, inconvenient or not, over 80% of the DFL delegates attended this convention and endorsed their candidate from a group of 8 contenders. (Including Dyna.) So why don't we forget the juvenile sarcasm and get back to discussing Minneapolis Issues, David. (Or you'll get reported to the fearsome list manager! :) Tim Bonham, Ward 12, Standish-Ericsson ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
RE: [Mpls] 3rd ward- a council seat up for auction?
Dyna, Joe is spending time with friends at the moment. We just saw Gangs of New York and are discussing the implications. Unfortunately he is unable to jump to answer your veiled accusations and desperate attempts to find a diversion to the real issues of the campaign. So I asked Joe how the literature portion of the Samuels campaign budget is constructed. He called up the stairs to me that there were five pieces mailed to a universe of about 3,000 at an average of .27/piece. No donations, no free labor; an additional 2 pieces doorknocked; on top of that were fundraising letters volunteer recruitment letters. I asked if the campaign had received any major in-kind donations or PAC funds. His answer: "No -- and as long as Don is running against the DFL, Republican and Green party endorsed candidates I don't really expect we will get any either." I also asked him why the print shop he used wasn't union and if they were huge and went to extreme lengths to keep their employees from forming a union. His answer? "No, it is a small family owned, minority owned business in the third ward doing extremely high tech digital graphics and printing. Everyone does everything in the shop and it is not conducive to the union job classifications." He noted that it never was a union shop and that the employees are paid comparable or higher then union wages. Then he went into the class implications of the movie. . . . but that is another story. So, nice try Dyna but let's get back to the issues. Michael S Guest Powderhorn PS: Don is on WCCO radio tonight. He is fantastic! ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] 3rd ward- a council seat up for auction?
Jim Graham opined: Small neighborhood printers very often are family run and operated small businesses, who only employ family members and are non-union. I think they should be able to be used for political work for that community. They also should be able to print material as a donation to a candidate. Thank you Jim, but we're having an election for the 3rd ward council seat now because the last occupant of that seat received a felony conviction for accepting a "donation" of $3,000 worth of plumbing work. If Don Samuels' campaign has been "donated" free printing of 20,000 or more 2 sided lit pieces in color on glossy paper with envelopes I think that adds up to a lot more than $3,000. Donations to Council campaigns are limited to $300 and may be made by individuals only, business donations are not allowed. If a the sole proprietor or partners in a graphics business ran off a hundred fliers for a candidate that would probably be legal. In this case we have reports that Don Samuels' campaign has had printed and mailed at least 20,000 rather expensive pieces for $5,000- a near impossibility. Don Samuels' campaign owes 3rd ward voters some answers, and I haven't heard a response from them yet. peace, Dyna Sluyter in Hawthorne p.s.: Some of the non union printers and mailhousess are quite huge, and go to extreme lengths to keep their employees from forming a union. ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] RE: No bike racks at downtown Target
Ken Bradley writes: My son wanted to browse with his holiday dollars at the new Target. I have a difficult time saying no to his requests even if I have been a critic of the city using millions of tax dollars for this project. What could I do now, its built and we might as well see what all the fuss is about. What was the final total on this project? Not a bicycle rack to be found. In the future I would hope the city officials that agree to subsidize these types of projects would also include a simple bike rack as apart of the multimillion-dollar agreement. Thank you to the Metropolitan Transit Commission for adding bike racks to the buses. We enjoyed the bus ride home. (JC) Subsidy or no subsidy, I am aghast that I must park my bike to a signpost outside of Target - how uncivilized. The number of bikes on the road and parked at busy stores is directly proportional to the civility and livability of a place. A graceful bike rack outside of Target would speak volumes to that end. The question is not whether but when Target corporation will install bike racks outside of their downtown store. Kudos to Ken for bringing up what has irked me on many occasions. If anyone from Target is reading this, do your civic duty and help get us some bike racks. Jeff Carlson, Whittier __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] 3rd Ward Race
On 12/27/02 1:08 PM, "Constance Nompelis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Some notes on the recent discussion: > > Mark Snyder said: "I do wonder if Valdis will lose > some votes because of his Republican endorsement this > time around..." > > CN: I don't really think it hurts a candidate to have > MORE support than lesIndependentsants and some > Democrats supported Valdis last time around, and this > year the MRC has joined them. Valdis is fiscally > conservative, which is a trait appreciated by most > Republicans, among others. Valdis is bringing people > together rather than splitting them apart. I apologize if my earlier comments suggested that having the Republican endorsement was a bad thing. The point I wanted to make was that historically (at least recent history), Republican candidates have not fared well in Minneapolis. I don't think anyone can really dispute that. One might conclude from that trend that Minneapolis residents generally do not agree with what they perceive to be the Republican agenda, in which case, I think my question was fair because in 2001, Valdis ran as an independent and some (especially DFLers) who supported him then might be less inclined to do so again if he's running with Republican endorsement. However, I suppose it's also possible that the lack of success among previous Republican candidates in Minneapolis might simply be a reflection of those individuals not connecting with Minneapolis voters, in which case, perhaps Valdis might be someone who could break that trend. Like I said, he certainly ought to be considered among the frontrunners. I also hope those who read W. Brandon Lacy Campos' interview with Shane Price noted that Valdis is certainly not the only candidate who supports federal mediation. And Valdis is certainly not the only candidate who recognizes the need for greater fiscal responsibility. I would argue that Shane Price's experience with working for Hennepin County makes him unique in understanding just where some of the duplications and overlaps lie among services provided by the city and the county. And as I stated earlier, while many candidates make the claim that they are the ones to unify the diverse neighborhoods of 3rd Ward, Shane Price is the one candidate in this race who has demonstrated an ability to draw support from both North and Northeast residents together in last year's 3rd Ward campaign. Not only did Shane receive roughly 50-50 support from both sides of the river in the primary, but he did so again in the general election, when 54% of his votes came from the NE precincts and 46% came from the N precincts. Valdis may be getting "great response" from Northside residents now, but I would be surprised to see him go from getting only 13% of his support from N precincts last year to getting something approaching half as Shane did. Mark Snyder Windom Park ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Brown Tones Special Issue: Brown Spotlight on Brother Shane Price
Brown Tones A Progressive Voice in Regressive Times Vol. 1 Special Issue 27 December 2002 Brown Spotlight: Brother Shane Price This Brown Spotlight was to have appeared in the December 20, 2002 issue of Brown Tones. Unfortunately, I did not receive the interview responses before I left town for the Christmas holiday. I intended to include this Brown Spotlight in the January 3, 2002 issue of Brown Tones, but due to the timeline of the impending election, I have decided to produce a special issue of Brown Tones featuring Brother Shane Price. Shane Price is the Third Ward Green Party candidate for Minneapolis City Council. In each issue of Brown Tones I will spotlight a person of color that is working for change in his or her community. Some of the people spotlighted you may know from reputation, others may be folks of whom you have never heard. But, all those spotlighted will have one thing in common: an uncompromising commitment to building a just world. Shane Price, a long time peace and justice activist from North Minneapolis, is running in a special election to replace former Minneapolis City Council member Joe Biernat who resigned after being found guilty of exploiting his office for personal gain. This is Shane Prices second run for the Minneapolis City Council. In 2001, he placed second, with 36% of the vote, to Joe Biernat. Shane Price, or Brother Shane as he is referred to by his neighbors and friends, describes himself as a peacemaker, servant leader, mediator, and community organizer. Brother Shane has worked for change in government, education, community organizations, churches, and on the street for a decade. He passionately organizes for and represents the values of social and economic justice, non-violence, grass roots democracy, and environmental wisdom. Currently, Brother Shane works for Hennepin County. He coordinates the African American Men Project (AAMP) where he manages a $500,000 budget and staff of six. Brother Shane has also developed and implemented a state and county sponsored peacemaking initiative to address child abuse and neglect issuesthe first of its kind in the country. Brother Shane also is the director and co-founder of the Social Justice and Cultural Wellness Center, a 501c3, where he has organized an annual Peace March since 1995. In his work at the Social Justice and Wellness Center and through the Peace March, Brother Shane has worked with thousands to begin healing the community from wounds caused by prostitution, murder, drugs, unemployment, and apathy. Brother Shane draws deeply on his own experience with the streets of North Minneapolis and his spiritual beliefs to paint a picture of hope and justice for the Third Ward. I greatly appreciated the chance to communicate with Brother Shanes campaign. I asked Brother Shane to respond to five short questions concerning his campaign, his work for peace and justice, city government, and communities of color in Minneapolis. Brown Tones: Currently, only one person of color, Natalie Johnson Lee, serves on the City Council. What do you believe are the major roadblocks keeping communities of color frombeing fully represented on the Council? How will you deal with serving the needs of the 3rd Wardand also being (along with CM Johnson Lee) the sole elected voices of communities of color incity government? (Communities of color currently make up roughly 35% of the population of Minneapolis). Brother Shane: I believe that people who have been historically oppressed in this country have internalized their oppression. I call this internalized oppression the "Eternal Klansman". Some of us know the "Klansman exists and some of us don't. It [Eternal Klansman] limits progress, opportunity, dreams and steals away God's gifts. For those of us who don't know it exists, it encourages negativity, laziness, procrastination, and the attitude that someone else is to fight for your rights, handle your responsibility, raise your kids, etc. because you do not believe you can do those things for yourself. People that internalize this oppression have little or no hope that there will be change. The Hope and Change message is hurry and get free. Your first chance is December 30. As one of the very few elected voices for communities of color I will offer support and agreement with Natalie Johnson Lee who is already seated and overwhelmed by hearing from people of color from every ward. They seek her assistance because she is the "only one." I would provide her with an opportunity to share the responsibility of hearing the joys and concerns of the people of the City of Minneapolis. The City of Minneapolis is a corporation. It is designed to do business and provide services on your behalf. If you are a taxpayer you are a shareholder in the corporation. As at taxpayer, you have a vested financial interest in maintaining a quality of life for your children and your community. As in
Re: [Mpls] 3rd ward-a seat/(Wo)Man Vs Machine/Meshoegosity!
In a message dated 12/27/02 9:34:24 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > So Joe, $5,000 would at best almost pay the postage. So is > the printing and presorting perhaps an in kind donation from a scab > printer and mailhouse located in the 3rd ward? Joe, what printer and > mailhouse might that be? And how much was the donation? > > Inquiring minds want to know... > > > Dyna Sluyter in Hawthorne > Keith says; Miss Sluyter: Please stop tossing dirty names at a small business in the hood. I believe an 'in kind' donation from a small, independent business surviving in the hood is sweeter money then 'Machine made money'. Much DFL Money has a "union-bug mark' on it, it is extracted from many honest hourly wage earners and can be available to buy gold plated plumbing for ' made (wo)men ' in the DFL Machine. Go ask Joe. That gold plated plumbing is financed by the union sleeper-hold on major construction contracts here in town. We all pay more and the return to union bosses, and a Machine, is huge. Why pummel an independent voice in the hood (BTW, not my first pick) and support the Machine that left you locked in your home for safety? Keith Reitman NearNorth Go Shane ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] No Bike Racks At Down Town Target!
Hello Minneapolis Folks: I spent this beautiful day biking with my son along the Mississippi; we stopped on Nicollet Island to visit a friend and headed into downtown to do a little shopping. On December 27, the bike rack at the IDS building was filled to capacity, and many sign posts were being used, the occasional garbage cans, and anything else bikers could find to lock down to as a substitute for bike racks. We have a very active biking community even during our cold winter months. My son wanted to browse with his holiday dollars at the new Target. I have a difficult time saying no to his requests even if I have been a critic of the city using millions of tax dollars for this project. What could I do now, its built and we might as well see what all the fuss is about. What was the final total on this project? Not a bicycle rack to be found. In the future I would hope the city officials that agree to subsidize these types of projects would also include a simple bike rack as apart of the multimillion-dollar agreement. Thank you to the Metropolitan Transit Commission for adding bike racks to the buses. We enjoyed the bus ride home. Ken Bradley Corcoran Neighborhood List Manager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Strib's Steve Brandt looks at the North Side Economic Development Council:http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/3557101.htmlDavid BrauerList manager___Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-DemocracyPost messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mplsDo you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now
Re: [Mpls] MCDA small business loans
How the heck can you pay $30,000 for a new boiler??? If the building where you replaced the boiler is the one just down from the Art Institute, you got screwed. Unless you replaced all the plumbing runs and radiators. Steve Meldahl Jordan (work) - Original Message - From: Kelly O'Brien To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 10:51 PM Subject: [Mpls] MCDA small business loans Thank goodness for the MCDA small business loan program! A few years ago the Hennepin History Museum needed to replace an 80+ year old boiler. With the help of the MCDA we were able to deal with this emergency by taking a loan of $30,000 to pay for the boiler--half at around 9% from Franklin Bank (our neighborhood bank) and half at 2% or so from the MCDA. This program helped us maintain our home in the Whittier neighborhood and the blended rate was something our small nonprofit budget could cope with. Thank you MCDA! Kelly O'Brien Kingfield HHM Board President
[Mpls] Matt Thoren
I would like to correct some information that I put out earlier about candidate Matt Thoren. I had been asked about his involvement in the Jordan Area Community Council which had apparently been listed in his bio or campaign information. I stated that he was not now and had not ever been involved JACC. In fact, he has informed me that between about 1989 and 1991, he was involved and attended meetings. My sincere apologies to Mr. Thoren for my error. Anne McCandless Jordan
[Mpls] third ward and then some....
I will be glad when the election is over, hopefully I will stop receiving lit from Don and Olin. Every single day..do you think that might be a bit much. Again, I wonder how a real community voice could rise above the din of the money fueling this silly stupid little race. That's when you know politics is crooked. All the money being spent for such small peanuts. Or is it the "power" associated with being the next city council member from the 'oh my' the third ward. And yes, I've sought help and I will be leaving this list, I've finally admitted I am powerless to the charms of David and his listoh my heaven's. It's been wierdthat's says alot coming from a guy like me, many crows. "You people" have some issues that are definitely not Mpls related. I wish you all the luck in the world spinning your wheels, and oh me, oh my, all the complaining, bitching, moaning and well you know.My messenger friends, strangely are better adjusted than some here. And you know who you are. Now dash away, dash away, dash away, all, before I reconsider this too damning. Damn the torpedoes.. Many Crows In the trees ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Raucuscaucus.com
In a message dated 12/27/2002 4:43:27 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I think it's coming from one of those pro-anorexic groups--they think > that Robin Garwood and Eric Makela "grossly overweight." > Maybe ther're being "humorous" (I have to admit the depiction of the DFL in the trampoline cartoon was funny, but I better not describe it - not suitable reading). Linda Mann Kingfield ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Raucuscaucus.com
I think it's coming from one of those pro-anorexic groups--they think that Robin Garwood and Eric Makela "grossly overweight." Rosalind Nelson Bancroft Andy Driscoll wrote: > > I'm prepared to speculate that this is coming from - horrors! - those who > think themselves left of the Greens in power - not the right. This entire > thing has the unmistakable stench of those calling themselves green who hate > electoral politics and keep wanting the party to abandon any claims and > aspirations to power by conventional means. > > Greens of this ilk hate the DFL more than they hate the parties on the right > and worse, disaffected DFLers who defect to the Green Party - as I once did. > > A day's monitoring of the Green Party listserv will enlighten all on this. ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Re: Third Ward~candidate issues, concerns..etc......
(VF) especially since I myself, thought you were Keith Ellison. I think you know I am BlackHaving said this are you trying to tell me that only white people support Olin??? I think if you look around, there are many other blacks that are jumping at the chance to elect Olin Moore, Including myself. JP: I've looked around, and no, I haven't noticed other Blacks, jumping at the chance, but I have REALLY noticed you and only you. Maybe because you've been one of the most vocal supporters on this list for Olin.after losing your bid for endorsement, that is. What I'm confused about is if you think Olin is such a great candidate, and the 3rd ward really needs Moore, again why you ran in the first place. Every post lately you've put on here has been about how much the 3rd Ward needs Moore. Which would seem to contradict you're running in the first place, unless the reason you ran didn't have to do with actually getting elected. I do notice that of all the Olin supporters, you're the one who is responding to the racial questions. Something, I'm sure which will change shortly after this in order to deflect this point. And I'm not quite sure how you made the leap from Olin's supporters haveing trouble telling Black people apart to no Black people support Olin. But considering your comment about also confusing me and Keith, I think you only underscored my earlier point about his supporters and perhaps shed light on yours. (VF) I really resent the fact that race has even crept into this debate. We are supposed to be about fairness for everyone, and I am sooo tried of hearing what Don Samuels can do for black males, if this is the case, let him continue to do the job unelected, or better yet why has he not done the job all over Minneapolis instead of just Jordan. JP: I don't think I even need to add anything to this (VF)But, if an endorsementis won, then oh my!, the delegates are the best friends. JP: I think you missed the point on this which wasn't a complaint that the delegates were family and friends (that's the way the game is played, and smartly if you're planning a run to get them there), but rather a praise of Don who didn't have these and yet still received enough votes to make it through the 1st Ballot. (VF) Didn't Don get the list? it was available to all that asked. I think what Dennis was saying was how many of the delegates live in the new 3rd ward. Something Greg Abbott alluded to. I think he may have been trying to get to the point of the delegates not living in the new 3rd ward since the candidates living there seemed to much of an issue. (VF) I agree, but why is it that everything you write about Olin is about somebody throwing or hosting a party, or why is it that every time you get, you try and smear him and his wife. I think maybe you haven't read my posts directly which have asked about specific policy and experience issues. The questions about parties, etc. have been in direct response to you and other supporters attacking Don and the other candidates without having the consistency of asking or expecting the same thing from Olin. And I'm not sure how relating the events that happened is trying to smear someone, unless by smear you mean tell the truth. (VF) You are right, but they are not telling me anything, they are asking me,A big difference, Well you've got to make up youre mind on this, either the people are telling [YOU] who to vote for, or they're asking for your support. More importantly, that's exactly what an endorsement is supposed to be for, to tell you who your party says you should vote for. You don't need to decide, because these 72 people have decided for you. And this is who you should vote for. So again, I'm wondering how you can feel this way and still support an endorsement. Of course, I'm still wondering why you'd run in the first place if all the 3rd Ward votes need is Moore (VF) Then where the honor in the above statement??? Especially if you think your candidate is all that and is the best voice for the community, why not let the voters decide...your words not mine. JP: We will, all of them will decide. Why is this such an issue is the question. If Olin is this great candidate, who is exactly the person the 3rd Ward needs, and can do so much more than any of the other candidates, why are any of his people wasting time attacking other candidates? If he is really the choice of everyone as you've been saying, there shouldn't even be a need to respond to anything. The people should just rise up and carry him into office. But that hasn't happened. There's been repeated slanderous attacks on Don and his campaign. For someone who supposedly isn't as good as Olin or others, he seems to be getting the most attacks. And for the record, Don's supporters have only responded to attacks, never initiated any. Again, you have to wonder about a candidate that is supposedly the bes
[Mpls] Political Mailings
Okay everyone, let's look at this in an impartial way. I just went to my mail box and gathered in the latest batch of mailings from the candidates. One flyer, very professional, large, colorful, traditional pictures of candidate shaking hands, little kids, etc. Even useful with a map of the precinct and a list of polling places, which a noticed after I picked it out of the trash can to look for the union button, which was there. Second flyer, postcard sized, catchy take off on Uncle Sam poster, Precinct number and address of polling place on the back (or front??? it's a postcard), sized to easily fit into purse or pocket and useful, even if one doesn't vote for that candidate. I'm afraid allot of people are going to go to the place they voted last, which isn't necessarily where they are supposed to vote Monday. No union button. Third one, a take off on the 12 days of whatever.non-denominational, eye catching, you want to look at it and wind up reading it. Very unique. No union button. Now don't get me wrong. My father was a Teamster for over 50 years. His father owned a coal company in NE Mpls during the 30's and 40's and made dad sign up, even paid his dues for him during the War. Union wages and benefits supported me growing up and I later was a member of the Teamsters for a few years myself. But I cannot see knocking the small printer just because they aren't union. I know that three pieces of printing are not a good example of the business as a whole. I also know that the designers of these pieces may or may not also work for the printer. That said, if I were trying to grab attention and get my message out, I have to go with #2 or #3. Again, I'm no expert, just a voter. Anne McCandless Jordan
Re: [Mpls] MCDA small business loans - How do I get one?
This reply is so off the mark. Just check into the reality of who receives these funds before you mock them. I understand that they are not your neighborhood businesses in North Oaks, but many receipients are vibrant, successful,for-profit businesses run by solid business people who are valued by many residents of Minneapolis for the services/goods that they provide. Sheila Delaney Lyndale, Ward 10 From: "Victoria Heller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mpls Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Mpls] MCDA small business loans - How do I get one? Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 13:32:17 -0600 I probably don't qualify, because. I have no experience at losing money. I have excellent credit. I have never defaulted on a commitment. I create new, private sector jobs. I actually pay taxes. I have never run a non-profit organization. I don't waste money. My business idea is a winner. I don't need anyone else's property - I already own it. Despite these obstacles, I'll give it a try - because it's always preferable to use someone else's money when pretending to take a risk. So here's the deal - I want to open a new shop called.. "Beauty Bar - Martinis and Makeovers" I'll call the MCDA on Monday to see what I need to do to get this show on the road. Stay tuned. Vicky Heller Cedar-Riverside and North Oaks ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_virusprotection_3mf ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] MCDA small business loans - How do I get one?
I probably don't qualify, because. I have no experience at losing money. I have excellent credit. I have never defaulted on a commitment. I create new, private sector jobs. I actually pay taxes. I have never run a non-profit organization. I don't waste money. My business idea is a winner. I don't need anyone else's property - I already own it. Despite these obstacles, I'll give it a try - because it's always preferable to use someone else's money when pretending to take a risk. So here's the deal - I want to open a new shop called.. "Beauty Bar - Martinis and Makeovers" I'll call the MCDA on Monday to see what I need to do to get this show on the road. Stay tuned. Vicky Heller Cedar-Riverside and North Oaks ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: Re: FW: [Mpls] 3rd ward- a council seat up for auction?
- Original Message - From: Vince Washburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 11:51 AM Subject: Fwd: Re: FW: [Mpls] 3rd ward- a council seat up for auction? > What is the difference between a union and scab > printer and why is one better than the other? Vince the difference is the union bug at the bottom of the printed material piece. This denotes it was printed by "Union" labor. It is supposed to be the litmus test for liberal democrats. If it is not there you are supposed to vote against the person. I am a democrat but I really take exception to the "Scab printer" remark. Small neighborhood printers very often are family run and operated small businesses, who only employ family members and are non-union. I think they should be able to be used for political work for that community. They also should be able to print material as a donation to a candidate. Scab usually denotes labor that replaces legitimate Union labor during labor conflicts with management; in order to break the union. It is NOT supposed to be for non-union shop employees. What about non-union labor working at a regular job that is sometimes paid more and have at least as good benefits as a union shop? Are they scabs also? I think not. While I think Olin Moore would be a great addition to the City Council, and I have seen some of Don Samuel's "outside" supporters on the other side of this DFL litmus test making other different "DFL" commitments, I see nothing wrong with a legitimate business making a legitimate contribution of printing labor. I also think Don Samuel's campaign has nothing to be ashamed of it uses printers within that community. Is there a competing "Union" printer in North Minneapolis? What could possibly be wrong with patronizing your own communities businesspeople and your friends. The DFL needs to take a serious look at this test, and make an exception for those using "businesses" in their own communities . People should refrain from calling legitimate small businesses and those working in our communities "Scabs". I think "Non-Union" would have been quite enough for those who care about such things. Jim Graham, Ventura Village - South Minneapolis but still affected by who the 3rd Ward folks elect. (So do a good job) The people are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty. - Thomas Jefferson ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] 3rd Ward Race
Some notes on the recent discussion: Mark Snyder said: "I do wonder if Valdis will lose some votes because of his Republican endorsement this time around..." CN: I don't really think it hurts a candidate to have MORE support than lesIndependentsants and some Democrats supported Valdis last time around, and this year the MRC has joined them. Valdis is fiscally conservative, which is a trait appreciated by most Republicans, among others. Valdis is bringing people together rather than splitting them apart. Then Robert Yorga said that Valdis is "hardly known in the north...[and]...understands very little of whatactuallyally happening over there." CN: I'm not sure why Robert thinks Valdis isn't known in the north. We've had great responses from the north residents and neighborhood groups. It helps, additionally, that Valdis is the only candidate (to my knowledge) who is actively working to promote federal mediation between the police and community members - an effort which will directly impact north neighborhoods in a positive manner. Robert also said of Valdis: "At least he's beholden to the Republicans. At least he would probably look at a situation and give it some thought, not needing to be told what to do." CN: I think maybe Robert meant to say that Valdis is NOT beholden to the Republicans? (Otherwise the statements don't really make sense together.) As previous Deputy Chair of the MRC (currently on leave to work on this campaign) I can say that no one is ever beholden to the Minneapolis Republicans... we don't operate that way. The MRC endorses based upon qualifications, as I would hope the other city parties do. We do our best to determine whether a candidate will be able to advance the agenda of fiscal responsibility and common sense governance, and if it seems that they can, we endorse. I think it's important to note that we have Independents, Democrats, and Republicans all working together to elect Valdis. This campaign is about bridging gaps and working through differences. Valdis is reaching out to the entire ward, and his efforts are being met with positive responses all over. Happy Holidays, Connie Nompelis Friends for Valdis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-623-4005 __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Raucouscaucus.com
The green trampoline cartoon is hilarity.
If you take offense, then may I suggest a refresher course in the "Get your war
On" school of sarcasm and satire.
http://www.mnftiu.cc/mnftiu.cc/war.html
Please try and accept this work for what it is. Or, if you feel that our current
state of politics is lacking in vice or folly then just ignore this kind of
thing, and by all means, don't take it personally. Keep your eyes on the road,
things are just fine.
Conor Donnelly
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Dana Bacon wrote:
> Linda Mann hits the nail on the head when she asks
> raucouscaucus.com to do more than complain about the
> weather. As a Minneapolis DFLer, I gladly admit to
> belonging to an imperfect party. However, its a party
> that takes Minneapolis well-being seriously, as I
> would like to think most people do. If
> raucouscaucus.com wishes to provide a constructive
> satirical service to Minneapolis, it might consider
> adding a mirror to its list of writing tools.
>
> Dana Bacon
> Page neighborhood
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Re: [Mpls] Federal Mediation
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The other group named the Community Negotiating Team was formed at a community meeting. 80 community members attended this meeting; they elected the CNT to represent the community in Federal Mediation. WM: This is a hard thing to understand Zack. The original request was made by the Ministerial Alliance (MA). There appeared to be no follow-up on the part of the city. However, next thing we know, a mediator from D.C. has time available to do federal mediation. It seems to me that her appearance could indicate that something was done. Inquiries were made and the result was the appearance of a federal mediator. I would say that the MA was taken quite seriously. But Zack, you have only described that the MA made the request, not that in making the request they had somehow established themselves as a legitimately elected community group. This left the community with two legitimate groups of representatives. The ministerial Alliance is willing to merge with the CNT and become a mediation team that is respected and recognized by the community as a whole. The CNT however has declined to merge. This action by the CNT has mediation for the city of Minneapolis in serious jeopardy. The process is voluntary and the city may pull out at any time. The city has said that it is committed to assuring that the entire community respects and recognizes the community negotiating team. If they are not, mediation will not happen. WM: It would be important for me to know why the CNT declined. Looking from this distance, it looks as though, at the election meeting, members of the MA walked out for one reason or another, thereby not getting elected to the team. If I had been there and elected by the community, I would have declined as did the CNT. They walked away. I would love to be a member of the CNT, but I didn't have the time to devote to the issue when it emerged. However, I'd be kicking myself in the butt for having walked out had Idone what the MA did. The merged team of representatives would be comprised of the African American, Somali, Latino/Hispanic, Asian, Native American, GLBT, African Immigrant, Community Service Organizations and Clergy. The total number of this team would be 18. WM: Who comprises the team as the result of the election? That's the team. My question is this, who thinks that the two mediation teams should merge and become one team that the Federal mediator recognizes as the communities negotiating team? Who supports such a merger? WM: Regardless of what groups or who I think would make the dream team, this is the team we get due to our own negligence or mistakes. I cannot override the election. Are you saying that the position of the MA is that unless they are seated they will work to make sure that the mediation does not happen or cannot be effective? That's pretty hard core. It also overrides the 75 other people who took the time to organize and be there and stay to vote their consciences. It makes the MA look really bad. I trusted that those who turned out for the vote were those who had advocated long and hard for a change in the way poor communities of color and police deal with each other. This mediation is step one of many, many steps and will take at least a generation to inculcate. This mediation is an opportunity for police and community to actually listen to each other and to implement solutions which could improve peoples' lives. Is the MA willing to crush this hope simply because it's four members were not included? Maybe I'm over-dramatizing here, but this is the feeling I get from what you have said here. WizardMarks, Central ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Fwd: Re: FW: [Mpls] 3rd ward- a council seat up for auction?
> > dyna > > > what's > > you're secret? Scab printers usually charge about > > the same as the > > union printers, so there's no cost saving there. I > > thusly suspect the > > only reason for going to a scab printer is to > thumb > > the candidate's > > nose at union folks. And yes, the piece was > > presorted, but even if > > the mailing is fully carrier route presorted the > > Postal service will > > still charge at least 25 cents/piece to mail it. > > What is the difference between a union and scab printer and why is one better than the other? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Spelling bee
Metro spellers cut out of spelling bee Allie Shah Star Tribune http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/3557115.html Allie Shah clarified in an e-mail "the Scripps Howard organization has very strict rules about who can sponsor a bee. According to their rules, only a newspaper or media organization can sponsor the local spelling bees that qualify students for the national contest." The Star Trib and PP don't sponsor spelling bees. Maybe our community newspapers and their advertisers will take up the slack. Maybe the corporate partners in our MPS schools would partner with community newspapers and fund the spelling bee costs. Who cares if the kids win - let's get them fired up about words for a bit! Shawne FitzGerald Powderhorn ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] 3rd ward- a council seat up for auction?
On Tuesday Jonathan Palmer wrote about Don Samuel's campaign: Over the last five days his campaign has mailed over 20,000 pieces of literature into the Ward. Today you state: . The total printing and mailing budget was less then $5,000 and we are within budget. 20,000 pieces for $5,000= 25 cents a piece! Joe, what's you're secret? Scab printers usually charge about the same as the union printers, so there's no cost saving there. I thusly suspect the only reason for going to a scab printer is to thumb the candidate's nose at union folks. And yes, the piece was presorted, but even if the mailing is fully carrier route presorted the Postal service will still charge at least 25 cents/piece to mail it. So Joe, $5,000 would at best almost pay the postage. So is the printing and presorting perhaps an in kind donation from a scab printer and mailhouse located in the 3rd ward? Joe, what printer and mailhouse might that be? And how much was the donation? Inquiring minds want to know... Dyna Sluyter in Hawthorne ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Raucouscaucus.com
Linda Mann hits the nail on the head when she asks raucouscaucus.com to do more than complain about the weather. As a Minneapolis DFLer, I gladly admit to belonging to an imperfect party. However, its a party that takes Minneapolis well-being seriously, as I would like to think most people do. If raucouscaucus.com wishes to provide a constructive satirical service to Minneapolis, it might consider adding a mirror to its list of writing tools. Dana Bacon Page neighborhood __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Federal Mediation
The ministerial Alliance team is 2 Native Americans, 1 Somali, 1 Asian, 1 Latino/Hispanic, 1 Clergy, 1 African American, 1 African Immigrant, and City Inc. Also note that not all CNT members were elected at the R. Green meeting. Meeting participants were told that the Latino/Hispanic, Asian and Somali communities had selected their reps sometime before the meeting. The question is, will we let Federal Mediation go because the community cannot pull together? Zachary Metoyer 8th ward Minneapolis ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Raucuscaucus.com
I'm happy to report that I've been invited to publish on this site. Watch for several new series - Translating the ? (Wishy washy weenie words) Left Brain/Right Brain: Debates between the Feeling/Thinking People Minneapolis Whistleblowers aren't just Whistling Dixie any more! DooDoo Economics You know your in Minneapolis when... (there's NO traffic on government holidays!) Vicky Heller (aka Plucky Pucker) Cedar-Riverside and North Oaks ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Toy donations
Post-Christmas, we find ourselves with an embarrassment of kid toys. We'd like to find a good Minneapolis place to donate some (in good condition, of course). I remember Wizard mentioning a "toy lending library" of some sort - I'd like more specific info on that. Also, other good city organizations, please, with contact info if you can. Feel free to reply to me directly, or the list. Thanks, David Brauer King Field ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
RE: [Mpls] Re: Is Police Chief tryng to stop mediation...
Tim Connolly followed up my City Pages post with one "aye" and two "nays." I'd like to clarify one of Tim's nays... > I don't find the article melodramatic. Believe me this > is pretty serious, dare I say, dramatic to those who > face the continual humiliation of racial profiling or > loss of life due to excessive use of force. My original post tried to stress that only the packaging (headline) and emphasis (Olson) was melodramatic. I think overall, G.R. did a good job getting many perspectives in - so good that the headline and the phrase "divisive trick" stood out. Of course, the whole subject is (literally) deadly serious. All the more reason not to leap to inflammatory conclusions unless the facts are solid. Tim's larger point, about how the community picks its representatives and Olson's need to stay away from that, is an excellent response to my criticism of the Community Negotiating Team, as is Shawn Lewis's follow-up. I appreciate the eyewitness insights. I'll ponder their points, and let others suss out responsibility for now. But it's always great when the list can contribute sources we journalists didn't have time/space for. David Brauer King Field ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Community Negotiating Team is legitimate, Coalition of BlackChurches is not
I was asked to be a community observer to witness the meeting that took place at the Marriott Hotel on Tuesday, December 17, 2002. Others were present as well, Booker T. Hodges IV and Travis Lee, for instance. The purpose of this meeting was for the 9 member Community Negotiating Team (CNT) to listen to the concerns of this group called, "Black Ministerial Alliance" aka Coalition of Black Churches/African American Leadership Summit. At their side of the table, Rev. Randy Staten, Rev. Jerry McAfee, Rev. Clarence Hightower and Rev. Albert Gallmon. Plus, Keesha Gaskins of the Mpls NAACP and Harry "Spike" Moss, City, Inc. Presiding over this meeting was Senior Federal Mediator, Patricia Campbell Glenn. Basically, CNT voted (7-2) to not allow the merger of the two groups. Looking back on the community selection process, Ms. Gaskin made a decision not to come to the Nov 19th meeting to pick community representatives, Mpls Urban League walked out, Spike Moss stated over the summer that Federal Mediation was a "waste of time." so he did not show up, either. Now, however, he wants into the process like Zachary Metoyer who recently quit, but now wants back in. By the way, the media does not want to report the fact that the Mpls Urban League has on its Board of Directors a Deputy Mpls Police Officers, named Gregory S. Hestnes (http://www.mul.org/leadership.cfm)see for yourself. Have a happy new year. Shawn Lewis, Field Neigbhorhood -- ___ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Meet Singles http://corp.mail.com/lavalife ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] MCDA small business loans
Thank goodness for the MCDA small business loan program! A few years ago the Hennepin History Museum needed to replace an 80+ year old boiler. With the help of the MCDA we were able to deal with this emergency by taking a loan of $30,000 to pay for the boiler--half at around 9% from Franklin Bank (our neighborhood bank) and half at 2% or so from the MCDA. This program helped us maintain our home in the Whittier neighborhood and the blended rate was something our small nonprofit budget could cope with. Thank you MCDA! Kelly O'Brien Kingfield HHM Board President
[Mpls] Article: MN Spokesman: Leaders of African American Community
Where do community leaders come from? By: Booker T Hodges Minnesota Spokesman-Recorder Originally posted 12/24/2002 Who picks the leaders of the African American community? Is it me? Is it you? Is it the community? Or is it whoever gets to the media first when something unfortunate happens in the African American community? Lastly, what gives anyone the right to stand in front of the camera and say that he or she represents the African American community? I feel that it is important that these questions be answered. During the past two weeks, I and 10 others went around the Twin Cities area asking people the question, Who are the leaders in the African American community in the Twin Cities area? We went to shopping malls, downtown areas during lunch hours, night clubs and street corners. http://www.spokesman-recorder.com/News/Article/Article.asp?NewsID=20552&sID=16 Booker T. Hodges welcomes reader comments to bookert@ bookertforgovernor.com http://www.spokesman-recorder.com Shawn Lewis, Field Neighborhood -- ___ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Meet Singles http://corp.mail.com/lavalife ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
RE: [Mpls] 3rd ward- a council seat up for auction? No.
List, As the person helping to coordinate Don's mailings I must protest Dyna's false allusions and numbers. Don's campaign budget for the City Council is a reasonable amount in the $7,000/range. The total printing and mailing budget was less then $5,000 and we are within budget. Our per piece cost is not fundamentally different from the cost of the 3+ DFL endorsed candidate's full color postcards which have been mailed to voters. Don does not putting any of his own money into the race. Our fundraising from neighborhood supports has been more generous. His ability to connect with people has made him remarkable successfully, especially in light of not receiving any of the PAC money available to party endorsed candidates. A total of five holiday cards were sent to a target list of likely voters. These holiday cards played on a variety of primarily secular holiday songs. They were designed by someone with a Jewish background, and reviewed by a full scope of third ward residents from different cultural and religious backgrounds. People found them a humorous way to introduce a candidate to the voter during the middle of a festive holiday season. My favorite was the "Silent Night - Silent Night" card. My partner's favorite was the "12 Days" piece. Most of all I would like to defend our designer and printer whom Dyna referred to as "scab". Our printer is a minority-owned business located in the heart of the North Minneapolis portion of the Third Ward. We chose our printer to reflect Don's commitment to the small businesses of the Third Ward. The majority of the employees of the digital design and print company live in the Third Ward. They are paid a competitive wage. This state-of-the-art company is a dynamic shop of people working on the cutting edge of digital media production. They are an incredible asset to the North and Northeast community. Don is proud to have had an opportunity to utilize their talent. They made a significant contribution to the campaign's ability to introduce Don to a broader audience. A budget in a campaign is a double-edge sword. If a candidate is unsuccessful raising sufficient funds to mount a credible campaign they are accused of not being a serious contender -- if too much is raised they are susceptible to challenges I hope that Don strikes the balance which is reflective of his values. Joseph Barisonzi Lyndale BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Barisonzi;Joseph FN:Joseph Barisonzi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ORG:CommunityLeader.com TITLE:Community Knowledge Specialist TEL;WORK;VOICE:612-518-5536 EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REV:20021022T222414Z END:VCARD
