Re: Report of Nishi's lecture updated.
I'm willing to take them offline, no problemo, although they are publised on other sites too, already. Yes, you're right, but you're not a sheep, are you? *grin* Seriously, I don't want you to take them offline. I don't see any harm in publishing them. It is actually quite interesting for the people who weren't there. I ONLY want to tell you what the japanese people thought of it. Anne -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Secam question (Was Re: All in one reply)
Hi Guys Girls, Perhaps I can shed some light on the subject. The difference between PAL, NTSC and SECAM is the way the colour is 'encoded' in the signal. The difference between N, M, BG and I is the space (in MHz) between the picture and sound signal (it varies (if memory serves) between 4 and 5.5 MHz). Some small remarks: - All standards can be broadcasted in 50 and 60 Hz, but NTSC is typically broadcasted in 60 Hz, while PAL and SECAM are typically broadcasted in 50 Hz. - As far as I know ALL TV's that can handle SECAM can also handle PAL - RGB (or YUV) are not (colour) coded, so if your monitor/TV can't handle the CVBS (or YC) signal, using RGB (or YUV) is the best solution. Regards, Jeroen Smael FutureDisk Homepage: http://www.futuredisk.msxnet.org/ -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Background AAaaarrrgggh
I talk to some people on the fair about the background I published a few days ago. Apparently I made a little mistake when uploading and I did send the URL of a beta-background out to this list. I fixed the error (the windows FTP-client had put the newer version with a first capital letter on the server :-(( ) , and urge all of you to download the newer, good, official etc etc version from http://msx.gnu-linux.net/msxcollage.png I redid the bottom of the picture and this one looks much much much better. David Heremans -- We are sorry, you have reached an imaginary number. Please rotate your phone through 90 degrees and try again. -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Report of Nishi's lecture updated.
Hmmm, here I state that ASCII will be giving more attention to ROM-images on the internet. But everyone still using the MSX nowadays has almost any ROM of disk image ever published. This makes it very hard to control copyrights even if the revival projects will attract a lot of new users. IMO, the MSX server can only be successfull if it doesn't just thrive on old software but offers something new as well. This may be original new games, ports of Gameboy games and (for European users) maybe even English translations of old Japanese games. Pierre -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Report of Nishi's lecture updated.
I have made a sound recording of the whole lecture (without the questions asked afterwards) and digitized it. Compressed into 16kHz MP3 format, the 50 minute recording takes only about 6MB. Since I sat right in front of mr. Nishi during the lecture, the sound quality is reasonably good (although there is some loss from compression). I'd like to put this file on line for everyone who could not attend 'Tilburg', but where should I send it? Does www.msx.org have the capacity for it? Who wants it? Pierre -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Report of Nishi's lecture updated.
Euhmm well don't you think that would be the first course of action if ASCII really wanted to go through with this plan? Judging by this and some of the vague answers I'd guess these plans exist in Nishi's head instead of in the ASCII main office.. That's exactly the impression I got. Nishi stated at the beginning that the retired as vice-president of ASCII and didn't mention ASCII in his whole new-MSX story... Eric -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
RE: Report of Nishi's lecture updated.
I have some webspace left :) so if you can send it to me, I can put it online... Pepijn [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 16163739 |I have made a sound recording of the whole lecture (without the questions |asked afterwards) and digitized it. Compressed into 16kHz MP3 |format, the 50 |minute recording takes only about 6MB. Since I sat right in front of mr. |Nishi during the lecture, the sound quality is reasonably good (although |there is some loss from compression). I'd like to put this file on line for |everyone who could not attend 'Tilburg', but where should I send it? Does |www.msx.org have the capacity for it? Who wants it? | |Pierre -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
MSX.org is back up
Well, seems that the monday morning coffee finally woke up the people at our provider. They discovered that we (and all their other customers) were offline for 24 hours at least! Anywayz, we're up again. Expect it to be offline for a day or so in the near future too. That will be when move our asses from the crappy servers of esearch to a better provider ;) greets Bart -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: SVI738 MSX upgrade problems
Hi Thanks to Hans Otten!!! I grounded pin 1 and it works! Bit of a bugger but my keyboard layout is nou different! I'll probably have to live with it? JP Grobler [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22 Apr 2001 19:33:54 +0200, in local.msx.int you wrote: Pin 1 on the 27512 is adress line 15 Pin 1 on the 27256 it is Vpp Should it be grounded? On 22 Apr 2001 18:43:19 +0200, in local.msx.int you wrote: Hi, The ROM should work. Are you sure about pin one removal wil do the trick? It should be tied permanently to either ground or +5V, not left just not connected. I am sure the pin layouts are on the web somewhere, at least in the EPROM related articles by Elektuur in the do it yourself -magazines section of my webpage. The EPROM in statische geheugenuitbreiding discuuses just this subject. Hans www.geocities.com/msxhans PS Cd is on its way tomorrow! -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
New msx to use bluetooth?
Hi Just wondered how is the wireles coms goiing to work? Bluetooth? JP GRobler -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: SD Snatcher SCC
At 00:13 23-4-01 +0200, you wrote: Hi, If you trade your music module for an SCC you're 'nuts'.. Please do some investigation first of what you are trading.. SCCs are not that hard to get (I actually saw a nemesis 3 cartridge for sale in tilburg).. Just ask for an SCC in this mailinglist but don't trade it for your music module, you'll regret it for sure. Hmm... I think he wants to trade the Music Module for a SD-Snatcher Sound Cartridge. And that module contains a SCC+ with D-RAM. That's something different to a normal SCC. GreeTz, BiFi Visit my Home Page at www.bifi.msxnet.org mail me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FTP: ftp.bifi.msxnet.org ICQ #36126979 -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Report of Nishi's lecture updated.
Hi, I have one tip for you.. It's better to digitize the sound at 22 or 44 Khz if that would result in better quality. MP3 is based on two things, input quality sound and output bitrate.. The output bitrate is set but the better the input signal the better the output will be without actually increasing file-size (up to a certain point of course). - Original Message - From: Pierre Gielen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 9:01 AM Subject: Re: Report of Nishi's lecture updated. I have made a sound recording of the whole lecture (without the questions asked afterwards) and digitized it. Compressed into 16kHz MP3 format, the 50 minute recording takes only about 6MB. Since I sat right in front of mr. Nishi during the lecture, the sound quality is reasonably good (although there is some loss from compression). I'd like to put this file on line for everyone who could not attend 'Tilburg', but where should I send it? Does www.msx.org have the capacity for it? Who wants it? Pierre -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Report of Nishi's lecture updated.
there is some loss from compression). I'd like to put this file on line for everyone who could not attend 'Tilburg', but where should I send it? Does www.msx.org have the capacity for it? Who wants it? I think almost everyone wants it. I really hope you'll find some webspace to publish it on, so we can all download it. Anne -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: SD Snatcher SCC
Hi, That could be the case.. But no harm in warning someone for that.. - Original Message - From: Albert Beevendorp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 9:55 AM Subject: Re: SD Snatcher SCC At 00:13 23-4-01 +0200, you wrote: Hi, If you trade your music module for an SCC you're 'nuts'.. Please do some investigation first of what you are trading.. SCCs are not that hard to get (I actually saw a nemesis 3 cartridge for sale in tilburg).. Just ask for an SCC in this mailinglist but don't trade it for your music module, you'll regret it for sure. Hmm... I think he wants to trade the Music Module for a SD-Snatcher Sound Cartridge. And that module contains a SCC+ with D-RAM. That's something different to a normal SCC. GreeTz, BiFi Visit my Home Page at www.bifi.msxnet.org mail me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FTP: ftp.bifi.msxnet.org ICQ #36126979 -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Dutch article about Nishi's plans
After visiting the MSX fair, I just couldn't resist writing an article about Nishi's plans for the revival of MSX, especially since there were no journalists present (except from PC Active). The article (in Dutch) is now online at: http://www.nederland-digitaal.nl/maincomputerzone.php Pierre -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
RE: SVI738 MSX upgrade problems
Yes, tie it to ground. Never a good idea to leave a pin floating. Hopefully the programmer knew what he was doing and programmed it in such this way. -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
OPG rs232 interface for Telcom
Hi, Saterday at the Tilburg fair I picked up (for free!) a little addon device for the Telcom 2 modem. I had heard of it (OPG is a wholesale pharmacy company, having MSX'es with these TElcoms given to people to connect to the company) so I was pleased to obtain it. Vaguely i remembered having somewhere a description of the connectors (two DIN and a box connector). But I can not find it in the usual magazine and files I try to look up these kind of info. Does anyone know how to connect a RS232 cable to these connectors? Hans -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Tilburg 2001 great success, lecture by Kazuhiko Nishi, ASCII Corporation
Hi, Just returned from a very interesting visit to the Tilburg 2001 meeting. Lots of people, lots of interesting to pick up for my MSX collection, lots of fun. The lecture by Kazuhiko Nishi, ASCII Corporation at the Tilburg fair was very interesting. Entertaining, lots of background information on how MSX was conceived (MSX means Machines (hardware) with Software eXchangeability). Also news about the upcoming MSX activities by ASCII. such as MSX Player, the emulator and MSX-on-a-single-chip. It will not be the MSX as we know it! Others will undoubtly report more and better on what else Mr Nishi said, I just have scanned and put the lecture notes as handed out online. www.geocities.com/msxhans Have fun, Hans -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Major update of MSXHans Forever
Hi, MSXHans is back online with new information! http://www.geocities.com/msxhans After many months of collecting,sorting, scanning I have enough material to update my MSXHans Forever web pages. The themes are: - hardware information, software, magazine articles and (service) manuals) of the SVI 738 Xpress, NMS 8250/55/80 and the Sony HB-G900P - software information, compilers, magazine articles on (mostly Turbo Pascal) programming - Do it Yourself with MSX: use the MSX to interface with the outside world. Many articles, books and other useful information how to let the MSX control the world Thanks to (not a complete list!) for support and contributions Manuel Bilderbeek Hans Oranje JP Grobler Willem van der Werf Eric Boon Henk Braamkolk The site is (ofcourse) not perfect. I hope to find a new home soon more stable than geocities. If you get an error, look at the alternatives given on the main pages. If you have additional information (for example the Elktuur Book on Robots and MSX) please help me! I hope to help the MSX survive by providing this information. And alas, much of the information is in dutch only. Do not ask for translation, I do not have the skills or time for that. Hans -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
RE: SVI738 MSX upgrade problems
Hi, The ROM should work. Are you sure about pin one? I am sure the pin layouts are on the web somewhere, at least in the EPROM related articles by Elektuur in teh do it yourself -magazines section of my webpage Hans www.geocities.com/msxhans -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
RE: New msx to use bluetooth?
Yes, Wireless LAN. A bit vaque answer to the question whether it is Bluetooth. -Original Message- From: JP Grobler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 23 April 2001 09:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: New msx to use bluetooth? Hi Just wondered how is the wireles coms goiing to work? Bluetooth? JP GRobler -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
RE: SVI738 MSX upgrade problems
Hm, I am going to check why my recent emails appeared just now and not when I send them. Others did make it to the list Sorry for the overload and repeated information. Hans -Original Message- From: Hans Otten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 22 April 2001 18:31 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: SVI738 MSX upgrade problems Hi, The ROM should work. Are you sure about pin one? I am sure the pin layouts are on the web somewhere, at least in the EPROM related articles by Elektuur in teh do it yourself -magazines section of my webpage Hans www.geocities.com/msxhans -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Report of Nishi's lecture updated.
Btw, did nobody notice that msxplayer.com, .org, .net and msxserver.com, .org, .net are all still free? Did you notice that msx.net is not free, but www.msx.net is? Grtjs, Manuel PS: MSX 4 EVER! (Questions? The Ultimate MSX FAQ: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/) PPS: Visit my home page at http://bilderbeek.cjb.net/ -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
one-chip MSX (was Re: Pictures of Tilburg 2001 (today) added to site)
Sean Young wrote: On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 11:55:03PM +0200, Patriek Lesparre wrote: MSX is more than the MSX hardware. MSX is more than the MSX software. MSX is also a philosophy. What do you mean exactly? In the meeting on Sunday 22nd the 'MSX philosophy' was mentioned quite a few times. It's about education, ease of use, flexibility etc. There are problems though, because what Nishi told us about the FPGA/PLD design that would cost 10$-20$ was not quite accurate. With CURRENT technology such a design would cost about $200 per chip, while an ASIC design costs 10$ but has to be manufactured at least 10 million times. Who knows what the technology will be like in 2 years. PLD technology has improved fenominally (both in capabilities and price) in the last 2 years so if the trend continues, Nishi's words may be right. Also, Nishi is a Professor at MIT University where he will work on a project that should make PLD chips far more cheaper than today. He really has everything planned out, and the timing seems perfect. Ofcourse people today are laughing at Nishi. But history proves everytime people laugh at Nishi for a crazy idea, he eventually succeeds! Because the one-chip MSX will be used in 3rd world countries and such, it will have to be very cheap, because the governments must buy it. Normal people in those countries are too poor. So it's possible 2 versions will be made. One cheap ASIC design and one more expensive PLD design. Software from the ASIC design can run on the PLD, but if you create software that reprograms the PLD it ofcourse can't run on the ASIC. Basically, because the an ASIC is fixed, the ASIC one-chip-MSX is actually nothing more than a very cheap one-chip-PC with hardware MSX emulation. But the PLD version is far closer to the MSX philosophy, and in my opinion worthy to carry the name 'MSX'. The Japanese feel the same way. The PLD design allows one to program their OWN HARDWARE! Ofcourse not everybody has to be able to do that. For instance, if one person writes a MoonSound hardware, you can download it from the MSX Server (for a certain amount of money) and *BAM* you have a MoonSound in your one-chip-MSX. It's also really good for emulation, for instance you can create the Gameboy Advance (soon to be released in Europe/USA) VDP and Sound hardware in PLD and use the ARM9 core to emulate the GBA CPU (which is a ARM7 by the way ^_^). Really the possibilities are infinite. Because of this, the PLD design can last much longer than an ASIC version. An ASIC version would be obsolete sooner because it's totally fixed. If you want new hardware functions (maybe a 3D engine) you have to create it in software, using CPU power. But with the PLD design you can program the 3D engine in hardware so the CPU can make full use of its power for other purposes. Now, most people want a new PC every 3 years. With an ASIC one-chip-MSX that may also be the case, but a PLD version last longer because of its flexibility. I'm really convinced this one-chip MSX using an ARM9 core is the best thing ever. It's truly limitless in possibilities! Yes, but since you got an ARM9 and FPGA -- why write software for the old system? It would be a waste of cycles to begin with. The possibilities are endless with a fast CPU and FPGA, so you'll write stuff for that. First of all, don't forger the MSX Player (the ASCII emulator). If a succes, it will run on millions of cellphones/PDA's/laptops/desktops/etc. so if you create software for the old architecture you have an instant market of millions. While if you program the one-chip-MSX only those with a one-chip-MSX will be able to buy your software. The MSX Player improves transition between old and new architecture in the way I described above and also people will start to remember MSX again and will be more likely to buy a one-chip-MSX when it's out. Nasu (Yokoi) told about Sharp and their Zaurus PDA. They developed 2 games for it, 1st was Space Invaders and 2nd Pacman. The games sold for $20 and they were sold out within 3 days (do I remember this correctly, please someone who was present Sunday correct me on this). So the market for these games is huge, even though you can download such games on the internet for free. When Nasu told Sharp about the MSX software library, which is between 4000-7000 they totally flipped out! ^_^ Also MSX games are very small. You can send an MSX game in notime at 9600bps which is the current cellphone standard. Also on the new MSX design was a SD-card slot. It's a very small memory card by Panasonic ranging from 16MB to 1GB. Nasu met with Panasonic people, and when he told them how much MSX games could fit on the smallest SD card (16MBytes) the Panasonic person went on his knees and said HELP ME! ^_^ There seems to be very good support by the big companies. Sharp will be happy because they'll have lots of games for their PDA's. So the PDA will sell more. Then Panasonic
one-chip-MSX part 2 (was Re: Pictures of Tilburg 2001 (today) added to site)
Maarten ter Huurne wrote: Nishi stated that they didn't have to program MSX, they could choose freely. In practice, this means most developers will choose Intend, because it's easy (compared to plain Linux) and powerful (compared to MSX). And ofcourse you don't have to program Intent either, you can program Linux, or you can choose to go around every OS and write to the hardware directly! It's just like the current MSX where you disable the BIOS, or write your own interrupt handlers. As I understood it, the FPGA only handles the performance sensitive parts of MSX emulation, like the VDP and the sound chips. Things like memory, I/O to peripherals, disk emulation etc could be done by the ARM core. I saw a Z80 used as I/O processor on Nishi's design. Respects go to Nishi though... even though he seems to claim that he invented the wheel from time to time. I had that feeling too; the connection between MPEG and MSX is still unclear to me... It's simple. ASCII/Nishi was involved in streaming video, to be run from normal single speed CD-ROM's (150kB/s). At the time JPEG was working on Motion-JPEG, but Nishi said it was bad and they needed a very low bandwidth solution. It's partly because of Nishi's pressure that work on MPEG and MPEG Audio started. That's the connection with MSX. It's a fact the CD-ROM was originally developed for MSX and that the PC-versions were created later! Philips didn't name their MSX2 computers 'New Media System' for nothing! Philips' vision was always to create a multimedia CD-ROM based computer like their CD-i (which flopped). Nishi said that it is possible to create an MSX cartridge adaptor using the USB 2.0 connection, but he clearly did not make a commitment that ASCII would produce such an adaptor. I think he said it was probable some company would produce something like that. Anyway, who needs diskdrives when we have the memory cards and internet! Greetz, Patriek -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
crusoe
Hi, http://www.crusoe.com/ Isn't this largely the same thing as the PLD-type thingie Nishi mentioned? Greetings, Collin -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
FPGA programming (was Re: MSX Revival Project - One Chip MSX)
Laurens Holst wrote: I don't think you can program 'parts of' the FPGA, you have to program it as a whole in one go. No not necessarily. Hans Oranje told me this, and I saw it on one of Tsujikawa's designs: The FPGA gets its information directly from a FlashROM. Change something in the flashrom and the FPGA instantly changes too! And you know it's possibly to program part of a FlashROM. Greetz, Patriek -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: New msx to use bluetooth?
JP Grobler wrote: Just wondered how is the wireles coms goiing to work? Bluetooth? Nishi said it would be Bluetooth compatible, but not necessarily 100% the same. (Maybe extended??) Greetz, patriek -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: SD Snatcher
Hello, Does anyone know if there is ever produced a patch for SD Snatcher (disks) to run in via harddisk? Some people have patch the game into English... because there were some problems patching the game with a copy-protected patchdisk, some of the pathces went wrong! Shortly after that, a patchdisk without copy-protection was released... So: download a patched version without protection. After patching the game with this disk, you could simply put SD-Snatcher with PUTDISK on your harddisk (including SAVE-game disk!)... Getdisk you mean. So, step 2: make diskimages of that version. This may be a bit trouble some, since getdisk won't work when it cannot recognize the disk is MSX-DOS 2 format. However, you can use a trick for this: make a diskimage under MSX-DOS 1 with d2f (creating an XSA file). Then unpack it on your MSX harddisk. Another method is to use a pc of course. Step 3: don't forget to glue the diskimages together with CONCAT and don't forget the userdisk. Step 4: run MAP.COM and then use START.COM to run the diskimage. This should work fine on all MSX harddisk systems. It worked fine on my Novaxis SCSI system, at least. Hmm, maybe I should put this on the FAQ. If you guys want a FAQ part about NTSC/PAL stuff, send me the final list of QAs. Grtjs, Manuel PS: MSX 4 EVER! (Questions? The Ultimate MSX FAQ: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/) PPS: Visit my home page at http://bilderbeek.cjb.net/ -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Report of Nishi's lecture updated.
That's exactly the impression I got. Nishi stated at the beginning that the retired as vice-president of ASCII and didn't mention ASCII in his whole new-MSX story... I can assure you ASCII is involved. Nishi uses his connections to get things done. ASCII is used also for that. People won't take a guy serious if he isn't from a big company like ASCII. [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Did you notice that msx.net is not free, but www.msx.net is? I don't exactly understand what you mean. A domain name is always registered as domainname.extension. So msx.net and www.msx.net are the same. Besides that, a company in california (i beleive) ownes both msx.com and msx.net. They are not willing to sell either, otherwise msx.org would have bought them already :) Well, I just tried them. www.msx.net - Unable to locate the server. It doesn't have a DNS entry msx.net - Username/Password? Grtjs, Manuel PS: MSX 4 EVER! (Questions? The Ultimate MSX FAQ: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/) PPS: Visit my home page at http://bilderbeek.cjb.net/ -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: New msx to use bluetooth?
Bluetooth is nice but a bit slow. In theory it's much faster than in practice... I believe the network speed was comparable to an ISDN connection (8k/s). Also, the range of 10 meters is nice but a larger range would definately be appreciated. So there's much to say for a maybe compatible, but more extended type of wireless lan. ~Grauw - Original Message - From: Patriek Lesparre [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 2:13 PM Subject: Re: New msx to use bluetooth? JP Grobler wrote: Just wondered how is the wireles coms goiing to work? Bluetooth? Nishi said it would be Bluetooth compatible, but not necessarily 100% the same. (Maybe extended??) Greetz, patriek -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Transmeta and Amiga was (Re: crusoe)
Collin van Ginkel wrote: http://www.crusoe.com/ Isn't this largely the same thing as the PLD-type thingie Nishi mentioned? I mentioned this a few times in the Sunday meeting too, because it's comparable technology. BUT there are huge differences in that Transmeta's CPU isn't software reprogrammable AFAIK, and it's purely a CPU. But hardware emulation really is the way of the future. And that doesn't mean the emulated hardware has to really exist :) (3D-engine, sound processor, etc..) Another comparable piece of technology is the new Amiga as suggested by Amiga Inc. It also uses Intent, but is positioned differently in the market and does not have amiga500-4000 compatibility. The most important difference is that in the new Amiga the main CPU can be any of SH-4, MIPS, PowerPC, ARM, etc... While in the new MSX the ARM is standard. That means you can code in assembly, and the ARM used in the new MSX is VERY VERY VERY nice to program in Assembly. But Collin, you probably know that as you're involved in Gameboy Advance :) Another big difference is the new MSX has the reprogrammable hardware. All in all, the one-chip-MSX does not have really new technologies, but the combination of them is unique and IMO revolutionary. Greetz, Patriek -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
RE: Report of Nishi's lecture updated.
Well, I just tried them. www.msx.net - Unable to locate the server. It doesn't have a DNS entry msx.net - Username/Password? that is certainly not a way to determine if a domainname is registered. Try www.internic.com and enter www.msx.net in the domain lookup or go to xs4all.nl choose create account, there's a link overthere that will supply you with exact data about the domain (all contacts, registration dates, expiration dates, etc). But this is a useless discussion on this list. More interesting are the domains that are not yet registered as I mentioned before. greets Bart -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Transmeta and Amiga was (Re: crusoe)
Hi, I mentioned this a few times in the Sunday meeting too, because it's comparable technology. BUT there are huge differences in that Transmeta's CPU isn't software reprogrammable AFAIK, and it's purely a CPU. I thought the single most revolutionairy function of the Crusoe chip was that it can be reprogrammed to act as different architectures, like x86 etc. Not software-emulation but really change the way the chip functions. Greetz, Collin -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
RE: Report of Nishi's lecture updated.
|[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: | Did you notice that msx.net is not free, but www.msx.net is? |I don't exactly understand what you mean. A domain name is always |registered as domainname.extension. So msx.net and www.msx.net are the |same. Besides that, a company in california (i beleive) ownes both |msx.com and msx.net. They are not willing to sell either, otherwise |msx.org would have bought them already :) msx.com and msx.net registrations both expire 9th of juli this year, so if you are fast, you might be able to get them... Pepijn -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
RE: Report of Nishi's lecture updated.
|msx.com and msx.net registrations both expire 9th of juli this year, so if |you are |fast, you might be able to get them... and msx.tv is still available for only $1000 a year (again) Pepijn -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Realms of Adventure (fwd)
Good news on RoA! :-) Thanks for keeping it up afterall, Peter! I guess this is your permanent new e-mail address? Grtjs, Manuel PS: MSX 4 EVER! (Questions? The Ultimate MSX FAQ: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/) PPS: Visit my home page at http://bilderbeek.cjb.net/ -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 16:55:48 GMT From: Peter Meulendijks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: comp.sys.msx Subject: Re: Realms of Adventure Hi all. My apologies to all who are awaiting the new roa disks. It is true that I am still working on it, but unfortunately work is going rather slow and truth to tell had even stopped for a few months. I started up the work again only a short time ago and try to build up speed. Reasons for this all is that I have been very busy these last few months and some mayor things happened (I graduated, started a new job, bought a house, live together now, that sort of thing) but things are finally calming down now. April 21st I was moving in the new home so I coudn't come to Tilburg. Anyway, I hope to have a new part ready at the next fair (if it still exists, i must admit i don't know?) in september. thankx for the patience. Peter asrial [EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef in berichtnieuws 3addcbfe$0$32952$[EMAIL PROTECTED] PLEASE tell me there is a new disk of Realms of Adventure ! -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Pictures of Tilburg 2001 (today) added to site
Maarten ter Huurne wrote: I had that feeling too; the connection between MPEG and MSX is still unclear to me... They're not directly related as Mr. Nishi himselft admitted, but there's a small connection. I can't tell the truth about MPEG, Nishi, ASCII and such, but I can tell a short story about MSX in Brazil. In the early nineties, I couldn't believe it was possible to have one minute of music stored in just a few hundred kilobytes. It sounded completely outlandish to me. However, an acquaintance of me and some friends in Brazil did achieve that with MSX. I was very skeptical and had no idea of how he did it, but later on I started to understand. What could be the underlying ideas? It was as follows: 1) MSX doesn't have much memory. Therefore, we must use some kind of compression; 2) MSX doesn't have much clock power. Therefore, we must use some fair decompression scheme and optimize it for current MSX hardware speed. Obviously, those two ideas have something to do with MPEG audio. For example, with MPEG Layer-3 you can have 4 minutes per megabyte of 11KHz audio. One minute of sound fits easily in 256KBytes -- not too unusual in the MSX world. MPEG Layer-3 in that bitrate can be uncompressed in real time in a machine with a generic x86 processor with only 25MHz (or less), and Layer-2 and Layer-1 were much lighter. Of course, this acquaintace of ours didn't use MPEG, but some concepts were similar. Today, we have MUST and VIP by Ricardo Bittencourt and everyone with an MSX can see this could be done. Perhaps Nishi meant that he had some idea like this (not completely original, because there were already some people studying these issues back then) and tried to implement it broadly in some way, and later saw some similarities with this and MPEG... But of course I wouldn't put my hand on fire for this. =) []s, -Parn (ICQ#1693182) /| | | |\ \| ___ |/ http://parn.overclocked.org/ \/ - \/ Parn's Music Station | | Game Music XMs and more! -- --Izati Aba Mehinam Eto Kafe Nan -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Nishi goes MSX again
Thom Zwagers wrote: By the way, this whole new MSX idea looks like a bit of Indrema (Linux, encourage programming etc) Then, as long there's money, it would work, just like Indrema (which flopped due to lack of money... and perhaps an ugly design). =) I found it rather interesting about big Japanese corporations not being very aware to the market of legacy gaming -- and this market is getting more and more acceptance each day. []s, -Parn (ICQ#1693182) /| | | |\ \| ___ |/ http://parn.overclocked.org/ \/ - \/ Parn's Music Station | | Game Music XMs and more! -- --Izati Aba Mehinam Eto Kafe Nan -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
ICMIRI - still goiing?
HI Is ICMIRI still active. No email response from their website? Thanks JP GRobler -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
MSX means...???
was conceived (MSX means Machines (hardware) with Software eXchangeability). Oh no... come on again! What the hell REALLY means MSX??? X-D BTW, a new NestorWare is about to be released. Wait and see! ;-) *** XIX MSX USERS MEETING IN BARCELONA: APRIL 29th 2001 *** -- Konami Man - AKA Nestor Soriano (^^)v http://www.konamiman.com- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ#: 18281450 Celebrating the imprudences must be unfailingly consequent with it said, not for the fact in itself, but for some that another onomatopoeia to the use -- -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
No sheets on the internet?
In english, I just warned Bart for publishing the sheets on the internet. It could be that ASCII or Nishi is not that happy about publishing his sheets. They are copyrighted. Don't scare me now! So what happens with my text files version of MSX2 Technical Handbook?? 8-) *** XIX MSX USERS MEETING IN BARCELONA: APRIL 29th 2001 *** -- Konami Man - AKA Nestor Soriano (^^)v http://www.konamiman.com- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ#: 18281450 Celebrating the imprudences must be unfailingly consequent with it said, not for the fact in itself, but for some that another onomatopoeia to the use -- -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: No sheets on the internet?
In english, I just warned Bart for publishing the sheets on the internet. It could be that ASCII or Nishi is not that happy about publishing his sheets. They are copyrighted. Don't scare me now! So what happens with my text files version of MSX2 Technical Handbook?? 8-) That handbook is 'old stuff'. The sheets, however contained info on what Nishi is planning for the future - *that*'s relevant info for competitors... Eric -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
RE: No sheets on the internet?
If Nishi wanted to have the information kept quiet, he would have said so. Or marked the handouts as Confidential, Not for distribution, Nondisclosure, put a copyright notice on it or an official statement. As it is now (as you can see at the scans i made on www.geocities.com/msxhans) the sheets are very 'unofficial', only the first contains the text ASCII Corporation. Nishi was not at all in his public speech or answers occupied with keeping things secret. He even promised to make some sources Open source and make other info in the future better available to small developers. The 'take all MSX info that is not officialy permitted off the web' is Anne's interpretation. And that would make the revival/survival of MSX much more difficult. So do not remove it please! -Original Message- From: Nestor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 23 April 2001 15:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: No sheets on the internet? In english, I just warned Bart for publishing the sheets on the internet. It could be that ASCII or Nishi is not that happy about publishing his sheets. They are copyrighted. Don't scare me now! So what happens with my text files version of MSX2 Technical Handbook?? 8-) *** XIX MSX USERS MEETING IN BARCELONA: APRIL 29th 2001 *** -- Konami Man - AKA Nestor Soriano (^^)v http://www.konamiman.com- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ#: 18281450 Celebrating the imprudences must be unfailingly consequent with it said, not for the fact in itself, but for some that another onomatopoeia to the use -- -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Dreamcast video
Hi, The company who designed the Dreamcast video is called Imagination Technologies. So either Nishi got the name wrong, or he was misquoted. http://www.imgtec.com/ Bye, Maarten -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: SD Snatcher SCC
On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 09:55:57 +0200 Albert Beevendorp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 00:13 23-4-01 +0200, you wrote: Hi, If you trade your music module for an SCC you're 'nuts'.. Please do some investigation first of what you are trading.. SCCs are not that hard to get (I actually saw a nemesis 3 cartridge for sale in tilburg).. Just ask for an SCC in this mailinglist but don't trade it for your music module, you'll regret it for sure. Hmm... I think he wants to trade the Music Module for a SD-Snatcher Sound Cartridge. And that module contains a SCC+ with D-RAM. That's something different to a normal SCC. Yes, that's the one I'm looking for. Do you know anybody who wants to sell his or hers? GreeTz, BiFi Sign up for your FREE E-MAIL account @ Dynamitemail: http://www.dynamitemail.com -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Is MSX Player = fMSXintent?
So that sluggish thing running on some small computer was actually fMSX, not ASCII's original after all. Actually, I thought so, since I douted Goripon/Miyashita (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]), who is known as responsible developer for "ASCII-official emulator" had skill to develop a new MSX by his own. My guess was right. Beside, I would like to whisper here that Marat did not give proper permission to ASCII/Nishi/anyone else. Actually, one of the ASCII accountants misunderstood his word. Therefore, Nishi's word "we have license" is wrong (ask Marat if you are curious). I personally felt disdainful on the fact that ASCII, with thousands of employees and thousands of professional they can ask, decided to steal codes from Marat, a mundane ex-MSX user. This is nothing unlike personal hey-you-copied-mine riffraff. Note Goripon/Miyashita is not an ASCII employee. Takamichi -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: MSX means...???
was conceived (MSX means Machines (hardware) with Software eXchangeability). Oh no... come on again! What the hell REALLY means MSX??? X-D I do think this is the actual name. It was the basic idea behind the MSX philosophy back then. The MicroSoft eXtended applies only to the Basic and Dos, and the Matsushia Sony X-machine is some kind of 'joke' from people who were against microsoft. ~Grauw -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: MSX means...???
What the hell REALLY means MSX??? X-D I do think this is the actual name. It was the basic idea behind the MSX philosophy back then. The MicroSoft eXtended applies only to the Basic and Do s, and the Matsushia Sony X-machine is some kind of 'joke' from people who were against microsoft. Joke? From Nishi? He said this in Tokyo last AUgust... I think MSX doesn't really have a meaning. Nishi said he just needed a nice sounding 3 letter word, just like VHS, e.g. I adapted the text in the FAQ about this. Grtjs, Manuel PS: MSX 4 EVER! (Questions? The Ultimate MSX FAQ: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/) PPS: Visit my home page at http://bilderbeek.cjb.net/ -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Dreamcast video
- Original Message - From: Maarten ter Huurne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 1:28 PM Subject: Dreamcast video Hi, The company who designed the Dreamcast video is called Imagination Technologies. So either Nishi got the name wrong, or he was misquoted. http://www.imgtec.com/ Bye, Maarten No, He didn´t. Dreamcast video is a POWER-VR 2 engine developed by Power-VR technologies, which is a subdivision of Imagination Technologies inc and mass manufacturated my NEC. From their website you can jump to www.powervr.com and read about the recent news regarding Dreamcast set top boxes and next generation SEGA's naomi 2 hardware ... Dreamcast also employ Yamaha´s technology on the Giga Disc drive and sound hardware. Cya MSXers ... -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
RE: MSX means...???
I think MSX doesn't really have a meaning. Nishi said he just needed a nice sounding 3 letter word, just like VHS, e.g. Uhm? Nishi didn't say that. He said MSX should be like VHS, a standard which can be adopted by many companies. The letters were not chosen just because it sounds nice. greets Bart. -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: MSX means...???
Note: the recording of Nishi's speech can now be downloaded from www.msx.org ...read on... What the hell REALLY means MSX??? X-D I do think this is the actual name. It was the basic idea behind the MSX philosophy back then. The MicroSoft eXtended applies only to the Basic and Dos, and the Matsushia Sony X-machine is some kind of 'joke' from people who were against microsoft. Joke? From Nishi? He said this in Tokyo last August... In his speech last saturday he made several (slightly) anti-microsoft jokes, so this could very well have been one of them. He did say the Matsushia Sony X-machine was merely a name in response to Microsoft's version of MSX. (at 9:36 Nishi said) people ask always what does MSX stand for? some people say MicroSoft eXchangable or Matsushia Sony X-machine. Actually it meant Machine with Software eXchangability, that was our original handle. But Gates said 'MSX is **Microsoft** (mysterious voice)' but then sales were going down and gates stopped saying it's microsoft, instead 'no it's Sony Matsushia' I think MSX doesn't really have a meaning. Nishi said he just needed a nice sounding 3 letter word, just like VHS, e.g. Uhm? Nishi didn't say that. He said MSX should be like VHS, a standard which can be adopted by many companies. The letters were not chosen just because it sounds nice. Perhaps... anyways I do think this is the best name. It reflects what Nishi said about IBM has IBM computer, running IBM software. (at 5:54 Nishi said) Every hardware company having different software. We thought that was crazy. We felt that like videotape, different companies make VHS, one VHS logo, which can play everywhere. The name MSX comes from VHS. VHS having three letters, Video Home System or eh... Vista Hollywood System or whatever (joke). So we said like eh, three letters is good for compatible computer. So we decided that. So they were also chose because it sounds nice. I adapted the text in the FAQ about this. Grtjs, Manuel PS: MSX 4 EVER! (Questions? The Ultimate MSX FAQ: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/) PPS: Visit my home page at http://bilderbeek.cjb.net/ -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: MSX means...???
In his speech last saturday he made several (slightly) anti-microsoft jokes, so this could very well have been one of them. He did say the Matsushia Sony X-machine was merely a name in response to Microsoft's version of MSX. I wrote this before I listened to the recording, and I forgot to delete it. Gates didn't like to connect his name to a machine with decreasing success ans popularity. (at 9:36 Nishi said) people ask always what does MSX stand for? some people say MicroSoft eXchangable or Matsushia Sony X-machine. Actually it meant Machine with Software eXchangability, that was our original handle. But Gates said 'MSX is **Microsoft** (mysterious voice)' but then sales were going down and gates stopped saying it's microsoft, instead 'no it's Sony Matsushia' ~Grauw -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Missing the internet boom
Hello, I saw your post on a newsgroup Thousands of people are using the Internet to create wealth. Are you? According to Newsweek, In the Internet age, the only risk is being left behind. http://GLN-International.net?shop2discover Would you like to earn extra income 24 hours a day, 7 days a week? It's not too late for to own your own Internet business, working part-time from home. In fact, your timing is perfect! Every 1.67 seconds, a first-time Internet user goes online - 1.58 million new users per month. In two years, you can look back and wish you had gotten started when you had the chance - or be glad you did. The choice is yours. http://GLN-International.net?shop2discover You could very well be a millionaire in 2 years Good luck. - I saw your post on a newsgroup. This is not spam, you are not on a list. -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Transmeta and Amiga was (Re: crusoe)
Collin van Ginkel wrote: I thought the single most revolutionairy function of the Crusoe chip was that it can be reprogrammed to act as different architectures, like x86 etc. Exactly. But it can only mimic other CPU's, not different kinds of hardware. Also it can't be software reprogrammable, it is done in factory. Not software-emulation but really change the way the chip functions. Crusoe is a VLIW processor (Very Large Instruction Word), like Intel's Itanium design. It's a relatively new area of CPU design. You can't actually reprogram the way the Crusoe functions. The VLIW core remains unchanged, with on top of that a software emulation layer (implemented in hardware). The line between software and hardware IS fading and I think that's why Nishi called the new MSX multi-multiplatform. :) Greetz, Patriek -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Going rate for svi328
Hi What would be areasonable price for a svi329 with svi 904 tape and grafic tablet? Thanks JP Grobler -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
RE: Going rate for svi328
Not much I suspect. The SVI-328 is a pre-MSX machine, 90 equal to a MSX-1 (but differs enough to get you in trouble when you think it is a MSX. The CUC once made a MSX emulator for the SVI328. As collectors item maybe interesting. -Original Message- From: JP Grobler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 23 April 2001 21:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Going rate for svi328 Hi What would be areasonable price for a svi329 with svi 904 tape and grafic tablet? Thanks JP Grobler -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Going rate for svi328
The SVI-328 or SV-328 is a quite common computer, also the tape recorder was bundled with most of the computers. A fair price would be about US $50-100. If the computer is a SVI-328 MK II the price would be about US $150-250. The graphic tablet SV-105 is a bit more rare, not that useful though, $50. There a lot of other goodies: SVI-605 Super Expander SVI-603 Coleco game adapter SVI-606 MSX game adapter HCM: The Home Computer Museum http://www.homecomputer.de/pages/f_spectravideo.html The Unofficial Spectravideo Homepage ;-) http://www.abysscrew.nu/spectravideo/ JP Grobler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi What would be areasonable price for a svi329 with svi 904 tape and grafic tablet? Thanks JP Grobler -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
MPR Web updated
MSX Power Replay web is just updated... MSX Power Replay [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://replay.msx.org ICQ: 34051098 -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Going rate for svi328
The SVI-328 or SV-328 is a quite common computer, also the tape recorder was Well, it was...in a galaxy1000 years ago... I doubt if you find many of these around (at least in Denmark). I used to have one ;-), my first computer... bundled with most of the computers. A fair price would be about US $50-100. If the computer is a SVI-328 MK II the price would be about US $150-250. You must be NUTS!! I think you really are! This stuff is not worth a shit today unless you are crazy enough to get the system on ebay...from some idiot who thinks he can rip people off What? Are you selling a NEOGEO console or what? No, a bsolete computer If someone wanted to buy such stuff for 250 bucks I guess something is wrong with that person. You can get it for peanuts in Holland!!! But if you sell it for such price, good luck!!! The graphic tablet SV-105 is a bit more rare, not that useful though, $50. 50 bucks for SVI tablet, argh...I´m speechless Sorry, couldn´t resist to reply.. Greetz from Bjørn Boye Skjoldhammer aka The Red Devil http://www.trd.msxnet.org ICQ #20449307 MS Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: New msx to use bluetooth?
] Hi ] ] Just wondered how is the wireles coms goiing to work? Bluetooth? No. Another standard. Called something like Brutus if memory serves me well. Bluetooth is not possible, due to too high license costs. It is not possible to keep the retail price of the machine below 100$ if Bluetooth is used. Kind regards, Alex Wulms -- Visit The MSX Plaza (http://www.inter.nl.net/users/A.P.Wulms) for info on XelaSoft, Merlasoft, Quadrivium, SD-Snatcher on fMSX, the MSX Hardware list, XSA Disk images, documentation, Japanese MSX news from Ikeda and lots more. -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Nishi goes MSX again
] Hi ] ] I like the ideas of Nishi's lecture. Wire-less LAN in a home computer... hummm, ] very interesting. ] I hope that if this new machine is ever released its name include the word ] MSX. ] If it´s not named MSX, can we consider that is a MSX? ] ] On the other hand, is Tsujikawa in The Netherlands? Tomorrow (tuesday), he will be in Belgium to explain me how to program the fpga. I have offered to port the VDP command engine for the ESE-PLD system. Kind regards, Alex Wulms -- Visit The MSX Plaza (http://www.inter.nl.net/users/A.P.Wulms) for info on XelaSoft, Merlasoft, Quadrivium, SD-Snatcher on fMSX, the MSX Hardware list, XSA Disk images, documentation, Japanese MSX news from Ikeda and lots more. -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: one-chip MSX (was Re: Pictures of Tilburg 2001 (today) added to site)
] Nasu (Yokoi) told about Sharp and their Zaurus PDA. They developed 2 games ] for it, 1st was Space Invaders and 2nd Pacman. The games sold for $20 and ] they were sold out within 3 days (do I remember this correctly, please ] someone who was present Sunday correct me on this). They had recuperated the development costs after three days. But they did not mention how many games where sold in total. Nor the development costs necesary to port these two games to the PDA. But indeed, there is certainly a market for small games. Kind regards, Alex Wulms -- Visit The MSX Plaza (http://www.inter.nl.net/users/A.P.Wulms) for info on XelaSoft, Merlasoft, Quadrivium, SD-Snatcher on fMSX, the MSX Hardware list, XSA Disk images, documentation, Japanese MSX news from Ikeda and lots more. -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: MSX Revival Project - One Chip MSX
Hi, ] I think it's strange the computer runs on Linux. First, as far as I know Linux ] is a Unix-clone for IBM-compatibles. The one-chip-msx is not an IBM-compatible. Linux started-off as a 386 Unix clone. But soon it also got ported to other architectures. These days it runs on every major 32-bit (and higher) processor. Furthermore, another big advantage of Linux is that you do not have to pay ANY license costs to a software house. Which is an important factor if the machine must be on the market for less then 100$. Any other OS with the power and maturity of Linux costs more then the entire new 'MSX' box. ] ] It's based on fMSX so according to the GNU public licence (or whatever it's ] called) it _must_ be open source. Hence adaptations can easily be made. One: fMSX is not based on GNU public license. It is entirely copyright by Marat and may only be used for commercial purposes with Marat's explicit permission Two: Even if the emulator would be GNU licensed, that still would not imply that the software that you run on it (like games) must be GNU licensed. There are for examply many applications available for Linux that are non-free, non-GNU and actually cost a lot of money. Kind regards, Alex Wulms -- Visit The MSX Plaza (http://www.inter.nl.net/users/A.P.Wulms) for info on XelaSoft, Merlasoft, Quadrivium, SD-Snatcher on fMSX, the MSX Hardware list, XSA Disk images, documentation, Japanese MSX news from Ikeda and lots more. -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: New msx to use bluetooth?
Alex Wulms wrote: No. Another standard. Called something like Brutus if memory serves me well. Bluetooth is not possible, due to too high license costs. It is not possible to keep the retail price of the machine below 100$ if Bluetooth is used. Hey, this is funny... 'Brutus' sounds almost the same as 'Bluetooth' when spoken by a Japanese! =) I would even dare to say it sounds just the same; but I agree with you, Bluetooth in an under-100$ machine doesn't seem possible. []s, -Parn (ICQ#1693182) /| | | |\ \| ___ |/ http://parn.overclocked.org/ \/ - \/ Parn's Music Station | | Game Music XMs and more! -- --Izati Aba Mehinam Eto Kafe Nan -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: New msx to use bluetooth?
Alex Wulms wrote: ] Just wondered how is the wireles coms goiing to work? Bluetooth? No. Another standard. Called something like Brutus if memory serves me well. Bluetooth is not possible, due to too high license costs. It is not possible to keep the retail price of the machine below 100$ if Bluetooth is used. When you listened to Bernard's pronunciation of the word it did sound like Brutus, but I can assure you the Japanese said Bluetooth. The two words are exactly the same in japanese and I guess Bernard is unaware of Bluetooth and translated it 'wrong'. (not really wrong, but different from what was intended) These kind of translation errors are very common. There have been many in the past, but unfortunately I can't seem to remember one right now ^^; Greetz, Patriek -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Going rate for svi328
The SVI-328 or SV-328 is a quite common computer, also the tape recorder was I doubt if you find many of these around (at least in Denmark). Not in Sweden either, it should have been was a bundled with most of the computers. A fair price would be about US $50-100. If the computer is a SVI-328 MK II the price would be about US $150-250. You must be NUTS!! I think you really are Perhaps I am;-) It's not that much, just a parking ticket or two;-) The SVI-328 MK II is really ultra rare, it wasn't even sold in most of countries because of the SVI-728. This stuff is not worth a shit today unless you are crazy enough to get the system on ebay... That's almost the only source to get them from today, but if you'r lucky you can find them for free. Of course if they aren't worth anything to you, don't buy one;) Stick with your P4, Geforce 3 and the lovely SVI-738. But if you sell it for such price, good luck!!! I don't sell any of the Spectravideo items I'v collected, they are to rare for me. Cheers, Tomas -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: MSX Revival Project - One Chip MSX
Very true; there was even a Linux port for the SH-4 processor, intended for Dreamcast. One website actually has as its server a Dreamcast running Linux! Original Message Follows Linux started-off as a 386 Unix clone. But soon it also got ported to other architectures. These days it runs on every major 32-bit (and higher) processor. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Going rate for svi328
Bjørn Boye Skjoldhammer wrote: The SVI-328 or SV-328 is a quite common computer, also the tape recorder was Well, it was...in a galaxy1000 years ago... I doubt if you find many of these around (at least in Denmark). I used to have one ;-), my first computer... bundled with most of the computers. A fair price would be about US $50-100. If the computer is a SVI-328 MK II the price would be about US $150-250. You must be NUTS!! I think you really are! This stuff is not worth a shit today unless you are crazy enough to get the system on ebay...from some idiot who thinks he can rip people off Probably are easy to get in Denmark but not here in Spain. Pioneer Palcom PX-7 is easy to get in Australia. Can you buy it at a cheap price in Denmark? Here Sony HB-F9 and HB-F700 are common MSX2s. Could you find it in the U.K.? Each country has its own MSXs ;-) What? Are you selling a NEOGEO console or what? No, a bsolete computer If someone wanted to buy such stuff for 250 bucks I guess something is wrong with that person. You can get it for peanuts in Holland!!! But if you sell it for such price, good luck!!! The graphic tablet SV-105 is a bit more rare, not that useful though, $50. 50 bucks for SVI tablet, argh...I´m speechless Sorry, couldn´t resist to reply.. Look this and tell me what do you think: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1231252330 Greetings -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
more msx.??? domains that are still available
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