Re: [MSX] RGB monitor
Grauw wrote: Note by the way that -afaik- the Japanese RGB connector is different from a European RGB connector, the pins are different. If you mean SCART, I believe the connectors are physically different too. I'm not too sure about it, but I think the japanese is rectangular while the euro isn't. The Philips CM 8802 is also good, but its resolution isn't very high so in screen 0 and 7 it's less sharp. But still looking good, imho. I use the 8802 myself :). I used a CM8802 in the old days, after seeing a CM8833 you NEVER want to go back again. But you can use CM8802 if you prefer a 'm' being a vague spot. These are two white Philips monitors, there are also some black counterparts if I'm not mistaking, but I don't know their type numbers, and have no experience with them. CM8833 == VS0080 CM8802 == VS0060 (Or VS0060 is a green monitor, I'm not 100% sure) Greetz, Patriek ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] Some stuff I have to get rid of...
I am clearing out some stuff, and before I throw it away I thought it might be a good idea to see if someone else would want to have some of it. DUDE! NEVER, I repeat, *NEVER* throw MSX stuff away! ^^; ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] Some stuff I have to get rid of...
Take it to the MSX 2004 Fair, Pedro ~gun~ - Original Message - From: Laurens Holst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MSX Mailinglist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 12:42 PM Subject: [MSX] Some stuff I have to get rid of... I am clearing out some stuff, and before I throw it away I thought it might be a good idea to see if someone else would want to have some of it. They are mainly books, and some old software. If you are interested, drop me a note. Also, if you know someone who might be interested, please pass this list on. Maybe there are some people on club meetings interested. I will keep the items for perhaps a couple of weeks, perhaps a couple of months (until our garage is cleared out), so don't wait too long responding. These are the items: Category: misc - a fair number of C.U.C. Journaal magazines - Electronicaprojecten voor MSX-computers by W.H.M. van Dreumel Category: software/hardware manuals - Handleiding dBASE II MS-DOS versie by Pim Oets - PC-zakboekje dBASE III plus, by Microsoft Press - Handleiding dBase II 'quick and easy dBase II' by Joseph Reymann - DiskIt 'de diskette toolkit' box + manual (no disk though :)) - Computer mates cartridge + box + Philips MSX Home Office manual (in the same box) - Handleiding MT-Telcom MSX Modem - Star LC-10II (multi-font) printer users manual Category: German - Sony HiBrid Anleitung 'Deutsche Gebrauchsanweisung' (without disk) - MSX-BASIC Version 2.0 benutzerhandbuch Category: Basic listing books - MSX Programma's voor dagelijks gebruik by Ron Belmonte - Ideas for MSX by Ken Zetie (published Kuma MSX :)) - Hèt MSX computer-spelen boek by Tim Hartnell - Miraculeuze spelen voor uw MSX Computer by Hal Renko Sam Edwards - Praktijksoftware voor MSX computers 'met diskdrive' by Robert-Jan Donkers - MSX truuks en tips deel 5 by M. Buysse - MSX truuks en tips deel 7 by M. Buysse - MSX Programma-verzameling by Lüers - MSX2 Toepassingshandboek by A.C.J. Groeneveld Category: programming language books - De MSX Gebruikersgids by Wichert van Engelen - BASIC in 30 uur by C. Prigmore - Werken met bestanden in MSX BASIC by LeRoy Finkel Jerald R. Brown - PASCAL voor BASIC-programmeurs by Mark J. Borgerson - Het MSX instructieboek by Robert Young - Het floppyboek voor de MSX-computers by Schröder - Zakboekje MSX 'MSX2, basic, disk-basic, dos' by A. van Utteren - Tips en trucs voor de MSX-computers by Dullin/Strassenburg - MSX verder uitgediept by H. Klopper - Handboek MSX by T. Sato, P. Mapstone I. Muriel Category: software (disk) - Microbase v2.1 'De database voor uw MSX' disk + box + manual - CCS Ledenadministratie MSX-2 (Philips VG-8598), disk + box + manual - CCS MSX-2 boekhouding disk + box + manual - HitBit T/Maker IV (office suite) disks + box + manual Category: software (cassette) - Philips MSX : De Demo - Grog's Revenge / Bounder / The Games Collection 6 - Pac-Man (by Bug-Byte) - Kuma Forth (programming language) - Kuma Logo (programming language) I think the nicest thing among them is the HitBit T/Maker program, it looks quite extensive and professional, judging by the (fat) manual. And there might also be someone who will find the electronics projects interesting, although it is at a fairly basic level. Also the Forth cassette is very interesting, if there isn't a dump or disk version of it yet, maybe someone can make it? The same goes for Kuma Logo, I also have Philips Logo on cartridge, but this cassette might be quite interesting aswell. Actually, if no-one is interested, I might keep those cassettes. The rest of it, well... most of them are nice books, I guess. If you work with Basic a lot on a hobby-level, you will probably enjoy them. ~Grauw Laurens Holst Tel.: 035-6989386 Email: lholst AT students.cs.uu.nl --- Ushiko-san! Kimi wa doushite, Ushiko-san nan da!! ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] RGB monitor
Patriek Lesparre wrote: Grauw wrote: Note by the way that -afaik- the Japanese RGB connector is different from a European RGB connector, the pins are different. If you mean SCART, I believe the connectors are physically different too. I'm not too sure about it, but I think the japanese is rectangular while the euro isn't. No, I think the RGB connectors are different aswell. I don't think the RGB-(european)SCART cable of my Japanese Sanyo Wavy MSX2+ will work on my NMS 8245. Ofcourse I could just check it :)... The Philips CM 8802 is also good, but its resolution isn't very high so in screen 0 and 7 it's less sharp. But still looking good, imho. I use the 8802 myself :). I used a CM8802 in the old days, after seeing a CM8833 you NEVER want to go back again. But you can use CM8802 if you prefer a 'm' being a vague spot. Well... yeah, I like that! It's not really smudgy or vague, or blurred, it's more like... well... unsharp... The diagonal lines of the M look a bit as if they are somewhat heavily antialiased ^_^. And the colors got those tiny vertical lines through it, those are great. It's like watching a Picasso, I think! Hehehe... Anyways, sure I know how a CM8833 looks, and in the past we used to have an... what was it again... Arcona (?) monitor which was also much better resolution-wise. When I got my CM8802 the 'vague spot'-ness of the M was about the first thing I noticed :). But I'm used to it now, and I don't dislike it. ~Grauw --- Ushiko-san! Kimi wa doushite, Ushiko-san nan da!! ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] RGB monitor
On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Patriek Lesparre wrote: Grauw wrote: Note by the way that -afaik- the Japanese RGB connector is different from a European RGB connector, the pins are different. If you mean SCART, I believe the connectors are physically different too. I'm not too sure about it, but I think the japanese is rectangular while the euro isn't. Ahem, Euro connector (which is widely known as SCART) is physically similar with it's Japanese equivalent. Only pinout is different, there is pinouts for both in internet. If you buy original Panasonic A1-series computer from Japan you may (at least with A1ST, A1GT and A1WSX had these) get original cable for connecting MSX to tv/monitor. Other end is with round plug to MSX and other has SCART connector. It's high quality (at least mine is) cable and connector, you can easily open it and remake the wiring. I used a CM8802 in the old days, after seeing a CM8833 you NEVER want to go back again. But you can use CM8802 if you prefer a 'm' being a vague spot. And there are still better option than CM8833. There exist earlier Philips type CM 8533 which was the top-of-the-line model at it's era (when green-black monitors were still widely sold and just before prices of real colour monitors dropped enough). It was also very expensive monitor which makes it very rare nowadays as well. It has almost identical pcb with 8833 though. Tube seems to be different type and it's so far best of the monitors I have seen in 8833 size (including different commodore and other maker models) old monitors. There is btw CM8833 II which does have 9-pin D-connector for RGB and separate RCA connectors for sound. IIRC it has worse picture quality than 8833. It has also updated covers and looks different than other 88.. -series (and commodore monitors based to 88..-series). Greetings: Saku Taipale, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] Some stuff I have to get rid of...
Humm, good idea I guess. How soon is that one again (oh man, 2004...). Anyways I'll see what I can do. It's a heavy case to take with me, but ah, I have brought entire MSX-es with me in the past ^_^. And what's left after the fair, I can throw away. Should've done this earlier, and bring it to the Bussum fair... ^_^ ~Grauw Pedro Giebels wrote: Take it to the MSX 2004 Fair, Pedro ~gun~ - Original Message - From: Laurens Holst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MSX Mailinglist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 12:42 PM Subject: [MSX] Some stuff I have to get rid of... I am clearing out some stuff, and before I throw it away I thought it might be a good idea to see if someone else would want to have some of it. They are mainly books, and some old software. If you are interested, drop me a note. Also, if you know someone who might be interested, please pass this list on. Maybe there are some people on club meetings interested. I will keep the items for perhaps a couple of weeks, perhaps a couple of months (until our garage is cleared out), so don't wait too long responding. These are the items: Category: misc - a fair number of C.U.C. Journaal magazines - Electronicaprojecten voor MSX-computers by W.H.M. van Dreumel Category: software/hardware manuals - Handleiding dBASE II MS-DOS versie by Pim Oets - PC-zakboekje dBASE III plus, by Microsoft Press - Handleiding dBase II 'quick and easy dBase II' by Joseph Reymann - DiskIt 'de diskette toolkit' box + manual (no disk though :)) - Computer mates cartridge + box + Philips MSX Home Office manual (in the same box) - Handleiding MT-Telcom MSX Modem - Star LC-10II (multi-font) printer users manual Category: German - Sony HiBrid Anleitung 'Deutsche Gebrauchsanweisung' (without disk) - MSX-BASIC Version 2.0 benutzerhandbuch Category: Basic listing books - MSX Programma's voor dagelijks gebruik by Ron Belmonte - Ideas for MSX by Ken Zetie (published Kuma MSX :)) - Hèt MSX computer-spelen boek by Tim Hartnell - Miraculeuze spelen voor uw MSX Computer by Hal Renko Sam Edwards - Praktijksoftware voor MSX computers 'met diskdrive' by Robert-Jan Donkers - MSX truuks en tips deel 5 by M. Buysse - MSX truuks en tips deel 7 by M. Buysse - MSX Programma-verzameling by Lüers - MSX2 Toepassingshandboek by A.C.J. Groeneveld Category: programming language books - De MSX Gebruikersgids by Wichert van Engelen - BASIC in 30 uur by C. Prigmore - Werken met bestanden in MSX BASIC by LeRoy Finkel Jerald R. Brown - PASCAL voor BASIC-programmeurs by Mark J. Borgerson - Het MSX instructieboek by Robert Young - Het floppyboek voor de MSX-computers by Schröder - Zakboekje MSX 'MSX2, basic, disk-basic, dos' by A. van Utteren - Tips en trucs voor de MSX-computers by Dullin/Strassenburg - MSX verder uitgediept by H. Klopper - Handboek MSX by T. Sato, P. Mapstone I. Muriel Category: software (disk) - Microbase v2.1 'De database voor uw MSX' disk + box + manual - CCS Ledenadministratie MSX-2 (Philips VG-8598), disk + box + manual - CCS MSX-2 boekhouding disk + box + manual - HitBit T/Maker IV (office suite) disks + box + manual Category: software (cassette) - Philips MSX : De Demo - Grog's Revenge / Bounder / The Games Collection 6 - Pac-Man (by Bug-Byte) - Kuma Forth (programming language) - Kuma Logo (programming language) I think the nicest thing among them is the HitBit T/Maker program, it looks quite extensive and professional, judging by the (fat) manual. And there might also be someone who will find the electronics projects interesting, although it is at a fairly basic level. Also the Forth cassette is very interesting, if there isn't a dump or disk version of it yet, maybe someone can make it? The same goes for Kuma Logo, I also have Philips Logo on cartridge, but this cassette might be quite interesting aswell. Actually, if no-one is interested, I might keep those cassettes. The rest of it, well... most of them are nice books, I guess. If you work with Basic a lot on a hobby-level, you will probably enjoy them. ~Grauw Laurens Holst Tel.: 035-6989386 Email: lholst AT students.cs.uu.nl --- Ushiko-san! Kimi wa doushite, Ushiko-san nan da!! ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx --- Ushiko-san! Kimi wa doushite, Ushiko-san nan da!! ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
