Re: [MSX] RGB monitor
Grauw wrote: Note by the way that -afaik- the Japanese RGB connector is different from a European RGB connector, the pins are different. If you mean SCART, I believe the connectors are physically different too. I'm not too sure about it, but I think the japanese is rectangular while the euro isn't. The Philips CM 8802 is also good, but its resolution isn't very high so in screen 0 and 7 it's less sharp. But still looking good, imho. I use the 8802 myself :). I used a CM8802 in the old days, after seeing a CM8833 you NEVER want to go back again. But you can use CM8802 if you prefer a 'm' being a vague spot. These are two white Philips monitors, there are also some black counterparts if I'm not mistaking, but I don't know their type numbers, and have no experience with them. CM8833 == VS0080 CM8802 == VS0060 (Or VS0060 is a green monitor, I'm not 100% sure) Greetz, Patriek ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] RGB monitor
Patriek Lesparre wrote: Grauw wrote: Note by the way that -afaik- the Japanese RGB connector is different from a European RGB connector, the pins are different. If you mean SCART, I believe the connectors are physically different too. I'm not too sure about it, but I think the japanese is rectangular while the euro isn't. No, I think the RGB connectors are different aswell. I don't think the RGB-(european)SCART cable of my Japanese Sanyo Wavy MSX2+ will work on my NMS 8245. Ofcourse I could just check it :)... The Philips CM 8802 is also good, but its resolution isn't very high so in screen 0 and 7 it's less sharp. But still looking good, imho. I use the 8802 myself :). I used a CM8802 in the old days, after seeing a CM8833 you NEVER want to go back again. But you can use CM8802 if you prefer a 'm' being a vague spot. Well... yeah, I like that! It's not really smudgy or vague, or blurred, it's more like... well... unsharp... The diagonal lines of the M look a bit as if they are somewhat heavily antialiased ^_^. And the colors got those tiny vertical lines through it, those are great. It's like watching a Picasso, I think! Hehehe... Anyways, sure I know how a CM8833 looks, and in the past we used to have an... what was it again... Arcona (?) monitor which was also much better resolution-wise. When I got my CM8802 the 'vague spot'-ness of the M was about the first thing I noticed :). But I'm used to it now, and I don't dislike it. ~Grauw --- Ushiko-san! Kimi wa doushite, Ushiko-san nan da!! ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] RGB monitor
On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Patriek Lesparre wrote: Grauw wrote: Note by the way that -afaik- the Japanese RGB connector is different from a European RGB connector, the pins are different. If you mean SCART, I believe the connectors are physically different too. I'm not too sure about it, but I think the japanese is rectangular while the euro isn't. Ahem, Euro connector (which is widely known as SCART) is physically similar with it's Japanese equivalent. Only pinout is different, there is pinouts for both in internet. If you buy original Panasonic A1-series computer from Japan you may (at least with A1ST, A1GT and A1WSX had these) get original cable for connecting MSX to tv/monitor. Other end is with round plug to MSX and other has SCART connector. It's high quality (at least mine is) cable and connector, you can easily open it and remake the wiring. I used a CM8802 in the old days, after seeing a CM8833 you NEVER want to go back again. But you can use CM8802 if you prefer a 'm' being a vague spot. And there are still better option than CM8833. There exist earlier Philips type CM 8533 which was the top-of-the-line model at it's era (when green-black monitors were still widely sold and just before prices of real colour monitors dropped enough). It was also very expensive monitor which makes it very rare nowadays as well. It has almost identical pcb with 8833 though. Tube seems to be different type and it's so far best of the monitors I have seen in 8833 size (including different commodore and other maker models) old monitors. There is btw CM8833 II which does have 9-pin D-connector for RGB and separate RCA connectors for sound. IIRC it has worse picture quality than 8833. It has also updated covers and looks different than other 88.. -series (and commodore monitors based to 88..-series). Greetings: Saku Taipale, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] RGB monitor
Diederick de Vries wrote: Hi, I need an colour RGB monitor (with a real 8-pole RGB connector and preferably a conection cable) in the Netherlands. Does anyone have one for me, and what would I have to pay for it? Diederick de Vries The R, G and B signals are also inside a regular SCART connector, so with a proper conversion cable (RGB to SCART, heh :)) is you can just use any monitor with SCART aswell, and it will still use the RGB signal for good quality image. Might be easier to find than a monitor with an RGB connector for input. Note by the way that -afaik- the Japanese RGB connector is different from a European RGB connector, the pins are different. The Philips CM 8833 monitor is a good one (*with* seperate RGB input, btw), the image is very sharp. The Philips CM 8802 is also good, but its resolution isn't very high so in screen 0 and 7 it's less sharp. But still looking good, imho. I use the 8802 myself :). These are two white Philips monitors, there are also some black counterparts if I'm not mistaking, but I don't know their type numbers, and have no experience with them. However they might be the same internally. ~Grauw --- Ushiko-san! Kimi wa doushite, Ushiko-san nan da!! ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
[MSX] RGB monitor
Hi, I need an colour RGB monitor (with a real 8-pole RGB connector and preferably a conection cable) in the Netherlands. Does anyone have one for me, and what would I have to pay for it? Diederick de Vries -- Oude Ebbingestraat 61-2b 9712 HD Groningen the Netherlands http://www.diederickdevries.net ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
