Re: [MSX] compactflash ata-ide
Mari vd Broek wrote: Don't forget that a CF-card has limited writes... after a time you will get "hot-spots"... So If you use it, try to limit the times you write to the CF-card as much as possible Each block of Flash can be written millions of times, it will last YEARS even if you use it as your main harddrive. Nevertheless, there are CF cards available that have a virtualization chip that randomizes writes across the entire CF card in order to minimize the effect. Fortunately CF will never lose its data or become inaccessible, so even if you can't write to it anymore, you can just copy the data to a fresh CF card. Greetz, Patriek ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] compactflash ata-ide
> But to use it as a replacement for harddisk is ideal: Even on a pc: what > about a Linux router with no moving parts other than the Fan for the > Powersupply? Don't forget that a CF-card has limited writes... after a time you will get "hot-spots"... So If you use it, try to limit the times you write to the CF-card as much as possible --[ MARI ]-- ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] compactflash ata-ide
Laurens Holst wrote: Manuel Bilderbeek wrote: > The reader itself > can only be used on MSX, by the way. The CF card can be used on PC > too, of course. You sure about that last thing? Meaning, you tried? Because afaik it should just work. Well, anyways, PC cardreaders are very cheap nowadays and using Sunrise's adapter is probably too much trouble, as the IDE connectors are inside the PC case. Quibus probably means the CF Interface. 'Reader' is very confusing here, as there are two products: Adapter and Interface. About that last thing, there are PC's with external IDE connectors :) Greetz, Patriek ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] compactflash ata-ide
Manuel Bilderbeek wrote: > Hans-Peter Zeedijk wrote: >> Has anyone experience with the MSX compact flash ata-ide cardreaders? >> 1. Can it be used as a harddisk? (Boot) >> 2. Data on it can also be accessed (read/write) on other cardreaders >> for PC? (DATA exchange) >> 3. Does it plug in direct to IDE connector on the controller or (PC) >> mainboard? Or onto IDE cable? >> 4. Is it build and delivered nice? (ie is it a plain PCB or in a >> casing?) >> 5. How does it performes compared with other IDE devices? (HD, >> CD-ROM, on both MSX and PC) >> 6. Were can it be found/ordered/ >> 7. What are the prices? > > To be short: it's a very good product and every question you asked > above should be answered with a positive answer. The reader itself > can only be used on MSX, by the way. The CF card can be used on PC > too, of course. You sure about that last thing? Meaning, you tried? Because afaik it should just work. Well, anyways, PC cardreaders are very cheap nowadays and using Sunrise's adapter is probably too much trouble, as the IDE connectors are inside the PC case. About the performance, on my 7MHz MSX2 it is slightly better than a regular harddisk, the harddisk reached 230kb/s and from CompactFlash it read at a nice rate of 260kb/s. And I would recommend buying the CF-IDE interface, with that you don't need an external power supply and no cables, and it's more compact. Oh, and two important questions you forgot: A: Is it silent? Q: Yes! A: Is the data still on it if I drop it? Q: Yes! ^_^ ~Grauw --- Ushiko-san! Kimi wa doushite, Ushiko-san nan da!! ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] compactflash ata-ide
1. yes... 2. yes, but after using it on MSX (making partitions on it!) the cards are no longer usable in some camera's (you have to format them to get them to work... format on W2K, XP or NT will not help, only Win98 -- had this problem myself!) 3. Onto the cable... 4. Both versions are "boxed" 5. Depends on the CF-cards you use... look around and you will find out there are "faster" CF-cards on the market (up to 4 Mbit/sec.)... but they cost a bit more! 6. Sunrise 7. This you can find on the Sunrise site! ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] compactflash ata-ide
what about a Linux router with no moving parts other than the Fan for the Powersupply? What about a fanless powersupply? ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] compactflash ata-ide
At 20:32 26-10-2003 +0100, you wrote: Grauw wote: And I would recommend buying the CF-IDE interface, with that you don't need an external power supply and no cables, and it's more compact. I looked on Sunrise, but there is a powercable on the CF IDE card! So it still needs power! Read replies! Look better! Different product! ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] compactflash ata-ide
Manuel wrote: >You sure about that last thing? Meaning, you tried? Because afaik it should >just work. Well, anyways, PC cardreaders are very cheap nowadays and using >Sunrise's adapter is probably too much trouble, as the IDE connectors are >inside the PC case. I wouldn't have to use it on the PC: I have an USB cardreader for that. But to use it as a replacement for harddisk is ideal: Even on a pc: what about a Linux router with no moving parts other than the Fan for the Powersupply? ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] compactflash ata-ide
Grauw wote: And I would recommend buying the CF-IDE interface, with that you don't need an external power supply and no cables, and it's more compact. I looked on Sunrise, but there is a powercable on the CF IDE card! So it still needs power! ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] compactflash ata-ide
Patriek Lesparre wrote: > At 20:32 26-10-2003 +0100, you wrote: >> Grauw wote: >> And I would recommend buying the CF-IDE interface, >> with that you don't need an external power supply and no cables, and >> it's more compact. >> >> I looked on Sunrise, but there is a powercable on the CF IDE card! >> So it still needs power! > > Read replies! Look better! Different product! Er... yeah. As was said before, there is an CF IDE INTERFACE and a CF IDE ADAPTER. Pictures of both can be found on the IDE Compact Flash page on www.msx.ch, Sunrise hardware section. The adapter is connected to your regular IDE interface just like any harddisk, it has a master/slave switch and needs power from a power supply. The interface however is a cartridge for MSX with 2 CF slots in it. On the inside, it is basically just a regular IDE interface with two CF adapters, but then fit on one single print and put into a cartridge, and with the said advantages. ~Grauw --- Ushiko-san! Kimi wa doushite, Ushiko-san nan da!! ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] compactflash ata-ide
Hans-Peter Zeedijk wrote: Has anyone experience with the MSX compact flash ata-ide cardreaders? 1. Can it be used as a harddisk? (Boot) 2. Data on it can also be accessed (read/write) on other cardreaders for PC? (DATA exchange) 3. Does it plug in direct to IDE connector on the controller or (PC) mainboard? Or onto IDE cable? 4. Is it build and delivered nice? (ie is it a plain PCB or in a casing?) 5. How does it performes compared with other IDE devices? (HD, CD-ROM, on both MSX and PC) 6. Were can it be found/ordered/ 7. What are the prices? It seems your computer's time is one year to slow. Your mail has a date of 10/26/02. All info is here: http://www.msx.ch/sunformsx Just browse around. To be short: it's a very good product and every question you asked above should be answered with a positive answer. The reader itself can only be used on MSX, by the way. The CF card can be used on PC too, of course. -- Grtjs, Manuel PS: MSX FOR EVER! (Questions? http://faq.msxnet.org/ ) PPS: Visit my homepage at http://manuel.msxnet.org/ ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] compactflash ata-ide
First, have you been living in a cave? ^^; To answer your questions: 1. yes 2. yes 3. CF Adapter plugs in any IDE cable, CF Interface cartridge plugs in MSX cartridge slot 4. Both adapter and CF interface are nice 'n' boxed. 5. Depends on the performance of your CF card. On MSX, it will be similar to HD. 6. Sunrise 7. Check sunrise Greetz, Patriek ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
RE: [MSX] compactflash ata-ide
Check: http://www.msx.ch/sunformsx/products/hardware/ideflash.html And: http://www.msx.ch/sunformsx/ -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Hans-Peter Zeedijk Verzonden: zaterdag 26 oktober 2002 12:51 Aan: MSX Mailinglist Onderwerp: [MSX] compactflash ata-ide Has anyone experience with the MSX compact flash ata-ide cardreaders? 1. Can it be used as a harddisk? (Boot) 2. Data on it can also be accessed (read/write) on other cardreaders for PC? (DATA exchange) 3. Does it plug in direct to IDE connector on the controller or (PC) mainboard? Or onto IDE cable? 4. Is it build and delivered nice? (ie is it a plain PCB or in a casing?) 5. How does it performes compared with other IDE devices? (HD, CD-ROM, on both MSX and PC) 6. Were can it be found/ordered/ 7. What are the prices? Greetings, Hapzee ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
[MSX] compactflash ata-ide
Has anyone experience with the MSX compact flash ata-ide cardreaders? 1. Can it be used as a harddisk? (Boot) 2. Data on it can also be accessed (read/write) on other cardreaders for PC? (DATA exchange) 3. Does it plug in direct to IDE connector on the controller or (PC) mainboard? Or onto IDE cable? 4. Is it build and delivered nice? (ie is it a plain PCB or in a casing?) 5. How does it performes compared with other IDE devices? (HD, CD-ROM, on both MSX and PC) 6. Were can it be found/ordered/ 7. What are the prices? Greetings, Hapzee ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
