Folder hooks are helping me make an ass of myself - need some more creative ideas
Hey folks. I need some help here to stop making an ass of myself on mailing lists. First, a description of how I keep doing this: My imap account is divided into quite a number of folders, each of which I can have mail delivered directly into by using the 'plussed users' format - note my From header. This is because I subscribe to a good number of lists - 6 at the moment - and I don't want to make Mutt do the sorting everytime I log in. That could take forever - especially since some of those lists have several aliases and can be quite heavy in traffic. So my natural inclination was to set up a macro that automagically sets my From, Reply-To, and To headers tied to a folder hook for each folder. Easy. Works like a charm. Except when I ask for specific info, sometimes the person helping me chooses - often for good reason - to reply directly to me, rather than on list. Well, When I reply back - not with 'L' but with 'r', yep, you guessed it, I have inappropriately brought an off list discussion back on list, often leaving out some important context. Very annoying. People get quite flustered about it too. Understandibly so. So how can I 'smarten' mutt up a little so that the To header is not automagically set if I hit 'r' instead of 'L'? Thanks everyone. PS: Please refrain from taking this one off list so I don't prove once again that I'm a bloody scatterbrain :) Thanks Lou -- Louis LeBlanc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://acadia.ne.mediaone.net ԿԬ Technology is dominated by those who manage what they do not understand.
Re: editing headers in vim + clear text signing
On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 12:20:49AM +0200, Piet Delport ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2001 at 11:19:43 -0500, David Champion wrote: You can do it a bit more elegantly[1] with this ex one-liner: 1;/^$/+1,$!gpg --clearsign You might also want to redirect stderr to avoid putting gpg warnings (such as gpg: Warning: using insecure memory!) into the message: 1;/^$/+1,$!/bin/sh -c 'gpg -sat 2/dev/tty' -- Dominique
Re: Folder hooks are helping me make an ass of myself - need some more creative ideas
Louis LeBlanc wrote: Well, When I reply back - not with 'L' but with 'r', yep, you guessed it, I have inappropriately brought an off list discussion back on list, often leaving out some important context. Very annoying. People get quite flustered about it too. Understandibly so. perhaps you should not set the 'Reply-to' or 'To' headers and just the 'From' header? that's what i do. eg if i hit 'r' instead of 'L', my folder hook still sets the 'from' address to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', (which is intentional - so that follow-ups directed directly to me are at least categorized in the correct folder) hitting 'L' should automatically set the correct 'to' field so there's no need to set this. i suppose one could argue as to whether or not setting the 'Reply-To' header to the list is a good idea; i'd just nicely ask people to reply to the list if they accidentally reply to me instead. hitting 'L' should also set 'Mail-Followup-To' correctly, so assuming other peoples' clients follow this (what other mail clients besides mutt pay attention to this?) that should help make sure the reply is directed appropriately. this scheme messes me up sometimes too when i forward a message from a list and forget to edit the header. such is life. w -- GPG Public Key: http://infinitejazz.net/will/pgp/
Re: resend-message (esc e) not honouring $record
On 2001-10-01 12:12 -0700, Ben Reser wrote: On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 03:37:42PM +0200, Andre Majorel wrote: When I send a new message using an older one as a template (esc e), the new message is not saved to $record. Is that deliberate or an overlook ? It's deliberate. Search the archives this discussion has been had several times. All I found was posts by other people complaining about it, but no message explaining why it's done that way. Do you have a pointer ? -- André Majorel URL:http://www.teaser.fr/~amajorel/ (Not speaking for my employer, etc.)
Re: resend-message (esc e) not honouring $record
* On Mon Oct 01, Ben Reser wrote: It's deliberate. Search the archives this discussion has been had several times. Well, I have yet to see a good explanation why this choice has been made. I am also still searching for a convenient way to use an old message as template for a new one, without having to remember to manually save the new one. IMO, this is a quite serious problem, as it in fact makes the user lose data if he's not careful every time he uses this functionality. I have lost a handful of e-mails this way, meaning that short of sending the recipient another e-mail demanding the he send me back what I wrote to him, I have no way of recording what I have written. At least, I would very much appreciate a configuration variable by which you could choose which behavior is desirable. Jesper -- Jesper Holmberg|But how can | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | one be warm | ENST Br, BP 832, 29285 Brest, FRANCE | alone? |
Re: resend-message (esc e) not honouring $record
I'm new at this but, ?? perhaps ?? cc yourself ?? On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 01:36:40PM +0200, Jesper Holmberg wrote: * On Mon Oct 01, Ben Reser wrote: It's deliberate. Search the archives this discussion has been had several times. Well, I have yet to see a good explanation why this choice has been made. I am also still searching for a convenient way to use an old message as template for a new one, without having to remember to manually save the new one. IMO, this is a quite serious problem, as it in fact makes the user lose data if he's not careful every time he uses this functionality. I have lost a handful of e-mails this way, meaning that short of sending the recipient another e-mail demanding the he send me back what I wrote to him, I have no way of recording what I have written. At least, I would very much appreciate a configuration variable by which you could choose which behavior is desirable. Jesper -- Jesper Holmberg|But how can | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | one be warm | ENST Br, BP 832, 29285 Brest, FRANCE | alone? | -- Pat Shanahan ***[EMAIL PROTECTED]*** Registered Linux User #207535 (Registered at: http://counter.li.org)
Re: resend-message (esc e) not honouring $record
* Jesper Holmberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-10-2001 13:38]: | * On Mon Oct 01, Ben Reser wrote: | It's deliberate. Search the archives this discussion has been had | several times. | | Well, I have yet to see a good explanation why this choice has been | made. I am also still searching for a convenient way to use an old | message as template for a new one, without having to remember to | manually save the new one. I'm also interested in a good explanation ;) But, fact is that you don't need your memory on this one... (look down) | IMO, this is a quite serious problem, as it in fact makes the user lose | data if he's not careful every time he uses this functionality. I have | lost a handful of e-mails this way, meaning that short of sending the | recipient another e-mail demanding the he send me back what I wrote to | him, I have no way of recording what I have written. | | At least, I would very much appreciate a configuration variable by which | you could choose which behavior is desirable. macro index \ee resend-messagefsent_mail\n does the trick for me. But I agree that it's a workaround. I'm not sure whether you'll want another configuration variable; let's just turn it on by default. -- René Clerc - ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) There are painters who transform the sun to a yellow spot, but there are others who with the help of their art and their intelligence, transform a yellow spot into sun. -Pablo Picasso
Re: resend-message (esc e) not honouring $record
* On Tue Oct 02, pat wrote: I'm new at this but, ?? perhaps ?? cc yourself ?? You're right, that is one solution to getting my own copy of what I send. But my problem was more specific: to automatically make mutt record the fact that I've sent a new message, something it does in all cases except when I have used an older message as template. Jesper -- Jesper Holmberg|But how can | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | one be warm | ENST Br, BP 832, 29285 Brest, FRANCE | alone? |
Re: resend-message (esc e) not honouring $record
* On Tue Oct 02, René Clerc wrote: macro index \ee resend-messagefsent_mail\n does the trick for me. This does indeed do the trick. I should have been able to find that one out by myself, shouldn't I? *Blushing* But I still think this workaround should not be needed. Jesper -- Jesper Holmberg|But how can | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | one be warm | ENST Br, BP 832, 29285 Brest, FRANCE | alone? |
Re: resend-message (esc e) not honouring $record
On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 06:20:54PM +0200, Jesper Holmberg wrote: * On Tue Oct 02, pat wrote: I'm new at this but, ?? perhaps ?? cc yourself ?? You're right, that is one solution to getting my own copy of what I send. But my problem was more specific: to automatically make mutt record the fact that I've sent a new message, something it does in all cases except when I have used an older message as template. Jesper What's wrong with the copy in the 'outgoing' folder? Why does it have to show up in your Inboxor I guess you want the message filed into a specific directory? /rc -- They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin Linux-Mandrake 7.1 - 2.2.15-4mdk / Uptime: 7 days 17 hours 55 minutes
Re: resend-message (esc e) not honouring $record
* On Tue Oct 02, Ryan Cook wrote: What's wrong with the copy in the 'outgoing' folder? Why does it have to show up in your Inboxor I guess you want the message filed into a specific directory? Eh...what? I get the impression you've misunderstood something I wrote. I just want my outgoing e-mail to always show up in my outgoing folder, i.e. the folder $record points to, regardless of if I used an older message as template or not. Jesper -- Jesper Holmberg|But how can | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | one be warm | ENST Br, BP 832, 29285 Brest, FRANCE | alone? |
Re: resend-message (esc e) not honouring $record
On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 06:46:15PM +0200, Jesper Holmberg wrote: Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 18:46:15 +0200 From: Jesper Holmberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: resend-message (esc e) not honouring $record Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22i * On Tue Oct 02, Ryan Cook wrote: What's wrong with the copy in the 'outgoing' folder? Why does it have to show up in your Inboxor I guess you want the message filed into a specific directory? Eh...what? I get the impression you've misunderstood something I wrote. I just want my outgoing e-mail to always show up in my outgoing folder, i.e. the folder $record points to, regardless of if I used an older message as template or not. Ahhh...that was what I wasn't getting. /rc -- They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin Linux-Mandrake 7.1 - 2.2.15-4mdk / Uptime: 7 days 18 hours 15 minutes
[Poll] RPM User Poll - RERUN!!!! PLEASE READ!
Dear all! sigh To my great embarrassment, there has been a bug in the mutt RPM user poll page - all Red Hat users have been counted as Mandrake users... blush. Therefore: First of all: Thanks to the 47 people who took the time to complete the poll! And then: *** Could everybody who has voted for either *Mandrake* or *Red Hat* *** *** PLEASE redo the poll for these two distros?*** I will keep the results for all other distros involved as per first round, so you need to redo the Mandrake and Red Hat entries *only* - none of the others. A big THANKS!!! I'll keep the poll open until 10/10/2001, so you can add your Mandrake/Red Hat entries a second time. My apologies for this blunder! As reminder, the URL: http://www.ribbrock.org/mutt-poll.html For the mutt RPM team, Thomas P.S.: If you haven't participated at all yet, you can of course still do so until 10/10/2001. -- - Thomas Ribbrock http://mutt.linuxatwork.at (mutt RPMs) http://www.ribbrock.orgICQ#: 15839919 You have to live on the edge of reality - to make your dreams come true!
