Re: mutt for blind computerusers
On 2001-11-28 21:23:27 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: I agree with you. Perhaps there could be an optional cursor for the internal pager. Any takers? I'd include such a patch with mutt pretty much immediately if it was clean. -- Thomas Roesslerhttp://log.does-not-exist.org/
how to get text from other messages into current?
Hi- Mutt's great! But I have a question. How can I cut text from a saved message and paste it into my current composition? --aaron
Re: Bad Mail-Followup-To (was: mutt for blind computerusers)
Hi Vincent! On Don, Nov 29, 2001 at 01:01:31 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: Christian, Your Mail-Followup-To header is broken: Mail-Followup-To: Christian Schoepplein [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] as [EMAIL PROTECTED] doesn't exist, though your From header is correct. I don't know what the reason is. Any idea? No plan, sorry... Perhaps your From header isn't correct but it is modified by your local MTA? In this case, you should set it with the my_hdr command in your muttrc. If you subscribed to the mailing-list, you should use the subscribe command too. Now I'm using the my_hdr, subscribe and lists command. I can do a listreplay which wasn't posible before. Best regards, Schoeppi -- Christian Schoepplein| http://www.lily-rockt.de [EMAIL PROTECTED]| http://www.lavish.de
Re: mbox Postmark Line vs. Message Date Header?
Sam -- ...and then Samuel Padgett said... % Vineet Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: % % that you'll never again fall prey to a corrupted mailbox due to % a delivery occurring at the wrong time. % % But shouldn't well-behaved MTAs and MUAs perform locking that % prevents this from happening? Yes, they should, but - that doesn't always work over NFS - that doesn't always work with filesystem tools (eg cat) - there's probably at least one more example, too % % Sam :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg20781/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Limiting max text width
A quick and dumb one: How do I limit my e-mails to 70 cols in .muttrc?? I want lines to wrap auto at 70. I don't see a setting for that. Thanks. -Wash S y s t e m s A d m i n. -- Odhiambo Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED]The box said 'Requires Wananchi Online Ltd. www.wananchi.com Windows 95, NT, or better,' Tel: 254 2 313985-9 Fax: 254 2 313922 so I installed FreeBSD. GSM: 254 72 743 223 GSM: 254 733 744 121 This sig is McQ! :-) ++ Good news. Ten weeks from Friday will be a pretty good day. msg20782/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: help
Sam -- ...and then Sam Phomsopha said... % How do I get off this mailing list? Ask the server to unsubscribe you, of course. You kept the welcome to the list; keep this message very first email you got, right? % % Sam. :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg20783/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Limiting max text width
Wash -- You never answered my other question about your filtering, you know... ...and then Odhiambo Washington said... % % A quick and dumb one: How do I limit my e-mails to 70 cols in .muttrc?? % I want lines to wrap auto at 70. Do you mean for viewing or editing? The latter is an editor question, usually solved in vi with set wm=termsize-70 or vim with set tw=70. The former is one I haven't yet seen; mutt will wrap long lines and optionally put in markers for you, but I don't know how to get it to wrap earlier than the screen edge. % % I don't see a setting for that. In the case of the former, nor do I. % % Thanks. HTH HAND % % % -Wash % ... % GSM: 254 72 743 223 GSM: 254 733 744 121 This sig is McQ! :-) Excellent! % % ++ % Good news. Ten weeks from Friday will be a pretty good day. Oops. Well, the *first* part is, anyway. :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg20786/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mail-Followup-To
Hi, * Dairy Wall Limey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-11-29 01:11]: i don't want to have to start using unique addresses for internal lists too, but it messes up my organization when list messages get in my inbox (due to use of 'reply-all'). I don't understand the problem. Could you elaborate? Thorsten -- They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin
Re: Mail-Followup-To
Thorsten -- ...and then Thorsten Haude said... % Hi, Hello! BTW, I only just noticed your clever domain name -- cool! :-) % % * Dairy Wall Limey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-11-29 01:11]: % i don't want to have to start using unique addresses for internal lists % too, but it messes up my organization when list messages get in my inbox % (due to use of 'reply-all'). % I don't understand the problem. Could you elaborate? If he uses the william+mutt format for lists at his office, then that mail can be easily sorted. He doesn't want to have to do that, though, so the mail had better be addressed only to the mailing list (and not also copied to him, so that he gets two copies, one of which is direct to him) -- and that one probably arrives first and gets dropped in his mailbox before the other one arrives to be wiped out by his duplicate weeding filter (or just to clutter up his inbox). I've created that sort of example, by using mutt's M-F-T: header and including you, to clarify. % % Thorsten % -- % They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little % temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. % - Benjamin Franklin :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg20788/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mail-Followup-To
Hi, * David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-11-29 14:19]: ...and then Thorsten Haude said... Hello! BTW, I only just noticed your clever domain name -- cool! :-) Imagine my frustration when I learned that 'hau.de' was gone. [EMAIL PROTECTED] would have been even better. % * Dairy Wall Limey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-11-29 01:11]: % i don't want to have to start using unique addresses for internal lists % too, but it messes up my organization when list messages get in my inbox % (due to use of 'reply-all'). If he uses the william+mutt format for lists at his office, then that mail can be easily sorted. He doesn't want to have to do that, though, so the mail had better be addressed only to the mailing list (and not also copied to him, so that he gets two copies, one of which is direct to him) -- and that one probably arrives first and gets dropped in his mailbox before the other one arrives to be wiped out by his duplicate weeding filter (or just to clutter up his inbox). Yeah, the basic brain-dead-mailer-problem and its reply-to-munging or group-reply answer. Fortunately, there's Mutt. I use group-reply about once a year. I don't know why I didn't get it the first time. Dairy, you could set the Reply-To header, this is more widely honored than Mail-Followup-To. Ah. I guess they would hit group-reply anyway. Thorsten -- They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin
Re: Mail-Followup-To
Thorsten, et al -- ...and then Thorsten Haude said... % Hi, % % * David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-11-29 14:19]: % ...and then Thorsten Haude said... % Hello! BTW, I only just noticed your clever domain name -- cool! :-) % Imagine my frustration when I learned that 'hau.de' was gone. % [EMAIL PROTECTED] would have been even better. I can imagine! If only I could believe that the .tg hostmaster would stay up I'd go ahead and pay for the david.tg domain I registered when they first made their appearance :-) % % % * Dairy Wall Limey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-11-29 01:11]: % % i don't want to have to start using unique addresses for internal lists % % too, but it messes up my organization when list messages get in my inbox % % (due to use of 'reply-all'). % If he uses the william+mutt format for lists at his office, then that ... % to him) -- and that one probably arrives first and gets dropped in his % mailbox before the other one arrives to be wiped out by his duplicate % weeding filter (or just to clutter up his inbox). % Yeah, the basic brain-dead-mailer-problem and its reply-to-munging or Yeah. % group-reply answer. Fortunately, there's Mutt. I use group-reply about % once a year. % I don't know why I didn't get it the first time. Probably because you're used to using mutt ;-) % % Dairy, you could set the Reply-To header, this is more widely honored % than Mail-Followup-To. % Ah. I guess they would hit group-reply anyway. And they probably wouldn't even have the lovely reply to addr? prompt that mutt has, either :-)/2 % % Thorsten % -- % They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little % temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. % - Benjamin Franklin :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg20790/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
New Mutt User Question
I have a directory full of Unix mailboxes. I put a statement into my .muttrc like so: set folder=/path/to/my/directory/of/mailboxes I then start mutt so: mutt -y and mutt sez No incoming mailboxes defined. Huh? What am I doing wrong? What I'm trying to do is start up mutt with a browser listing all the mailboxes in that directory. thank you. ken
Re: Mail-Followup-To
Moin, * David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-11-29 16:32]: % I don't know why I didn't get it the first time. Probably because you're used to using mutt ;-) Not really, I let myself slip into a pretty heated discussion about Reply-To munging in another mailing list once. But yes, Mutt make it easy to forget it. % Dairy, you could set the Reply-To header, this is more widely honored % than Mail-Followup-To. % Ah. I guess they would hit group-reply anyway. And they probably wouldn't even have the lovely reply to addr? prompt that mutt has, either :-)/2 I don't see this. I ignore Reply-To in munging mailing lists and honor it else. You gotta love Mutt. It just occured to me that Pine only has to support Mutt's send-hook ~l 'my_hdr Reply-To: some@address' or am I missing something? With time and patience, the Piners could be made to use a simple 'reply' then. Thorsten -- They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin
Re: New Mutt User Question
Hi, * Ken Ficara [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-11-29 16:58]: I have a directory full of Unix mailboxes. I put a statement into my .muttrc like so: set folder=/path/to/my/directory/of/mailboxes I then start mutt so: mutt -y and mutt sez No incoming mailboxes defined. Huh? What am I doing wrong? Nothing that I know of, but you leave something out: mailboxes `find /path/to/my/directory/of/mailboxes -type f -print | grep -Ev '(log|backup|sent|postponed|trash)' | xargs` Somebody asked me about the xarg, and I couldn't really say whether Mutt accepts one mailbox per line. I never tried: Never change a running system. $folder sets only the '=' and '+' special variables. I think. What I'm trying to do is start up mutt with a browser listing all the mailboxes in that directory. That should work now. Thorsten -- They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin
Re: Limiting max text width
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 05:52:19 -0500 From: David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mutt Users' List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Odhiambo Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Limiting max text width ...and then Odhiambo Washington said... % % A quick and dumb one: How do I limit my e-mails to 70 cols in .muttrc?? % I want lines to wrap auto at 70. Do you mean for viewing or editing? The latter is an editor question, usually solved in vi with set wm=termsize-70 or vim with set tw=70. The former is one I haven't yet seen; mutt will wrap long lines and optionally put in markers for you, but I don't know how to get it to wrap earlier than the screen edge. I think you could set your MDA to pass messages through a reformatter, or perhaps this can be done on individual messages from inside mutt. I've been thinking about the same recently, and the thought of unattended email munging gave creeps, but I might go for it anyway once I feel comfortable enough about the software that would do this task... -- FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE 5:51PM up 37 days, 4:34, 18 users, load averages: 0.10, 0.08, 0.05
Re: Mail-Followup-To
Thorsten Haude wrote: Yeah, the basic brain-dead-mailer-problem and its reply-to-munging or group-reply answer. Fortunately, there's Mutt. I use group-reply about once a year. I don't know why I didn't get it the first time. Dairy, you could set the Reply-To header, this is more widely honored than Mail-Followup-To. Ah. I guess they would hit group-reply anyway. not only that, but Reply-To is already being set by the mailing list :( (yeah i know.) so the problem is people using group reply in their mailer. the thing i like about 'Mail-Followup-To' (or at least mutt's implementation of it) is that hitting group-reply, reply, or list reply will always use the correct reply address (ie it honors the _sender's_ preferences). in any event, looks like i'm SOL here. i may just switch back to using TO_ for a couple of my procmail recipes which will fix the problem i prefer using other headers when possible. w
mutt gpg encryption ...
hello! I hope anyone of you can help me ... when I recive a mail that ist signed mutt tells me that the signature wasn't correct . I already read in the mailinglist several threads but nothing helped: I tryed : set pgp_good_sign=gpg: Korrekte Unterschrift von it is not realy a thing that kills but it is bothering me a bit. A+ Andy -- --- Public Key fingerprint = 305C 52C8 1E5F 2E02 E391 87BE CB29 686F 003A 5687 --- _ / \ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign XAgainst HTML Mail / \ Don't diet. Download a virus to remove FAT
a dumb question about filter ...
Hi, all, This probably sounds stupid but I really get stuck here. I don't know how to setup filters to organize different mailing list into different folder, just like pine does. Thanks for any help, /Jun
Re: Mail-Followup-To
Moin, * Dairy Wall Limey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-11-29 20:58]: Thorsten Haude wrote: Yeah, the basic brain-dead-mailer-problem and its reply-to-munging or group-reply answer. Fortunately, there's Mutt. I use group-reply about once a year. I don't know why I didn't get it the first time. Dairy, you could set the Reply-To header, this is more widely honored than Mail-Followup-To. Ah. I guess they would hit group-reply anyway. not only that, but Reply-To is already being set by the mailing list :( (yeah i know.) so the problem is people using group reply in their mailer. Are you the mailing list admin? You could silenty un-munge Reply-To, then, after a few weeks, announce that you finally found a way that everyone can use 'reply'. the thing i like about 'Mail-Followup-To' (or at least mutt's implementation of it) is that hitting group-reply, reply, or list reply will always use the correct reply address (ie it honors the _sender's_ preferences). Reply-To is also intended to be set by the sender, it's only raped to Outlooker's needs so often that a second Header was needed. Thorsten -- Denn ein Tyrann ist nicht, wenn die Masse nicht geduldig stillhält. - Kurt Tucholsky
subject tag removal
This has probably been rehashed a few times in the list but I'm trying to find an efficient way to remove the tag for mailing lists. For example: Subject: [maillist] this is subject. I want to read: Subject: this is subject I have created a script that is filtered through procmail but is there a mutt solution for this? Thanks. Curt.
Re: a dumb question about filter ...
Moin, * Jun Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-11-29 23:38]: This probably sounds stupid but I really get stuck here. I don't know how to setup filters to organize different mailing list into different folder, just like pine does. Have a look at Maildrop, http://www.flounder.net/~mrsam/maildrop/ Thorsten -- If you don't claim your humanity, you will become a statistic. - Tyler Durden
Re: mutt gpg encryption ...
On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 11:04:33PM +0100, Andreas Selig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello! I hope anyone of you can help me ... when I recive a mail that ist signed mutt tells me that the signature wasn't correct . I already read in the mailinglist several threads but nothing helped: I tryed : set pgp_good_sign=gpg: Korrekte Unterschrift von it is not realy a thing that kills but it is bothering me a bit. People on the list would be more likely to be able to help you if you told us some more details. Foremost among them, I think, is the exact text of the message you get when signature verification fails. -Daniel -- Daniel E. Eisenbud [EMAIL PROTECTED] We should go forth on the shortest walk perchance, in the spirit of undying adventure, never to return,--prepared to send back our embalmed hearts only as relics to our desolate kingdoms. --Henry David Thoreau, Walking
Re: Mail-Followup-To
* Thorsten Haude ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Yeah, the basic brain-dead-mailer-problem and its reply-to-munging or group-reply answer. Fortunately, there's Mutt. I use group-reply about once a year. I have 'r' rebound to list-reply for all my mailing lists (bar one broken one). Nice having a MUA this flexible, means all the lists that use (or don't use) Reply-To: act the same :) Dairy, you could set the Reply-To header, this is more widely honored than Mail-Followup-To. Ah. I guess they would hit group-reply anyway. It would be nice to, in addition to the option to set Mail-Followup-To, to be able to set Reply-To: to the list address automatically. Anything that helps cut down the dupes is Good[tm].. -- Thomas 'Freaky' Hurst - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.aagh.net/
Re: a dumb question about filter ...
Hi Jun,
my Pine manual says that it's a bad idea to use Pine or any other
email client for this purpose. It's funny that nevertheless Pine 4
offers this kind of service.
Techies use procmail for this task. First you have to tell your Mail
Transport Agent to let procmail deliver your mail. You do this by
creating a file called ~/.forward containing this line:
| exec procmail -f-
To tell the truth, my line actually reads,
|IFS=' ' p=/usr/bin/procmail test -f $p exec $p -Yf- || exit 75 #cris
where chris is my login. I don't think this complicated stuff is
really necessary.
Now you can set up procmail to fit your needs. The procmail config
file is called ~/.procmailrc -- but now it's time for you to consult
the fine manual pages (do man procmail, man procmailrc and man
procmailex).
I just noticed that somebody suggested Maildrop. It may be wise to
look at Maildrop first -- I surmise it is easier to use. Procmail,
on the other hand, is very powerful and the de-facto standard in this
area. Enough of this -- this topic should be discussed elsewhere.
I just converted to Mutt, and I'm glad I don't have to modify anything
in my procmail configuration.
Since this is my first posting on this list, I may perhaps wave to the
developers of Mutt and congratulate them for this fine piece of
software. After I installed it at home on my Linux machine, I went
straight on into my institute and installed in on the Solaris servers
because I could not wait for the admin to install it globally. It
compiled with no hassle at all (SuSE 7.2 and Solaris 2.6 / SunOS 5.6).
Cheers,
Cristian
On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 11:38:44PM +0100, Jun Liu wrote:
This probably sounds stupid but I really get stuck here. I don't know
how to setup filters to organize different mailing list into different
folder, just like pine does.
--
}{ Cristian Pietsch
}{ http://www.interling.de
``Before Xerox, five carbons were the maximum extension of anybody's ego.''
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Re: Mail-Followup-To
Dairy Wall Limey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: in any event, looks like i'm SOL here. Gnus honors the MFT header. Recent cvs gnus also generates it. But, if you're dealing with pine users, chances are there aren't any (many?) Gnus users in the mix... ttyl, -- Josh Huber | [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
Re: a dumb question about filter ...
Cristian, et al -- Welcome to the list! ...and then Cristian said... % ... % To tell the truth, my line actually reads, % |IFS=' ' p=/usr/bin/procmail test -f $p exec $p -Yf- || exit 75 #cris % where chris is my login. I don't think this complicated stuff is % really necessary. If you're the only user on the box, that's moderately safe to say, but it's really there for a reason. You wouldn't want your MTA to try to deliver to a nonexistent program, so it's safest to test to make sure the file is there before you exec it, and you might as well set a nice, short variable name to the full path (because it might not be in the MTA's shell path, either) and save yourself some typing. If you're not using mbox format, you don't need the Yf options, but your can get messed up otherwise. Finally, if the file doesn't exist or the exec fails you want to exit with a meaningful exit status. Finally, since lots of people logically use the same procmail invocation, it's best to put a comment and your login name after the exit to ensure that the invocation line is unique so that a smart MTA doesn't skip delivering to you right after having delivered to someone else with an identical invocation (when neither of you has the comment at the end). But it's your mail; you do what you want ;-) Jun, I highly recommend procmail, but I haven't tried any other filtering and delivering methods. As Cristian said, it's really not a good idea to expect a mail user agent (MUA) to do the delivering and sorting; that's for your mail delivery agent (MDA) to handle after the mail transport agent (MTA) gets it onto the system. :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg20806/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: subject tag removal
Curt -- ...and then Curt W. Zirzow said... % This has probably been rehashed a few times in the list but I'm trying % to find an efficient way to remove the tag for mailing lists. For % example: Not a whole lot, but we've come close a few times. % % Subject: [maillist] this is subject. % % I want to read: % % Subject: this is subject % % % I have created a script that is filtered through procmail but is there a % mutt solution for this? Not really. One fellow had a need to build a Cc: line from data within the Subject: line recently and we finally came up with a way to do it by wrapping $editor -- but that's only for replies, and doesn't affect the originating mail. I think your procmail recipe is the right track. % % % Thanks. % Curt. :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg20807/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: a dumb question about filter ...
On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 07:40:18PM -0500, David T-G wrote: Cristian, et al -- Welcome to the list! ...and then Cristian said... % ... % To tell the truth, my line actually reads, % |IFS=' ' p=/usr/bin/procmail test -f $p exec $p -Yf- || exit 75 #cris % where chris is my login. I don't think this complicated stuff is % really necessary. If you're the only user on the box, that's moderately safe to say, but it's really there for a reason. You wouldn't want your MTA to try to deliver to a nonexistent program, so it's safest to test to make sure the file is there before you exec it, and you might as well set a nice, short variable name to the full path (because it might not be in the MTA's shell path, either) and save yourself some typing. If you're not using mbox format, you don't need the Yf options, but your can get messed up otherwise. Finally, if the file doesn't exist or the exec fails you want to exit with a meaningful exit status. Finally, since lots of people logically use the same procmail invocation, it's best to put a comment and your login name after the exit to ensure that the invocation line is unique so that a smart MTA doesn't skip delivering to you right after having delivered to someone else with an identical invocation (when neither of you has the comment at the end). I would suggest you also use the -t flag on procmail, which invokes soft-bounces with mail delivery problems (see man procmail for details). -- Regards Cliff
Script to rebuild quotes
This isn't entirely mutt related, but I'm sure some of you will be
interested.
I just finished (for tonight :) tweaking a script designed to rebuild
quote strings with the One True Quote String (' ', obviously), even if
you're replying to someone with a really evil one. For instance:
name : |% TH Bla bla, bla bla bla
Becomes:
Bla bla, bla bla bla
It handles most special cases (including smileys, URI's and From),
and can be configured to compress quotes (' '), strip trailing
whitespace and not generate quotes for blank lines.
It's written in Ruby (http://www.ruby-lang.org/), but I can do a Perl
version if anyone really doesn't want to install Ruby.
Grab it at: http://freak.aagh.net/code/quotefix.rb
--
Thomas 'Freaky' Hurst - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.aagh.net/
Re: Mail-Followup-To
Thomas Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Thorsten Haude ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Yeah, the basic brain-dead-mailer-problem and its reply-to-munging or group-reply answer. Fortunately, there's Mutt. I use group-reply about once a year. I have 'r' rebound to list-reply for all my mailing lists (bar one broken one). Nice having a MUA this flexible, means all the lists that use (or don't use) Reply-To: act the same :) But won't people who aren't subscribed to the lists not receive your messages? Sam
Re: Mail-Followup-To
* Samuel Padgett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Thomas Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have 'r' rebound to list-reply for all my mailing lists (bar one broken one). Nice having a MUA this flexible, means all the lists that use (or don't use) Reply-To: act the same :) But won't people who aren't subscribed to the lists not receive your messages? A rare special case, especially since the majority of the lists I'm on don't even allow external posts. I'd rather one person with questionable reasons posting to the list not receive a message than 4 people receive two each. -- Thomas 'Freaky' Hurst - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.aagh.net/
Re: New Mutt User Question
Hi, On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 Thorsten [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the ether: [-- snip --] No incoming mailboxes defined. Huh? What am I doing wrong? Nothing that I know of, but you leave something out: mailboxes `find /path/to/my/directory/of/mailboxes -type f -print | grep -Ev '(log|backup|sent|postponed|trash)' | xargs` Ahh .. neato ! earlier I had : mailboxes `find ~/Email -maxdepth 1 -type f ! -name sent-mail ! -name postponed -printf %p ` But, that becomes way too tedious as the list increases. The egrep/xargs combination works wonderfully. Thanks :-) Somebody asked me about the xarg, and I couldn't really say whether Mutt accepts one mailbox per line. I never tried: Never change a running system. Yes, xargs just echoes them one-by-one, I guess. pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg20812/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: patches (colored questions, conditional tag-prefix)
Hi, On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 christophe [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the ether: [-- snip --] Any solutions ? Implement a tag-thread-pattern. That's what I intent to do as soon I find time for it. Do post your results. Please Prahlad, upload your gpg key. http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/files/pgpkey.asc Key fingerprint = 6537 4A5F E875 71AD 10B3 9D87 20A8 6339 2125 BB86 pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg20813/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Trailing Lines
Hi, On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 dallam [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the ether: Silly question that I need an answer to. I seem to have *lots* of trailing lines when I post or reply, how do I correct this? In Vim, :g/^$/d That will remove _all_ blank lines, so you will just have to add them where they occur in the body of your mail. pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg20814/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
patch-1.3.23.cd.edit_threads-6[.CYA] not working
Hi, Just got the above patch from David T-G's mutt-build-cocktail, but it doesn't work for me. make barfs on me giving errors like so : snipped out for brevity thread.c: In function `clean_references': thread.c:1233: structure has no member named `next' thread.c:1233: warning: left-hand operand of comma expression has no effect thread.c:1236: structure has no member named `child' thread.c:1241: structure has no member named `parent' thread.c:1254: structure has no member named `refs_changed' . . . thread.c: At top level: thread.c:1358: redefinition of `mutt_link_threads' thread.c:1285: `mutt_link_threads' previously defined here make[2]: *** [thread.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/prahlad/mutt' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/prahlad/mutt' make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 /snipped It gives similar errors in the functions 'mutt_break_threads', 'link_threads', etc. Has anyone applied this patch successfully ? Any clues as to why this is happening ? This patch could be _very_ useful ... if only I can get it to work :-( pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg20815/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Limiting max text width
Hi, On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 Odhiambo [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the ether: A quick and dumb one: How do I limit my e-mails to 70 cols in .muttrc?? I want lines to wrap auto at 70. I don't see a setting for that. Maybe a $display_filter pointing to a perl/python script ? But, IMHO, this could be a dangerous option for mails in which the author has not put line-breaks intentionally - for eg. looong commands, which extend over lines should not be wrapped. I prefer smart_wrap, and markers options in my muttrc.But, any case, post your results. pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg20816/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: how to get text from other messages into current?
On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 12:54:01AM +0100, Thorsten Haude wrote: Moin, * Aaron Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-11-29 00:05]: How can I cut text from a saved message and paste it into my current composition? What about using esce ? This resends the message, using the current message as a template, or if your mailbox file isn't too large, you could use :r within vim to read a file into the current file. -- David Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: patch-1.3.23.cd.edit_threads-6[.CYA] not working
On 2001-11-30 10:32:23 +0530, Prahlad Vaidyanathan wrote: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i [...] Any clues as to why this is happening ? This patch could be _very_ useful ... if only I can get it to work :-( I suppose that's because you're applying this patch to a version of mutt with the new threading implementation included. -- Thomas Roesslerhttp://log.does-not-exist.org/ msg20818/pgp00010.pgp Description: PGP signature
[Announce] mutt-1.3.24i is out (BETA).
I've just released the next mutt beta, version 1.3.24i. Some of the more interesting changes against mutt-1.3.23i: - New and improved threading code from Daniel Eisenbud. See also $duplicate_threads, $hide_missing, $thread_received. - ANSI colors in the builtin pager are now controlled by a variable $allow_ansi, and are turned OFF by default. The colorization of attachment markers (and PGP output messages) in the pager is done a bit different, and more difficult to cheat. In particular, it's not possible to consistently trick two instances of mutt which were started at different points of time. - There's a $wrapmargin variable which gives users some control over mutt's wrapping in the pager, and in the text/plain; format=flowed handler. The default value of this variable is 0. - Of course, bug fixes. There's an outstanding mail loss problem with this version: On system where write(2) lies about the success of an operation (for instance, with NFS folders or when quotas are enabled), mutt may not detect such errors when writing to mbox folders, possibly even losing mail. The bug is mutt's, and will be fixed next week (I hope). Since it's present in all mutt versions, there's no point in holding up this release due to the problem. See http://bugs.guug.de/Bugs/db/89/895.html for details. Mutt 1.3.24i can be found at ftp://ftp.mutt.org/pub/mutt/. Have a nice week-end. -- Thomas Roesslerhttp://log.does-not-exist.org/ msg20819/pgp00011.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mail-Followup-To
Thomas Hurst wrote: * Samuel Padgett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Thomas Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have 'r' rebound to list-reply for all my mailing lists (bar one broken one). Nice having a MUA this flexible, means all the lists that use (or don't use) Reply-To: act the same :) But won't people who aren't subscribed to the lists not receive your messages? A rare special case, especially since the majority of the lists I'm on don't even allow external posts. I'd rather one person with questionable reasons posting to the list not receive a message than 4 people receive two each. this is why i think it would be cool if there was a feature (or patch) to allow you to do something like: if(a valid list); bind 'r' or 'R' to 'ask-yes list reply' ie if the message comes from a known or subscribed list, and you hit reply or group-reply, mutt would say: reply to list y,n as a friendly reminder. don't know if this is possible, nor am i a programmer so w
Re: patch-1.3.23.cd.edit_threads-6[.CYA] not working
Hi Prahlad, Any clues as to why this is happening ? This patch could be _very_ useful ... if only I can get it to work :-( this patch is closely tied to the threading code. In the 1.3.23.1 release, this part of the Mutt code has been almost completely rewritten by Daniel Eisenbud in an effort to improve its efficiency. Thus the edit_threads patch won't apply anymore. If you want to use it, you should use Mutt 1.3.23. Or wait a little... I will rewrite the patch so that it can work along with the new threading code. -- Cedric
Re: [Announce] mutt-1.3.24i is out (BETA).
Thomas Roessler wrote: I've just released the next mutt beta, version 1.3.24i. Some of the more interesting changes against mutt-1.3.23i: - New and improved threading code from Daniel Eisenbud. See also $duplicate_threads, $hide_missing, $thread_received. i'm sorry if i'm missing something obvious, but since installing 1.3.24, the trees that indicate threads are showing up a bit funny. each '-' is preceeded with a question mark. is this a bug, or is there something else wrong? ie: - now appears as: ?- --- now appears as: ?-?-?- this happens with ascii_chars set and with it unset. i tried a couple different termcap entries i'm using Eterm (checked in xterm as well and got the same response). i had originally tried patching mutt with a couple of usual patches, but i tried compiling it without them and had the same results. this is on a debian linux machine (i'm viewing it on a FreeBSD machine). zugzug% /usr/bin/mutt -v Mutt 1.3.24i (2001-11-29) Copyright (C) 1996-2001 Michael R. Elkins and others. Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'. Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details. System: Linux 2.2.14 (i686) [using ncurses 5.0] Compile options: -DOMAIN +DEBUG -HOMESPOOL -USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK -DL_STANDALONE +USE_FCNTL -USE_FLOCK -USE_POP -USE_IMAP -USE_GSS -USE_SSL -USE_SASL +HAVE_REGCOMP -USE_GNU_REGEX +HAVE_COLOR +HAVE_START_COLOR +HAVE_TYPEAHEAD +HAVE_BKGDSET +HAVE_CURS_SET +HAVE_META +HAVE_RESIZETERM +HAVE_PGP -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS -SUN_ATTACHMENT +ENABLE_NLS -LOCALES_HACK +HAVE_WC_FUNCS +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET +HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR +HAVE_ICONV -ICONV_NONTRANS +HAVE_GETSID -HAVE_GETADDRINFO ISPELL=/usr/bin/ispell SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail MAILPATH=/var/mail PKGDATADIR=/usr/local/share/mutt SYSCONFDIR=/etc EXECSHELL=/bin/sh -MIXMASTER To contact the developers, please mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. To report a bug, please use the flea(1) utility. any ideas? william yardley newdream network.
Re: [Announce] mutt-1.3.24i is out (BETA).
David Champion wrote: Dairy Wall Limey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [responding on list again in case someone else has any ideas] i'm sorry if i'm missing something obvious, but since installing 1.3.24, the trees that indicate threads are showing up a bit funny. each '-' is preceeded with a question mark. is this a bug, or is there something else wrong? I think that this is what $hide_missing toggles. hrmm this makes sense... setting this does change the number of '?'s... putting: set hide_missing gives one question mark, and putting: unset hide_missing (or set hide_missing=no) gives lots. is there a way to hide the question marks entirely as in older versions of mutt? i find them somewhat distracting. maybe i just need to get used to them. threads ARE normal if no deleted messages in a thread exist, so the question marks are definitely related to missing messages. i'm using Maildir if that makes a difference. i hope that helps... perhaps i'm missing a configuration option or something. on a related note, if i set sysconfdir to /etc, shouldn't: make install put the new 'Muttrc' into /etc ? the one on my system was way out of date. in any event, thanks for the info! will
