Re: Working with mbox

2002-01-06 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park

Alas! David T-G spake thus:
 % The .muttrc is fairly robust. You can put almost any shell command into
 % backticks (``), and it will be as though the output of that command is
 % actually in the .muttrc file. This is why mutt is so much better than
 % pine :)
 
 Um, yeah; that's the *only* reason.  Sre...
 
 *grin*

Well, sure there are a few hundred more, but that's one of the big ones
(for me, anyway). I love scripting stuff into my .muttrc :)

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Re: Add header for gpg key location

2002-01-06 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park

Alas! Nick Wilson spake thus:
 Hi aqain.
 Someone mentioned to me that you could add a header to mails giving the
 location of your gpg public key.
 
 How is this done, or are there some useful docs on the topic?
 I figure I just create a page from the export-key func on my site and
 then point people to it?

You could do that with my_hdr (which is how I did the X-* headers on
this email), but I think it is much better to just submit your key to a
few popular keyservers for everybody else to download automatically :)

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Re: next/prev unread

2002-01-06 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park

Alas! David T-G spake thus:
 % I wonder who it's actually encrypted to...
 
 Herself, of course.  She's probably one of those people who goes around
 talking to herself and so particular about her conversations that she
 doesn't even want anyone to listen in ;-)

I get it; trying to sign it with her key and accidentally encrypting it
with her key. Lets not bug her too much; we all make mistakes. ;)

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Re: how make From: header dependent on recipient?

2002-01-06 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park

Alas! Tom Jones spake thus:
 (2)when replying to a message, look at the delivered-to, to, cc,
 etc headers. If one of them is in the list from (1), set the From: header
 to that. Otherwise set the From: value to a default value.

Look into send-hooks. The Fine Manual has everything you need to know. 

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Re: Color mails which are a reply to a mail from me?

2002-01-06 Thread Aaron Schrab

At 20:34 -0500 05 Jan 2002, parv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
 wrote Aaron Schrab thusly...

   color index red default %~P
 
 aaron, i have been using similar syntax for the same purpose since mutt
 v1.2.something (less than 1.2.4 for sure) created from freebsd ports, 
 now on v1.3.25i, w/o any problems.  syntax is...
 
   color index red default ~P
   ^- notice the missing '%'
 
 ...so how does the patch figure in?

It adds support for the % modifier, which causes the rest of the match
operator to match against the parent of the message (the message that it
was in reply to), rather than the message itself.

So while ~P matches messages that you wrote yourself, %~P matches
messages that are replies to messages that you wrote.

 
 Although that would only work if your message was in the same
 mailbox.
 
 i didn't understand the above statement.  when you say message(s)
 in the same mailbox, what do you mean by it?

Since mutt doesn't keep information about messages not in the current
mailbox, the parent of a message needs to be in the current mailbox in
order to match against it.

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Re: Working with mbox

2002-01-06 Thread Benjamin Smith

On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 01:30:35AM -0700, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
 Alas! Benjamin Smith spake thus:
  The ways that script works is by outputting the muttrc to a tempory
  file, the name of which is outputted for source, but what you can do is
  just to put:
  
  `~/bin/do-whatever.sh`
  
  In the muttrc and mutt will interpret the output of the shell script
  without the need of tempory files.
 
 Nope, that was the first thing I tried, didn't work. I had to modify the
 script to output the mbox hooks to a temp file, and then output the
 tempfile's name to stdout, which could then be sourced in the .muttrc.

Strange, I seemed to work fine with me when I tried

`echo push ?`

so that mutt would always popup the help screen.

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Re: pgp hook patches

2002-01-06 Thread David T-G

Dale, et al --

...and then Dale Woolridge said...
% 
% David noted that my recent pgp-hook extension patch conflicts with

Hey, I'm famous! *grin*


% Bardur Arantsson's pgp-hook-extension patch.  Borrowing Bardur's
% idea and following David's suggestion, I have implemented the same
% idea following the existing hook model more closely.  You can find
% the new patch at http://www.woolridge.org/mutt/.  Bardur's patch

Thanks a bunch!  I'm [finally] trying it out in the cocktail now.


% extended pgp-hook from
%   pgp-hook pattern keyID
% to
%   pgp-hook pattern keyID_1 [, keyID_2] ...
% 
% My patch, aside from the pgp_confirmhook/pgp_autokeyselect support,
% now allows multiple pgp-hook's with the same pattern, e.g.:
%   pgp-hook pattern keyID_1
%   pgp-hook pattern keyID_2
%   ...

So does your patch include Bardur's functionality and then go farther, or
do the two complement each other?


% --
% -Dale


:-D
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News reader that's good with mutt?

2002-01-06 Thread Nick Wilson

Hi everyone.
I just wanted to know if there were any news readers that would
compliment mutt nicely.
I've just been looking at nn but it was way over my head to setup
properly.

Thanks
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Re: News reader that's good with mutt?

2002-01-06 Thread David T-G

Nick --

...and then Nick Wilson said...
% 
% Hi everyone.

Hello again!


% I just wanted to know if there were any news readers that would
% compliment mutt nicely.

Well, some might say slrn, since I hear that the keybindings are similar.
Others might say mutt, since there are some mutt NNTP patches out there.


% I've just been looking at nn but it was way over my head to setup
% properly.

Well, at least you'd know mutt :-)


% 
% Thanks
% -- 
% 
% Nick Wilson
% 
% Tel:  +45 3325 0688
% Fax:  +45 3325 0677
% Web:  www.explodingnet.com


HTH  HAND

:-D
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Re: News reader that's good with mutt?

2002-01-06 Thread Nick Wilson

* David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020106 12:29]:
 Nick --
 
 ...and then Nick Wilson said...
 % 
 % Hi everyone.
 
 Hello again!
 
 
 % I just wanted to know if there were any news readers that would
 % compliment mutt nicely.
 
 Well, some might say slrn, since I hear that the keybindings are similar.
 Others might say mutt, since there are some mutt NNTP patches out there.
 
 
 % I've just been looking at nn but it was way over my head to setup
 % properly.
 
 Well, at least you'd know mutt :-)
 
 
 % 
 % Thanks
 % -- 
 % 
 % Nick Wilson
 % 
 % Tel:+45 3325 0688
 % Fax:+45 3325 0677
 % Web:www.explodingnet.com
 
 
 HTH  HAND
 
 :-D
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Thanks David, I'll look into mutt. 
Now I'm getting the hang of it I'm completely addicted!

Cheers

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Re: News reader that's good with mutt?

2002-01-06 Thread Thorsten Haude

Hi,

* David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-01-06 12:55]:
You should try replying in context instead of at the bottom; it's even
better ;-)
Yeah, and we like totally unlike anything that would made mails hard
to read for no good reasons.

Thorsten
-- 
Question Authority!



Re: News reader that's good with mutt?

2002-01-06 Thread David T-G

Thorsten --

...and then Thorsten Haude said...
% 
% Hi,
% 
% * David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-01-06 12:55]:
% You should try replying in context instead of at the bottom; it's even
% better ;-)
% Yeah, and we like totally unlike anything that would made mails hard
% to read for no good reasons.

Absolutely.  Couldn't agree with you more.


% 
% Thorsten
% -- 
% Question Authority!


:-D
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Re: News reader that's good with mutt?

2002-01-06 Thread Nick Wilson

* Thorsten Haude [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020106 14:22]:
 Hi,
 
 * David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-01-06 12:55]:
 You should try replying in context instead of at the bottom; it's even
 better ;-)
 Yeah, and we like totally unlike anything that would made mails hard
 to read for no good reasons.

So does that mean you are for 'replying in context' or against?
I couldn't understand your sentence.

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Re: multipart/alternative and text/html

2002-01-06 Thread Philip Mak

On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 09:21:25PM +0700, budsz wrote:
 How can I make mutt able to display text/html attachments inline, WITHOUT
 making it pick text/html (instead of text/plain) when the original message
 was sent as multipart/alternative? I find the text/html versions to be
 formatted worse.
 
 If you want to make easy pls install metamail, copy mailcap to home
 directory.

I don't understand how that applies to my problem... I already have
metamail installed on my system, and my .mailcap file IS in my home
directory.

BTW, why'd you CC your message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]?



Patch for mutt with Mixmaster 2.9beta32

2002-01-06 Thread Johan Andersson

Hi.

When I was setting up Mixmaster with mutt, I didn't find the
recommended version of Mixmaster, so I tried Mixmaster 2.9beta32.  It
didn't quite work, but I figured out it was because Mixmaster now
wanted commas between the remailers in the command line.

I haven't bothered researching when this changed.  And I suppose this
could be checked at compile time.  But autoconf  co are not quite my
friends yet.

So, FWIW, attached is a patch that might be the right thing for you if
you have a newer version of Mixmaster and mutt is acting up.

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diff -u mutt-1.3.22.orig/remailer.c mutt-1.3.22/remailer.c
--- mutt-1.3.22.orig/remailer.c Thu Apr 26 15:15:20 2001
+++ mutt-1.3.22/remailer.c  Sat Dec  8 18:27:09 2001
@@ -751,12 +751,13 @@
   int i;
 
   snprintf (cmd, sizeof (cmd), cat %s | %s -m -l, tempfile, Mixmaster);
-  for (; chain; chain = chain-next)
+  for (i=0; chain; chain = chain-next)
   {
 strfcpy (tmp, cmd, sizeof (tmp));
-snprintf (cmd, sizeof (cmd), %s %s, tmp, (char *) chain-data);
+snprintf (cmd, sizeof (cmd), %s%s%s, tmp, i++ ? , :  ,
+ (char *) chain-data);
   }
-  
+
   if (!option (OPTNOCURSES))
 mutt_endwin (NULL);
   



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Re: News reader that's good with mutt?

2002-01-06 Thread Thorsten Haude

Moin,

* Nick Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-01-06 14:26]:
* Thorsten Haude [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020106 14:22]:
 * David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-01-06 12:55]:
 You should try replying in context instead of at the bottom; it's even
 better ;-)
 Yeah, and we like totally unlike anything that would made mails hard
 to read for no good reasons.
So does that mean you are for 'replying in context' or against?
I couldn't understand your sentence.
Sorry to confuse you, I was only referring to an old quarrel with
David.

IMHO you should make reasonable bits out of the mail you answer and
write your answer in each context.

Thorsten
-- 
There is no drug known to man which becomes safer when its
production and distribution are handed over to criminals.



Re: News reader that's good with mutt?

2002-01-06 Thread Nick Wilson

* Thorsten Haude [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020106 15:40]:
 Moin,
 
 * Nick Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-01-06 14:26]:
 * Thorsten Haude [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020106 14:22]:
  * David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-01-06 12:55]:
  You should try replying in context instead of at the bottom; it's even
  better ;-)
  Yeah, and we like totally unlike anything that would made mails hard
  to read for no good reasons.
 So does that mean you are for 'replying in context' or against?
 I couldn't understand your sentence.
 Sorry to confuse you, I was only referring to an old quarrel with
 David.
 
 IMHO you should make reasonable bits out of the mail you answer and
 write your answer in each context.
 
 Thorsten
 -- 
 There is no drug known to man which becomes safer when its
 production and distribution are handed over to criminals.

Problem is that I find that format more confusing and prefer to only
quote if the point I refer to _really_ needs it. (like it's a really
long mail)

I take it that this topic is much debated?
Or do I constitute a minority? :)

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Re: Patch for mutt with Mixmaster 2.9beta32

2002-01-06 Thread Johan Andersson

On Sun, 06 Jan 2002, Ken Wahl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I thought the issue with the newer versions of Mixmaster was that they
 didn't accept the -T switch to view remailer lists?  2 nights ago I
 spent hours on the mutt-users mail archive reading anything that had to
 do with Mixmaster.

Mix-2.9beta32 comes with the -T switch.

 I did manage to find an old redhat rpm of mixmaster 2.04 that I was able
 to install on RH 7.1 .  It works by itself fine.  It fails in mutt.
 Mutt is able to bring up the Mix menu and let me choose remailers but
 when I send I can see the shell output a lot of garbage ( Error
 repeatedly ) and the message doesn't get sent. And yes I compiled mutt
 with the --with-mixmaster=/usr/lib/mixmaster configuration switch.

This is exactly the symptom I experienced.  Try choosing only one
remailer.  If I remember correctly, that worked even before I patched
mutt.

 2 questions:
 
 Is your patch the only patch that you know of that is needed to run
 newer versions of mixmaster?

I dare only speak about Mix-2.9beta32.  It works perfectly after
applying only this patch.

 Do you think it will work with 1.3.25i?

I just had a look at the 1.3.25i source.  My patch won't apply.  But
it appears as if this problem is already fixed.  If you're using
1.3.25i and Mixmaster still doesn't work, something else must be
wrong.  There's some new dependencies in 1.3.25i though, so I haven't
tried compiling it myself yet.  I might be wrong about this.

 And finally, a big thanks for coding the patch.  It seemed that interest
 in Mixmaster had completely died out.

No problem.  Sorry I didn't send it to the list earlier so you had to
waste all those hours reading the archives =)  I personally use mutt
because of its gpg and mix support, so there's still some interest

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Re: News reader that's good with mutt?

2002-01-06 Thread Nick Wilson

* Morten Liebach [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020106 16:19]:
 On 2002-01-06 15:45:11 +0100, Nick Wilson wrote:
   IMHO you should make reasonable bits out of the mail you answer and
   write your answer in each context.
 
 The above *is* the gospel WRT answering emails! :-)
 
   There is no drug known to man which becomes safer when its
   production and distribution are handed over to criminals.
  
  Problem is that I find that format more confusing and prefer to only
  quote if the point I refer to _really_ needs it. (like it's a really
  long mail)
 
 For example I first thought you were commenting on Thorsten's quite nice
 .sig, but you were not, this is confusing IMHO.
  
  I take it that this topic is much debated?
 
 Yes!
 
  Or do I constitute a minority? :)
 
 Yes! (I hope ;-)
 
 Have a nice day
  Morten

I'll take it under consideration!


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Re: News reader that's good with mutt?

2002-01-06 Thread Benjamin Smith

On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 03:45:11PM +0100, Nick Wilson wrote:
 * Thorsten Haude [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020106 15:40]:
  Moin,
  
  * Nick Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-01-06 14:26]:
  * Thorsten Haude [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020106 14:22]:
   * David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-01-06 12:55]:
   You should try replying in context instead of at the bottom; it's even
   better ;-)
   Yeah, and we like totally unlike anything that would made mails hard
   to read for no good reasons.
  So does that mean you are for 'replying in context' or against?
  I couldn't understand your sentence.
  Sorry to confuse you, I was only referring to an old quarrel with
  David.
  
  IMHO you should make reasonable bits out of the mail you answer and
  write your answer in each context.
  
  Thorsten
  -- 
  There is no drug known to man which becomes safer when its
  production and distribution are handed over to criminals.
 
 Problem is that I find that format more confusing and prefer to only
 quote if the point I refer to _really_ needs it. (like it's a really
 long mail)
 
 I take it that this topic is much debated?
 Or do I constitute a minority? :)

Its also good if people don't quote signatures as people names are given
in the attrib lines.


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tagging in browser

2002-01-06 Thread Roman Neuhauser

/usr/local/share/doc/mutt/html/manual-6.html says:
%t * if the file is tagged, blank otherwise
 
when I press '?' in the browser, I see this:
t   tag-entry  tag the current entry

but it doesn't work:

(hit 't')
-- Mutt: Mailboxes [11]
Tagging is not supported.

This is mutt-1.3.23i.

-- 
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Re: News reader that's good with mutt?

2002-01-06 Thread Thorsten Haude

Moin,

* Nick Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-01-06 15:45]:
Problem is that I find that format more confusing and prefer to only
quote if the point I refer to _really_ needs it. (like it's a really
long mail)
Let's take this example:
- - - Schnipp - - -
 There is no drug known to man which becomes safer when its
 production and distribution are handed over to criminals.

Problem is that I find that format more confusing and prefer to only
quote if the point I refer to _really_ needs it. (like it's a really
long mail)
- - - Schnapp - - -
Huh?

What about this:
- - - Schnipp - - -
 IMHO you should make reasonable bits out of the mail you answer and
 write your answer in each context.

Problem is that I find that format more confusing and prefer to only
quote if the point I refer to _really_ needs it. (like it's a really
long mail)
- - - Schnapp - - -

I like the second more.

Thorsten
-- 
He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction
himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his
taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.
- Thomas Jefferson



Re: Searching through headers? (Message-ID)

2002-01-06 Thread Im Eunjea

* Carlos Laviola [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-01-06 15:04]:
 Hello,
 
 I'd like to search for a header, specifically, the Message-ID header,
 but haven't found a way to do that in Mutt yet.  Do you know how?
 
 Thanks,
 Carlos.
 

http://mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-4.html#ss4.2

~h EXPR messages which contain EXPR in the message header
~i ID   message which match ID in the ``Message-ID'' field


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1.3.25 builds with S-LANG - PuTTy colors now munged

2002-01-06 Thread Jack Baty

I finally got 1.3.25 built on a FreeBSD 4.4 box. I had previously been
running 1.3.22.

After installing from the port, colors are no longer working properly using
Putty. By not working I mean that it seems the foreground and background
colors are reversed in some cases. Text that was previously green on a
default background is now black on a green background.  The default
background does not seem to show through. In other cases, the text color is
completely different from those defined in my .muttrc. No other changes were
made that I'm aware of, so I started poking around in the makefile. I noticed
that during the install that slang was also installed, which I'd not seen
before.  The Makefile says...

# In general you can choose between using the SLANG port (which is really
# recommended and is now the default) and ncurses (WITH_MUTT_NCURSES). If you
# don't want to use SLANG define WITHOUT_MUTT_SLANG.

Now, before I go around messing with trying to go back to using ncurses, I'd
like to know if anyone knows if there's a way to fix the color issue while
still using slang, since that seems to now be recommended. I know nothing
about curses or S-LANG btw, so I'm pretty much flying blind here.




-- 
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Re: multipart/alternative and text/html

2002-01-06 Thread David T-G

Philip --

...and then Philip Mak said...
% 
% How can I make mutt able to display text/html attachments inline, WITHOUT
% making it pick text/html (instead of text/plain) when the original message
% was sent as multipart/alternative? I find the text/html versions to be
% formatted worse.

Look into section 5.5 of the manual and put something like

  auto_view text/html   # autoview of HTML after dump 
from lynx (see .mailcap)
  alternative_order text/plain text/enriched text/html  # I'd prefer simple text, 
though; got some?

into your muttrc file.


% 
% This is my .mailcap for text/html:
% 
% text/html; lynx %s; nametemplate=%s.html
% text/html; lynx -dump %s; nametemplate=%s.html; copiousoutput
% 
% Also, should I look into using w3m or links instead of lynx? I heard
% that some people (prefer to?) use those.

I hear that both are good, but have been too lazy to check them out :-)


:-D
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Re: 1.3.25 builds with S-LANG - PuTTy colors now munged

2002-01-06 Thread Thomas Dickey

On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 04:18:19PM -0500, Jack Baty wrote:
 
 Now, before I go around messing with trying to go back to using ncurses, I'd
 like to know if anyone knows if there's a way to fix the color issue while
 still using slang, since that seems to now be recommended. I know nothing

not recommended.

slang users just tend to be a lot louder (and there are more slang users
than developers...)

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Re: multipart/alternative and text/html

2002-01-06 Thread Nuno Teixeira

On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 04:23:36PM -0500, David T-G wrote:
| Philip --
| 
| ...and then Philip Mak said...
| % 
| % How can I make mutt able to display text/html attachments inline, WITHOUT
| % making it pick text/html (instead of text/plain) when the original message
| % was sent as multipart/alternative? I find the text/html versions to be
| % formatted worse.
| 
| Look into section 5.5 of the manual and put something like
| 
|   auto_view text/html # autoview of HTML after dump 
|from lynx (see .mailcap)
|   alternative_order text/plain text/enriched text/html# I'd prefer simple 
|text, though; got some?
| 
| into your muttrc file.
| 
| 
| % 
| % This is my .mailcap for text/html:
| % 
| % text/html; lynx %s; nametemplate=%s.html
| % text/html; lynx -dump %s; nametemplate=%s.html; copiousoutput
| % 
| % Also, should I look into using w3m or links instead of lynx? I heard
| % that some people (prefer to?) use those.
| 
| I hear that both are good, but have been too lazy to check them out :-)
| 
| 
| :-D
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  Hi,
  
  Can I use the same config with w3m?
  
  Thanks,

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Re: how make From: header dependent on recipient?

2002-01-06 Thread Im Eunjea

* Tom Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-01-06 00:53]:
 
 (2)when replying to a message, look at the delivered-to, to, cc,
 etc headers. If one of them is in the list from (1), set the From: header
 to that. Otherwise set the From: value to a default value.
 

I think you can use message-hook with ~h pattern.
something like this:
 
message-hook '~h ^To:.*blah@blah\.org' \
'my_hdr From: someone nobody@localhost'

or

message-hook ~p 'my_hdr From: someone nobody@localhost'


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Re: pgp hook patches

2002-01-06 Thread Dale Woolridge

On  6-Jan-2002 06:12 David T-G wrote:
|
| So does your patch include Bardur's functionality and then go farther, or
| do the two complement each other?

My patch should work as a replacement as it includes all the
functionality of Bardur's patch, albeit with slightly different
syntax.  The implementation is altogether different too.
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Re: multipart/alternative and text/html

2002-01-06 Thread Im Eunjea

* Nuno Teixeira [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-01-06 22:06]:
   
   Can I use the same config with w3m?
   

Yes, you can.
This is my mailcap entry:

#text/html; w3m %s; nametemplate=%s.html
text/html; w3m -dump %s; nametemplate=%s.html; copiousoutput


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Re: sentmail and gpg

2002-01-06 Thread Michael Wagner

On Samstag, 05. Jan. 2002 at 23:22:42, David Clarke wrote:
 On Sat, 05 Jan 2002, Markus Boelter wrote:
  How is it possible to store the sent-mail in sent-mail-folder (and
  enrypt it with my own key)?
  
 Howdy,
   Simply done with the encrypt-to option for gnupg.  Just add
 encrypt-to your-keyid to your ~/.gnupg/options, where you replace
 your-keyid with the id of your public key and it will encrypt
 everything with your key as well as the recipients.  That way you can
 read it.

Hello David,

must I put my pub key-id or my sub key-id in ~/.gnupg/options? I'm
not working much with gpg, so I don't no it. I make 

$gpg --list-keys walfinger

and get 2 lines. Must I take the number of the first or the second
line?

Thx in advance
Michael

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Mutt, SuSE Gnupg

2002-01-06 Thread Dallam

Hi List,

I am currently using:
Mutt 1.3.22.1i
Vim 6.0av
SuSE 7.1
Gnupg 1.0.6

The Problem:
When emailing, after I chose b(oth) sign/encrypt I type y to mail,
enter my passphrase and in konsole I get the following:
gpg: A89A2371--: skipped: public key not found.
Press any key to continue.
If I then go to my outbox and check the mail I had just sent, this
is all that is in the body:
[--PGP output follows (current time, etc)--]
[--Error: could not create a pgp subprocess!--]

What steps I have taken to resolve the problem:
1. Read the FAQ at gnupg.org (which fixed a second problem I was
   having).
2. Multiple google searches for related postings.
3. Related man pages (mutt and gpg)
4. Justins' site (codesorcery.net)
5. www.suse.de/en Using Mutt and gpg for email (for older versions
   of mutt and gpg though I tried it as well, didn't work)
6. Posted to suse list. Received one response referring me to kmail.
7. Posted to gnugp-users list. Received no response.

I created the keys of course using --gen-key. I also installed
geheimnis as well as gpa, and --list-keys Dallam shows that the keys
are there, as does --list-public-keys Dallam. I am at the point of
being losted with this now, and am hoping that someone on this list
uses SuSE and might enlighten me as to what the problem is and how I
go about resolving it. Would it make a difference that I only used
one name (Dallam) insted of both names for the userid? Also, after I
generated the keys was there something else that I was supposed to
do perhaps (other than to create a revocation certificate) that I
might have missed? Anyway, I am hoping that someone will be able to
help me with this before I pull to much more hair out :) 
Thanks.
Dallam

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What's the '*' symbol in thread tree?

2002-01-06 Thread Charles Jie

I found the star in ACS display of thread tree but I can not find
explanation in manual. What does it mean?

Something...
|
+-*

charlie



Re: What's the '*' symbol in thread tree?

2002-01-06 Thread Will Yardley

Charles Jie wrote:

 I found the star in ACS display of thread tree but I can not find
 explanation in manual. What does it mean?

it means that mutt is _guessing_ that the threads are related because of
the subject line, and not because of 'In-Reply-To' headers and such.

you can turn off this behaviour by setting strict_threads in your
.muttrc.

w




Re: utf-8 display problem index vs. pager

2002-01-06 Thread MuttER

On Tue, Dec 18, 2001 at 08:30:05PM +0530, Prahlad Vaidyanathan wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 Stephan Seitz spewed into the ether:
 [-- snip --]
  PS: How do you call w3m to display html mails? 
 
 mailcap
 text/html; w3m -T text/html %s
 /mailcap
 
 You could also add a 'copiousoutput' at the end of that, and set
 auto_view text/html in your muttrc to put w3m's output into your pager.
 
 pv.
---end quoted text---

text/html; w3m -dump -T text/html %s; copiousoutput

above works well for me (using auto_view)
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?'s and hide_missing

2002-01-06 Thread Samuel Padgett

Is there any way to get the Mutt-1.3.24i threading behavior back?
It looks like it changed again in Mutt-1.3.25i.  Specifically, I
like seeing the ?'s, but only enough to give me context.  Today,
with hide_missing set, I see something like this

?-?-?-?-?-?-?-Re: foo
`-?-Re: foo

The string of leading ?'s takes up a lot of space and, IMHO,
doesn't convey much useful information.  Instead, I'd like to see

?-Re: foo
`-?-Re: foo

This is more compact, but I can still tell how the two messages
relate to one another.  This used to be the behavior when
hide_missing was unset, correct?  Is this no longer possible?

Thanks!

Sam



failed build

2002-01-06 Thread Will Yardley

i'm giving another go at getting the beta mutt to compile on an outdated
linux machine (for which i don't have root access).

i'm not sure what distribution it is, although i'd guess redhat; kernel
is really old (2.0.36).

i have my own ncurses and libiconv installed in my home directory.

i'm configuring with:
LDFLAGS=-Wl,-R/home/will/lib ./configure  --prefix=/home/will 
--with-libiconv-prefix=/home/will --with-curses=/home/will/

i then get this error:
gcc -DPKGDATADIR=\/home/will/share/mutt\
-DSYSCONFDIR=\/home/will/etc\ -DBINDIR=\/home/will/bin\
-DMUTTLOCALEDIR=\/home/will/share/locale\  -DHAVE_CONFIG_H=1 -I.
-I.  -Iintl  -I/home/will//include -I/home/will/include -I./intl
-I/home/will/include  -Wall -pedantic -g -O2 -c patchlist.c
In file included from protos.h:20,
 from mutt.h:811,
 from patchlist.c:5:
mbyte.h:23: conflicting types for `wcwidth'
/usr/include/wchar.h:209: previous declaration of `wcwidth'
make[2]: *** [patchlist.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/will/mutt-1.3.25'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/will/mutt-1.3.25'
make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2

sepia% uname -srm
Linux 2.0.36 i686

ideas?

w



Re: How to place a request of receipt for an outgoing mail?

2002-01-06 Thread Charles Jie

Hi, Erika,

It looks your postman is specailly friendly to you and you never have to
sign a receipt for a registered snail mail. (Or you just reject them
all. :)

I think such function or mechanism USEFUL because some people, including
me, need it from time to time.

And I believe most of people won't abuse it and annoy others. It could
be thought more positively.

best,
charlie


On Sat, Jan 05, 2002 at 06:28:05PM +0100, Erika Pacholleck wrote:
 [03.01.02 11:30 +0800] Charles Jie -- :
  What I want to get is the RECIPIENT's answering (eg. thru a dialog box),
  not of the system.
 
  The value of this mechanism is that the recipient is automatically
  prompted for a receipt, and I can get noticed as soon as possible when
  he/she is back or available - avoiding many calls in vain.

 How do you want to prompt at the recipients side? You might get from
 my headers my MUA (if I do not forbid to send it) but besides this
 maybe-information you don't know anything, not the system I am running
 nore the layout. Or do you expect every MUA to include a mechanism
 to interupt with prompting? And what, just in case M$ has already
 thought of this, I click it away? Do you expect to stop the whole
 system until the recipient has sent out the receipt?

 If it is that important mail might not be the right choice at all.
 --
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Re: ?'s and hide_missing

2002-01-06 Thread Daniel Eisenbud

On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 09:43:27PM -0500, Samuel Padgett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is there any way to get the Mutt-1.3.24i threading behavior back?
 It looks like it changed again in Mutt-1.3.25i.  Specifically, I
 like seeing the ?'s, but only enough to give me context.  Today,
 with hide_missing set, I see something like this
 
 ?-?-?-?-?-?-?-Re: foo
 `-?-Re: foo
 
 The string of leading ?'s takes up a lot of space and, IMHO,
 doesn't convey much useful information.  Instead, I'd like to see
 
 ?-Re: foo
 `-?-Re: foo
 
 This is more compact, but I can still tell how the two messages
 relate to one another.  This used to be the behavior when
 hide_missing was unset, correct?  Is this no longer possible?

This is currently impossible, because a lot of people didn't want to see
any of the question marks.  I mean to get back to some threading loose
ends in the next few days, so I'll add a $hide_missing_parents option, or
some such.  Should be easy to do.

-Daniel

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New vs. Deleted flags

2002-01-06 Thread Ken Weingold

Is it by design that if you mark a new message for deletion, the
status bar still indicates it as new?  If so, is there any way around
that?

Thanks.


-Ken




Re: New vs. Deleted flags

2002-01-06 Thread Shawn D. McPeek

Previously, Ken Weingold wrote:
% Is it by design that if you mark a new message for deletion, the
% status bar still indicates it as new?  If so, is there any way around
% that?

Well, it sort of is technically new as you haven't read it yet.  The way
around it would be something like this:

macro index d clear-flagNdelete-message delete the current entry

Shawn

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Re: New vs. Deleted flags

2002-01-06 Thread Ken Weingold

On Sun, Jan  6, 2002, Shawn D. McPeek wrote:
 Previously, Ken Weingold wrote:
 % Is it by design that if you mark a new message for deletion, the
 % status bar still indicates it as new?  If so, is there any way around
 % that?
 
 Well, it sort of is technically new as you haven't read it yet.  The way
 around it would be something like this:
 
 macro index d clear-flagNdelete-message delete the current entry

Yeah, that works, but I had to change it slightly to:

macro index d clear-flagNprevious-undeleteddelete-message delete the current 
entry

since I have $resolve set to yes. :)

Thanks, Shawn.


-Ken



Re: sentmail and gpg

2002-01-06 Thread David Clarke

On Mon, 07 Jan 2002, Michael Wagner wrote:
 must I put my pub key-id or my sub key-id in ~/.gnupg/options? I'm
 not working much with gpg, so I don't no it. I make 
 

The either will work, although you will probably get a message about it
changing to the public key if you choose the sub key.  So I'd recommend
choosing the one that starts with pub, which on my system is the first
line.

HTH,
David


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Re: New vs. Deleted flags

2002-01-06 Thread Aaron Schrab

At 02:15 -0500 07 Jan 2002, Ken Weingold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 macro index d clear-flagNprevious-undeleteddelete-message delete the current 
entry

That won't work properly on the last message in a mailbox.

 since I have $resolve set to yes. :)

It would probably be a better idea to have the macro turn off $resolve
at the beginning then turn it back on before doing the actual deletion.

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Re: New vs. Deleted flags

2002-01-06 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park

Alas! Ken Weingold spake thus:
  macro index d clear-flagNdelete-message delete the current entry
...
 macro index d clear-flagNprevious-undeleteddelete-message delete the current 
entry

Wouldn't these set read messages to new if you try to delete a message
that isn't new? ;)

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Re: New vs. Deleted flags

2002-01-06 Thread Ken Weingold

On Mon, Jan  7, 2002, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
  macro index d clear-flagNprevious-undeleteddelete-message delete the 
current entry
 
 Wouldn't these set read messages to new if you try to delete a message
 that isn't new? ;)

No, clear-flagN just seems to clear the 'N' flag if it exists.  If
not, it does nothing, other than preceding to the next message if
$resolve it set to 'yes'.


-Ken



Re: New vs. Deleted flags

2002-01-06 Thread Aaron Schrab

At 00:47 -0700 07 Jan 2002, Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Alas! Ken Weingold spake thus:
  macro index d clear-flagNprevious-undeleteddelete-message delete the 
current entry
 
 Wouldn't these set read messages to new if you try to delete a message
 that isn't new? ;)

No, clear-flag does exactly that, it clears flags.  It should be pretty
easy to check this out, since by default clear-flag is bound to W in the
index.

Now, toggle-new...

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Re: New vs. Deleted flags

2002-01-06 Thread Ken Weingold

On Mon, Jan  7, 2002, Aaron Schrab wrote:
 It would probably be a better idea to have the macro turn off $resolve
 at the beginning then turn it back on before doing the actual deletion.

True.  How do I do this, then?  I have tried to few things, but
nothing seems to work correctly.

Thanks.


-Ken