Re: Problems sending large attachments
On 10-Mar-02 at 11:03, Johannes Franken's inspired musing was thus : Try reducing the mtu-value in /etc/ppp/options . You might also want to put in some hayes commands to turn off hardware data compression, which may be broken on your card. If the problem persists, have a look at http://sdb.suse.com/ The usual MTU for a modem should be 576. Higher values will cause problems. -- |-Simon White # GIMPS current unit progress: 35.94% #-| |-Internet Services Manager # http://www.mersenne.org/prime.htm #-| |-MTDS S.A. 14, rue 16 novembre:-Pd-; tel: +212.3.737.4861-| |-Rabat, Kingdom of Morocco Cyberneckin' fax: +212.3.737.4863-|
Mutt on Mac OS X?
On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Ken Weingold wrote: I have happily used (and still use) Pine under Unix. Since I work with project partners that use MS-Office and other WIN2000 programs, however, I now have to move primarily to a Windows environment. I work alot from home or on the road, live out of range of high-speed Internet, and so need to work offline in store-and-forward mode. Ten years ago I had MKS UUCP with Mailx under DOS 3.3, and this actually worked reasonably well. I am lost without vi/vim. Not what you want to hear, but any chance you could use a Mac? With OS X, you'd be set. And Office v.X is supposed to be great. Some very satisfied colleagues have confirmed this. Looking into it further, I find precompiled ports of vim, pine, lynx, ncftp, and (in theory) procmail -- only in theory, because its ftp directory is empty -- under http://www.osxgnu.org/software/index.html. But no mutt! Does anyone here know more? Tom -- Dr. Thomas Baker[EMAIL PROTECTED] Birlinghoven Library, Fraunhofer-Gesellschaft mobile +49-171-408-5784 Institutszentrum Schloss Birlinghovenwork +49-30-8109-9027 53754 Sankt Augustin, Germany fax +49-2241-14-2619
orange editor
Hi, I happily use Vi for my editing with Mutt, but I have a problem that only exists under mutt, not when I regularly run vi. When I used the commands d/, or c/ and the like (change or delete to a specific character, the display of that specific character became orange. Today I think I did d/. and now my entire vi display, under mutt, is orange, except for the background. Any suggestions or ideas? Thanks, Todd
decoding quoted-printable attachement names?
Hi, Often I receive attachements that carry quoted-printable names like (screenshot follows): -- Mutt: Attachments I 1 no description [text/plain, 8bit, iso-8859-1, 2.9K] A 2 =?iso-8859-1?Q?Pr=E9vision_tr=E9so.xls?=[applica/vnd.ms-exc, base64, 4 A 3 =?iso-8859-1?Q?Pr=E9visions_020304-3_ans[applica/vnd.ms-pow, base64, 1 A 4 =?iso-8859-1?Q?Pr=E9visions_020304-3_ans[applica/vnd.ms-pow, base64, 1 When trying to save them Mutt doesn't try to decode their name and convert them to accented characters. Is there a way to get Prévision_tréso.xls instead of ?iso-8859-1?Q?Pr=E9vision_tr=E9so.xls? as a suggested saved name? Or should I blame the remote MUA for not complying to certain standards? Thanks in advance, -- THESEE: Je te l'ai confié dès l'âge le plus tendre. Mais d'où naissent les pleurs que je te vois répandre ? (Phèdre, J-B Racine, acte 5, scène 6)
set hostname
Hi guys, I'm curious about the set hostname option. It works like a charm, no complains, but I'm wondering how it can work if sendmail doesn't allow to a regular user to set the from line. That is, I run mutt as a regular user and without the set hostname opton, my messages have: From: my_username@my_host_name I don't want my_host_name and use set hostname to replace it with another_host_name. Like I said, it works but how can it work if a regular user can't set the from address? I don't get it. Eugene __ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/
compose edit command
Hy, I just spend the weekend by trying to bind edit in compose menu like the manual told me: 6.4.7 edit e edit the message Since mutt did not stop complaining for: bind compose left edit I asked in my distribution mailing list and there was a guy with the right hint: bind compose left edit-message Nothing serious and any guy reading manuals not character by character should have found out anyway, but me was lacking in that kind of fantasy :(. Since I found no hint in the manual where to post such things I choose this list hoping it will reach the people it concerns. Sorry, for bothering. -- - maik
Re: Mutt won't read inbox
Here's the first few lines of the first message: Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from pop3.ispwest.com [216.52.245.18] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jerry@localhost (single-drop); Sun, 10 Mar 2002 06:12:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns.gbnet.net (unverified [194.70.126.10]) by ispwestemail.aceweb.net (Vircom SMTPRS 1.1.219) with SMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 18:44:18 -0800 Received: (qmail 6133 invoked by uid 610); 9 Mar 2002 02:45:09 - Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 6111 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2002 02:44:59 - Received: from unknown (HELO knute.home) (66.188.232.161) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 9 Mar 2002 02:44:59 - Received: from knute by knute.home with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 16jWts-00016F-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 08 Mar 2002 20:48:00 -0600 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 20:48:00 -0600 From: Knute [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I understand that Mutt reads the From line to organize messages. Why is my From lines so far down in the messages? All of them are the same. Do I need to set some command in fetchmail, or procmail, or sendmail, or Mutt? On Sun, 10 Mar 2002 09:59:24 -0800 Michael Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jerry Van Brimmer wrote: I have sucessfully downloaded my mail using fetchmail/procmail into /home/jerry/muttmail/inbox. When I start up Mutt and tell it to read /home/jerry/muttmail/inbox mutt says /home/jerry/muttmail/inbox is not a mailbox. What's the matter here? Check to see if the first line of the mailbox is something like: From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Mar 10 09:59:16 PST 2002 -- Rev. 1:7 ; Registered Linux User #153217
Re: rfc 2369
Will Yardley wrote: you could even have commands to 'post to this list', 'followup to this list', and perhaps even 'subscribe to list'... probably none of these would be bound by default, but could be interesting. are there any patches which do something like this? I suspect that unless they somehow work with the existing reply and group-reply functions that they won't be widely used. That said, I have concerns about using up extra memory storing this information for something that is not very critical.
Re: Mutt won't read inbox
Here's the way I'm doing things: I'm using fetchmail to fetch the mail which sends it to procmail, which puts it in the mailboxes. At least I htink that's the way it working. My mail dir is: /home/jerry/muttmail/inbox and /home/jerry/muttmail/suse-linux Here is my fetchmail.rc file: __ # Configuration created Sun Mar 10 05:15:59 2002 by fetchmailconf set logfile /home/jerry/mail/fetchmail_log set postmaster jerry set bouncemail set no spambounce set properties poll pop3.ispwest.com with proto POP3 user 'jerryvb' there with password '' is 'jerry' here options stripcr keep mda '/usr/bin/procmail #-d %Y' ___ And here is my procmail.rc file: __ Please check if all the paths in PATH are reachable, remove the ones that # are not. PATH=$HOME/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:. MAILDIR=$HOME/muttmail # You'd better make sure it exists DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/inbox #LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/from #LOCKFILE=$HOME/.lockmail # SuSE-Linux English Mailing List :0 * ^(To:|Cc:|From:|Re:|Reply-To:).*suse-linux-e@suse.(com|de) suse-linux __ Using the above rc files, typing fetchmail in a console downloads my mail into /home/jerry/muttmail/inbox an /home/jerry/muttmailsuse-linux. Now, here is the first message in my inbox file: Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from pop3.ispwest.com [216.52.245.18] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.9.0) for jerry@localhost (single-drop); Sun, 10 Mar 2002 14:21:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns.gbnet.net (unverified [194.70.126.10]) by ispwestemail.aceweb.net (Vircom SMTPRS 1.1.219) with SMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 18:44:18 -0800 Received: (qmail 6133 invoked by uid 610); 9 Mar 2002 02:45:09 - Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 6111 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2002 02:44:59 - Received: from unknown (HELO knute.home) (66.188.232.161) by ns.gbnet.net with SMTP; 9 Mar 2002 02:44:59 - Received: from knute by knute.home with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 16jWts-00016F-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 08 Mar 2002 20:48:00 -0600 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 20:48:00 -0600 From: Knute [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Setting the hostname used in HELO Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail-Followup-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol=application/pgp-signature; boundary=C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, 08 Mar 2002, Charles Cazabon wrote: MuttER [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, it would mask your problem (`man band-aid`). The real solution is to configure your MTA to use an acceptable argument to the HELO command, or to tell it to forward your mail to your ISP's smarthost. This is possible with sendmail or any other MTA. Where do I 'configure my MTA to use an acceptable argument to the HELO COMMAND ?? If you're running qmail, it's set in the control file helohost. If you're running sendmail, I haven't the foggiest idea, but it's probably buried somewhere in that 1000+ line monstrosity known as sendmail.cf. So read the man page for whatever MTA you are using to find out what the name of the config file is, then you can issue the command (in my case for exim): cat /etc/exim/exim.conf |grep helo It will show you the line and what variable you need to be looking for. -- Knute I like greps. Especially the green ones! :) --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8iXfgxxogTq//zBwRAq8GAJ4g4y2KsOOuxvmmMPcWZV/p7L5ysgCeMC/+ jhvfF570mKWHQWBtWwi9eSg= =wvR9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc-- ___ Now, my problem is that when I point Mutt to the inbox file it says that /home/jerry/muttmail/inbox is not a mailbox. What do I have to do or set to either tell Mutt that it IS a mailbox, or is fetchmail/procmail downloading the mail in the wrong format? How do I tell fetchmail/procmail to download it in the right format. I have read the manuals and the man pages and I can't figure it out. Thanks, Jerry
Re: Mutt won't read inbox
On 10-Mar-02 at 14:14, Jerry Van Brimmer's inspired musing was thus : I understand that Mutt reads the From line to organize messages. Why is my From lines so far down in the messages? All of them are the same. Do I need to set some command in fetchmail, or procmail, or sendmail, or Mutt? The first from line mutt is looking for is not the line From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] But a separate From line which has no colon and is used by MUAs as the message separator. If your messages do not have this first, then either Fetchmail or Sendmail is probably to blame. If our users have a corrupted mailbox for whatever reason, this is 99% of the time the error they get. I don't know at what point in the chain you are losing this info, check your regular mail spool on the mail server to see if it has the lines, then check intermediaries to see if they are parsing it out. -- |-Simon White # GIMPS current unit progress: 36.12% #-| |-Internet Services Manager # http://www.mersenne.org/prime.htm #-| |-MTDS S.A. 14, rue 16 novembre:-Pd-; tel: +212.3.737.4861-| |-Rabat, Kingdom of Morocco Cyberneckin' fax: +212.3.737.4863-|
Re: decoding quoted-printable attachement names?
Hi, I've noticed this problem, too. The worse is that mutt refuses to decode such encoded text in Subject/To/From/Cc if there is intervening spaces. (very sticky to the standard and not tolerant) I use procmail to decode such text by myself before reading mail with mutt. But I only finished the work for the header part. If anybody is interested in such recipe, I may hurry up the part about attachment names. best regards, charlie On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 12:18:32PM +0100, Louis-David Mitterrand wrote: Hi, Often I receive attachements that carry quoted-printable names like (screenshot follows): -- Mutt: Attachments I 1 no description [text/plain, 8bit, iso-8859-1, 2.9K] A 2 =?iso-8859-1?Q?Pr=E9vision_tr=E9so.xls?=[applica/vnd.ms-exc, base64, 4 A 3 =?iso-8859-1?Q?Pr=E9visions_020304-3_ans[applica/vnd.ms-pow, base64, 1 A 4 =?iso-8859-1?Q?Pr=E9visions_020304-3_ans[applica/vnd.ms-pow, base64, 1 When trying to save them Mutt doesn't try to decode their name and convert them to accented characters. Is there a way to get Prévision_tréso.xls instead of ?iso-8859-1?Q?Pr=E9vision_tr=E9so.xls? as a suggested saved name? Or should I blame the remote MUA for not complying to certain standards? Thanks in advance,
Re: set hostname
* Sergei Gerasenko ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi guys, I'm curious about the set hostname option. It works like a charm, no complains, but I'm wondering how it can work if sendmail doesn't allow to a regular user to set the from line. That is, I run mutt as a regular user and without the set hostname opton, my messages have: From: my_username@my_host_name I don't want my_host_name and use set hostname to replace it with another_host_name. Like I said, it works but how can it work if a regular user can't set the from address? I don't get it. I believe this is an MTA configuration issue. Check out these links: http://www.sendmail.com/idemo/prod_guide/switch/switchdemo/helplets/en/masquerade_envelope.html http://www.lege.com/sendmail-envelope-revaliases-FAQ.txt It's like aliasing, but for outbound mail. mike
Re: Mutt on Mac OS X?
On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 11:15:28AM +0100, Thomas Baker wrote: On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Ken Weingold wrote: Ten years ago I had MKS UUCP with Mailx under DOS 3.3, and this actually worked reasonably well. I am lost without vi/vim. Not what you want to hear, but any chance you could use a Mac? With OS X, you'd be set. And Office v.X is supposed to be great. Some very satisfied colleagues have confirmed this. Looking into it further, I find precompiled ports of vim, pine, lynx, ncftp, and (in theory) procmail -- only in theory, because its ftp directory is empty -- under http://www.osxgnu.org/software/index.html. But no mutt! Does anyone here know more? Mac OS X folks like myself are fortunate to have Fink (http://fink.sourceforge.net) -- which is a port of the Debian package management tools. I've installed precompiled ports of the apps you listed as well as mutt (oh and procmail /does/ work - it's preinsatlled) and haven't had any problems that weren't directly caused by my newbieness. -- Ryan Singer :: http://feltpresence.com The reason conservatives cohere and radicals fight: everyone agrees about fears, no one about visons.
Re: orange editor
Those commands work fine here. No orange stuff. Maybe try: df. or cf; On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 12:09:48PM +0100, Todd Kokoszka wrote: Hi, I happily use vi as my editor with mutt. However, when I started using commands like d/. or c/; and the +like (changing or deleting a line until a specific character), my vi display under mutt changed. Each +character that I chose became highlighted in orange. Today I chose I think the d/. and now my entire vi +display, except for the background is in orange. Vi outside of mutt is fine -- that's why I'm writing +here. Thanks for any suggestions or ideas. Todd
Re: decoding quoted-printable attachement names?
Louis-David Mitterrand muttered: Hi, Often I receive attachements that carry quoted-printable names When trying to save them Mutt doesn't try to decode their name and convert them to accented characters. Is there a way to get Prévision_tréso.xls instead of ?iso-8859-1?Q?Pr=E9vision_tr=E9so.xls? as a suggested saved name? Or should I blame the remote MUA for not complying to certain standards? Blame the remote MUA, but set rfc2047_parameters. :) See manual section 6.3.186. HTH, Michael -- It's God. No, not Richard Stallman, or Linus Torvalds, but God. (By Matt Welsh) PGP-Key: http://www-stud.ims.uni-stuttgart.de/~tatgeml/public.key
Re: orange editor
* Todd Kokoszka [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 11. 2002 13:16]: Hi, I happily use vi as my editor with mutt. However, when I started using commands like d/. or c/; and the +like (changing or deleting a line until a specific character), my vi display under mutt changed. Each +character that I chose became highlighted in orange. Today I chose I think the d/. and now my entire vi +display, except for the background is in orange. Vi outside of mutt is fine -- that's why I'm writing +here. What'a the editor line in your .muttrc? -- Mads Martin Jørgensen, http://mmj.dk Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic and totally illogic, with just a little bit more effort? -- A. P. J.
Re: decoding quoted-printable attachement names?
On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 02:15:45PM +0100, Michael Tatge wrote: Louis-David Mitterrand muttered: Hi, Often I receive attachements that carry quoted-printable names When trying to save them Mutt doesn't try to decode their name and convert them to accented characters. Is there a way to get Prévision_tréso.xls instead of ?iso-8859-1?Q?Pr=E9vision_tr=E9so.xls? as a suggested saved name? Or should I blame the remote MUA for not complying to certain standards? Blame the remote MUA, but set rfc2047_parameters. :) See manual section 6.3.186. Thanks a lot, my savior! Exactly what I was looking for (but missed). -- PHEDRE: Je t'en ai dit assez. Epargne-moi le reste. Je meurs pour ne point faire un aveu si funeste. (Phèdre, J-B Racine, acte 1, scène 3)
Re: New mail notify with Maildir spools?
Alexander Skwar muttered: However, I've now tweaked the script a little, and it now generates this: =+Daemon_Mails [...] ^^ What is this any way? Use either '+' or '=' but not both. HTH, Michael -- Oh, I've seen copies [of Linux Journal] around the terminal room at The Labs. (By Dennis Ritchie) PGP-Key: http://www-stud.ims.uni-stuttgart.de/~tatgeml/public.key
Re: compose edit command
On Mar 10, Maik Holtkamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just spend the weekend by trying to bind edit in compose menu like the manual told me: 6.4.7 edit e edit the message Since mutt did not stop complaining for: bind compose left edit I asked in my distribution mailing list and there was a guy with the right hint: bind compose left edit-message Nothing serious and any guy reading manuals not character by character should have found out anyway, but me was lacking in that kind of fantasy :(. The typo in the manual is of course a bad thing, and it should be corrected. However, when messing with macros and keybindings it is always a good idea also to check the help screens (with '?'), to get the names of all available functions. In the compose menu the help screen says: e edit-message edit the message Regards, Holger
Re: New to Mutt
Richard -- ...and then Busby, Richard said... % % I have a RH 7.2 box and am interested in using Mutt. I have it installed, Yay! % but I can't seem to get it to do anything - yet.. I have looked at the man Fair enough. % page but that really doesn't seem to help me. Can anyone direct me to a good % new user location? Thanx You've been pointed to manual (under the F1 key) and the mutt.org page, and from there you can probably get what you need. The lack of other places to send you is symptomatic of what some consider a documentation problem and some consider a lack of resources. If you would, please TAKE COPIOUS NOTES of everything that you don't understand or can't figure out as well as wish you had so that, once you know how mutt works and have forgotten what it's like to be a newbie, you can provide input on what needs to be tweaked or where clarification might be needed. There are a couple of create a gentle introduction projects going on and, even if you didn't dive in and start writing for them, your input would be quite valuable. In the meantime, you can also ask questions here :-) HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg25283/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: problem recieving .zip attachment
Nick -- ...and then Nick Wilson said... % % -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- % Hash: SHA1 % % Hi % is there any reason why I'm recieving a zipped file from an Lookout! % user as inline content? Probably because of Outhouse. If it looks that way when it gets to you, it isn't your fault. % % Much thanks HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg25284/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: building question
Ken -- ...and then Ken Weingold said... % % I am getting a new shell account where I am limited 50 megs of space. Yikes :-) % Even though I use my own patched version of mutt, they do have it % installed. What I want to do is use the mutt binary from ~/bin, but Cool; that is helpful. % use the rest of the stuff from the system directories. What is the % best way to do this? I am thinking I guess about compile parameters, % etc. I would run ./configure to point to wherever their stuff is (set prefix to /usr/local or whatever) and mirror their mutt; you can run their mutt with -v to see if they have homespool or dotlock or slang or ncurses defined and so on. Once you get the sucker build, just copy the resultant mutt binary into your personal bin and you're off; it's no different from using their mutt which happens to live in /usr/local/bin or wherever. % % Thanks. HTH HAND P.S. -- Did you get my off-list mail late last week? % % -Ken :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg25285/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: building question
Quoting Ken Weingold [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 10, 2002 18:05]: I am getting a new shell account where I am limited 50 megs of space. Even though I use my own patched version of mutt, they do have it installed. What I want to do is use the mutt binary from ~/bin, but use the rest of the stuff from the system directories. What is the best way to do this? I am thinking I guess about compile parameters, etc. Assuming that the system on which you are building has a decent libc and a libncurses, there should be many exteranl dependencies. On my boxen, I get: $ ldd /usr/local/bin/mutt libncurses.so.5 = /usr/local/lib/libncurses.so.5 (0x4001c000) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4005e000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000) and: $ ldd /usr/local/bin/mutt-1.3.22.1 libsocket.so.1 =/usr/lib/libsocket.so.1 libnsl.so.1 = /usr/lib/libnsl.so.1 libc.so.1 = /usr/lib/libc.so.1 libdl.so.1 =/usr/lib/libdl.so.1 libmp.so.2 =/usr/lib/libmp.so.2 /usr/platform/SUNW,UltraSPARC-IIi-cEngine/lib/libc_psr.so.1 (Linux and Solaris, repsecitvely). It looks like all of the required files are from the system itself (other than mutt itself). So, build mutt with --prefix=/where/yor/isp/has/their/mutt/installed and just copy your resulting binary to ~/bin (don't run make install) so you can piggyback off their installed files. (darren) -- An error on your own is safer than ten truths accepted on faith, because the first leaves you the means to correct it, but the second destroys your capacity to distinguish truth from error. -- Ayn Rand
Re: Mutt on Mac OS X?
I have been using Mutt on OS X. I installed it with Fink package manager. If you use the sendmail that comes with OS X, then procmail is the local mail delivery agent by default. It is already precompiled into it. With any luck you'll see that this is being sent out from a Darwin machine in the headers. So far my only problems with Mutt on Mac OS X have been: (1) Misreading the documentation and failing to add source ~/.mailaliases to the end of my .muttrc to source my aliases files. (2) The failure of the package to automatically compile the urlview binary, thus depriving me of the ability to hit ctrl-B and get a list of urls from a mail message. (3) No idea what I need to do to get the F1..F12 keys working on an iMac Keyboard. On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 11:15:28AM +0100, Thomas Baker wrote: On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Ken Weingold wrote: I have happily used (and still use) Pine under Unix. Since I work with project partners that use MS-Office and other WIN2000 programs, however, I now have to move primarily to a Windows environment. I work alot from home or on the road, live out of range of high-speed Internet, and so need to work offline in store-and-forward mode. Ten years ago I had MKS UUCP with Mailx under DOS 3.3, and this actually worked reasonably well. I am lost without vi/vim. Not what you want to hear, but any chance you could use a Mac? With OS X, you'd be set. And Office v.X is supposed to be great. Some very satisfied colleagues have confirmed this. Looking into it further, I find precompiled ports of vim, pine, lynx, ncftp, and (in theory) procmail -- only in theory, because its ftp directory is empty -- under http://www.osxgnu.org/software/index.html. But no mutt! Does anyone here know more? Tom -- Dr. Thomas Baker[EMAIL PROTECTED] Birlinghoven Library, Fraunhofer-Gesellschaft mobile +49-171-408-5784 Institutszentrum Schloss Birlinghovenwork +49-30-8109-9027 53754 Sankt Augustin, Germany fax +49-2241-14-2619 -- Josh Kuperman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mutt with IMAP
Hello I am having some performance problems with IMAP via MUTT, it seems hungrier for I/O than PINE was. However, I like mutt enough to put up with some slowness, but over a 10mbps network direct to the mailserver I'd expect it to be a bit better. Maybe a better IMAP server would help. I can find IMAP servers (Cyrus, UW, dkimap) but it is difficult to get an objective opinion on which is best, since I have seen them all flamed. Anyone have a reasonable IMAP daemon that they are happy with? I don't know what is running here but it's not been updated for /at least/ two years!!! -- |-Simon White # GIMPS current unit progress: 36.36% #-| |-Internet Services Manager # http://www.mersenne.org/prime.htm #-| |-MTDS S.A. 14, rue 16 novembre:-Pd-; tel: +212.3.737.4861-| |-Rabat, Kingdom of Morocco Cyberneckin' fax: +212.3.737.4863-|
Semi-OT: Mailman and MUAs
This is semi-off-topic, but it somewhat relates to Mutt and Mailman. I'm on another mailing list that was recently switched from Majordomo to Mailman. Many times when users try to reply privately to a poster they end up posting to the list. This causes many complaints about Mailman being a poor piece of software. I (and others on the list using Mutt) have never noticed this bug that the (l)users speak of, since Mutt handles mailing lists VERY well. The complaints come from those using LookOut!, AOL, and other Windoze MUAs. The list administrator says that this is just Mailman's standard behavior and it can't be changed. I'm almost 100% sure that this can be easily changed. So is this a case of users not knowing how to properly configure/use their MTAs, or is it a case of the list administrator not knowing how to properly setup the list? I posted this here since this list runs Mailman and I've heard no comments here about this. There also seems to be a good number of knowledgeable people here. Apologies for the semi-OT post. -- Lorin Winchester [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg25289/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mutt on Mac OS X?
On Mon, Mar 11, 2002, Thomas Baker wrote: Looking into it further, I find precompiled ports of vim, pine, lynx, ncftp, and (in theory) procmail -- only in theory, because its ftp directory is empty -- under http://www.osxgnu.org/software/index.html. But no mutt! Does anyone here know more? Why not just build your own versions of what you want? Go to the Apple web site and download the developer kit. It's a huge file, and includes, amongst other stuff, gcc (called 'cc'). I have built vim, ncftp, and lots of other stuff from source. -Ken
Re: Semi-OT: Mailman and MUAs
On Mar 11, Lorin Winchester [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: This is semi-off-topic, but it somewhat relates to Mutt and Mailman. I'm on another mailing list that was recently switched from Majordomo to Mailman. Many times when users try to reply privately to a poster they end up posting to the list. This causes many complaints about Mailman being a poor piece of software. I (and others on the list using Mutt) have never noticed this bug that the (l)users speak of, since Mutt handles mailing lists VERY well. The More specifically, mutt routes around munging of reply-to and other headers as much as is possible. complaints come from those using LookOut!, AOL, and other Windoze MUAs. The list administrator says that this is just Mailman's standard behavior and it can't be changed. I'm almost 100% sure that this can be easily changed. I don't know if it can be changed or not in mailman. I think all of the mailman lists I'm on do provide a reply-to header. Othat attributes that software has would make it not surprise me if you indeed can't change that. You'd probably find something if you searched the web a little. So is this a case of users not knowing how to properly configure/use their MTAs, or is it a case of the list administrator not knowing how to properly setup the list? I posted this here since this list runs Mailman and I've heard no comments here about this. There also seems to be a good number of knowledgeable people here. These lists are majordomo, not mailman. msg25291/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mutt with IMAP
Le 11/03/02 à 15:54, Simon White écrivit:
Hello
I am having some performance problems with IMAP via MUTT, it seems hungrier
for I/O than PINE was. However, I like mutt enough to put up with some
slowness, but over a 10mbps network direct to the mailserver I'd expect it to
be a bit better.
Maybe a better IMAP server would help. I can find IMAP servers (Cyrus, UW,
dkimap) but it is difficult to get an objective opinion on which is best,
since I have seen them all flamed.
Anyone have a reasonable IMAP daemon that they are happy with? I don't know
what is running here but it's not been updated for /at least/ two years!!!
I'm quite happy with Courier-IMAP. I've recently switched to it from
UW-imapd for my home network. IMAP performance didn't improve, however
(I didn't measure, but I can't feel any subjective improvement). I've
got 100 MBit ethernet, btw.
Reading the ~5000 emails from my mutt-user folder takes approx. 18
seconds. That's really slow, IMNSHO. I think the only thing that would
really help would be to install a *local* IMAP cache of some sort. But I
don't know if such a beast even exists.
Gerhard
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Re: Semi-OT: Mailman and MUAs
On 11-Mar-02 at 11:38, Lorin Winchester's inspired musing was thus : This is semi-off-topic, but it somewhat relates to Mutt and Mailman. I'm on another mailing list that was recently switched from Majordomo to Mailman. Many times when users try to reply privately to a poster they end up posting to the list. This causes many complaints about Mailman being a poor piece of software. I'm almost 100% sure that this can be easily changed. It can be changed. (from mailman docs) reply_goes_to_list (general): Where are replies to list messages directed? Poster is strongly recommended for most mailing lists. This option controls what Mailman does to the Reply-To: header in messages flowing through this mailing list. When set to Poster, no Reply-To: header is added by Mailman, although if one is present in the original message, it is not stripped. Setting this value to either This list or Explicit address causes Mailman to insert a specific Reply-To: header in all messages, overriding the header in the original message if necessary (Explicit address inserts the value of reply_to_address). -- |-Simon White # GIMPS current unit progress: 36.47% #-| |-Internet Services Manager # http://www.mersenne.org/prime.htm #-| |-MTDS S.A. 14, rue 16 novembre:-Pd-; tel: +212.3.737.4861-| |-Rabat, Kingdom of Morocco Cyberneckin' fax: +212.3.737.4863-|
Re: Semi-OT: Mailman and MUAs
Quoting Lorin Winchester [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 11, 2002 11:39]: [-- snip --] So is this a case of users not knowing how to properly configure/use their MTAs, or is it a case of the list administrator not knowing how to properly setup the list? I posted this here since this list runs Mailman and I've heard no comments here about this. There also seems to be a good number of knowledgeable people here. I'd say that it's bad MUAs being mis-configured; you can only do so much about that. I've never seen/heard of this problem, and my first instinct is to chalk it up to user mis-education. Oh, BTW, if this list ran mailman, you'd see a bunch of mailman urls in the header, which I, at least, don't. (darren) -- Freedom is an all-or-nothing proposition: either we are completely free, or we are subjects of a tyrannical system. If we lose one freedom in a thousand, we become completely subjugated.
Re: Semi-OT: Mailman and MUAs
On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 11:38:48AM -0500, Lorin Winchester wrote: to the list. This causes many complaints about Mailman being a poor piece of software. Which it isn't. I (and others on the list using Mutt) have never noticed this bug that the (l)users speak of, since Mutt handles mailing lists VERY well. The complaints come from those using LookOut!, AOL, and other Windoze MUAs. The list administrator says that this is just Mailman's standard behavior and it can't be changed. I'm almost 100% sure that this can be easily changed. So is this a case of users not knowing how to properly configure/use their MTAs, or is it a case of the list administrator not knowing how to properly setup the list? I posted this here since this list runs Mailman and I've heard no comments here about this. There also seems to be a good number of knowledgeable people here. You can configure mailman to add a reply-to: header (to the lists's address), which is not the default. -- Ralf Hildebrandt (Im Auftrag des Referat V A) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Charite Campus Virchow-Klinikum Tel. +49 (0)30-450 570-155 Referat V A - Kommunikationsnetze - Fax. +49 (0)30-450 570-916 Why you can't find your system administrators: ObReason n+x: Your system administrator is walking in circles outside saying TUESDAY? They want it by TUESDAY? TUESDAY? -- Stephan Zielinski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Another Color to new Mail.
Hi brothers :) I'm with a little matter: I work with several folder to store mails in filtering of procmail... When I type c and ? I receive: 1 drwxr-sr-x 31 michel michel 2048 Mar 09 07:33 ../ 2 drwxr-sr-x 2 michel michel 1024 Mar 09 08:45 Linux/ 3 drwxr-sr-x 2 michel michel 1024 Feb 19 02:02 Musica/ 4 drwxrwsr-x 2 michel michel 1024 Mar 09 08:45 Noticias/ 5 drwxr-sr-x 2 michel michel 1024 Mar 09 08:42 Pessoal/ 6 drwxrwsr-x 2 michel michel 1024 Mar 09 08:45 Programacao/ 7 -rw-r--r-- 1 michel michel 2240 Mar 09 07:46 adiadas 8 -rw--- 1 michel michel 59865 Mar 09 06:05 enviadas 9 lrwxrwxrwx 1 michel michel 22 Feb 19 04:51 inbox 10-rw--- 1 michel michel 46191 Mar 09 08:42 lidas Well, I want 2 thing to be changed: 1) Programacao, Linux, Musica, Noticias and Pessoal are folders... Can I change the color of names (to detach when there are boxes with new mail)? 2) Can I filter de screen every time I enter in this screen (to remove name, group, permissions or add new labels)? I thank for all help! -- Michel - Curitiba - PR - Brasil i8u - Debian 2.2 - kernel 2.2.19
Re: Another Color to new Mail.
Quoting Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 11, 2002 12:58]: I'm with a little matter: I work with several folder to store mails in filtering of procmail... When I type c and ? I receive: 1 drwxr-sr-x 31 michel michel 2048 Mar 09 07:33 ../ 2 drwxr-sr-x 2 michel michel 1024 Mar 09 08:45 Linux/ 3 drwxr-sr-x 2 michel michel 1024 Feb 19 02:02 Musica/ 4 drwxrwsr-x 2 michel michel 1024 Mar 09 08:45 Noticias/ 5 drwxr-sr-x 2 michel michel 1024 Mar 09 08:42 Pessoal/ 6 drwxrwsr-x 2 michel michel 1024 Mar 09 08:45 Programacao/ 7 -rw-r--r-- 1 michel michel 2240 Mar 09 07:46 adiadas 8 -rw--- 1 michel michel 59865 Mar 09 06:05 enviadas 9 lrwxrwxrwx 1 michel michel 22 Feb 19 04:51 inbox@ 10-rw--- 1 michel michel 46191 Mar 09 08:42 lidas Well, I want 2 thing to be changed: 1) Programacao, Linux, Musica, Noticias and Pessoal are folders... Can I change the color of names (to detach when there are boxes with new mail)? Don't about colors here, sorry. But... 2) Can I filter de screen every time I enter in this screen (to remove name, group, permissions or add new labels)? Take a look at folder_format: 6.3.49. folder_format Type: string Default: %2C %t %N %F %2l %-8.8u %-8.8g %8s %d %f This variable allows you to customize the file browser display to your personal taste. This string is similar to $index_format, but has its own set of printf()-like sequences: %C current file number %d date/time folder was last modified %f filename %F file permissions %g group name (or numeric gid, if missing) %l number of hard links %N N if folder has new mail, blank otherwise %s size in bytes %t * if the file is tagged, blank otherwise %u owner name (or numeric uid, if missing) %X right justify the rest of the string and pad with character X %|X pad to the end of the line with character X It looks likes your is %C %F %l %u %g %s $d $f, give or take a few format sizes (do :set ?folder_format to see for sure). It sounds like you want to remove the %u, %g, and %F formats. (darren) -- Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction. -- Blaise Pascal
Re: Semi-OT: Mailman and MUAs
On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 10:51:15AM -0600, Jeremy Blosser wrote: These lists are majordomo, not mailman. Oops, I was getting this list confused with yet another list I'm on that switched to Mailman. But I posted to the correct list. :) -- Lorin Winchester [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Semi-OT: Mailman and MUAs
On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 05:31:42PM +, Simon White wrote: It can be changed. snip reference to docs That's what I though. Time to mail the administrator of that list! -- Lorin Winchester [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Semi-OT: Mailman and MUAs
On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 12:34:32PM -0500, darren chamberlain wrote: I'd say that it's bad MUAs being mis-configured; you can only do so much about that. I've never seen/heard of this problem, and my first instinct is to chalk it up to user mis-education. This is also the way that I think. One user (one of the Outlook/AOL bunch) said that it's just too much work to have to manually enter the address of the poster he wishes to reply to directly, so he complains and sends private replies to the list. It's been some time since I've used a MUA other than Mutt, so really don't understand this. Oh, BTW, if this list ran mailman, you'd see a bunch of mailman urls in the header, which I, at least, don't. Confusion on my part. I guess I remembered being able to subscribe to the list from http://www.mutt.org and figured that it was a Mailman interface. -- Lorin Winchester [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Disabling Shell Command function
I'm a sysadmin of a Linux server in which users telnet (or ssh) into shells using rbash so they can only execute progams I want them to execute. As of right now the only E-Mail client I give them access to is Pine because Mutt has a function where you can execute a shell command. If the command is /bin/bash the user is given a regular, unrestricted shell. I'd like to be able to give my users access to Mutt, but not unless that function can be disabled. (Preferrably at compile time. Command line switches and config file options don't really seem secure to me.) Anyone know a way to do this? ~~~ Devin Brown Anthony Macauley Associates (250) 995-3071 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.gx.ca
Re: Semi-OT: Mailman and MUAs
On 11-Mar-02 at 13:15, Lorin Winchester's inspired musing was thus : One user (one of the Outlook/AOL bunch) said that it's just too much work to have to manually enter the address of the poster he wishes to reply to directly, so he complains and sends private replies to the list. It's been some time since I've used a MUA other than Mutt, so really don't understand this. Too much work? Even in Outlook Express, you can copy-paste or do a Reply to All and then delete the list address. Some people are just not with it, never will be. Confusion on my part. I guess I remembered being able to subscribe to the list from http://www.mutt.org and figured that it was a Mailman interface. Didn't you use some other reason just a few minutes ago? ;-) -- |-Simon White # GIMPS current unit progress: 36.54% #-| |-Internet Services Manager # http://www.mersenne.org/prime.htm #-| |-MTDS S.A. 14, rue 16 novembre:-Pd-; tel: +212.3.737.4861-| |-Rabat, Kingdom of Morocco Cyberneckin' fax: +212.3.737.4863-|
Mails not deleted through IMAP
I'm having a little problem when trying to delete mails from an IMAP account. For instance, in a maildir with about 3000 mails if I mark 250 mails as deleted and then get out of mutt (syncing the maildir of course) the next time I login I see that only 10 or 20 of the mail I delete where really deleted, the other remain. As someone noticed such a behaviour in mutt ? --- mutt -v Mutt 1.3.27i (2002-01-22) Copyright (C) 1996-2001 Michael R. Elkins and others. Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'. Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details. System: Linux 2.4.18-pre9 (i686) [using ncurses 5.2] Compile options: -DOMAIN -DEBUG +HOMESPOOL -USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK +DL_STANDALONE +USE_FCNTL -USE_FLOCK +USE_POP +USE_IMAP -USE_GSS +USE_SSL +USE_SASL -HAVE_REGCOMP +USE_GNU_REGEX +HAVE_COLOR +HAVE_START_COLOR +HAVE_TYPEAHEAD +HAVE_BKGDSET +HAVE_CURS_SET +HAVE_META +HAVE_RESIZETERM +HAVE_PGP -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS +SUN_ATTACHMENT +ENABLE_NLS -LOCALES_HACK +COMPRESSED +HAVE_WC_FUNCS +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET +HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR +HAVE_ICONV -ICONV_NONTRANS +HAVE_GETSID +HAVE_GETADDRINFO -ISPELL SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail MAILPATH=Maildir PKGDATADIR=/usr/share/mutt SYSCONFDIR=/etc EXECSHELL=/bin/sh MIXMASTER=mixmaster To contact the developers, please mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. To report a bug, please use the flea(1) utility. vvv.quote patch-1.3.26.devl.narrow_tree.1 patch-1.3.27.rr.compressed.1 patch-1.3.27.cd.edit_threads.9.1 -- Jose Celestino [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systems::SAPO.pt http://www.sapo.pt - Titanic 1912 / Hindenburg Zeppelin 1937 / Microsoft Windows 2000
Re: FCC to a program/pipe?
David G. Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been digging around for a bit trying to figure out the best way to do this: How can I set mutt up to pipe an auto-FCC of my outgoing mail to a program, instead of a file? Mutt already sends every mail you send to a program... The MTA! The variable that sets the program that will be launced is called sendmail and has the default value /usr/sbin/sendmail -oem -oi. You could, however, write your own script, and simply have your script capture the outgoing message, do whatever you want with it, and then ALSO call the real sendmail program, so that your mail still gets delivered. Then you'd set $sendmail to point to your script. After suitable testing, of course. -- David DeSimone | The doctrine of human equality reposes on this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | that there is no man really clever who has not Hewlett-Packard | found that he is stupid. -- Gilbert K. Chesterson Richardson IT|PGP: 5B 47 34 9F 3B 9A B0 0D AB A6 15 F1 BB BE 8C 44
Re: Disabling Shell Command function
Devin, et al -- ...and then Devin Brown said... % % I'm a sysadmin of a Linux server in which users telnet (or ssh) into shells % using rbash so they can only execute progams I want them to execute. As of Interesting. % right now the only E-Mail client I give them access to is Pine because Mutt % has a function where you can execute a shell command. If the command is It sure does. % /bin/bash the user is given a regular, unrestricted shell. I'd like to be % able to give my users access to Mutt, but not unless that function can be Even if you could turn off setting $shell or firing off any program you wish with !, that still doesn't get it; it would be trivial for someone in the know to modify $editor or even $display_filter, perhaps, to whatever s/he wanted and then send or read a message. I'm sure, too, that you wouldn't want to so cripple mutt as to make it unconfigurable; if you did that, you'd have PINE (well, maybe not *that* bad ;-) % disabled. (Preferrably at compile time. Command line switches and config % file options don't really seem secure to me.) Indeed they don't. % % Anyone know a way to do this? All I can suggest is that you restrict access to /bin/bash to some permitted user group (chmod o-a /bin/bash ; chgrp fullshell /bin/bash) and put your few special users (including any mail or cron or such daemons in there) and then kindly set shell=.../rbash for your users. % % % ~~~ % Devin Brown % Anthony Macauley Associates % (250) 995-3071 % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % www.gx.ca HTH HAND I'm quite interested not only in your final results but in other configuration you've done; is it canned or home-grown? :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg25305/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Disabling Shell Command function
Anyone know a way to do this? As has been pointed out, any plan that makes it impossible for a smart user to execute arbitrary programs from within mutt would also cripple mutt. Usually the right way to handle a situation like you describe is with the chroot command. It's a bit of a bother, since you have to create the jail directory and you have to make a copy (or hard link) of libc and various other important stuff. But once you set that all up, it's (supposed to be) impossible to break out of the jail and into the rest of the file system. There should be some tools and more specific instructions out there on the web someplace. Even with your pine solution, i'm willing to bet there are tricks to get a shell -- for example, i remember a config option to get a subshell by pressing Ctrl-Z, and various ways to specify external programs, which can be arbitrary commands. So i'd strongly recommend chroot. -- Mike Schiraldi VeriSign Applied Research msg25306/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Disabling Shell Command function
Also, look into mount's noexec switch, or else users can mail themselves arbitrary binaries and then save them in the jail and run them. -- Mike Schiraldi VeriSign Applied Research msg25307/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Disabling Shell Command function
Devin Brown muttered: I'm a sysadmin of a Linux server in which users telnet (or ssh) into shells using rbash so they can only execute progams I want them to execute. right now the only E-Mail client I give them access to is Pine because Mutt has a function where you can execute a shell command. If the command is /bin/bash the user is given a regular, unrestricted shell. I'd like to be able to give my users access to Mutt, but not unless that function can be disabled. Mutt executes the users shell. So, if the users' shell is rbash mutt will run rbash. The shell to be executed in mutt can be tweaked with $shell. So don't give your users permission to execute any other shells. HTH, Michael -- PGP-Key: http://www-stud.ims.uni-stuttgart.de/~tatgeml/public.key
Re: Another Color to new Mail.
On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 09:22:30AM -0300 Michel wrote: 1 drwxr-sr-x 31 michel michel 2048 Mar 09 07:33 ../ 2 drwxr-sr-x 2 michel michel 1024 Mar 09 08:45 Linux/ 3 drwxr-sr-x 2 michel michel 1024 Feb 19 02:02 Musica/ 4 drwxrwsr-x 2 michel michel 1024 Mar 09 08:45 Noticias/ 5 drwxr-sr-x 2 michel michel 1024 Mar 09 08:42 Pessoal/ 6 drwxrwsr-x 2 michel michel 1024 Mar 09 08:45 Programacao/ 7 -rw-r--r-- 1 michel michel 2240 Mar 09 07:46 adiadas 8 -rw--- 1 michel michel 59865 Mar 09 06:05 enviadas 9 lrwxrwxrwx 1 michel michel 22 Feb 19 04:51 inbox 10-rw--- 1 michel michel 46191 Mar 09 08:42 lidas 2) Can I filter de screen every time I enter in this screen (to remove name, group, permissions or add new labels)? Yes, look at 'folder_format' in the manual. Regards, Rocco -- BOFH excuse #134: because of network lag due to too many people playing deathmatch msg25309/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
OT: netmind and for-pay -- not necessarily?
Hi, all -- Recently someone remarked that mind-it had gone for-pay only. Their web site certainly suggests that, but I just clicked on an old link of mine and was taken to the registration page and apparently completed successfully. It may be that you have to follow a link in order to still register for free. If anyone wants to try it out, surf over to my home page below and register my [actually-empty] bookmarks page or check out my button source code. Now back to our regular program... :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg25310/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: New mail notify with Maildir spools?
»Nicolas Rachinsky« sagte am 2002-03-11 um 01:03:16 +0100 : What does change-folder?tab show? Somebody asked this question Hm, just one directory. Changing to just = gives me all the directories. Well, seems like it fixed my problem. Thanks! Also thanks for, uhm, das Du so lange nachgebohrt hast ;) Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.de | Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iso-top.de - Die günstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 9 days 12 hours 25 minutes
Re: Semi-OT: Mailman and MUAs
»Lorin Winchester« sagte am 2002-03-11 um 11:38:48 -0500 : to the list. This causes many complaints about Mailman being a poor piece of software. Well, setting the header right (ie. Reply-To: list) is hardly Mailmans fault. It's rather the fault of the mailinglist owner for enabling that very useful configuration setting. list administrator says that this is just Mailman's standard behavior and it can't be changed. I'm almost 100% sure that this can be easily changed. You're 100% on track ;) At least judging from the Mailman installations on Sourceforge and on Berlios, I don't think it's standard behaviour. IIRC, it also has a very strong misleading phrase, stating that enabling this option (which is disabled, IIRC) is wrong. Well, as long as those guys write a good/nice/whatever mailinglist software, they can be wrong on one spot ;) MTAs, or is it a case of the list administrator not knowing how to properly setup the list? I posted this here since this list runs Mailman and I've No, it's a case of a list admin setting up the list correctly. Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.de | Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iso-top.de - Die günstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 9 days 12 hours 29 minutes
7 bit and quoted message question
Hello to all, Recently I've noticed that there are some differences when I send a message with pgp signature and without it. The differences are: == pgp signed message: I 1 no description [text/plain, 7bit, us-ascii, 0.2K] == message without pgp signature: I 1 no description [text/plain, quoted, us-ascii, 0.2K] I 2 no description [applica/pgp-signat, 7bit, 0.2K] I don't know why is that when I send a pgp signed message mutt uses a quated message and not a 7bit message. I use mutt-1.3.27, gnupg and gpg.rc (# $Id: gpg.rc,v 1.12 2001/12/11 09:33:57) Some Outlook Express clients see my messages like attachments and I don't know if they are caused by pgp signature. Can anyone tell me if this is normal? Thanks very much, -- Nuno Teixeira pt-quorum.com /* PGP Public Key: http://www.pt-quorum.com/pgp/nunoteixeira.asc Fingerprint: AF91 4AC0 85CB 272A 5441 E02F 5D84 ED9D 34D5 9145 */
Re: Semi-OT: Mailman and MUAs
On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 06:23:22PM +, Simon White wrote: Confusion on my part. I guess I remembered being able to subscribe to the list from http://www.mutt.org and figured that it was a Mailman interface. Didn't you use some other reason just a few minutes ago? ;-) I was referring to two different things, but I've muddled things up a bit it seems. 1) The list that I was referring to used to run Majordomo, but they now run Mailman. I'm on another list on that same server which also switched to Mailman from Majordomo. I was getting those two lists confused. I referred to the other list in one reply. 2) I also mistakenly thought that this list was running Mailman, which was one of the reasons I posted my message here. I referred to the Mutt list in another reply. I hope I don't confuse anyone else. Confusion isn't really that fun. :) -- Lorin Winchester [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg25314/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
7 bit and quoted message question
Hello to all, Recently I've noticed that there are some differences when I send a message with pgp signature and without it. The differences are: == pgp signed message: I 1 no description [text/plain, 7bit, us-ascii, 0.2K] == message without pgp signature: I 1 no description [text/plain, quoted, us-ascii, 0.2K] I 2 no description [applica/pgp-signat, 7bit, 0.2K] I don't know why is that when I send a pgp signed message mutt uses a quated message and not a 7bit message. I use mutt-1.3.27, gnupg and gpg.rc (# $Id: gpg.rc,v 1.12 2001/12/11 09:33:57) Some Outlook Express clients see my messages like attachments and I don't know if they are caused by pgp signature. Can anyone tell me if this is normal? Thanks very much, -- Nuno Teixeira pt-quorum.com /* PGP Public Key: http://www.pt-quorum.com/pgp/nunoteixeira.asc Fingerprint: AF91 4AC0 85CB 272A 5441 E02F 5D84 ED9D 34D5 9145 */
Another Color to new Mail. (Solution)
Hello folks! I'm wondering with this feature :) Darren: I try this and enjoy :) Everybody: see how is my folder before... 1 drwxr-sr-x 31 michel michel 2048 Mar 09 07:33 ../ 2 drwxr-sr-x 2 michel michel 1024 Mar 09 08:45 Linux/ 3 drwxr-sr-x 2 michel michel 1024 Feb 19 02:02 Musica/ 4 drwxrwsr-x 2 michel michel 1024 Mar 09 08:45 Noticias/ 5 drwxr-sr-x 2 michel michel 1024 Mar 09 08:42 Pessoal/ 6 drwxrwsr-x 2 michel michel 1024 Mar 09 08:45 Programacao/ 7 -rw-r--r-- 1 michel michel 2240 Mar 09 07:46 adiadas 8 -rw--- 1 michel michel 59865 Mar 09 06:05 enviadas 9 lrwxrwxrwx 1 michel michel 22 Feb 19 04:51 inbox 10-rw--- 1 michel michel 46191 Mar 09 08:42 lidas ... and after. 1 Mar 09 13:49 2048 ... ../ 2 Mar 09 13:36 1024 Linux/ 3 Feb 19 02:02 1024 ... Musica/ 4 Mar 09 08:45 1024 . Noticias/ 5 Mar 09 09:25 1024 .. Pessoal/ 6 Mar 09 09:27 1024 .. Programacao/ 7 Mar 09 09:36 0 .. adiadas 8 Mar 09 09:40 63924 . enviadas 9 Feb 19 04:51 22 .. inbox 10 Mar 09 08:42 38377 ... lidas Take a look at folder_format: See the message parent for strings... Now I'm using the follow sequence: set folder_format= %\%C %N %t %d %s %. %f %\ (including the spaces, they centralize the page how was print) Now exist a label for new mails (N), I don't tested it but I think it's ok... Only in iten 10 there are a problem, where the date aren't aligned, but nothing else matter... Thanks :) -- Michel - Curitiba/PR - Brasil PS: Sorry about my poor english, it is not my beach :)
Re: Another Color to new Mail. (Solution)
Hello, On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 02:15:57PM -0300 Michel wrote: 9 Feb 19 04:51 22 .. inbox 10 Mar 09 08:42 38377 ... lidas [...] set folder_format= %\%C %N %t %d %s %. %f %\ [...] Only in iten 10 there are a problem, where the date aren't aligned, but nothing else matter... I'm too lazy to look up if the following is defined in the manual: use %2C (or %3C if you have 100 mailboxes) instead to stretch the number. Works in other _formats as well. Regards, Rocco -- BOFH excuse #228: That function is not currently supported, but Bill Gates assures us it will be featured in the next upgrade. msg25317/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
folder_format
Hello again! I test the folder_format with the string: set folder_format= %\%C %N %t %d %\ %s %. %f %\ I like how it fell, but I'm want to correct some mistakes: - The %N and %t string don't work... %N puts on screen a mark for boxes with new mail, %t puts a mark for boxes with tagged mail... How can I make this functions work? - I want to put the %s script in KB format, I try this: %s/1024, but not work... There are a way to do this? - I want to align the number of messages on the left... Can I do this? ex: 8 9 10 11 I think it's all... Thanks for help! (and sorry my poor english :) -- Michel - Curitiba - Brasil Ariman is waiting for you...
Re: Mutt with IMAP
Le 11/03/02 à 17:15, Gerhard Häring écrivit:
Le 11/03/02 à 15:54, Simon White écrivit:
[mutt imap is slow]
[...]
Reading the ~5000 emails from my mutt-user folder takes approx. 18
seconds. That's really slow, IMNSHO. I think the only thing that would
really help would be to install a *local* IMAP cache of some sort. But I
don't know if such a beast even exists.
Apparently, such a best doesn't exist and it wouldn't solve our problem,
either. If I run mutt from my imap server machine, it's equally slow.
Mozilla seems to be faster, though. Apparently it caches the overview
data on disk. kmail seems to also cache overview data, but its lost
after restart.
Gerhard
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Re: Is mutt really handicapped? - vim :split
* Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020307 21:28]: On 07/03/02 Heiko Heil did speaketh: I use the splitting-feature of vim (:help sp). How do you use it to read mail in a folder though? Do you open the mbox file? $ vim ~/Mail/michael.soulier :split See? ;-) Sven -- Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- VINE author: Ron Aaron [EMAIL PROTECTED] VINE Vim Integrated News and Email www.mossbayeng.com/~ron/vim/vine.html VINE is a set of perl and vim scripts which run with the editor 'vim', and make it possible to do all ones' email, USENET news, and calendaring.
another build question
Thanks for all the feedback about the building. I will try out what was suggested. One issue though: iconv. I don't want to use up my disk quota installing libiconv into my homedir. I don't see it anywhere on the system, but see an iconv binary in /usr/local/emul/linux/usr/bin/iconv/usr/local/emul/linux/usr/bin/iconv . This is a NetBSD system. mutt -v on their system gives: System: NetBSD 1.5.2 (i386) [using ncurses 5.2] Compile options: DOMAIN=panix.com +DEBUG -HOMESPOOL -USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK -DL_STANDALONE -USE_FCNTL -USE_FLOCK -USE_POP +USE_IMAP -USE_GSS -USE_SSL -USE_SASL +HAVE_REGCOMP -USE_GNU_REGEX +HAVE_COLOR +HAVE_START_COLOR +HAVE_TYPEAHEAD +HAVE_BKGDSET +HAVE_CURS_SET +HAVE_META +HAVE_RESIZETERM +HAVE_PGP +BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS -SUN_ATTACHMENT +ENABLE_NLS -LOCALES_HACK -HAVE_WC_FUNCS -HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET ++HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR +HAVE_ICONV -ICONV_NONTRANS +HAVE_GETSID -HAVE_GETADDRINFO ISPELL=/usr/local/bin/ispell SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail MAILPATH=/var/mail PKGDATADIR=/pkg/mutt-1.3.25/share/mutt SYSCONFDIR=/pkg/mutt-1.3.25/libdata/mutt-1.3.25 EXECSHELL=/bin/sh -MIXMASTER So any idea how they got iconv? I can't figure anything out. I tried --without-iconv , but compile still craps out saying it can't find iconv. Thanks. -Ken
Re: New to Mutt - Sven's Setup Page
* Busby, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020309 12:23]: I have a RH 7.2 box and am interested in using Mutt. I have it installed, but I can't seem to get it to do anything - yet.. I have looked at the man page but that really doesn't seem to help me. Can anyone direct me to a good new user location? http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mutt/setup.html feedback welcome! :-) Sven -- Sven [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mutt-versions] Latest versions: MUTT http://www.mutt.org/ news:comp.mail.mutt mutt-1.2.5 [000729] MUTT http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mutt/ mutt-1.3.27 [020122] MUTT MUTT - *the* mailer for UNIX with color, threading, IMAP+MIME+PGP+POP
