Re: Mutt newbie and iSpell.

2002-04-16 Thread Brian Durant

On Monday 15 April 2002 22:41, Rocco Rutte wrote:
- Hmm, try replacing \n by enter:
-
- macro compose i :set ispell=...enter ...

Same old thing - a rapidly blinking cursor and what appears to be a freeze of 
all Mutt functions.

Cheers,

Brian



Re: Is pgp_strict_enc working

2002-04-16 Thread Patrik Modesto

On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 11:50:09PM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote:
 Hi,
 
 * Patrik Modesto [04/15/02 20:28:12 CEST] wrote:
  On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 03:40:03PM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote:
   * Patrik Modesto [04/15/02 13:46:31 CEST] wrote:
I'm having problems with pgp_strict_enc. I want mutt to not encode
message to quoted-printable before pgp sign, so I set pgp_strict_enc to
no in my .muttrc, but mutt still encode it before sign. What's wrong? Me
or mutt? (Of course! Mutt can't be wrong, I know! :-)
   
   Why would someone want this? QP is chosen to ensure that the
   body of a messages is not touched and can be safely
   transported and delivered. Signing unencoded mail may cause
   some MTA on the path to do encoding so that you can't verify
   anything.
 
  Because my emails read users of MUA, that dont understand that =50=65
  messages.
 
 In which character set do you send non-signed mail? Maybe your
 $send_charset overides it?

I have
set send_charset=us-ascii:iso-8859-2:utf8
in my muttrc file. How can send_charset overide pgp_strict_enc?

 
  Anyway. Is the pgp_strict_enc setting working? Not for me.
 
 I just noticed that it does not always work for me.

Thanks.

Patrik



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List-Reply

2002-04-16 Thread Akkana

On aanother thread, Simon White writes:
 I always hit L to reply to lists, and hope that Mutt will reply as
 intended. 

I'm generally very happy with mutt, but one thing I wish it would do,
which apparently pine and several of the Mac mailers can do, is
reply to lists without my having to update my .muttrc to tell it
about every mailing list I might ever subscribe to.  (I sub/unsub
to lots of lists and it's a chore to keep .muttrc up to date.)

Is there a way to tell mutt to just reply to the address in the To
line (or, perhaps, in the To or Cc line) and not to the sender?

99% of the time, that's what I want a list reply to do, and mutt's
so configurable that I figure there must be a way.  I'd love to
take all those lists lines out of my .muttrc and have mutt
just work for all mailing lists.  (I guessed lists * but it
didn't work, L said No mailing lists found.)

Thanks!

...Akkana



Re: List-Reply

2002-04-16 Thread Will Yardley

Akkana wrote:
 On aanother thread, Simon White writes:

  I always hit L to reply to lists, and hope that Mutt will reply as
  intended. 
 
 I'm generally very happy with mutt, but one thing I wish it would do,
 which apparently pine and several of the Mac mailers can do, is reply
 to lists without my having to update my .muttrc to tell it about every
 mailing list I might ever subscribe to.

pine doesn't have this function. even in more recent versions, which
have support for rfc 2369 headers, you can't 'list-reply' or
'list-post'.  you can, of course, group-reply, but you can do this in
mutt too.

 Is there a way to tell mutt to just reply to the address in the To
 line (or, perhaps, in the To or Cc line) and not to the sender?
 
how would mutt pick which?  it's not psychic.

 99% of the time, that's what I want a list reply to do, and mutt's so
 configurable that I figure there must be a way.  I'd love to take all
 those lists lines out of my .muttrc and have mutt just work for
 all mailing lists.  (I guessed lists * but it didn't work, L said
 No mailing lists found.)

how is mutt supposed to know which addresses are mailing lists and which
aren't? if mutt had support for interpreting rfc 2369 style headers, i
suppose it would be possible to make a guess in some cases.

note that you probably want to use 'subscribe' rather than 'lists' for
lists that you're subscribed to.

-- 
Will Yardley
input: william   hq . newdream . net . 




Re: Is pgp_strict_enc working

2002-04-16 Thread Rocco Rutte

Hi,

* Patrik Modesto [04/16/02 08:33:01 CEST] wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 11:50:09PM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote:
  In which character set do you send non-signed mail? Maybe your
  $send_charset overides it?

 I have
 set send_charset=us-ascii:iso-8859-2:utf8
 in my muttrc file. How can send_charset overide pgp_strict_enc?

Oops, my mistake. It must have too late. ;-)

Cheers, Rocco.



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mbox parsing test file

2002-04-16 Thread Volker Kuhlmann

There is this

  Mail client test file v0.5 (55kb): This mbox file triggers some bugs
  and has very long field values to trigger buffer overflows. 

at http://kmail.kde.org/mail-client-QA.gz . Mutt doesn't crash, but
shows only 18 mails whereas kmail shows 20. I guess that has to do with
different interpretation of From_. Is mutt supposed to behave as it
does?

Volker

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Re: Mutt newbie and iSpell.

2002-04-16 Thread Rocco Rutte

Hi,

* Brian Durant [04/16/02 08:39:12 CEST] wrote:
 On Monday 15 April 2002 22:41, Rocco Rutte wrote:
 - Hmm, try replacing \n by enter:
 -
 - macro compose i :set ispell=...enter ...

 Same old thing - a rapidly blinking cursor and what appears to be a freeze of 
 all Mutt functions.

Hmm, then probably your ispell doesn' behave as expected.
Yours look like wrappers, so maybe they're wrong?

Cheers, Rocco.



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Re: Mutt newbie and iSpell.

2002-04-16 Thread Brian Durant

On Tuesday 16 April 2002 15:11, Rocco Rutte wrote:
- Hmm, then probably your ispell doesn' behave as expected.
- Yours look like wrappers, so maybe they're wrong?

Umm sorry, I don't understand. My iSpell is a standard version that came with 
the SuSE 7.3 Pro distro. Wrappers? What are you referring to? What are 
wrappers? If it has something to do with my messages, I am using KMail until 
I can get this and a couple of other issues with Mutt straightened out.

Cheers,

Brian



Re: Mutt newbie and iSpell.

2002-04-16 Thread Michael Tatge

Rocco Rutte ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered:
 Hi,
 
 * Brian Durant [04/16/02 08:39:12 CEST] wrote:
  On Monday 15 April 2002 22:41, Rocco Rutte wrote:
  - Hmm, try replacing \n by enter:
  -
  - macro compose i :set ispell=...enter ...
 
  Same old thing - a rapidly blinking cursor and what appears to be a freeze of 
  all Mutt functions.
 
 Hmm, then probably your ispell doesn' behave as expected.
 Yours look like wrappers, so maybe they're wrong?

Unlikely. Currently he's only setting vars. enter-commndset ispell=lolenter
should always work!

HTH,

Michael
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Re: mbox parsing test file

2002-04-16 Thread Michael Tatge

Volker Kuhlmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered:
   Mail client test file v0.5 (55kb): This mbox file triggers some bugs
   and has very long field values to trigger buffer overflows. 
 
 at http://kmail.kde.org/mail-client-QA.gz . Mutt doesn't crash, but
 shows only 18 mails whereas kmail shows 20. I guess that has to do with
 different interpretation of From_. Is mutt supposed to behave as it
 does?

Mutt does not see the last two mails:

X-From_: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Fri Jun 16 00:15:22 2000
Subject: Date in 1975

From bla [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Jul 15 20:37:05 2000
X-From_: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Sat Jul 15 20:36:34 2000
Subject: HTML only

Guess it does not recognize the two ^From_ lines because of the special
format. All other ^From_ lines look like this:

From aaa@aaa Mon Jan 01 00:00:00 1997

The other format is obviously the mailer test in this case. See X-From_:
Mutt failed.
Mutt also fails with Dates. If you sort by date/date the order is not
correct.

Michael
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Re: Problems (bugs?) I found with mutt

2002-04-16 Thread Michal 'hramrach' Suchanek

On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 04:09:25PM -0700, Will Yardley wrote:
 Michael Tatge wrote:
  Michal 'hramrach' Suchanek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered:
 
   I found these problems for which I know *no* 100% workaround:
  
   - I'm unable to browse Maildirs reliably. They can contain both messages
 and subfolders but when I enter a maildir the message index is
 displayed automatically
  
  This is perfect behaviour. A Maildir should not have subdirs other then
  cur, new, tmp.
  If you need subdirs, use normal directories.
Why? This is how courier-imap sets things and it causes no problems
except the subfolders arent easily accessible from mutt.
 [...] 
   (should be handled the same way IMAP browsing is described in
   documentation).
   - subfolders in Maildirs arent displayed in browser - start with dot
 (set mask to show .subforder and ignore new|cur|tmp) - suggest
 maildir_mask
  
  IMAP folder may have subdirs. Maildirs not.
Is there anything that fobids it? Mine have and some of them were created
automagically.
 perhaps the OP is confusing courier's 'maildir++' documentation with
 Maildir itself.  courier imapd does actually allow subfolders, and this
 is the default. folders start with a '.' by default.
??? procmail happily sorts into subdirs of ~/Mail which is a maildir. As
I understand Maildirs they contain mail messages in cur, new and tmp.
Other directories arent affected in any way and my be used for more maildirs.
 
 you can put:
 set mask=^\\.
 to show only folders starting with a leading dot.
 
 personally, i've found that the better way to use both courier IMAP and
 local Maildir folders is either to put your actual mail folders in
 ~/Mail/ and then create symlinks from ~/Mail/foo/ to ~/Maildir/.foo/, or
 to do the opposite and link ~/Maildir/.foo/ to ~/Mail/foo/.
Thank you for your suggestions, I have tried both already. As I find
myself typing the folder names directly more often the link solution
seems superior to mask.
 
 courier's strange way of doing things makes sense when the only access
 to the system is via IMAP, but it's a pain to use with local folders.
Yes, it is weird. But if it didnt use the dots it wouldnt be that bad.

-- 
Michal Suchanek
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: List-Reply

2002-04-16 Thread Shawn McMahon

begin  Will Yardley quotation:
 
 how is mutt supposed to know which addresses are mailing lists and which
 aren't?

IMHO, if you hit list-reply and Mutt doesn't recognize a list, it
should assume you know what you're talking about, and pop up the To:
address as a yes/no default.  Then if you say no, it should cycle
through the Cc: addresses until you say yes or q.

Alternately, just do the To:, and ignore the Cc:, because people
shouldn't be Cc:ing lists.  But that may just be me.


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Re: List-Reply

2002-04-16 Thread Mike Schiraldi

  Is there a way to tell mutt to just reply to the address in the To
  line (or, perhaps, in the To or Cc line) and not to the sender?
  
 how would mutt pick which?  it's not psychic.

If a message said:

From: Alice
To: A list

the request is for a command which will initiate a reply to A list but not
Alice.

What's not being suggested is that mutt handle something like:

From: Alice
To: Bob, A list

However, in both cases i'd say you should just group-reply to everyone, and
if the recipient is annoyed at getting two copies of the message, they
should just use the one-line procmail/formmail solution to remove duplicate
messages. And if their OS doesn't support that, it's a great incentive to
upgrade to one which does. :)


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Re: List-Reply

2002-04-16 Thread Mads Martin Jørgensen

* Shawn McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Apr 16. 2002 15:12]:
 Alternately, just do the To:, and ignore the Cc:, because people
 shouldn't be Cc:ing lists.  But that may just be me.

But they do. A LOT.

-- 
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Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic
 and totally illogic, with just a little bit more effort?
-- A. P. J.



Re: Problems (bugs?) I found with mutt

2002-04-16 Thread David T-G

Michal --

...and then Michal 'hramrach' Suchanek said...
% 
% On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 04:09:25PM -0700, Will Yardley wrote:
%  Michael Tatge wrote:
%   Michal 'hramrach' Suchanek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered:
%  
...
%- I'm unable to browse Maildirs reliably. They can contain both messages
%  and subfolders but when I enter a maildir the message index is
...
%   
%   This is perfect behaviour. A Maildir should not have subdirs other then
...
% Why? This is how courier-imap sets things and it causes no problems
% except the subfolders arent easily accessible from mutt.

Just because Courier IMAP does that doesn't mean that Maildirs are
actually permitted to have subfolders therein.


...
%(should be handled the same way IMAP browsing is described in
...
%- subfolders in Maildirs arent displayed in browser - start with dot
...
%   IMAP folder may have subdirs. Maildirs not.
% Is there anything that fobids it? Mine have and some of them were created
% automagically.

Please provide the Maildir spec which states that directories other than
cur, new, and tmp may be present in a Maildir.  I am sure that, given a
proper reference, the developers will fix the code so that Maildirs are
handled with full capabilities as they are designed.  You can count on
mutt to Do It Right.


%  perhaps the OP is confusing courier's 'maildir++' documentation with
...
% ??? procmail happily sorts into subdirs of ~/Mail which is a maildir. As

Sure; procmail will put mail wherever you tell it to.  That also doesn't
mean that Maildirs are permitted to have subfolders therein.


% I understand Maildirs they contain mail messages in cur, new and tmp.
% Other directories arent affected in any way and my be used for more maildirs.

I look forward to a pointer to the spec or an actual copy posted to the
list.


HTH  HAND

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Re: tmp modified. Update encoding?

2002-04-16 Thread David T-G

Hardy --

...and then Hardy Merrill said...
% 
...
%~/.mutt/tmp/mutt-merrill-1234-0 [#1] modified. Update encoding? ([y]/n):
% 
% Am I doing something wrong, or have a forgotten something in the
% config of mutt?

This just came up recently; you can check the archives for the full
discussion.  Is your home dir NFS mounted and are you experience clock
difference problems between machines?


% 
% TIA.

HTH  HAND


% 
% -- 
% Hardy Merrill
% Senior Software Engineer
% Red Hat, Inc.
% [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: forward message

2002-04-16 Thread David T-G

Eduardo --

...and then Eduardo Gargiulo said...
% 
% Hi all.

Hello!


% 
% Which variable should i edit to customize the lines
% 
% - Forwarded message from x xx@xx ---
% .
% - End forwarded message -
% 
% appended when i forward a message? I want to remove the From: header.

If you haven't yet looked through the manual for forward to at least
try to find it, shame on you.

If you have, how could you have missed forward_quote at 6.3.54?


% 
% TIA

HTH  HAND


% 
% -- 
% Eduardo Gargiulo
% ejg(at)ar.homelinux.org


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Re: PGP signature verification

2002-04-16 Thread David T-G

Will --

...and then Will Yardley said...
% 
% perhaps it's time (past time???) to take this discussion off list?

Maybe, but maybe not.  I don't think we've pinned it down to a not-mutt
problem.  Frankly I don't know what the heck is going on.

Personally I hope it doesn't leave mutt-users unless someone (I volunteer)
sets up a temporary mutt-and-gpg-verification-problems@ list to get to
the bottom of it and keep me in the loop.  I certainly want to get it
resolved.


% 
% -- 
% Will Yardley
% input: william  @ hq . newdream . net . 


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Re: forward message

2002-04-16 Thread Michael Tatge

David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered:
 Eduardo --
 % 
 % Which variable should i edit to customize the lines
 % 
 % - Forwarded message from x xx@xx ---
 % .
 % - End forwarded message -
 % 
 % appended when i forward a message? I want to remove the From: header.
 
 If you have, how could you have missed forward_quote at 6.3.54?

$forward_quote toggle whether $indent_string is used or not. It doesn't
effect forward markers.

HTH,

Michael
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Re: PGP signature verification

2002-04-16 Thread Shawn McMahon

begin  David T-G quotation:
 
 Personally I hope it doesn't leave mutt-users unless someone (I volunteer)
 sets up a temporary mutt-and-gpg-verification-problems list to get to
 the bottom of it and keep me in the loop.  I certainly want to get it
 resolved.

When it is resolved, we want it in the archives, too.  Otherwise that
temporary list is gonna need permanent archives.


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Re: IMAP to Exchange

2002-04-16 Thread Johannes Franken

* mutt-users [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-16 00:26 +0200]:
 I manged to configure my mutt to read my mails from the exchange
 server,

via mapi or imap protocol?

 I am running: Debian Linux woddy kernel 2.4.7 with imaptool 0.9-4

$ apt-cache search imaptool
imaptool - A tool for creating client-side image maps

 All folders i have Problems with have subdirectories. In my
 pager they have IMAP + notation.  All with the + down´t work. 

Have you tried both space and enter to select those folders?

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Re: forward message

2002-04-16 Thread Nicolas Rachinsky

* Eduardo Gargiulo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-16 10:26:43 -0300]:
 Which variable should i edit to customize the lines
 
 - Forwarded message from x xx@xx ---
 .
 - End forwarded message -
 
 appended when i forward a message? I want to remove the From: header.

You can't. 

Nicolas



Re: forward message

2002-04-16 Thread David T-G

Michael, et al --

...and then Michael Tatge said...
% 
% David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered:
%  Eduardo --
%  % 
%  % Which variable should i edit to customize the lines
%  % 
%  % - Forwarded message from x xx@xx ---
%  % .
%  % - End forwarded message -
%  % 
%  % appended when i forward a message? I want to remove the From: header.
%  
%  If you have, how could you have missed forward_quote at 6.3.54?
% 
% $forward_quote toggle whether $indent_string is used or not. It doesn't
% effect forward markers.

You're quote right; I stand corrected.  That's what I get for reading too
early.

It's not in a variable, unfortunately:

  [zero] [9:04am] ~/xfer/mutt/mutt-1.3.28  egrep -i 'forwarded message ' *.c
  send.c:  fputs (- Forwarded message from , fp);
  send.c:  fputs (\n- End forwarded message -\n, fp);


% 
% HTH,

My apologies  HAND


% 
% Michael


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Re: PGP signature verification

2002-04-16 Thread Thorsten Haude

Moin,

* David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-04-16 15:30]:
Maybe, but maybe not.  I don't think we've pinned it down to a not-mutt
problem.  Frankly I don't know what the heck is going on.
It's not Fetchmail. I use 5.9.11 now, which seems to be the latest
version, but I cannot verify David's mail.

Personally I hope it doesn't leave mutt-users unless someone (I volunteer)
sets up a temporary mutt-and-gpg-verification-problems@ list to get to
the bottom of it and keep me in the loop.  I certainly want to get it
resolved.
This might be a good idea.

Thorsten
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Re: PGP signature verification

2002-04-16 Thread David T-G

Shawn --

...and then Shawn McMahon said...
% 
% begin  David T-G quotation:
%  
%  Personally I hope it doesn't leave mutt-users unless someone (I volunteer)
%  sets up a temporary mutt-and-gpg-verification-problems@ list to get to
%  the bottom of it and keep me in the loop.  I certainly want to get it
%  resolved.
% 
% When it is resolved, we want it in the archives, too.  Otherwise that
% temporary list is gonna need permanent archives.

I agree that it should stay here.  I agree that the discussion as well as
the end fix are important.  If I'm one of a handful, though, then I at
least don't want it to die before it's solved -- though cutting it down
to a couple of people who want to know why but don't have the time or
expertise to do the digging certainly won't get us much closer.

Were it to be moved off-list, I'd recommend a summary post back to
mutt-users when it's all done.


% 
% 
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Re: PGP signature verification

2002-04-16 Thread Shawn McMahon

begin  Thorsten Haude quotation:
 
 * David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-04-16 15:30]:
 Maybe, but maybe not.  I don't think we've pinned it down to a not-mutt
 problem.  Frankly I don't know what the heck is going on.
 It's not Fetchmail. I use 5.9.11 now, which seems to be the latest
 version, but I cannot verify David's mail.

Well, it's not unusual to have an occasional unverifiable mail, but for
it to be so consistent for you, it almost has to be somewhere in your
MTA path, not your MUA, since nobody else is seeing it with this
frequency.

ALMOST has.  It could be Mutt, but I don't think anybody else is going
to find anything Mutt if they haven't yet.

Try making a copy of your mail spool, and then edit that copy to remove
everything but one of the messages you can't verify, then pump that
message through gpg and see what happens.  If it still doesn't verify,
it's not Mutt.


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Re: PGP signature verification

2002-04-16 Thread Thorsten Haude

Hi,

* David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-04-16 15:30]:
Maybe, but maybe not.  I don't think we've pinned it down to a not-mutt
problem.  Frankly I don't know what the heck is going on.
I couldn't verify *any* of the mails I got from you today.

Thorsten
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Re: PGP signature verification

2002-04-16 Thread David T-G

Shawn, et al --

...and then Shawn McMahon said...
% 
% begin  Thorsten Haude quotation:
%  
%  It's not Fetchmail. I use 5.9.11 now, which seems to be the latest
%  version, but I cannot verify David's mail.
% 
% Well, it's not unusual to have an occasional unverifiable mail, but for
% it to be so consistent for you, it almost has to be somewhere in your
% MTA path, not your MUA, since nobody else is seeing it with this
% frequency.

I don't know that I'd say that.  I cannot verify my own messages in my
own =mutt-users fcc folder.


% 
...
% everything but one of the messages you can't verify, then pump that
% message through gpg and see what happens.  If it still doesn't verify,
% it's not Mutt.

I had previously tried saving the body and the signature of a given
message and found that the signature was valid but not verified.

I tried this method, using my editor to write everything from the last
^From_ line down to the bottom of the folder out to a file, but couldn't
get gpg to do anything with it:

  [zero] [9:39am] ~  cat /tmp/m | gpg --verify
  gpg: no signed data
  gpg: can't hash datafile: file open error
  [zero] [9:39am] ~  gpg --verify /tmp/m
  gpg: no signed data
  gpg: can't hash datafile: file open error
  [zero] [9:39am] ~  gpg --verify  /tmp/m
  gpg: no signed data
  gpg: can't hash datafile: file open error

What did you mean?


% 
% -- 
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% http://www.eiv.com   | 1) There's more than one way to do it
% AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong


TIA  HAND

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Re: forward message

2002-04-16 Thread Simon White

16-Apr-02 at 08:27, David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
 ...and then Eduardo Gargiulo said...
 % 
 % Which variable should i edit to customize the lines
 % 
 % - Forwarded message from x xx@xx ---
 % .
 % - End forwarded message -
 % 
 % appended when i forward a message? I want to remove the From: header.
 
 If you haven't yet looked through the manual for forward to at least
 try to find it, shame on you.
 
 If you have, how could you have missed forward_quote at 6.3.54?

IIRC, the variable forward_quote sets the indent string.

The actual strings Forwarded message from and End forwarded message
cannot be changed, bar changing them in the source and recompiling.

i.e., there is no $forward_attribution

I looked into hacking the source and providing a patch, but as it was not
essential for me, I decided to leave it aside. Especially since I have no
working knowledge of C, so I have to search for code that does the right
thing and screw around with it, and heaven knows whether that will give
the best approach :)

-- 
[Simon White. vim/mutt. [EMAIL PROTECTED] GIMPS:74.84% see www.mersenne.org]
Sometimes we sit and read other people's interpretations of our lyrics and
think, 'Hey, that's pretty good.' If we liked it, we would keep our mouths
shut and just accept the credit as if it was what we meant all along.
  -- John Lennon.



Re: PGP signature verification

2002-04-16 Thread Michael Tatge

David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered:
 Shawn, et al --
 
 ...and then Shawn McMahon said...
 % 
 % Well, it's not unusual to have an occasional unverifiable mail, but for
 % it to be so consistent for you, it almost has to be somewhere in your
 % MTA path, not your MUA, since nobody else is seeing it with this
 % frequency.
 
 I don't know that I'd say that.  I cannot verify my own messages in my
 own =mutt-users fcc folder.
 
 % everything but one of the messages you can't verify, then pump that
 % message through gpg and see what happens.  If it still doesn't verify,
 % it's not Mutt.
 
 I had previously tried saving the body and the signature of a given
 message and found that the signature was valid but not verified.
 
 I tried this method, using my editor to write everything from the last
 ^From_ line down to the bottom of the folder out to a file, but couldn't
 get gpg to do anything with it:
 
   [zero] [9:39am] ~  cat /tmp/m | gpg --verify
   gpg: no signed data
   gpg: can't hash datafile: file open error
   [zero] [9:39am] ~  gpg --verify /tmp/m
   gpg: no signed data
   gpg: can't hash datafile: file open error
   [zero] [9:39am] ~  gpg --verify  /tmp/m
   gpg: no signed data
   gpg: can't hash datafile: file open error

If those are pgp/mine it's sure that gpg can't verify anything.
David I know you use several keyrings. If I uncomment all keyring lines
in my options file I can verify any mail just fine.
Without those lines the gpg output shows that the sigs are verified, but
mutt says they can not be verfied.

HTH,

Michael
-- 
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(By Stephan Zielinski)

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Re: PGP signature verification

2002-04-16 Thread Shawn McMahon

begin  David T-G quotation:
 
 I tried this method, using my editor to write everything from the last
 ^From_ line down to the bottom of the folder out to a file, but couldn't
 get gpg to do anything with it:

Argh.  I forgot PGP/MIME.  That method I said will only work with inline
sigs.

Score one for The Old Way.  Sorry for the brainfart.


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Re: PGP signature verification

2002-04-16 Thread David T-G

Shawn --

...and then Shawn McMahon said...
% 
% begin  David T-G quotation:
%  
%  I tried this method, using my editor to write everything from the last
%  ^From_ line down to the bottom of the folder out to a file, but couldn't
%  get gpg to do anything with it:
% 
% Argh.  I forgot PGP/MIME.  That method I said will only work with inline
% sigs.

A...


% 
% Score one for The Old Way.  Sorry for the brainfart.

*grin* and no problem.  That explains why I was confused, though!


% 
% 
% -- 
% Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support:
% http://www.eiv.com   | 1) There's more than one way to do it
% AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong


:-D
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Re: PGP signature verification

2002-04-16 Thread David T-G

Michael, et al --

...and then Michael Tatge said...
% 
% David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered:
...
%  
%  I don't know that I'd say that.  I cannot verify my own messages in my
%  own =mutt-users fcc folder.
...
%[zero] [9:39am] ~  gpg --verify  /tmp/m
%gpg: no signed data
%gpg: can't hash datafile: file open error
% 
% If those are pgp/mine it's sure that gpg can't verify anything.

Now I get what Shawn was doing.  Thanks.


% David I know you use several keyrings. If I uncomment all keyring lines
% in my options file I can verify any mail just fine.

Interesting...

I have all of my keyring files uncommented and usable in my gpg options
file.  Who wouldn't, though?

I even just now thought of folder-hooks and trying to point mutt to the
right keyring, but that's only for importing.  Besides, this is my own
key.  Phooey.


% Without those lines the gpg output shows that the sigs are verified, but
% mutt says they can not be verfied.

I wonder why gpg can find the key to check the sig at all...  If you
don't have the ring listed, thenn where is gpg finding it?


% 
% HTH,

Thanks  HAND


% 
% Michael
% -- 
% Whip me.  Beat me.  Make me maintain AIX.
% (By Stephan Zielinski)
% 
% PGP-Key: http://www-stud.ims.uni-stuttgart.de/~tatgeml/public.key


:-D
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(work) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: macro problem

2002-04-16 Thread David T-G

Eduardo --

...and then Eduardo Gargiulo said...
% 
% Hi all.

Hello!


% 
% I have the following lines in my muttrc

That usually goes in the system Muttrc file.  Are they in there, too?


% 
% # Show documentation when pressing F1
% macro generic f1 !less /usr/local/doc/mutt/manual.txt\n Show Mutt documentation
% macro index   f1 !less /usr/local/doc/mutt/manual.txt\n Show Mutt documentation
% macro pager   f1 !less /usr/local/doc/mutt/manual.txt\n Show Mutt documentation
% 
% but when i hit F1, the macro don't work and mutt says 'Key is not
% bound'. How can i fix this? 

How very odd.  So it doesn't show up in the help listing under '?', I
presume.

What happens if you paste in ':macro index ...' in a running mutt?  Is it
bound then?


% The macro runs ok from command line.

Your shell command line or the mutt command line?


% 
% -- 
% Eduardo Gargiulo
% ejg(at)ar.homelinux.org


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Re: tmp modified. Update encoding?

2002-04-16 Thread Hardy Merrill

David T-G [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
 Hardy --
 
 ...and then Hardy Merrill said...
 % 
 ...
 %~/.mutt/tmp/mutt-merrill-1234-0 [#1] modified. Update encoding? ([y]/n):
 % 
 % Am I doing something wrong, or have a forgotten something in the
 % config of mutt?
 
 This just came up recently; you can check the archives for the full
 discussion.  Is your home dir NFS mounted and are you experience clock
 difference problems between machines?

Yes, that's right - my home directory is NFS mounted.  I'll check
the archives, but if you have a quick suggestion I'd appreciate
it.

TIA.

-- 
Hardy Merrill
Senior Software Engineer
Red Hat, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: macro problem

2002-04-16 Thread Thorsten Haude

* Eduardo Gargiulo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-04-16 17:20]:
# Show documentation when pressing F1
macro generic f1 !less /usr/local/doc/mutt/manual.txt\n Show Mutt documentation
^
but when i hit F1, the macro don't work and mutt says 'Key is not
^
I use F1 and that works.

Thorsten
-- 
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Re: macro problem

2002-04-16 Thread Eduardo Gargiulo

David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 That usually goes in the system Muttrc file.  Are they in there, too?

i added manually.

 How very odd.  So it doesn't show up in the help listing under '?', I
 presume.

right.

 What happens if you paste in ':macro index ...' in a running mutt?  Is it
 bound then?

no.

 % The macro runs ok from command line.

both.


-- 
Eduardo Gargiulo
ejg(at)ar.homelinux.org



Re: macro problem

2002-04-16 Thread Eduardo Gargiulo

Thorsten Haude [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 * Eduardo Gargiulo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-04-16 17:20]:
 # Show documentation when pressing F1
 macro generic f1 !less /usr/local/doc/mutt/manual.txt\n Show Mutt 
documentation
 ^
 but when i hit F1, the macro don't work and mutt says 'Key is not
 ^
 I use F1 and that works.

I tryied it too, but it didn't work.

-- 
Eduardo Gargiulo
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Re: macro problem

2002-04-16 Thread Nicolas Rachinsky

* Eduardo Gargiulo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-16 12:20:32 -0300]:
 I have the following lines in my muttrc
 
 # Show documentation when pressing F1
 macro generic f1 !less /usr/local/doc/mutt/manual.txt\n Show Mutt documentation
 macro index   f1 !less /usr/local/doc/mutt/manual.txt\n Show Mutt documentation
 macro pager   f1 !less /usr/local/doc/mutt/manual.txt\n Show Mutt documentation
 
 but when i hit F1, the macro don't work and mutt says 'Key is not
 bound'. How can i fix this? 
 The macro runs ok from command line.

Is TERM set correctly?

What type of terminal are you using?

Nicolas



Re: tmp modified. Update encoding?

2002-04-16 Thread David T-G

Hardy --

...and then Hardy Merrill said...
% 
% David T-G [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
%  
...
%  This just came up recently; you can check the archives for the full
%  discussion.  Is your home dir NFS mounted and are you experience clock
%  difference problems between machines?
% 
% Yes, that's right - my home directory is NFS mounted.  I'll check
% the archives, but if you have a quick suggestion I'd appreciate
% it.

Synchronise the times between your workstation and the server.


% 
% TIA.

HTH  HAND


% 
% -- 
% Hardy Merrill
% Senior Software Engineer
% Red Hat, Inc.
% [EMAIL PROTECTED]


:-D
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Re: macro problem

2002-04-16 Thread David T-G

Eduardo --

...and then Eduardo Gargiulo said...
% 
% David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
%  
%  That usually goes in the system Muttrc file.  Are they in there, too?
% 
% i added manually.

OK.  But are they in the system Muttrc file?


% 
%  How very odd.  So it doesn't show up in the help listing under '?', I
%  presume.
% 
% right.

OK.


% 
%  What happens if you paste in ':macro index ...' in a running mutt?  Is it
%  bound then?
% 
% no.

Well, that's certainly a place to start.

What if you start mutt with no muttrc file?  Try

  mutt -F /dev/null

and then try pasting in the macro.  I wonder if there is some silly
interaction between the system Muttrc and your muttrc, though I think it
unlikely.

Let's see if you can define any macros at all.  What if you change the
key from f1 to ,m or some such; does it show up then?


% 
%  % The macro runs ok from command line.
% 
% both.

Just making sure I had a clear understanding.  Thanks.


% 
% -- 
% Eduardo Gargiulo
% ejg(at)ar.homelinux.org


HTH  HAND

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Re: macro problem

2002-04-16 Thread David T-G

Thorsten, et al --

...and then Thorsten Haude said...
% 
% * Eduardo Gargiulo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-04-16 17:20]:
% # Show documentation when pressing F1
% macro generic f1 !less /usr/local/doc/mutt/manual.txt\n Show Mutt 
documentation
% ^
% but when i hit F1, the macro don't work and mutt says 'Key is not
% ^
% I use F1 and that works.

I thought of that but checked my Muttrc and it has f1 (lower case).  Ah,
well :-(


% 
% Thorsten
% -- 
% There's no such thing as a stupid question. Only stupid people.
%   - User Friendly


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Re: Re: Outlook pst import: What file format should I use?: Formail problem

2002-04-16 Thread John P Verel

On 04/15/02, 06:33:32PM +1200, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
  Snip out any two consecutive messages from the file and attach them to a
  reply to the list.  I'm sure someone can come up with a quick hack that
  will [re?]build ^From_ lines for you.
 
 Yes, that hack is very simple:
 
 man formail
 man procmail
 
 Splitting up a single file which contains concatenated emails with no
 From_ line at all could be more of a problem. Try some formail options,
 if none help, use a short script (or your editor) and replace each
 From:  with a From\nFrom: , then run formail.
 
 Volker

When doing the above, formail generates but one ^From_ entry, From_
foo@bar.

I have done the following: Using sed, changed the address format from
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]] (which is the way Outlook left it) to [EMAIL PROTECTED].  I
run the output of this though formail and, no matter what options I try,
it will only generate a From_ entry for the first mail message.  The
rest of the messages are unaffected.

man formail recommends formail -ds old_mailbox new_mailbox.  This
does not work.

Any suggestions
-- 
John P. Verel
Living Proof That Low Tech Beats High Tech!



Re: macro problem

2002-04-16 Thread Eduardo Gargiulo

David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Eduardo --
 
 ...and then Eduardo Gargiulo said...
 % 
 % David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 %  
 %  That usually goes in the system Muttrc file.  Are they in there, too?
 % 
 % i added manually.
 
 OK.  But are they in the system Muttrc file?

yes. Now, i have removed the macros from muttrc, but they are still not
working.

 % 
 %  How very odd.  So it doesn't show up in the help listing under '?', I
 %  presume.
 % 
 % right.
 
 OK.
 
 
 % 
 %  What happens if you paste in ':macro index ...' in a running mutt?  Is it
 %  bound then?
 % 
 % no.
 
 Well, that's certainly a place to start.
 
 What if you start mutt with no muttrc file?  Try
 
   mutt -F /dev/null
 
 and then try pasting in the macro.  I wonder if there is some silly
 interaction between the system Muttrc and your muttrc, though I think it
 unlikely.
 
 Let's see if you can define any macros at all.  What if you change the
 key from f1 to ,m or some such; does it show up then?

ok. With f1 or F1 the macro didn't work, but with ,m yes! I see a
message 'Shell command: less /usr/local/doc/mutt/manual.txt' and when
hit enter, the manual appear.

-- 
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trying to set sort_browser=reverse-unsort ;)

2002-04-16 Thread Rafael C. Gawenda

I don't know why sort_browser=unsorted (as-is) equals
sort_browser=reverse-unsorted (shouldn't it read 'si-sa'?).

The reverse- prefix does nothing here, and the docs doesn't
state that. Moreover, the help scrn at the browser, shows
options o and O, but also doesn't help.

I know, it's not quite logical to reverse-sort something that
isn't previously sorted, but that would give me the exact
mailbox order I would want to use. I'll now investigate how to
do it, as find doesn't sort, and sort doesn't just
reverse-unsort (he! mutt isn't the only one at this).

I had to change from (two prgs):
mailboxes   `find ~/mail -type f|xargs`

to (five prgs):
mailboxes   `find ~/mail -type f|grep -n .|sort -rn|cut -f2 -d:|xargs`

-- 
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Re: mbox parsing test file

2002-04-16 Thread Michael Elkins

Michael Tatge wrote:
 From bla [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Jul 15 20:37:05 2000
 X-From_: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Sat Jul 15 20:36:34 2000
 Subject: HTML only
 
 Guess it does not recognize the two ^From_ lines because of the special
 format. All other ^From_ lines look like this:

Mutt expects the address to be a single token, so if it contains spaces it
should be double quoted.

 Mutt also fails with Dates. If you sort by date/date the order is not
 correct.

Probably because the timezone is missing.  Mutt expects dates of the form:
Tue Apr 16 09:21:34 PDT 2002




Re: Re: Outlook pst import: What about awk?

2002-04-16 Thread Michal 'hramrach' Suchanek

On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 11:53:57AM -0400, John P Verel wrote:
 David,
 
 
 As suggested, here's the first two messages from the file.  The messages
 bodies, which were just plain text, are omitted for confidentiality:
 
 
 From:   Robert F. Hugi [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent:   Tuesday, November 02, 1999 11:20 AM
 To: Verel,John(NXI); [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:[Deleted]
 
 Message here, deleted
 
 
 
 From:   Davis, Christopher [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent:   Wednesday, November 03, 1999 9:21 PM 
 To: Heyen,Keith A.(NXI); Verel,John(NXI)
 Cc: Goldstein,Irving V.; Chazaud, Diana; Taylor, Gabriella
 Subject:  [Deleted] 
 
 Message here, deleted
 
I made mutt read this mail as three-mail folder with awk:
$ awk -f awkscript.awk pst2 output
where pst2 is folder where I saved only the original (unquoted) mail and
output is the rusulting folder. awkscript.awk is attached


-- 
Michal Suchanek
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


{ if ($0 ~ ^From: ) {
# a From: line is eaten
from=$0
start=1
 }else{
#not From:
if (start) {
#but after From:
start=0
if ($0 ~ ^Sent:) {
   # Sent: after From:
   mail=from;
   sub(^.*\\[,,mail);
   sub(\\].*$,,mail);
   wday=substr($2,1,3);
   mon=substr($3,1,3);
   mday=substr($4,1,2);
   year=$5
   hour=substr($6,1,2);
   min=substr($6,4,4);
   if ($7==PM) hour+=12;
   date=  wday   mon   mday   hour : min   year
   print From  mail   date
   print Date:  date
} 
   #doesnt look like a header
   # just print the eaten line
print from
}
   # not even after From:
   # nothing special
print $0
 }
}



search in browser

2002-04-16 Thread Bo Peng

How can I search a string or go to a folder with new emails in file browser?
The / command seems to be working in a different way as that in index.

Thanks.

-- 
Bo Peng
Department of Statistics
Rice University
http://www.stat.rice.edu/~bpeng



Re: PGP signature verification

2002-04-16 Thread Michael Tatge

David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered:
 % David I know you use several keyrings. If I uncomment all keyring lines
 % in my options file I can verify any mail just fine.
 % Without those lines the gpg output shows that the sigs are verified, but
 % mutt says they can not be verified.

 Interesting...

The interesting part is that the gpg output is identical whether mutt
says verified or not. So this IS a mutt issue.

 I wonder why gpg can find the key to check the sig at all...  If you
 don't have the ring listed, then where is gpg finding it?

It fetches it from a keyserver.

HTH,

Michael
-- 
The nice thing about Windows is - It does not just crash, it displays a
dialog box and lets you press 'OK' first.
(Arno Schaefer's .sig)

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Re: macro problem

2002-04-16 Thread David T-G

Eduardo --

...and then Eduardo Gargiulo said...
% 
% David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
%  
%  ...and then Eduardo Gargiulo said...
%  % 
...
%  OK.  But are they in the system Muttrc file?
% 
% yes. Now, i have removed the macros from muttrc, but they are still not
% working.

It was unlikely, but it doesn't really make sense to have them in two
places anyway, so it's a benefit overall.


% 
%  Let's see if you can define any macros at all.  What if you change the
%  key from f1 to ,m or some such; does it show up then?
% 
% ok. With f1 or F1 the macro didn't work, but with ,m yes! I see a
% message 'Shell command: less /usr/local/doc/mutt/manual.txt' and when
% hit enter, the manual appear.

Quite interesting.  And did you define your ,m macro with a \n at the
end, or do we *expect* that you'd have to hit return?

Are you coming through a network connection or are you right on the box
where mutt is running?  What is your $TERM?  Have you checked to see how
it would pass a keypress of f1 outside of mutt?  What if you

  echo ^Vf1 | cat -v

at the command line, where that's a ctrl-v and then your f1 key?  Maybe
you can fake the f1 key with an esc-something macro once you see what
mutt, just like your shell, is getting.


% 
% -- 
% Eduardo Gargiulo
% ejg(at)ar.homelinux.org


HTH  HAND

:-D
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Re: PGP signature verification

2002-04-16 Thread David T-G

Michael, et al --

...and then Michael Tatge said...
% 
% David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered:
%  % David I know you use several keyrings. If I uncomment all keyring lines
%  % in my options file I can verify any mail just fine.
%  % Without those lines the gpg output shows that the sigs are verified, but
%  % mutt says they can not be verified.
% 
%  Interesting...
% 
% The interesting part is that the gpg output is identical whether mutt
% says verified or not. So this IS a mutt issue.

Ahhh...  Yes, indeed.


% 
%  I wonder why gpg can find the key to check the sig at all...  If you
%  don't have the ring listed, then where is gpg finding it?
% 
% It fetches it from a keyserver.

Oh, I get it.  Sorry :-)


% 
% HTH,
% 
% Michael


Thanks!

:-D
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Re: macro problem

2002-04-16 Thread Eduardo Gargiulo

David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 %  Let's see if you can define any macros at all.  What if you change the
 %  key from f1 to ,m or some such; does it show up then?
 % 
 % ok. With f1 or F1 the macro didn't work, but with ,m yes! I see a
 % message 'Shell command: less /usr/local/doc/mutt/manual.txt' and when
 % hit enter, the manual appear.
 
 Quite interesting.  And did you define your ,m macro with a \n at the
 end, or do we *expect* that you'd have to hit return?

i forgot to append \n.

 Are you coming through a network connection or are you right on the box
 where mutt is running?  

i'm not right on the mutt box. I'm connected through ssh using PuTTY
client.

What is your $TERM? 

xterm

 Have you checked to see how it would pass a keypress of f1 outside of mutt?
 What if you
 
   echo ^Vf1 | cat -v

^[[11~  (hmmm)

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Re: PGP signature verification

2002-04-16 Thread Rafael C. Gawenda

* David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-16 08:32 (CEST)]

 While that sounds like a good idea in general, I don't think it's the
 real problem.  I get my mail delivered right here and I couldn't verify
 the sig on this message, Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 ironically enough.

Signed Mon 15 Apr 2002 22:58:13 CEST w DSA key ID 4065A1DA
Verified ok: Thorsten Haude [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Using:

This is fetchmail release 5.3.3+NTLM+SDPS+NLS
gpg (GnuPG) 1.0.1

Updating...

It does check with 1.0.6 also.
Time to upgrade fetchmail I think, as this seems quite old ;)

-- 
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2:348/610@fidonet; GnuPG key: 0x5C4839A5; Registered LiNUX User #93375
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Re: macro problem

2002-04-16 Thread David T-G

Eduardo --

...and then Eduardo Gargiulo said...
% 
% David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
%  
%  Quite interesting.  And did you define your ,m macro with a \n at the
%  end, or do we *expect* that you'd have to hit return?
% 
% i forgot to append \n.

Good enough; we expect it and so we don't worry.


% 
%  Are you coming through a network connection or are you right on the box
%  where mutt is running?  
% 
% i'm not right on the mutt box. I'm connected through ssh using PuTTY
% client.

Ah.  OK.


% 
% What is your $TERM? 
% 
% xterm

That certainly ought to work; it works for me.


% 
%  Have you checked to see how it would pass a keypress of f1 outside of mutt?
%  What if you
%  
%echo ^Vf1 | cat -v
% 
% ^[[11~  (hmmm)

OK...  When I send an F1 from my NT4 box running Putty v0.51 I get

  ^[OP

and the macros work for me...  When I go to the settings for keyboard, I
have Function keys set to send ESC(n~ rather than Linux, Xterm, or
VT400...  How about you?

Just for fun, what if you leave your f1 macro binding but manually
type my key sequence?


% 
% -- 
% Eduardo Gargiulo
% ejg(at)ar.homelinux.org


HTH  HAND

:-D
-- 
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(play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie
(work) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: macro problem

2002-04-16 Thread Eduardo Gargiulo

David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 % 
 %  Have you checked to see how it would pass a keypress of f1 outside of mutt?
 %  What if you
 %  
 %echo ^Vf1 | cat -v
 % 
 % ^[[11~  (hmmm)
 
 OK...  When I send an F1 from my NT4 box running Putty v0.51 I get
 
   ^[OP
 
 and the macros work for me...  When I go to the settings for keyboard, I
 have Function keys set to send ESC(n~ rather than Linux, Xterm, or
 VT400...  How about you?

idem settings, idem PuTTY version but on W2K.

 Just for fun, what if you leave your f1 macro binding but manually
 type my key sequence?

'Key is not bound'

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Re: macro problem

2002-04-16 Thread David T-G

Eduardo --

...and then Eduardo Gargiulo said...
% 
% David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
%  % 
...
%  and the macros work for me...  When I go to the settings for keyboard, I
%  have Function keys set to send ESC(n~ rather than Linux, Xterm, or
%  VT400...  How about you?
% 
% idem settings, idem PuTTY version but on W2K.

That part certainly shouldn't matter.


% 
%  Just for fun, what if you leave your f1 macro binding but manually
%  type my key sequence?
% 
% 'Key is not bound'

My guess is that we've exhausted the terminal side and it has something
to do with the termcap/terminfo on your Linux box.  Unfortunately, we've
also exhausted my capabilities :-)  Now let's hope that one of the term
wizards will step up with some ideas...


% 
% -- 
% Eduardo Gargiulo
% ejg(at)ar.homelinux.org


HAND

:-D
-- 
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(work) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: macro problem

2002-04-16 Thread Nicolas Rachinsky

* Eduardo Gargiulo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-16 14:07:07 -0300]:
 i'm not right on the mutt box. I'm connected through ssh using PuTTY
 client.

My settings are:
function keys and keypad=Xterm R6

  Have you checked to see how it would pass a keypress of f1 outside of mutt?
  What if you
  
echo ^Vf1 | cat -v
 
 ^[[11~  (hmmm)

OP
here

Nicolas



Re: macro problem

2002-04-16 Thread Nicolas Rachinsky

* David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-16 13:42:51 -0500]:
 % 
 %  Just for fun, what if you leave your f1 macro binding but manually
 %  type my key sequence?
 % 
 % 'Key is not bound'
 
 My guess is that we've exhausted the terminal side and it has something
 to do with the termcap/terminfo on your Linux box.  Unfortunately, we've
 also exhausted my capabilities :-)  Now let's hope that one of the term
 wizards will step up with some ideas...

Are you using termcap?

Nicolas



Re: macro problem

2002-04-16 Thread Nicolas Rachinsky

* Michael Tatge [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-16 20:58:08 +0200]:
 Nicolas Rachinsky ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered:
  * Eduardo Gargiulo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-16 14:07:07 -0300]:
   i'm not right on the mutt box. I'm connected through ssh using PuTTY
   client.
  
  My settings are:
  function keys and keypad=Xterm R6
 
 Use VT100+

What's better with VT100+? Everything I needed here seems to work
fine.

Nicolas

PS: using FreeBSD 4.5 with a termcap entry based on xterm-color.



Re: Mutt newbie and iSpell.

2002-04-16 Thread Rocco Rutte

Hi,

* Brian Durant [04/16/02 11:37:37 CEST] wrote:
 On Tuesday 16 April 2002 15:11, Rocco Rutte wrote:
 - Hmm, then probably your ispell doesn' behave as expected.
 - Yours look like wrappers, so maybe they're wrong?

 Umm sorry, I don't understand. My iSpell is a standard version that came with 
 the SuSE 7.3 Pro distro. Wrappers? What are you referring to? What are 
 wrappers?

Ispell is usually called with parameters to specify the
dictionary to use. I guess that the commands you want to use
are simply scripts calling ispell with the correct parameter.

Btw, how do you want to call your spelling checker? The key
'i' is by default bound to ispell and you changed it to
something just setting ispell.

Just to make sure, your problems appear when trying to only
set the ispell variable, right?

Cheers, Rocco.



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Re: Re: Outlook pst import: What about awk?

2002-04-16 Thread John P Verel

Michael,

Thank you very much for your response and awk script.  Much obliged.

I am a complete newbie to awk (although I do have the Dougherty and
Robbins text on sed and awk on hand).  

When I execute awk with the script as you instruct, it creates an output
file that is unchanged from the input file.  I used the fully qualified
path for the awk command, awkscript.awk, input and output files.
However, I'm unable to get it to work.  

I'm running gnu awk 3.1.0, Red Hat 7.2. awk on my machine is a symbolic
link to gawk.

John

On 04/16/02, 05:26:44PM +0200, Michal 'hramrach' Suchanek wrote:
 On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 11:53:57AM -0400, John P Verel wrote:
  David,
  
  
  As suggested, here's the first two messages from the file.  The messages
  bodies, which were just plain text, are omitted for confidentiality:
  
  
  From:   Robert F. Hugi [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Tuesday, November 02, 1999 11:20 AM
  To: Verel,John(NXI); [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:[Deleted]
  
  Message here, deleted
  
  
  
  From:   Davis, Christopher [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Wednesday, November 03, 1999 9:21 PM 
  To: Heyen,Keith A.(NXI); Verel,John(NXI)
  Cc: Goldstein,Irving V.; Chazaud, Diana; Taylor, Gabriella
  Subject:  [Deleted] 
  
  Message here, deleted
  
 I made mutt read this mail as three-mail folder with awk:
 $ awk -f awkscript.awk pst2 output
 where pst2 is folder where I saved only the original (unquoted) mail and
 output is the rusulting folder. awkscript.awk is attached
 
 
 -- 
   Michal Suchanek
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 { if ($0 ~ ^From: ) {
 # a From: line is eaten
   from=$0
   start=1
  }else{
 #not From:
   if (start) {
   #but after From:
   start=0
   if ($0 ~ ^Sent:) {
  # Sent: after From:
  mail=from;
  sub(^.*\\[,,mail);
  sub(\\].*$,,mail);
  wday=substr($2,1,3);
  mon=substr($3,1,3);
  mday=substr($4,1,2);
  year=$5
  hour=substr($6,1,2);
  min=substr($6,4,4);
  if ($7==PM) hour+=12;
  date=  wday   mon   mday   hour : min   year
  print From  mail   date
  print Date:  date
   } 
  #doesnt look like a header
  # just print the eaten line
   print from
   }
  # not even after From:
  # nothing special
   print $0
  }
 }


-- 
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Living Proof That Low Tech Beats High Tech!



Re: Mutt newbie and iSpell.

2002-04-16 Thread Rocco Rutte

Hi,

* Michael Tatge [04/16/02 11:38:00 CEST] wrote:
 Rocco Rutte ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered:
  Hi,
  
  * Brian Durant [04/16/02 08:39:12 CEST] wrote:
   On Monday 15 April 2002 22:41, Rocco Rutte wrote:
   - Hmm, try replacing \n by enter:
   -
   - macro compose i :set ispell=...enter ...
  
   Same old thing - a rapidly blinking cursor and what appears to be a freeze of 
   all Mutt functions.
  
  Hmm, then probably your ispell doesn' behave as expected.
  Yours look like wrappers, so maybe they're wrong?

 Unlikely. Currently he's only setting vars. enter-commndset ispell=lolenter
 should always work!

Right, now I got it. I misinterpreted 'invoke' in his original
mail.

Cheers, Rocco.



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Re: macro problem

2002-04-16 Thread Eduardo Gargiulo

Nicolas Rachinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 * Eduardo Gargiulo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-16 14:07:07 -0300]:
  i'm not right on the mutt box. I'm connected through ssh using PuTTY
  client.
 
 My settings are:
 function keys and keypad=Xterm R6
 
   Have you checked to see how it would pass a keypress of f1 outside of mutt?
   What if you
   
 echo ^Vf1 | cat -v
  
  ^[[11~  (hmmm)
 
 OP
 here

I'd set keypad=Xterm R6 and echo ^Vf1 shows ^[OP == f1 macro is working!!

thanks all!!

-- 
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Re: macro problem

2002-04-16 Thread Thomas E. Dickey

On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, Nicolas Rachinsky wrote:

 * Michael Tatge [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-16 20:58:08 +0200]:
  Nicolas Rachinsky ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered:
   * Eduardo Gargiulo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-16 14:07:07 -0300]:
i'm not right on the mutt box. I'm connected through ssh using PuTTY
client.
  
   My settings are:
   function keys and keypad=Xterm R6
 
  Use VT100+

 What's better with VT100+? Everything I needed here seems to work
 fine.

 Nicolas

 PS: using FreeBSD 4.5 with a termcap entry based on xterm-color.

FreeBSD maintainers (?) insist on using xterm-color, though it does not
closely match XFree86 xterm.  It's an faq...

http://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.faq.html

There is a better termcap file distributed with xterm, btw.

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Re: macro problem

2002-04-16 Thread Nicolas Rachinsky

* Thomas E. Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-16 15:45:37 -0400]:
 On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, Nicolas Rachinsky wrote:
  PS: using FreeBSD 4.5 with a termcap entry based on xterm-color.
 
 FreeBSD maintainers (?) insist on using xterm-color, though it does not
 closely match XFree86 xterm.  It's an faq...
 
 http://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.faq.html
 
 There is a better termcap file distributed with xterm, btw.

I do NOT use xterm, I use putty.

xterm-color seems to work better with putty, either with FreeBSD and
SuSE Linux.

Nicolas



Re: macro problem

2002-04-16 Thread Michael Tatge

Nicolas Rachinsky ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered:
 * Michael Tatge [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-16 20:58:08 +0200]:
  Nicolas Rachinsky ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered:
   * Eduardo Gargiulo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-16 14:07:07 -0300]:
i'm not right on the mutt box. I'm connected through ssh using PuTTY
client.
   
   My settings are:
   function keys and keypad=Xterm R6
  
  Use VT100+
 
 What's better with VT100+? Everything I needed here seems to work
 fine.

Sorry, I mixed that up. I thought you where the one who had problems.
Never change a running system. :)

Michael
-- 
By golly, I'm beginning to think Linux really *is* the best thing since
sliced bread.
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Changing From: headers

2002-04-16 Thread Russell A. Khurshudian

I have two domains registered, domain1.com and domain2.com for instance. I
want to change the From: headers depending on which domain people send me
email to. So if people send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], i want to reply with a
From: header of [EMAIL PROTECTED] I want to do the same thing for
domain2.com, meaning, reply with [EMAIL PROTECTED] if people send mail there.
Is it possible to use hooks to accomplish this? If so, how? Is there an
easier way of going about doing this, otherwise? Thanks for the help.

Note: I'm not subscribed to this list.





Re: macro problem

2002-04-16 Thread Thomas E. Dickey

On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, Nicolas Rachinsky wrote:

 * Thomas E. Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-16 15:45:37 -0400]:
  On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, Nicolas Rachinsky wrote:
   PS: using FreeBSD 4.5 with a termcap entry based on xterm-color.
 
  FreeBSD maintainers (?) insist on using xterm-color, though it does not
  closely match XFree86 xterm.  It's an faq...
 
  http://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.faq.html
 
  There is a better termcap file distributed with xterm, btw.

 I do NOT use xterm, I use putty.

 xterm-color seems to work better with putty, either with FreeBSD and
 SuSE Linux.

better isn't good enough if it's still not correct.  xterm-color is a
generic entry, targeted at people who either don't know what their
terminal can do, or don't care much.

I wrote a putty terminfo some months ago (ncurses 2007, prompted by an
earlier thread). There are about 2 dozen differences between that and
xterm-color.

ymmv.

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Re: Changing From: headers

2002-04-16 Thread David T-G

Russell --

...and then Russell A. Khurshudian said...
% 
% want to change the From: headers depending on which domain people send me
...
% Is it possible to use hooks to accomplish this? If so, how? Is there an
% easier way of going about doing this, otherwise? Thanks for the help.

See $alternates and $reverse_name and the archives.


% 
% Note: I'm not subscribed to this list.

Note: you should be.


HTH  HAND

:-D
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Re: List-Reply

2002-04-16 Thread Volker Kuhlmann

 if the recipient is annoyed at getting two copies of the message, they
 should just use the one-line procmail/formmail solution to remove duplicate
 messages.

How does this delete the personal copy, but not the list copy?

Volker

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Re: List-Reply

2002-04-16 Thread Michael Elkins

Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
 How does this delete the personal copy, but not the list copy?

Both messages will have the same Message-ID field in the header.



content-length: and mutt

2002-04-16 Thread V K

Hi all,

I've just been through some frustration finding out why mutt and kmail
just don't want to cooperate (bug 41008 at bugs.kde.org).

The upshot of that seems to be that Content-Length: is a non-standard
extension, with RFC saying it's deprecated (if not discouraged).
There's a big rant about it at
http://www.netscape.com/eng/mozilla/2.0/relnotes/demo/content-length.html

Emails which have Content-Length: but no ^From  quoting can't be read
by clients which ignore Content-Length:, to which they're entitled to
according to RFC, so it seems.

The maintainer of procmail very recently didn't like Content-Length:
at all either
http://www.rosat.mpe-garching.mpg.de/cgi-bin/w3glimpse2html/procmail/2002-02/msg00019.html?53#mfs

I don't quite follow all the arguments, but can anyone say what mutt's
take on all this is?

Is there any suitable method which does not use content-length: and
doesn't mangle From in bodies?

Also see thread Mutt ignoring 'From ' lines in mailbox ealier this
month.

Thanks,

Volker

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Re: List-Reply

2002-04-16 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park


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Alas! Michael Elkins spake thus:
 Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
  How does this delete the personal copy, but not the list copy?
=20
 Both messages will have the same Message-ID field in the header.

Actually, I think Volker was asking Is it possible to make this delete
the personal copy but not the list copy? -- and the answer, as far as I
know, is no. procmail/formail will delete the second one that it sees,
which is almost always going to be the list copy.

--=20
Rob 'Feztaa' Park
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Now there's three things you can do in a baseball game: you can win
or you can lose or it can rain.
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Re: List-Reply

2002-04-16 Thread Will Yardley

Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
 Michael Elkins wrote:
  Volker Kuhlmann wrote:

   How does this delete the personal copy, but not the list copy?

  Both messages will have the same Message-ID field in the header.
 
 Actually, I think Volker was asking Is it possible to make this
 delete the personal copy but not the list copy? -- and the answer, as
 far as I know, is no. procmail/formail will delete the second one that
 it sees, which is almost always going to be the list copy.

the best way i've found to get around this (assuming the problem is that
your personal copy is filtered differently than the list copy), is to
either filter using 'TO_list@list\.com' (assuming you're using
procmail), or else to create unique addresses per list, and filter
messages sent to that address to a specific folder.

-- 
Will Yardley
input: william   hq . newdream . net . 




Re: Mutt newbie and iSpell.

2002-04-16 Thread Brian Durant

On Wednesday 17 April 2002 01:52, Rocco Rutte wrote:
- Btw, how do you want to call your spelling checker? The key
- 'i' is by default bound to ispell and you changed it to
- something just setting ispell.
-
I just want to distinguish between i which is the default English 
dictionary (as it should be) and I to use the Danish iSpell dictionary that 
is installed on my system.
-
- Just to make sure, your problems appear when trying to only
- set the ispell variable, right?
-
This is correct.

Cheers,

Brian



Re: Organizing mailfolders (strategies and using with mutt)

2002-04-16 Thread David Rock

On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 02:51:56PM +0200, Thorsten Haude wrote:
 Hi,
 
 * Kai Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-04-11 14:32]:
 I am just reorganzing my mail sorting and filtering. I now use a
 structure like that:
 
  Mail/list/mutt-users
  Mail/list/debian-users
  Mail/mail/inbox
  Mail/mail/private
 I have something similar:
 Mail/in
 Mail/ML/Mutt
 Mail/ML/NEdit
 Mail/ML/Debian/user
 Mail/ML/Debian/misc
 etc.

Mutt's default for saving messages seems to revolve around the From
address (e.g. mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] wants to save to ~/Mail/foo). Does
anyone have some good ideas about how to manage their mailboxes? What
happens when you have a thread involving multiple people? If you use the
above example, the thread would be destroyed as you save to different
folders. Is there a way to track a thread across different folders
(maybe by message ids)?

-- 
David Rock
[EMAIL PROTECTED]