Re: Mutt users ml downloadable archives

2002-07-10 Thread Rocco Rutte

Hi,

* David Champion [02-07-10 08:35:17 +0200] wrote:

 http://home.uchicago.edu/~dgc/mutt-users-199919-200207.mbox.bz2

,[ http://home.uchicago.edu/~dgc/mutt-users-199919-200207.mbox.bz2 ]-
| Error
| 
| -
| 
| Error number 0x89A3D02F has occurred.
| 
| --
| 
| $Id: error.html,v 1.2 2000/03/30 00:32:24 dgc Exp $
`-

?

   bye, Rocco



Re: generating .muttrc

2002-07-10 Thread Rocco Rutte

Hi,

* Martin Siegert [02-07-10 08:34:56 +0200] wrote:
 I am planning to replace elm and pine with mutt as the
 university wide default email reader.

Just do:

  $ rm `which elm`
  $ ln -s `which pine` /bin/false

;-)

I wouldn't replace it. I would let the users choose their
MUA.

 This will only be possible, if it is convenient to
 switch to mutt.

It is. There's a system-wide config file. Without a
~/.muttrc it works just fine. All settings you find usefull
just go in there (/etc/Muttrc, or whatever, depending on the
OS).

 Thus, the biggest show-stopper I can find right now that
 mutt does not seem to have an option menu that allows
 users to modify the default settings to their liking.

The problem with an option menu is that mutt has kind of
static and dynamic configuration. Static can be easily done
by just presenting editing fields for variables. But what to
do with the dynamic part (all the hooks, for example)?

 Thus, the question is: has anybody expanded mutt to
 include something like an option menu that can be called
 from within mutt?

Not that I know.

   bye, Rocco



Re: editing '?' help file

2002-07-10 Thread savanna


* Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:
 It isn't a file.  Mutt creates it when you ask for it, that way it
 shows what your current (possibly non-default) key mappings are.

Thanks for your reply Derrick. No file hey... I presume I could remap the '?'  key - 
how would I get a dump of that output into a file? (ex M$ geek question...)

 If your pager is anything like mine, use the '/' command to search
 through the file for interesting words.  It really helps.

Good idea.

 It would require modify mutt's codebase to output the way you want.  I
 don't think you really want to go there ;-).

a, no...

Savanna.

--
 Free as in 'free speech', not 'free beer'.



Re: editing '?' help file

2002-07-10 Thread Cedric Duval

savanna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No file hey... I presume I could remap the '?'  key - how would I get
 a dump of that output into a file? (ex M$ geek question...)

You could for instance 'set pager=vi', then edit the help section to
your tastes and save it to a file, let's say in ~/.mutt_index_help

Then, create a macro:
macro index ? shell-escapeless ~/.mutt_index_help\n

You might want to do this for several menus: generic, index, pager,
compose, etc.

-- 
Cedric



Problem piping *.doc attachment to AbiWord.

2002-07-10 Thread John P Verel

I have antiword set up as my mailcap entry for viewing MSWord docs and
it works great (thanks Sven :).  What I'd also like to do, from time to
time, is pipe a *.doc to AbiWord.  From the attachment menu, I've tried:
| AbiWord and | AbiWord %s and | AbiWord %s   Version one opens AbiWord
without the file.  Versions two and three open AbiWord with an error
message saying, unable to open file %s.  I've used AbiWord successfully
in my mailcap file, using the %s temporary file descriptor, FWIW.

I've looked at pipe_split, pipe_decode and pipe_sep, but none of them
seem on point for what I'm trying to do.  AbiWord documentation sheds
no light on this, that I could find.

Surely this is a brain cramp on my part, but any help appreciated.

Thanks.

John



Re: Problem piping *.doc attachment to AbiWord.

2002-07-10 Thread Mark J. Reed

On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 10:40:16AM -0400, John P Verel wrote:
 I have antiword set up as my mailcap entry for viewing MSWord docs and
 it works great (thanks Sven :).  What I'd also like to do, from time to
 time, is pipe a *.doc to AbiWord.  
The problem is that piping and opening attachments work via different
mechanisms.  Piping uses the UNIX concept of pipes, which is where it
gets its name, and you can't pipe to AbiWord.  While many UNIX commands
are written to operate as a filter - reading from their standard input
instead of from a named file - AbiWord is not.

When you open an attachment, the attachment first gets saved to a
file on disk with some temporary name (like /tmp/foo.doc).  In the
command from your mailcap, %s is then replaced with that filename
before the command is executed.  So what ends up being run is, for example,
this:

abiword /tmp/foo.doc

But when you pipe to a command, the attachment isn't saved first.  Mutt
just runs the command and then sends the data to it on its standard
input.  It's as if you had typed just the command with no arguments:

abiword

and then started typing the contents of the attachment on your keyboard.
If you try to pipe to abiword %s then it just runs that command
literally, and abiword tries to open a file named '%s' and can't find
it.

Like you, I have antiword set up for everyday .doc reading, and fire up
AbiWord when antiword isn't enough.  But I just save the attachment and
then run abiword on it:

s filename
!abiword filename


-- 
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Atlanta, GA 30348  USA   | +1 404 827 4754 
--
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-- Nero Wolfe, Over My Dead Body



Re: Problem piping *.doc attachment to AbiWord.

2002-07-10 Thread John P Verel

On 07/10/02 10:51 -0400, Mark J. Reed wrote:
 Like you, I have antiword set up for everyday .doc reading, and fire up
 AbiWord when antiword isn't enough.  But I just save the attachment and
 then run abiword on it:
 
 s filename
 !abiword filename

Yep, that works fine.  Just looking for a shortcut.  I suppose one could
construct a macro to do the above, right?

John



bouncing w/ mutt-1.3.28i

2002-07-10 Thread Dominik Vogt

Problem:  With said mutt release I can't bounce messages anymore.
(I found another question in the newsgroup w/ 1.3.23, but no
solution to the problem).

Actually, the message *is* bounced, but unlike earlier releases,
it leaves both, the From: and Cc: headers untouched.  So, if I
bounce a mail that was originally sent from sender A to me to a
list B, the mail still looks as if A sent it to me, not A to B.
Of course the spam filters on the mailing list don't like that a
bit and unceremonously reject the bounce mail :P

How do I get bouncing to work again (preferrably without
installing an older mutt version)?

Bye

Dominik ^_^  ^_^

P.S.: Please CC me, I'm not subscribed to the mailing list
(and all my previous attempts to subscribe failed).

 --
Dominik Vogt, mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], phone: 0721/91374-382
Schlund + Partner AG, Erbprinzenstr. 4-12, D-76133 Karlsruhe




Re: Problem piping *.doc attachment to AbiWord.

2002-07-10 Thread Mark J. Reed

On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 11:30:09AM -0400, John P Verel wrote:
  s filename
  !abiword filename
 
 Yep, that works fine.  Just looking for a shortcut.  I suppose one could
 construct a macro to do the above, right?
Sure, something like this should do the trick:

macro attach a s/tmp/foo.doc\r!abiwordSpace/tmp/foo.doc\r

Then just hit a to open an attachment up in Abiword.

-- 
Mark REED| CNN Internet Technology
1 CNN Center Rm SW0831G  | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Atlanta, GA 30348  USA   | +1 404 827 4754 
--
They will only cause the lower classes to move about needlessly.
-- The Duke of Wellington, on early steam railroads.



A few questions

2002-07-10 Thread jennyw

I have a few quick questions ...

1. Is there a way to add an address other than From: or Reply-To: to
aliases?  For example, to: (common with mailin lists), cc:, or, when
there's a Reply-To:, From:?  I did see the old message on saving the
message and then piping it to a script, but I was hoping there might be an
easier way ...

2. Is there a way to mark all messages as read for an entire folder?  Or 
marking all tagged messages as read?  I often do not sort by threads, and 
the only mark read command I could find works only with threads.

3. Is there an IRC channel where mutt is discussed?

Thanks!

Jen



Re: A few questions

2002-07-10 Thread Lars Heiermann

* jennyw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a few quick questions ...
 
 1. Is there a way to add an address other than From: or Reply-To: to
 aliases?  For example, to: (common with mailin lists), cc:, or, when
 there's a Reply-To:, From:?  I did see the old message on saving the
 message and then piping it to a script, but I was hoping there might be an
 easier way ...

You might want to take a look at the little brother's database at
http://www.spinnaker.de/lbdb/. I use it and I'm very happy with it (but
I gather data for my adressbook from some more datasources).

 3. Is there an IRC channel where mutt is discussed?

#mutt on OPN (irc.openprojects.net), but 'discussed' is maybe not
exactly the right word. It's more an idling contest there as far as I
have seen :-).

-- 
Lars 'darmok' Heiermann
LANparty? = ['ju:nien] || http://www.junien.org



Re: bouncing w/ mutt-1.3.28i

2002-07-10 Thread Aaron Schrab

At 17:19 +0200 10 Jul 2002, Dominik Vogt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Problem:  With said mutt release I can't bounce messages anymore.

 Actually, the message *is* bounced, but unlike earlier releases,
 it leaves both, the From: and Cc: headers untouched.  So, if I

That's how it's always worked, at least for as long as I've been using
mutt (since somewhere around 0.42).  Check out the resend-message
command (bound to Esce by default).

But that's not the only problem you're having with spam filters.  One of
the mail servers handling your outgoing mail appears to have gotten
itself blacklisted:

 SPAM:  Start SpamAssassin results --
 SPAM: This mail is probably spam.  The original message has been altered
 SPAM: so you can recognise or block similar unwanted mail in future.
 SPAM: See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details.
 SPAM: 
 SPAM: Content analysis details:   (5 hits, 5 required)
 SPAM: Hit! (2.0 points)  Received via a relay in relays.osirusoft.com
 SPAM:[RBL check: found 148.224.20.195.relays.osirusoft.com., 
type: 127.0.0.4]
 SPAM: Hit! (3.0 points)  DNSBL: sender is Confirmed Spam Source
 SPAM: 
 SPAM:  End of SpamAssassin results -

See http://relays.osirusoft.com/cgi-bin/rbcheck.cgi?addr=195.20.224.148

-- 
Aaron Schrab [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.schrab.com/aaron/
 [Samba] enables open-source fans to stealth their Linux boxes so
 they look like Microsoft servers that somehow miraculously fail
 to suck.   -- Eric S. Raymond



Re: Problem piping *.doc attachment to AbiWord.

2002-07-10 Thread John P Verel

On 07/10/02 11:37 -0400, Mark J. Reed wrote:
 
 macro attach a s/tmp/foo.doc\r!abiwordSpace/tmp/foo.doc\r
 
Almost.  I got this to work:

macro attach a save-entry\cubol~/tmp/foo.doc\n!AbiWord ~/tmp/foo.doc\n

Without ^U, the original name of the attachment was being appended to
foo.doc. The bol is just insurance.  Also, AbiWord is case sensitive.

Your macro has \r in two places.  What the intent there?

Time for lunch.  After lunch, I'll amend the macro to delete the temp
file.

Regards,

John



pattern match variables in muttrc regexp

2002-07-10 Thread Mark

I want to save a copy of each message I send saved into the current 
folder. Didn't think this would work:
folder-hook (.) set record=$1
and it didn't.

I'd also like a second copy saved into a 'sent-mail' folder.

Thanks for the help!

-- 

Mark



Re: Problem piping *.doc attachment to AbiWord.

2002-07-10 Thread Mark J. Reed

On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 12:23:35PM -0400, John P Verel wrote:
 On 07/10/02 11:37 -0400, Mark J. Reed wrote:
  
  macro attach a s/tmp/foo.doc\r!abiwordSpace/tmp/foo.doc\r
  
 Almost.  
Sorry.  My version worked fine on my system.

 I got this to work:

 macro attach a save-entry\cubol~/tmp/foo.doc\n!AbiWord ~/tmp/foo.doc\n
 
 Without ^U, the original name of the attachment was being appended to
 foo.doc. 
Ah, could be.  The attachment I tested it on had no filename in its
Content-Disposition.

 The bol is just insurance.  Also, AbiWord is case sensitive.
Okay.  When I installed AbiWord, it created both 'abiword' and 'AbiWord'
links.

 Your macro has \r in two places.  What the intent there?
Carriage return.  \n works too, since you can hit control-J instead
of Enter, but since the key I actually hit is Enter and it sends
a carriage return, that's what I use in my macros.

 Time for lunch.  After lunch, I'll amend the macro to delete the temp
 file.
Yeah, I almost replied to my own message to add that, but decided it wasn't
worth another message in the thread. :)

-- 
Mark REED| CNN Internet Technology
1 CNN Center Rm SW0831G  | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Atlanta, GA 30348  USA   | +1 404 827 4754 
--
Swap read error.  You lose your mind.



Re: generating .muttrc

2002-07-10 Thread Martin Siegert

On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 09:03:04AM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote:
 Hi,
 
 * Martin Siegert [02-07-10 08:34:56 +0200] wrote:
  I am planning to replace elm and pine with mutt as the
  university wide default email reader.
 
 Just do:
 
   $ rm `which elm`
   $ ln -s `which pine` /bin/false
 
 ;-)
 
 I wouldn't replace it. I would let the users choose their
 MUA.

This is undesirable: pine is a nightmare to maintain (hard-coded paths, etc.)
and, more importantly, a reoccuring security problem. We have to get
rid of elm, because we want to get rid of NFS exported mail spools. 
Thus, we want to switch to pop/imap exclusively.
Without those reasons I wouln't even consider switching to mutt with
all its undesirable consequences (i.e., faculty members complaining
about not being able to use their favorite email reader).

  This will only be possible, if it is convenient to
  switch to mutt.
 
 It is. There's a system-wide config file. Without a
 ~/.muttrc it works just fine. All settings you find usefull
 just go in there (/etc/Muttrc, or whatever, depending on the
 OS).
 
Yes, I know. The problem starts when a user decides that (s)he does
not like the settings I choose in Muttrc.

  Thus, the biggest show-stopper I can find right now that
  mutt does not seem to have an option menu that allows
  users to modify the default settings to their liking.
 
 The problem with an option menu is that mutt has kind of
 static and dynamic configuration. Static can be easily done
 by just presenting editing fields for variables. But what to
 do with the dynamic part (all the hooks, for example)?

Not that important. The options menu should only contain the most
basic settings. The expert can edit ~/.muttrc.

  Thus, the question is: has anybody expanded mutt to
  include something like an option menu that can be called
  from within mutt?
 
 Not that I know.

I am right now considering using something like the muttrc builder
(http://mutt.netliberte.org/) running under lynx. I could bind the
whole thing to some key in mutt. I was hoping that somebody had done
something like that already.
(I guess this is kind of contradictory: using a web browser to configure
a command line email reader that users use because they do not want to
use a web browser for email).

Thanks for the comments.

Cheers,
Martin



Re: bouncing w/ mutt-1.3.28i

2002-07-10 Thread Dominik Vogt

On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 11:19:45AM -0500, Aaron Schrab wrote:
 At 17:19 +0200 10 Jul 2002, Dominik Vogt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Problem:  With said mutt release I can't bounce messages anymore.
 
  Actually, the message *is* bounced, but unlike earlier releases,
  it leaves both, the From: and Cc: headers untouched.  So, if I
^

To: of course

 That's how it's always worked, at least for as long as I've been using
 mutt (since somewhere around 0.42).  Check out the resend-message
 command (bound to Esce by default).

That's what the admin of the mailing list told me.  There must be
a difference since he did not need to approve bounced messages
manually before.

Hrm.  That sounded like a good explanation.  Was there any change
in the bounce function?

One other thing:  the admin mentioned that after bouncing, the
list of Received: headers has gotten too long - another reason
why the mail is rejected.  Can I do something about this in mutt?
Or exim?

 But that's not the only problem you're having with spam filters.  One of
 the mail servers handling your outgoing mail appears to have gotten
 itself blacklisted:

Yes, I'm aware of this problem.  As an employee of the company
hosting these mail servers I'd better not make any comments about
this. :-)

Bye

Dominik ^_^  ^_^

 --
Dominik Vogt, mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], phone: 0721/91374-382
Schlund + Partner AG, Erbprinzenstr. 4-12, D-76133 Karlsruhe



Re: pattern match variables in muttrc regexp

2002-07-10 Thread Rocco Rutte

Hi,

* Mark [02-07-10 20:10:11 +0200] wrote:
 I want to save a copy of each message I send saved into
 the current folder. Didn't think this would work:
 folder-hook   (.) set record=$1
 and it didn't.

What I recently picked up (didn't know it before): One may
use printf()-style sequences in fcc-hook. Example to match
your needs:

  fcc-hook . $path/sent-%B

in your ~/.muttrc. Since this is not documented (or I didn't
find it) I don't know what the letters expand to. I guess
one may use the values from $index_format.

 I'd also like a second copy saved into a 'sent-mail' folder.

That won't work easily. There's a patch (I don't know the
URL right now) so that you can use a script two save the two
messages.

   bye, Rocco



Re: A few questions

2002-07-10 Thread Rocco Rutte

Hi,

* jennyw [02-07-10 20:10:08 +0200] wrote:
 2. Is there a way to mark all messages as read for an
entire folder?  Or marking all tagged messages as read?
I often do not sort by threads, and the only mark read
command I could find works only with threads.

,[ ~/.mutt/setup/macros ]-
| [...]
| ### remove ~N on all mail
| macro index ,n 
|collapse-alltag-pattern~Nentertag-prefixNuntag-pattern~Tentercollapse-all
| Remove ~N flag on all mail
| [...]
`-

I have folder hooks which collapse all threads on entering;
so this macro first of all un-collapses them, tags all
messages with the ~N (New) flag, toggles it on all tagged
ones, untags everything and collapses the threads again.
Done.

I know that the macro sequence could be much shorter, but
hey, nobody gets younger as it's much more readable this
way. ;-)

   bye, Rocco



Re: Problem piping *.doc attachment to AbiWord: Deleting the temp file

2002-07-10 Thread John P Verel

On 07/10/02 12:23 -0400, John P Verel wrote:
 
 Time for lunch.  After lunch, I'll amend the macro to delete the temp
 file.
This seems trivial, but I can't get the macro to do this.  If I do rm -f
foo.doc, I get dumped into my editor.  I also can't figure out how to
a) have AbiWord execute and then b) execute the rm after AbiWord exits.

John



Re: Problem piping *.doc attachment to AbiWord: Deleting the temp file

2002-07-10 Thread John P Verel

On 07/10/02 14:52 -0400, Mark J. Reed wrote:
 Mutt should hang around and do nothing until AbiWord exits, so
 you should be able to just append a !rm -f ~/tmp/foo.doc\n
 to your macro. . .
Arrrggh!  Forgot the !  Finished product looks like this and works
just fine.

macro attach a save-entry\cubol~/tmp/foo.doc\n;!AbiWord ~/tmp/foo.doc\n;!rm -f 
~/tmp/foo.doc\n

John



wrapping lines ?

2002-07-10 Thread W. D. McKinney

Hello,

Being a new mutt user, I need some help. I am trying to get
mutt-1.3.27i-66 to wrap lines auto-magically. I have 
set smart_wrap 

in my rc, but I must need to specify the number of lines ? 
Anyone know the right syntax ? Thanks.

/Dee



Re: wrapping lines ?

2002-07-10 Thread John P Verel

On 07/10/02 11:56 -0800, W. D. McKinney wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Being a new mutt user, I need some help. I am trying to get
 mutt-1.3.27i-66 to wrap lines auto-magically. 

Be sure you've got your editor set up correctly.  I use vim as my
editor.  In my .vimrc, I've got textwidth=72, which makes all come out
right for my sent mail.  Inbound may or may not be satisfactory,
depending on the mailer used to create the mail.  Outlook Express, for
example, does a particularly awful job of not wrapping text.

John




Re: wrapping lines ?

2002-07-10 Thread W. D. McKinney

Thanks John, that did the trick,
really appreciate the response.

/Dee


On (10/07/02 16:08), John P Verel wrote:
 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 16:08:23 -0400
 From: John P Verel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: W. D. McKinney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: wrapping lines ?
 
 On 07/10/02 11:56 -0800, W. D. McKinney wrote:
  Hello,
  
  Being a new mutt user, I need some help. I am trying to get
  mutt-1.3.27i-66 to wrap lines auto-magically. 
 
 Be sure you've got your editor set up correctly.  I use vim as my
 editor.  In my .vimrc, I've got textwidth=72, which makes all come out
 right for my sent mail.  Inbound may or may not be satisfactory,
 depending on the mailer used to create the mail.  Outlook Express, for
 example, does a particularly awful job of not wrapping text.
 
 John



Re: A few questions

2002-07-10 Thread John Iverson

* On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Rocco Rutte wrote:

 ,[ ~/.mutt/setup/macros ]-
 | [...]
 | ### remove ~N on all mail
 | macro index ,n 
collapse-alltag-pattern~Nentertag-prefixNuntag-pattern~Tentercollapse-all
 Remove ~N flag on all mail
 | [...]
 `-

You might want to replace the N above with clear-flagN, so
it turns off the N flags instead of toggling, thus making it work
in the (probably rare) case where it's run in a folder with no
(N)ew messages.

-- 
John



auto-generating .muttrc

2002-07-10 Thread Martin Siegert

On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 09:03:04AM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote:
 Hi,
 
 * Martin Siegert [02-07-10 08:34:56 +0200] wrote:
  I am planning to replace elm and pine with mutt as the
  university wide default email reader.
 
 Just do:
 
   $ rm `which elm`
   $ ln -s `which pine` /bin/false
 
 ;-)
 
 I wouldn't replace it. I would let the users choose their
 MUA.

This is undesirable: pine is a nightmare to maintain (hard-coded paths, etc.)
and, more importantly, a reoccuring security problem. We have to get
rid of elm, because we want to get rid of NFS exported mail spools. 
Thus, we want to switch to pop/imap exclusively.
Without those reasons I wouln't even consider switching to mutt with
all its undesirable consequences (i.e., faculty members complaining
about not being able to use their favorite email reader).

  This will only be possible, if it is convenient to
  switch to mutt.
 
 It is. There's a system-wide config file. Without a
 ~/.muttrc it works just fine. All settings you find usefull
 just go in there (/etc/Muttrc, or whatever, depending on the
 OS).
 
Yes, I know. The problem starts when a user decides that (s)he does
not like the settings I choose in Muttrc.

  Thus, the biggest show-stopper I can find right now that
  mutt does not seem to have an option menu that allows
  users to modify the default settings to their liking.
 
 The problem with an option menu is that mutt has kind of
 static and dynamic configuration. Static can be easily done
 by just presenting editing fields for variables. But what to
 do with the dynamic part (all the hooks, for example)?

Not that important. The options menu should only contain the most
basic settings. The expert can edit ~/.muttrc.

  Thus, the question is: has anybody expanded mutt to
  include something like an option menu that can be called
  from within mutt?
 
 Not that I know.

I am right now considering using something like the muttrc builder
(http://mutt.netliberte.org/) running under lynx. I could bind the
whole thing to some key in mutt. I was hoping that somebody had done
something like that already.
(I guess this is kind of contradictory: using a web browser to configure
a command line email reader that users use because they do not want to
use a web browser for email).

Thanks for the comments.

Cheers,
Martin



Wrong Signature

2002-07-10 Thread Thorsten Haude

Hi,

For quite some time I have a problem veryfying PGP signatures. I get
'Falsche Unterschrift' (wrong signature) messages on these mails
though others seem to be able to verify them.

I get these errors almost only with mails written with Mutt, and I
cannot verify a single mail from certain senders. (In fact, I didn't
read mutt-users for some time and the problem did show up only very
seldom.)

I would like to ask your for help in finding the reason for this
error.

I use GnuPG 1.0.6.

tia,
Thorsten
-- 
Politik kann man in diesem Lande definieren als die Durchsetzung
wirtschaftlicher Zwecke mit Hilfe der Gesetzgebung.
- Kurt Tucholsky



Re: A few questions

2002-07-10 Thread Rocco Rutte

Hi,

* John Iverson [02-07-10 23:48:07 +0200] wrote:
 You might want to replace the N above with
 clear-flagN, so it turns off the N flags instead of
 toggling, thus making it work in the (probably rare) case
 where it's run in a folder with no (N)ew messages.

Hmm, in this case it only toggles the flag on the message
the indicator is on. Anyway, thanks for the tip.

   bye, Rocco



Re: Wrong Signature with GPG - gpg.rc

2002-07-10 Thread Sven Guckes

* Thorsten Haude [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-07-10 21:19]:
 For quite some time I have a problem veryfying PGP signatures.
 I get 'Falsche Unterschrift' (wrong signature) messages on
 these mails though others seem to be able to verify them. [...]
 I use GnuPG 1.0.6.

  :source contrib/gpg.rc

does it help?  feedback, please!

Sven



Forwarding Mail in Mutt with abook

2002-07-10 Thread etaylor

Hi there,

I have ran into a problem recently using a Mutt/abook combination to
deal with mail.

When I query abook through Mutt at the To: header (in writing new
mail), I am allowed to tag multiple addresses like normal and insert
them all with a ;m command.

However, when I try to _forward_ mail to multiple people, the ;m
command simply inserts the addresses into a new message.

I have tried ;f, but it doesn't worked.  I have also searched for an
answer to my problem, but I haven't even found it mentioned somewhere
else.

Thanks for any help.



replying to and quoting an HTML attachment

2002-07-10 Thread Eugene Lee

I looked in the archives and couldn't find a specific answer this one.
I receive several HTML messages that arrive as an attachment with no
plain text equivalent in the main message body or another attachment.
When I reply to these messages, how do I configure Mutt to convert the
HTML attachment into plain text, quote it, and finally edit it?  Or is
this a mailcap issue?  Thanks in advance.


-- 
Eugene Lee
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Forwarding Mail in Mutt with abook

2002-07-10 Thread Gary Johnson

On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 05:07:53PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When I query abook through Mutt at the To: header (in writing new
 mail), I am allowed to tag multiple addresses like normal and insert
 them all with a ;m command.
 
 However, when I try to _forward_ mail to multiple people, the ;m
 command simply inserts the addresses into a new message.
 
 I have tried ;f, but it doesn't worked.  I have also searched for an
 answer to my problem, but I haven't even found it mentioned somewhere
 else.

After tagging the addresses you want in the query menu, type either
;Return or simply Return.  I don't see this in the
documentation, either; I just experimented a little.

Gary

-- 
Gary Johnson   | Agilent Technologies
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   | Spokane, Washington, USA
http://www.spocom.com/users/gjohnson/mutt/ |



Re: replying to and quoting an HTML attachment

2002-07-10 Thread John Iverson

* On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Eugene Lee wrote:

 I looked in the archives and couldn't find a specific answer
 this one.  I receive several HTML messages that arrive as an
 attachment with no plain text equivalent in the main message
 body or another attachment.  When I reply to these messages,
 how do I configure Mutt to convert the HTML attachment into
 plain text, quote it, and finally edit it?  Or is this a
 mailcap issue?  Thanks in advance.

I beleive these are the relevant settings I use:

In .muttrc:

alternative_order text/plain text # Favor plain text in multipart messages
auto_view text/html # View html dumped to text in pager (see .mailcap)

In .mailcap (choose one according to browser):

# text/html; lynx -dump %s; copiousoutput; nametemplate=%s.html
# text/html; links -dump %s; copiousoutput; nametemplate=%s.html
text/html; w3m -dump %s; copiousoutput; nametemplate=%s.html

-- 
John



Re: replying to and quoting an HTML attachment

2002-07-10 Thread Will Yardley

Eugene Lee wrote:

 I looked in the archives and couldn't find a specific answer this one.
 I receive several HTML messages that arrive as an attachment with no
 plain text equivalent in the main message body or another attachment.
 When I reply to these messages, how do I configure Mutt to convert the
 HTML attachment into plain text, quote it, and finally edit it?  Or is
 this a mailcap issue?  Thanks in advance.

did you search on google? a google search for 'mutt-users html mail
mailcap' turns up a lot of responses for me, including many in the
mutt-users archives.

i use:

in ~/.mailcap:

text/html;  w3m -dump %s; nametemplate=%s.html; copiousoutput

and in my .muttrc:

# view annoying html mail inline
auto_view text/html
# if plain text and html prefer plain text
alternative_order text/plain text/enriched text/html

HTH.

-- 
Will Yardley
input: william   hq . newdream . net . 




Re: replying to and quoting an HTML attachment

2002-07-10 Thread Gary Johnson

On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 05:06:12PM -0700, Eugene Lee wrote:
 I looked in the archives and couldn't find a specific answer this one.
 I receive several HTML messages that arrive as an attachment with no
 plain text equivalent in the main message body or another attachment.
 When I reply to these messages, how do I configure Mutt to convert the
 HTML attachment into plain text, quote it, and finally edit it?  Or is
 this a mailcap issue?  Thanks in advance.

It's at least partly a mailcap issue.  If you already have mutt and
mailcap configured to display HTML attachments as plain text in the
pager, replying should just work as you described.  Otherwise, you
will need an entry like this in your mailcap:

text/html; w3m -dump %s; nametemplate=%s.html; copiousoutput

and you _may_ need this in your muttrc:

auto_view text/html

The auto_view command is required for the pager to work; I don't know if
it's required to convert HTML to plain text in replies.

HTH,
Gary

-- 
Gary Johnson   | Agilent Technologies
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   | Spokane, Washington, USA
http://www.spocom.com/users/gjohnson/mutt/ |



Re: replying to and quoting an HTML attachment

2002-07-10 Thread Eugene Lee

On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 05:36:43PM -0700, Gary Johnson wrote:
: 
: On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 05:06:12PM -0700, Eugene Lee wrote:
:  
:  I receive several HTML messages that arrive as an attachment with no
:  plain text equivalent in the main message body or another attachment.
:  When I reply to these messages, how do I configure Mutt to convert the
:  HTML attachment into plain text, quote it, and finally edit it?  Or is
:  this a mailcap issue?  Thanks in advance.
: 
: It's at least partly a mailcap issue.  If you already have mutt and
: mailcap configured to display HTML attachments as plain text in the
: pager, replying should just work as you described.  Otherwise, you
: will need an entry like this in your mailcap:
: 
: text/html; w3m -dump %s; nametemplate=%s.html; copiousoutput

Thanks to you and John Iverson and Will Yardley for the responses.
It turned out to be my mailcap entry.  I had this:

text/html; links %s; nametemplate=%s.html

when I really needed this:

text/html; links -dump %s; nametemplate=%s.html; copiousoutput

Now if I can only figure out how to keep both entries and get Mutt to
let me select between the two methods...


-- 
Eugene Lee
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Mutt 1.3.28 internal pager, Screen 3.09.11: right-padded spaces

2002-07-10 Thread Rick Moen

When I ssh in from my X11 desktop to my server (both Debian 3.0) and
start sessions under GNU Screen (v. 3.09.11), among which are Mutt (v.
1.3.28) instances, I get a weird effect with Mutt's internal pager:

If I highlight text from Mutt's internal pager and use X11 copy/paste to 
copy it to elsewhere, there is right-side padding of all lines of text.
Most lines get padded all the way to column 80.  Some shorter lines get
less (and I'm not sure what the pattern is).  

Text copied/pasted from vim (as Mutt editor), or from less used in 
place of the internal pager, don't show this symptom.

If I exit from Screen entirely, then start up Mutt and use its internal 
pager, X11 copy/pastes from the internal pager do NOT show that effect.
So, something unhealthy's going on between Mutt's internal pager and Screen.


:r! echo $TERM
screen

:r! ls -l .terminfo/s/
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx1 rick rick   37 Jul 10 17:13 screen - 
../../usr/share/terminfo/s/screen-bce

Excerpt from /etc/screenrc :

# Tell screen terminal it's running on supports Background Color Erase.
defbce on


I'm probably missing something obvious, but I _have_ worked at this
problem.  Much as I love the internal pager, this terminal glitch is a
real pain.

If it'll help, I believe the problem spontaneously showed up immediately
after a Mutt version update, and has been constant since then.  I'm
sorry to say I don't remember which version.

-- 
Cheers,There are only 10 types of people in this world -- 
Rick Moen  those who understand binary arithmetic and those who don't.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



how to use the ISP''s smtp server directly

2002-07-10 Thread a_mukher

Hi,
 I would like to use mutt without the sendmail server on my machine. I find sendmail 
configuration quite abstruse. Can I directly make Mutt connect to my ISP's outgoing 
SMTP server.

Regards
Amit
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x-sender errors ?

2002-07-10 Thread W. D. McKinney


I know this must have been discussed somewhere before, but being new to
mutt please bear with me. Where does one got find the best archives to
search for resolving these errors ?

X-Authentication-warning  papason.wdm.com: deem set sender to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] using -f

(my vimrc wraps, sorry.)

/Dee




Re: x-sender errors ?

2002-07-10 Thread Will Yardley

W. D. McKinney wrote:

 I know this must have been discussed somewhere before, but being new to
 mutt please bear with me. Where does one got find the best archives to
 search for resolving these errors ?
 
 X-Authentication-warning  papason.wdm.com: deem set sender to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] using -f

this is an MTA issue (almost definitely sendmail in this case).  you
need to add your user as a trusted user in the sendmail configuration,
or ignore the errors (they don't actually cause any real problems that
i'm aware of).

a google search turned up some other interesting alternatives at:
http://www.cm.nu/~shane/lists/comp.mail.sendmail/2002-06/0049.html

-- 
Will Yardley
input: william  @ hq . newdream . net .