SOLVED : Re: Problems with hooks
Preben Randhol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/09/2002 (11:38) : Is there a way so I can set up a default hook which will be used for all folders that do not have a special folder-hook? If not I have to set up folder hooks for all the folders which is a bit cumbersome. Please ignore my question after drinking some more coffee I found out my error in my setup files so I got the folder-hook . \ to work. -- Preben Randhol Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent, Isaac Asimov
Re: overriding headers - is version info a security hole?
* Peter T. Abplanalp [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-08-29 17:12 (12:38:00)] i fail to see how knowing the version of mutt you are running will give any attacker enough information to hack your box. Hints... take a carefull peek at the mail headers... than you get noy only the MUA, but the first MTA involved, his linux box, usually, with two version numbers. You can now relate them with a concrete linux distro. you know holes from. i also heard/read somewhere that the only secure computer is the one that you have ground into fine silcon dust and scattered in the wind. Rmember that C2 claims MS did about his NT4... tha concrete computer certified, couldn't have floppy drives, CD, network cards, nor any other device that communicates the machine, excepting mouse, keyboard and monitor. -- Rafael C. Gawenda, «ais» Systems Techie GnuPG key: 0x5C4839A5 Registered LiNUX user #93375 You can't assign IP address 127.0.0.1 to the loopback adapter, because it is a reserved address for loopback devices (Microsoft Windows XP - P R O F E S S I O N A L) msg30666/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
mutt colors
Hi all, one of my colorsets is color hdrdefault blackcyan The text, but _only_ the text of my headers is black on cyan. Is it possible to get the whole lines backgrounded in cyan? Tested in xterm, aterm and ttyx. Thx in advance Ciao Elimar -- The way to source is always uphill! -unknown- msg30667/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mutt colors
On Wed, Sep 04, 2002 at 01:49:26PM +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: Hi all, one of my colorsets is color hdrdefault blackcyan The text, but _only_ the text of my headers is black on cyan. Is it possible to get the whole lines backgrounded in cyan? Tested in xterm, aterm and ttyx. yes - by modifying mutt. It's the way mutt sets up the calls to ncurses which produces this behavior. -- Thomas E. Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net
Re: mutt colors
On Wed, 04 Sep 2002 the mental interface of Thomas Dickey told: On Wed, Sep 04, 2002 at 01:49:26PM +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: Hi all, one of my colorsets is color hdrdefault blackcyan The text, but _only_ the text of my headers is black on cyan. Is it possible to get the whole lines backgrounded in cyan? Tested in xterm, aterm and ttyx. yes - by modifying mutt. It's the way mutt sets up the calls to ncurses which produces this behavior. I've seen some screenshots with the behaviour I want in the net? Can't remember the adresses. Ciao Elimar -- On the keyboard of life you have always to keep a finger at the escape key;-) msg30669/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mutt colors
On Wed, Sep 04, 2002 at 02:08:45PM +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: On Wed, 04 Sep 2002 the mental interface of Thomas Dickey told: On Wed, Sep 04, 2002 at 01:49:26PM +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: Hi all, one of my colorsets is color hdrdefault blackcyan The text, but _only_ the text of my headers is black on cyan. Is it possible to get the whole lines backgrounded in cyan? Tested in xterm, aterm and ttyx. yes - by modifying mutt. It's the way mutt sets up the calls to ncurses which produces this behavior. I've seen some screenshots with the behaviour I want in the net? Can't remember the adresses. The slang configuration does this. (I'm offering advice only, since some time ago I sent patches for mutt more than once which were ignored). -- Thomas E. Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net
location of signature.
Hi, Everyone, Mutt automatically put the signature at the end of the email. Can I let it be put before the quoted text? Thanks. -- Bo Peng Department of Statistics Rice University http://www.stat.rice.edu/~bpeng Office: DH2076, (713) 348-2863
Re: location of signature.
# Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-09-04 10:24:57 + (-0500): Hi, Everyone, Mutt automatically put the signature at the end of the email. Can I let it be put before the quoted text? yes. use Outlook. -- FreeBSD 4.6-STABLE 5:32PM up 14 days, 23:25, 8 users, load averages: 0.02, 0.03, 0.03
QP/base64 issues
Hello, This has been bugging me all afternoon, so it's time I let people who know what they're doing tell me what I'm doing wrong :) Basically, I want mail sent with foreign chars such as £ å é etc to *not* be sent as QP or base64. Now, with % /usr/sbin/sendmail -t From: me To: you Subject: blah £ñ÷åòôùïéõ±²³´ . it works *perfectly*. I get a nice clean mail, which hasn't been modified in any way, and everything in the world is Good [tm]. Unfortunately, no matter how I configure mutt, I cannot seem to get it to behave. I believe the matter is due to the allow_8bit and use_8bitmime variables, but no combination of these two gives me what I want. set allow_8bit, unset use_8bitmime: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to base64 by gateg.kw.bbc.co.uk £ ends up coming out as ? unset allow_8bit, unset use_8bitmime: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable £ ends up coming out as ? unset allow_8bit, unset use_8bitmime: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable £ ends up coming out as ? set allow_8bit, set use_8bitmime: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to base64 by gateg.kw.bbc.co.uk £ ends up coming out as ? I don't know where to go from here. All other configuration variables seem to be unrelated. I want my mails to stop having lame =20 things plastered all over them when I want to use a £ sign. Someone please give me clues :-) -- Jonathan Perkin - BBC Internet Services - http://support.bbc.co.uk/ Please check email headers for any relevant contact details
Re: location of signature.
* Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09/04/2002 18:01]: Mutt automatically put the signature at the end of the email. Can I let it be put before the quoted text? This discussion (Message-ID 8gcg1a$qte$[EMAIL PROTECTED]) may be helpful for you. -- Best regards Heiko
imap+proxy+mutt
Hi I am using mutt to read the mails from imap server. by mutt -f{imap server}. but when i try to send the mails outside the lan its not working(bouncing back). whereas inside mails are reaching inside the lan. I am behind the proxy. mail server and proxy are running on same machines.there are some machines in our lan which dont require proxy authentication. From those machines mutt could send mails to any destination outside and inside. I copied some standard .muttrc and defined spoolfolder and required imap settings. Do i miss something here? Is there any way to define my smtp to point to gateway / proxy smtp ? Want to sell your car? advertise on Yahoo Autos Classifieds. It's Free!! visit http://in.autos.yahoo.com
Re: location of signature.
I am sorry but I could not find this message. Could you tell me its subject or date? Is it in mutt-user group? Thanks. Bo On Wed, Sep 04, 2002 at 08:16:12PM +0200, Heiko Heil wrote: * Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09/04/2002 18:01]: Mutt automatically put the signature at the end of the email. Can I let it be put before the quoted text? This discussion (Message-ID 8gcg1a$qte$[EMAIL PROTECTED]) may be helpful for you.
Re: location of signature.
Bo Peng wrote: I am sorry but I could not find this message. Could you tell me its subject or date? Is it in mutt-user group? This discussion (Message-ID 8gcg1a$qte$[EMAIL PROTECTED]) may be helpful for you. It's a message ID. Go search Google Groups for it; you'll get a 12 message thread. -dsr- -- Robin: Where'd you get a live fish, Batman? Batman: The true crimefighter always carries everything he needs in his utility belt, Robin.
mutt and exchange
I looked around for information on how to do this, but didn't find any. I would like to be able to deal with my email using mutt, as I have for a year or two. Unfortunately, the job I now have uses MS Exchange for email and I can't seem to get mutt talking to it. When I run mutt -f imap://server/ it asks for my username and password, then tells me that the login failed. The username and password are right, since I use them successfully with Outlook. Much the same thing happens with Mozilla mail, incidentally. Is there any way to get more information? Is imap the wrong choice for dealing with Exchange? Do I need something more in the URL? --Greg
Re: mutt and exchange
On Wed, 04 Sep 2002 the mental interface of Gregory Seidman told: I looked around for information on how to do this, but didn't find any. I would like to be able to deal with my email using mutt, as I have for a year or two. Unfortunately, the job I now have uses MS Exchange for email and I can't seem to get mutt talking to it. When I run mutt -f imap://server/ it asks for my username and password, then tells me that the login failed. The username and password are right, Ask your M$ -Administrator. Does he exists? since I use them successfully with Outlook. Much the same thing happens with Mozilla mail, incidentally. Is there any way to get more information? Is imap the wrong choice for dealing with Exchange? Do I need something No! The admin has to enable imap. Does he knows how to? more in the URL? --Greg -- Learned men are the cisterns of knowledge, not the fountainheads ;-) msg30679/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mutt and exchange
Quoting Gregory Seidman [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed, Sep 04 15:21: Unfortunately, the job I now have uses MS Exchange for email and I can't seem to get mutt talking to it. At my previous job it took me a while to get fetchmail working with Exchange. It has been a while, but I seem to remember that my username included the Windows Workgroup in it: \\WORKGROUP\USERNAME. Or maybe after escaping the backslashes it was this: WORKGROUP\\USERNAME . Try something like that. Omen -- Remember, UNIX spelled backwards is XINU. smime.p7s Description: application/pkcs7-signature
Re: mutt and exchange
Elimar Riesebieter said: No! The admin has to enable imap. Does he knows how to? I believe that IMAP is enabled by default on Exchange (it was on mine, I believe). So if it's not running, the admin must have turned it off. -- PGP Fingerprint: 0AA8 DC47 CB63 AE3F C739 6BF9 9AB4 1EF6 5AA5 BCDF Member, LEAF Project http://leaf.sourceforge.netAIM: MikeLeone Public Key - http://www.mike-leone.com/~turgon/turgon-public-key.asc Some days you're the pigeon; some days you're the statue. Random Thought: --
Re: mutt and exchange
Gregory Seidman said: When I run mutt -f imap://server/ it asks for my username and password, then tells me that the login failed. The username and password are right, since I use them successfully with Outlook. Much the same thing happens with Mozilla mail, incidentally. Is there any way to get more information? Is imap the wrong choice for dealing with Exchange? Do I need something more in the URL? Try adding the domain to the username domainname\username (note backslash) This allows you to authenticate to the MS domain, to login. --Greg -- PGP Fingerprint: 0AA8 DC47 CB63 AE3F C739 6BF9 9AB4 1EF6 5AA5 BCDF Member, LEAF Project http://leaf.sourceforge.netAIM: MikeLeone Public Key - http://www.mike-leone.com/~turgon/turgon-public-key.asc Some days you're the pigeon; some days you're the statue. Random Thought: --
Re: mutt and exchange
Michael Leone sez: } } Elimar Riesebieter said: } } No! The admin has to enable imap. Does he knows how to? } } I believe that IMAP is enabled by default on Exchange (it was on mine, I } believe). So if it's not running, the admin must have turned it off. I have determined that IMAP is enabled, and that the servername I was using in Outlook does map to an IP address. Omen Wild sez: } Quoting Gregory Seidman [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed, Sep 04 15:21: } Unfortunately, the job I now have uses MS Exchange for email and I } can't seem to get mutt talking to it. } } At my previous job it took me a while to get fetchmail working with } Exchange. It has been a while, but I seem to remember that my username } included the Windows Workgroup in it: \\WORKGROUP\USERNAME. Or maybe } after escaping the backslashes it was this: WORKGROUP\\USERNAME . } Try something like that. Well, I guessed a couple of workgroups, which didn't work, but I don't know what workgroup I am in. Is there any way to tell from Windows XP Professional (which is where I have Outlook working)? I don't believe the machine itself is part of a workgroup, since I installed WinXP on it myself. I don't recall entering a workgroup anywhere at all. } Omen --Greg
Syncing problems
Hi folks! I'm using a compresed folder for this list as a local archive... it has about 1.200 selected mails (hint about list content quality), and some weeks ago I started having a problem that annoys me a lot. My procmail moves the list new mails into mail/m.lists/inet-tech/mutt-users and I move them to the archive (usually unread) manually in mutt. Then when I get time to a list session, open the .gz mbox, reading, deleting or archiving, and then the problem comes, but only if the number of unread mails is about 100 or over. When I've done half of the session, and change folder, nothing is synced and I'll have to start over selecting for deletion or archiving, but the compressing to message is displayed. I suppose I'm going to do that work in the procmail non compressed mbox, but then I loose the previous thread messages, so I'm going to need two mutt, with different folders opened. Too much work, isn't it? Another thing is about a bug in quote_regexp (IMHO) I've reported some weeks ago (and didn't hear anything back), and could be noted in this mail signature ;) -- Rafael C. Gawenda, «ais» Systems Techie GnuPG key: 0x5C4839A5 Registered LiNUX user #93375 Incluso la verdad se tambalea si es sometida a un análisis excesivo (Doctrina Bene Gesserit. DUNE) msg30684/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mutt and exchange
On Wed, Sep 04, 2002 at 04:27:19PM -0400, Gregory Seidman wrote: Michael Leone sez: Well, I guessed a couple of workgroups, which didn't work, but I don't know what workgroup I am in. Is there any way to tell from Windows XP Professional (which is where I have Outlook working)? I don't believe the machine itself is part of a workgroup, since I installed WinXP on it myself. I don't recall entering a workgroup anywhere at all. I have this in my .muttrc: set imap_user=username set imap_pass=password This works just fine for me connecting to Exchange 5.5 IMAP, no domain information is necessary. Also, I didn't happen to notice what version of Mutt you are using. The 1.2 branch has really bad IMAP support. You might want to try the 1.3 or 1.4 branches if you aren't using them already. -- David Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: location of signature.
OK. I found the messages and I am not glad about those so-called rules. I THINK it is better to put the reply BEFORE quoted text and this has nothing to do with M$. It is natural (to me) to put important part (my reply) before non-important part (quote) and keep my signature closer to the main body. This also makes an email easier to read if the quote is long. If mutt does not have this function, it is perfectly fine. But there is nothing wrong with M$ to provide it! Bo On Wed, Sep 04, 2002 at 03:14:55PM -0400, -dsr- wrote: Bo Peng wrote: I am sorry but I could not find this message. Could you tell me its subject or date? Is it in mutt-user group? This discussion (Message-ID 8gcg1a$qte$[EMAIL PROTECTED]) may be helpful for you. It's a message ID. Go search Google Groups for it; you'll get a 12 message thread. -dsr-
Re: location of signature.
At 7:17 PM EDT on September 4 Bo Peng sent off: I THINK it is better to put the reply BEFORE quoted text and this has nothing to do with M$. It is natural (to me) to put important part (my reply) before non-important part (quote) I understand your line of reasoning, but I think most people (if they haven't been corrupted by years of the other way) prefer a temporal ordering, i.e. old stuff at top, new stuff at bottom. and keep my signature closer to the main body. I'd rather keep each sentence of my reply as close as possible to the point that it is replying to. This also makes an email easier to read if the quote is long. The quote should not be long, and the biggest reason why so many UNIX types hate M$ for promulgating the bottom quote style is that it encourages people to attach entire threads at the bottom of each message, guaranteeing that noone will ever read them. -- ...from a gulf beyond the sun and stars that illume the Lethean shoals and the vague lands of somnolent visions, I floated on a black unrippling tide to the dark threshold of a dream. - Clark Ashton Smith Robert I. Reid | PGP/GPG Keys: http://astro.utoronto.ca/~reid/pgp.html
Re: location of signature.
* Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-04-02 18:22]: OK. I found the messages and I am not glad about those so-called rules. I THINK it is better to put the reply BEFORE quoted text and this has nothing to do with M$. It is natural (to me) to put important part (my reply) before non-important part (quote) and keep my signature closer to the main body. This also makes an email easier to read if the quote is long. If mutt does not have this function, it is perfectly fine. But there is nothing wrong with M$ to provide it! You ARE entitled to your ?OPINION?. Hope you have a flak jacket. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org
Re: location of signature.
* Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-04-02 18:22]: It is natural (to me) to put important part (my reply) before non-important part (quote) If the quote isn't important, leave it out altogether. Notice how I didn't quote all of the text of the original message? Notice how much easier to read it is this way? Mail-Followup-To: set. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.ca/~charlesc/software/ ---
Re: mutt and exchange
Hi Gregory! i also had the prob with my mutt. without putting my password into my muttrc - i think its much saver on most computers but mine at home - i found something strange out. when i backspaced on the password-question and tham typed my password it worked. so there was some prob with the login. well the sad thing is, that i didn't find out any solution but this i just told you. try it for yourself like i just told you. maybe this leads you to find the prob. cu corren On Wed, 04 Sep 2002, Gregory Seidman wrote: I looked around for information on how to do this, but didn't find any. I would like to be able to deal with my email using mutt, as I have for a year or two. Unfortunately, the job I now have uses MS Exchange for email and I can't seem to get mutt talking to it. When I run mutt -f imap://server/ it asks for my username and password, then tells me that the login failed. The username and password are right, since I use them successfully with Outlook. Much the same thing happens with Mozilla mail, incidentally. Is there any way to get more information? Is imap the wrong choice for dealing with Exchange? Do I need something more in the URL? --Greg msg30690/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: location of signature.
The discussion has gone closely to personal attack. I might have triggered some anti-M$ feelings. :-( I THINK it is better to put the reply BEFORE quoted text and this has nothing to do with M$. It is natural (to me) to put important part (my reply) before non-important part (quote) I understand your line of reasoning, but I think most people (if they haven't been corrupted by years of the other way) prefer a temporal ordering, i.e. old stuff at top, new stuff at bottom. There is nothing wrong with either order. Nobody is 'corrupted' by anything. Software as good as mutt should be neutral between these preferences, i.e. provides support for both styles. This also makes an email easier to read if the quote is long. The quote should not be long, and the biggest reason why so many UNIX types hate M$ for promulgating the bottom quote style is that it encourages people to attach entire threads at the bottom of each message, guaranteeing that noone will ever read them. I do not see anything wrong with quoting the whole message. It is a good reference if the reader need to read it or it can be ignored easily. I do not think bandwidth is an issue too. The picture I sent yesterday would have cost the bandwidth of 1000 emails' quoted text. I will write a vim function to insert my signature. Bo
Re: location of signature.
* Bo Peng ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [05 Sep 2002 11:40]: [...] I do not see anything wrong with quoting the whole message. It is a good reference if the reader need to read it or it can be ignored easily. But I already have the previous messages. I can press P and read them. A much better reference is the appropriate text spliced by the reply. That way, I get immediate context for the reply rather than having to flip to the bottom of the email, which could be quite long and thus several pages down and then back up. I do not think bandwidth is an issue too. The picture I sent yesterday would have cost the bandwidth of 1000 emails' quoted text. But you weren't sending that picture to 1000 people. How many people are on this list? Multiply the size of your email by that number. Then, assume a thread that has gone on for a while. Start using factorials to calculate the bandwidth use. Anyway, to cut to the chase, it all gets bigger. The key is not how much bandwidth you use, but how much you waste. I have no doubt that your picture was appropriately important. I have to question, however, the importance of, say, this email having the text of all previous emails within the thread. Needless. P ( parent-message ) is your friend. All in all: it's a debate that has gone on for quite some time. Those experienced in the Internet have a preferred way that they have arrived at from experimentation and empirical analysis. Those inexperienced in the net just use whatever they think of. Eventually, they learn. cheers, -- Iain.
Re: location of signature.
Bo Peng wrote: I THINK it is better to put the reply BEFORE quoted text and this has nothing to do with M$. It is natural (to me) to put important part (my reply) before non-important part (quote) I understand your line of reasoning, but I think most people (if they haven't been corrupted by years of the other way) prefer a temporal ordering, i.e. old stuff at top, new stuff at bottom. There is nothing wrong with either order. Nobody is 'corrupted' by anything. Software as good as mutt should be neutral between these preferences, i.e. provides support for both styles. It *does* support both styles set sig_on_top And even M$ knows it's bad to top post or fullquote: http://www.jsiinc.com/newsgroup_document.htm This also makes an email easier to read if the quote is long. The quote should not be long, and the biggest reason why so many UNIX types hate M$ for promulgating the bottom quote style is that it encourages people to attach entire threads at the bottom of each message, guaranteeing that noone will ever read them. I do not see anything wrong with quoting the whole message. It is a good reference if the reader need to read it or it can be ignored easily. I do not think bandwidth is an issue too. The picture I sent yesterday would have cost the bandwidth of 1000 emails' quoted text. I will write a vim function to insert my signature. Fullquoting is extremely rude... especially on a discussion list, since people looking through the archives have to look through mounds and mounds of fullquoted messages. I would much rather have someone top post than full quote, but I find that most of the time, the two go together. -- Will Yardley input: william hq . newdream . net .
Re: location of signature.
'set sig_on_top' is all I need. Just as Mutt user's manual says: 'It is strongly recommended that you do not set this variable unless you really know what you are doing, and are prepared to take some heat from netiquette guardians.', I was taught some lessons by the guardians. :-) Thank you. Bo
A couple of questions
I have a couple of questions about a couple of things. 1. I have a custom attribution string for responding to e-mails that I send to people at work. The attribution use ~t to show to whom the previous, quoted e-mail was addressed. However, if the e-mail is addressed to more then one person, only the first person shows up in the attribution string. Is it possible to show all of the users to whom the original e-mail was sent? 2. When I receive an e-mail from someone at work that is a reply to an earlier e-mail and I view it in the pager, where the other senders MUA inserted \t (tab) as the quote/attribution character, Mutt replaces the \t with a . I would like to keep the \t instead. I have played with indent_string and quote_regexp. 3. Smart_wrap=no doesn't seem to have an impact on the same e-mails. Any ideas? 4. Is there a way to see what hooks Mutt is applying to a folder or e-mail in real-time? It would help with the debugging. 5. Is there a way to force Mutt to reload the .muttrc without quiting and launching? 6. Is there a way using a message-hook or send-hook to know when an e-mail is new vs. being a reply or forward? I'd like to only sign e-mails that I am creating and not replies or forwards. Thanks for your help. -- Michael Herman msg30695/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mutt and exchange
* David Rock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote this on 09 04, 02 at 18:05: On Wed, Sep 04, 2002 at 04:27:19PM -0400, Gregory Seidman wrote: Michael Leone sez: Just to be clear .. I did *not* say the following. Well, I guessed a couple of workgroups, which didn't work, but I don't know what workgroup I am in. Is there any way to tell from Windows XP Professional (which is where I have Outlook working)? I don't believe the machine itself is part of a workgroup, since I installed WinXP on it myself. I don't recall entering a workgroup anywhere at all.
Re: A couple of questions
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Re: QP/base64 issues
On 020904, at 17:57:25, Jonathan Perkin wrote Basically, I want mail sent with foreign chars such as £ å é etc to *not* be sent as QP or base64. Unfortunately, no matter how I configure mutt, I cannot seem to get it to behave: unset allow_8bit, unset use_8bitmime: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable £ ends up coming out as ? unset allow_8bit, unset use_8bitmime: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable £ ends up coming out as ? mutt is responsible for these being encoded, as expected since $allow_8bit is unset. set allow_8bit, unset use_8bitmime: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to base64 by gateg.kw.bbc.co.uk £ ends up coming out as ? set allow_8bit, set use_8bitmime: X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to base64 by gateg.kw.bbc.co.uk £ ends up coming out as ? Here the conversion is being done by gateg.kw.bbc.co.uk. Avoid having your messages relayed by this host to prevent the conversion :-). -- David Ellement
Re: A couple of questions
Michael Herman wrote: 1. I have a custom attribution string for responding to e-mails that I send to people at work. The attribution use ~t to show to whom the previous, quoted e-mail was addressed. However, if the e-mail is addressed to more then one person, only the first person shows up in the attribution string. Is it possible to show all of the users to whom the original e-mail was sent? You'll likely have to patch your Mutt to get this functionality. 4. Is there a way to see what hooks Mutt is applying to a folder or e-mail in real-time? It would help with the debugging. No. Someone did propose a hook menu to show all of the hooks as processed by Mutt, but not something that would show you all of the hooks that were executed. 6. Is there a way using a message-hook or send-hook to know when an e-mail is new vs. being a reply or forward? I'd like to only sign e-mails that I am creating and not replies or forwards. Not in Mutt 1.4. The development branch now has a reply-hook for this purpose.
Re: QP/base64 issues
I noticed this in the headers to your message as received on my end: X-Mime-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by inet34.rd.bbc.co.uk X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hpsdlfsa.sdd.hp.com So it seems your machine won't allow 8bit out, while mine won't allow qp in. -- David Ellement
Re: A couple of questions
On 020904, at 23:51:01, Andre Berger wrote * Michael Herman [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2002-09-04 23:06 -0400: 5. Is there a way to force Mutt to reload the .muttrc without quiting and launching? :source ~/.muttrc I find it helpful to include the lines: reset all unhook * at the beginning of my muttrc. -- David Ellement
Re: QP/base64 issues
At 21:05 -0700 04 Sep 2002, David Ellement [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I noticed this in the headers to your message as received on my end: X-Mime-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by inet34.rd.bbc.co.uk So it seems your machine won't allow 8bit out, It's more likely that the machine it's sending to doesn't announce that 8bit messages are acceptable, so that machine encodes it as 7 bit. X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hpsdlfsa.sdd.hp.com while mine won't allow qp in. Here it's probably not so much that it doesn't allow it, but that it removes the encoding for the convenience of software that's too lame to handle a simple standard that is over 10 years old. -- Aaron Schrab [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.schrab.com/aaron/ The data for most coffee URIs contain no caffeine. -- RFC 2324