Re: LC filename of attachement (off topic)
On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 06:00:53PM -0700, Michael Elkins wrote: In the view attachements menu I see name of attachement =?iso-8859-2?Q?poutn=ED_slavnost_SW.doc? The sender's MUA incorrectly encoded the filename in this manner. You can work around it by putting set rfc2047_parameters Thank you for answer. I read manual long time ago, must do it again. Does anybody probably know how to set sender's MUA (MS Outlook Express) to do it correctly? How does mutt encode the filenames? -- Hans Ginzel
Re: mbox opened read only after update to mutt 1.4i
On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 06:47:01PM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: * jochen issing [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-25 16:25]: after my recent update to 1.4i, I am not able able to remove any mails out of my spool files. I can open /var/mail/jochen with vim and can write it, but mutt refuses writing. Ah, I have solved the Problem!! It was the directory access to /var/mail, which was rwxrwxr-x and I have been other. Hence, I actually was not able to write into the directory. I find it quite interesting that mutt 1.4i has a problem with it and vim and my old mutt (1.3.28?) not. check the permissions on the binary of mutt 1.3.28 then. is it owned by root:other? no, its owned by root,root. There are no suid bits set as for vim and I changed permission of the directory and everything works fine. as for vim - if it allows writing to the mail spool then you can have lots of fun with it... If you think about using vim as a mail client, I don't think about fun ;-) jochen -- jochen issing mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mcf-music.de GPG:0A121BC
Re: mbox opened read only after update to mutt 1.4i
* jochen issing [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-26 09:44 +0200]: On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 06:47:01PM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: * jochen issing [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-25 16:25]: after my recent update to 1.4i, I am not able able to remove any mails out of my spool files. I can open /var/mail/jochen with vim and can write it, but mutt refuses writing. Because vim does not create a lockfile. Ah, I have solved the Problem!! It was the directory access to /var/mail, which was rwxrwxr-x and I have been other. Hence, I actually was not able to write into the directory. I find it quite interesting that mutt 1.4i has a problem with it and vim and my old mutt (1.3.28?) not. Either the old mutt or the old mutt_dotlock binary were setgid mail. no, its owned by root,root. There are no suid bits set as for vim and I changed permission of the directory and everything works fine. If there are other users on your machine, your created a security hole by this. Nicolas
Re: mbox opened read only after update to mutt 1.4i
On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 10:54:48AM +0200, Nicolas Rachinsky wrote: * jochen issing [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-26 09:44 +0200]: On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 06:47:01PM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: * jochen issing [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-25 16:25]: after my recent update to 1.4i, I am not able able to remove any mails out of my spool files. I can open /var/mail/jochen with vim and can write it, but mutt refuses writing. Because vim does not create a lockfile. Ah, I have solved the Problem!! It was the directory access to /var/mail, which was rwxrwxr-x and I have been other. Hence, I actually was not able to write into the directory. I find it quite interesting that mutt 1.4i has a problem with it and vim and my old mutt (1.3.28?) not. Either the old mutt or the old mutt_dotlock binary were setgid mail. no, its owned by root,root. There are no suid bits set as for vim and I changed permission of the directory and everything works fine. If there are other users on your machine, your created a security hole by this. Nicolas So you suggest me to setgid for mutt and/or mutt_dotlock and reset the /var/mail directory again? jochen -- jochen issing mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mcf-music.de GPG:0A121BC
Re: looking for a better send-hook
At 16:55 -0500 25 Sep 2002, Eugene Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : * Eugene Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-25 12:33]: : : The command send-hook '~h address' command : causes Mutt to generate an error h: not supported : in this mode that isn't documented anywhere. I'm looking at the header Received: and trying to find a match within send-hooks match against the message which was just started, and thus they don't have Received: headers. My parent match patch allows parts of send-hooks to match against the message to which you are replying, but at this time ~h isn't supported for send-hooks even when matching against the parent message. Changing this would require changes to mutt's internals that I haven't yet had time to do. It would also likely require that the patch be updated more frequently as other parts of mutt change. http://www.schrab.com/aaron/mutt/patch-1.3.24.ats.parent_match.1 I know message-hook supports ~h, but it only activates when I view the current message. And I don't want to remember to view a message to activate the hook. This wouldn't be a such problem with your standard message-hooks are also applied when you begin a reply, before send-hooks are applied. -- Aaron Schrab [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.schrab.com/aaron/ I dunno, I dream in Perl sometimes... --Larry Wall
Re: mbox opened read only after update to mutt 1.4i
jochen issing wrote: So you suggest me to setgid for mutt and/or mutt_dotlock and reset the /var/mail directory again? chmod 1777 /var/mail should work too. whether you do this or make mutt_dotlock setgid mail is pretty much up to you. -- Will Yardley input: william hq . newdream . net .
Re: $check-new
On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 03:40:07AM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: don't forget about comp.mail.mutt! http://www.google.com/search?q=mutt+%22new+mail%22scoring=d Ah, TSM must be the problem, thanks. Johan
mail box name in macro
hi is there a way to get the current mail box name in a macro ? for example I'd like to do «macro index m mailcurrent_box_name» -- Bernard Massot msg31265/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: vim+perl=vine
* jochen issing [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-26 07:44]: If you think about using vim as a mail client, I don't think about fun ;-) http://www.mossbayeng.com/~ron/vim/vine.html use vim and perl as a mail client - try it! Sven
mutt and exchange
Happily, I have mutt playing nice with the Exchange server at work over IMAP. This pleases me. Now I am looking for further interaction with the Exchange server. In particular, it is my understanding that there is some way to use the global (and personal?) address book(s) on the server. Maybe it's LDAP? Perhaps it has something to do with the query functions? Do I need an external program to help? Is there a HOWTO somewhere (Google did not find anything useful for mutt exchange howto)? --Greg
Re: fast conversion of html mail to text
* Mike Leone [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-26 03:35]: Actually, I've gotten many non-HTML spams, too. And I get many valid HTML mail, both newsletters and private correspondence. has the thought ever struck you that it might be *you*? Since I know many different people that both send and receive HTML mail, none of whome are spammers; and since I get a number of HTML-only newletters that are defintely not spam ... no, that thought has never struck me. :-) well, if you subscribe to a HTML-only newsletter then you were asking for it - so it's your problem. Has the thought ever struck you that perhaps you are too restrictive in what you accept? i have yet to see sn email which was enhanced by html. and i suppose i do have a problem with DOCuments from companies which forbid free software to use it, too. Random Thought: duh. Hey, not my fault - my SquirrelMail web interface sometimes forgets to read the output of the fortune program. it's your problem then. you are responsible for what you send! please refrain from sending arbitrary noise to lists - thankyou. Sven [usually attaching sigs which fit the content of the message]
Tagging mail by date
I've looked at the documentation and I know it's possible but does anyone have any examples of tagging mail by date? I.e. how do I tag all messages more than (say) 365 days old in the current mailbox? Or even better does anyone have any sample scripts using mutt as the 'source' for archiving mail? I've been looking at archmbox but it doesn't quite fit my requirements and I suspect that using mutt to actually extract the messages I want to archive may be easier than bodging archmbox. I particularly want to preserve the directory hierarchy, i.e. what I want to do ultimately is extract all messages older than xxx days from my current mail and append them to mailboxes in an identical archive hierarchy (which will be on a different machine with no serious disk quota limits). -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Problem with folder-hook - command must be *one* parameter
* D. J. Bolderman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-26 03:44]: send-hook . my_hdr From: me a@b folder-hook +empty my_hdr From: me c@d folder-hook +empty my_hdr Subject: test now, when changing to +empty, the folder-hooks do get triggered (i can tell be the X-Test: showing up) - but there is still From: me a@b, so the send-hook overrules the From: header as set by the folder-hook. You are right, I also tested it with the subject, and then the folder-hook works. Now, is there any way to work around this problem? how about using hooks on different folder sets and using unmy_hdr to throw away already set ones? folder-hook ! +empty unmy_hdr *; my_hdr From: me a@b folder-hook+empty unmy_hdr *; my_hdr From: me c@d this should work. no time for testing now. I would really like to have this feature. I'm downloading my hotmail account with gotmail, and when I'm in my hotmail IMAP folder, I want to sent mails with the from: address of my hotmail account. i suppose the mail that reaches you at hotmail is addressed to something like [EMAIL PROTECTED]? in that case - wouldn't set reverse_name suffice? Sven
Re: $check-new - TSM problem?
On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 02:28:53PM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: * Johan Svedberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-26 09:58]: Sven Guckes wrote: don't forget about comp.mail.mutt! http://www.google.com/search?q=mutt+%22new+mail%22scoring=d Ah, TSM must be the problem, thanks. TSM? TSM Tivoli Storage Manager The backup system we use. Read in the manual that this could be the problem, but now the admin says that it's not and mutt is compiled the right way on the system. So I'm confused again. I don't have anything like biff touching the files (I think)... Johan
Re: mail box name in macro - nope
* Bernard Massot [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-26 10:54]: is there a way to get the current mail box name in a macro ? for example I'd like to do «macro index m mailcurrent_box_name» you want the name of the current folder as an address to send to? oh, well, no, it is not possible. you cannot create variables in mutt and reference them in commands. then again, maybe it is possible to stuff the current folder's name into a file and have it put into a shell variable which then gets sourced... oh, no, this sounds a really *gross* hack... Sven
Re: Tagging mail by date
* Chris Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-26 09:25]: I.e. how do I tag all messages more than (say) 365 days old in the current mailbox? tag-pattern~d 365d (darren) -- Competence, like truth, beauty, and contact lenses, is in the eye of the beholder. -- Dr. Laurence J. Peter
Re: Tagging mail by date - pattern ~d
* Chris Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-26 13:25]: I've looked at the documentation and I know it's possible but does anyone have any examples of tagging mail by date? I.e. how do I tag all messages more than (say) 365 days old in the current mailbox? ~d1ydate is less than one year rtfm: 4.2.3. Searching by Date for more examples see also: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mutt/setup.php3#moving_mails Or even better does anyone have any sample scripts using mutt as the 'source' for archiving mail? procmail exists. procmail is powerful. no mutt required. .. i.e. what I want to do ultimately is extract all messages older than xxx days from my current mail and append them to mailboxes in an identical archive hierarchy (which will be on a different machine with no serious disk quota limits). send a copy to that other machine then and never mind the tedious task of selecting and storing on your restricted account then. saves a lot of time... User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.16i upgrade, please! mutt 1.4 has been out for a while. Mail-Followup-To: Chris Green [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] and if you are subscribed to this list then please tell mutt about it with subscribe mutt-users in your muttrc! thanks. Sven -- Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.guckes.net/mutt/the MUTT PAGES: Binaries| Bugs| DOWNLOAD| History| Intro| Installation| Links| MailList| NEWS| Patches| Philosophy| Pictures| Quotes| SETUP| Sites| Usenet| Users| Utilities| Windows| Wishlist -- Comparison to Elm|.. Not for everyone!| Pet Peeves| Sigs.
Re: $check-new - TSM problem?
* Johan Svedberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-26 13:41]: Ah, TSM must be the problem, thanks. TSM? TSM Tivoli Storage Manager The backup system we use. Read in the manual that this could be the problem, but now the admin says that it's not and mutt is compiled the right way on the system. So I'm confused again. I don't have anything like biff touching the files (I think)... maybe you should just rely on your procmail logfile... i remember there some nice (perl) script which can visualize the (new) mails within the folders since last time you checked. but this is not in sync with the current state within the folders, of course... Sven
Re: reread configuration file
On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 03:01:06PM -0700, Burton Samograd wrote: On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 11:36:38PM +0200, Hans Ginzel wrote: Something like: :function reread_cfg_files : reset all options to compile time : source startup files as by usual start :endfunction -- At the top of your .muttrc unset * unhook * should do the trick. burton unset * causes Error in /home/pkorman/.muttrc, line 1: *: unknown variable source: errors in /home/pkorman/.muttrc Press any key to continue... Mutt manual section 3.23 The reset command resets all given variables to the compile time defaults (hopefully mentioned in this manual). If you use the command set and prefix the variable with ``'' this has the same behavior as the reset command. With the reset command there exists the special variable ``all'', which allows you to reset all variables to their system defaults. reset all unhook * will work. I dont know if it clears folder hooks though. furthermore, if you rely on settings in /usr/local/etc/Muttrc you better move everything into your local setting file. -- []+ Wisdom is vindicated by all her children. +[] [] [] []+ GnuPG ECBA EA08 C3C1 251E 5FB5 D196 F8C8 F8B7 AB60 234D +[] msg31277/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
redefining mailboxes while running mutt
Hi, since I have a lot of mailboxes i wanted to see only those containing new mail while in the browser view. Because I use MH folders all needed is just a really simple shell script: for i in `flist -all -recurse -noshowzero -fast` do echo -n \+$i\ done But I have trouble using it. If I change my .muttrc to contain: mailboxes `getnewboxes.sh` everything is great, but to do that while Mutt is running. Something like entering: :mailboxes `getnewboxes.sh` doesn't work. Any Ideas? Thanks, Rob. -- r o b e r t | l i l l a c k www.lillaxsitedesign.de/rob secure mail key: 0xE7FFDF77
Re: reread configuration file
On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 10:28:56AM -0400, PeterKorman wrote: On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 03:01:06PM -0700, Burton Samograd wrote: On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 11:36:38PM +0200, Hans Ginzel wrote: Something like: :function reread_cfg_files : reset all options to compile time : source startup files as by usual start :endfunction -- At the top of your .muttrc unset * unhook * should do the trick. burton unset * causes Error in /home/pkorman/.muttrc, line 1: *: unknown variable source: errors in /home/pkorman/.muttrc Press any key to continue... Mutt manual section 3.23 The reset command resets all given variables to the compile time defaults (hopefully mentioned in this manual). If you use the command set and prefix the variable with ``'' this has the same behavior as the reset command. With the reset command there exists the special variable ``all'', which allows you to reset all variables to their system defaults. reset all unhook * will work. I dont know if it clears folder hooks though. furthermore, if you rely on settings in /usr/local/etc/Muttrc you better move everything into your local setting file. I'm pretty sure it clears folder hooks. if your first lines of .muttrc are: reset all unhook * source /usr/local/etc/Muttrc Your probably in good shape as long as your Muttrc is on this path. JPK -- []+ Wisdom is vindicated by all her children. +[] [] [] []+ GnuPG ECBA EA08 C3C1 251E 5FB5 D196 F8C8 F8B7 AB60 234D +[]
Re: looking for a better send-hook
At 10:05 -0500 26 Sep 2002, Eugene Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've tried this. Several times. The message-hook isn't applied when I select a message in index mode. It's applied only after I view the currently selected message and then reply to it. Of course message-hooks aren't applied when a message is simply selected in the index, but they are applied when you start a reply to a message even from the index. I tried it before sending my previous message, and it worked for me. I've now tried it with 1.4, just to make *sure* that this wasn't something that's been changed in the 1.5 development version, and it works for me there as well. Do you have a send-hook that's overriding the setting from the message-hook? -- Aaron Schrab [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.schrab.com/aaron/ [It is] best to confuse only one issue at a time. -- KR
Re: LC filename of attachement (off topic)
Hans Ginzel wrote: Does anybody probably know how to set sender's MUA (MS Outlook Express) to do it correctly? How does mutt encode the filenames? Mutt uses the method described in RFC2231. It should look something like this: Content-Disposition: attachment; filename*=iso-8859-2'cz'poutn%ED_slavnost_SW.doc
The browser
Anyone experinced mutt going to the wrong mailbox when you're in the browsers mailbox view and place the indicator on some mailbox and press enter? -- Johan Svedberg, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.acc.umu.se/~winkle
Re: S/MIME encrypt-to functionality as in GnuPG
Quoting Omen Wild [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed, Sep 25 10:37: I'll look into this. If that's the cause, then the problem is between my keyboard and chair, not yours. ;-) For anyone following this, the problem was indeed on my end. I have an updated patch, available from http://descolada.dartmouth.edu/mutt/patch-1.5.1-ow.smime-encrypt-self.2 for anyone interested. Omen -- Too much of a good thing is WONDERFUL. smime.p7s Description: application/pkcs7-signature
Re: mutt and exchange
Gregory Seidman said: Happily, I have mutt playing nice with the Exchange server at work over IMAP. This pleases me. Now I am looking for further interaction with the Exchange server. In particular, it is my understanding that there is some way to use the global (and personal?) address book(s) on the server. Maybe it's LDAP? By default, Exchange turns on POP and IMAP, and also LDAP. You can browse the GAL (Global Address List) via LDAP, but not personal address books. Perhaps it has something to do with the query functions? Do I need an external program to help? Is there a HOWTO somewhere (Google did not find anything useful for mutt exchange howto)? Good question. Dunno how mutt integrates with LDAP, but I know I have used Outlook Express to query a GAL via LDAP. If you need to configure a firewall or anything, LDAP access is port 389, I believe. -- PGP Fingerprint: 0AA8 DC47 CB63 AE3F C739 6BF9 9AB4 1EF6 5AA5 BCDF Member, LEAF Project http://leaf.sourceforge.netAIM: MikeLeone Public Key - http://www.mike-leone.com/~turgon/turgon-public-key.asc Registered Linux user# 201348 Random Thought: --
Re: fast conversion of html mail to text
Sven Guckes said: * Mike Leone [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-26 03:35]: Actually, I've gotten many non-HTML spams, too. And I get many valid HTML mail, both newsletters and private correspondence. has the thought ever struck you that it might be *you*? Since I know many different people that both send and receive HTML mail, none of whome are spammers; and since I get a number of HTML-only newletters that are defintely not spam ... no, that thought has never struck me. :-) well, if you subscribe to a HTML-only newsletter then you were asking for it - so it's your problem. It's *not* a problem, for me, anyway. I know about the possible security implications of HTML email, and know how to get around them. (most of them, anyway). Has the thought ever struck you that perhaps you are too restrictive in what you accept? i have yet to see sn email which was enhanced by html. and i suppose i do have a problem with DOCuments from companies which forbid free software to use it, too. Separate issue, tho. -- PGP Fingerprint: 0AA8 DC47 CB63 AE3F C739 6BF9 9AB4 1EF6 5AA5 BCDF Member, LEAF Project http://leaf.sourceforge.netAIM: MikeLeone Public Key - http://www.mike-leone.com/~turgon/turgon-public-key.asc Registered Linux user# 201348 Random Thought: -- Cigarro: Objeto cilíndrico de papel, recheado com palha. Contém uma faísca numa ponta e um idiota na outra.
Re: fast conversion of html mail to text
On Sep 26 2002, Sven Guckes shared a puddle of experience: snip about html email Just my 2p - I use procmail recipes (and a couple of scripts) to strip HTML formatting from all legitimate email. The same scripts add a note to the effect that HTML has been removed; if I want to exchange email with that person again, I generally ask for text-only email. People tend to cooperate, since after all they probably just don't realize it. Sven [usually attaching sigs which fit the content of the message] I find that my current .sig is often quite relevant when answering questions but even more so when asking them. It reminds me that the answer is only as good as the question. Besides, it's short. Laurabelle -- ASCII silly question, get a silly ANSI.
download pgpwrap from where?
Where do I download pgpewrap from? It's referred to in the sample muttrc files, for encrypting mail with gpg, however I can't find it anywhere on the web (though I've found hundreds of references to using it in my .muttrc ;-) ). I've searched debian.org, rpmfind, and the archives of mutt-users. Here's one of the offending lines from my .muttrc: set pgp_encrypt_sign_command=pgpewrap gpg --passphrase-fd 0 -v --batch --output - --encrypt --sign %?a?-u %a? --armor --always-trust -- -r %r -- %f -- Savanna. Free as in 'free speech', not 'free beer'. msg31289/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
