Re: snow leopard and mailboxes (and arrow keys)

2010-04-13 Thread Kyle Wheeler
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On Monday, April 12 at 04:03 PM, quoth John Velman:
 When I place the curser on a header line in Mutt and press Ctl-b, i 
 get a long list of the url's contained in that message, followed by 
 Press any key to continue  When I do, it takes me back to the 
 Mutt mailbox listing.

Sounds like you no longer have the Curses::UI perl module installed. 
Install that, and extract_url should go back to giving you a menu.

 I haven't a clue yet as to why my .muttrc doesn't seem to be working 
 -- well, not completely working, anyhow.  When I press 'L', it 
 generates a reply to this list, but when I tried 'L' with some 
 random message in my inbox, it did give me the message: No mailing 
 lists found.  So, it's reading my list of mailing lists, but not my 
 list of mailboxes or my macro for \cb.

 Any ideas?

That one I can't really help you with. All I can say is: when you 
reinstalled, you removed any-and-all extra software that you'd 
installed (such as the Curses::UI module). If your muttrc relied on 
any of that extra software, that's probably why it's not working.

~Kyle
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Re: handling List-Id header

2010-04-13 Thread Derek Martin
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:47:21AM +0200, ilf wrote:
 On 04-11 20:22, Michael Elkins wrote:
  The reason for the distinction between lists/subscribe is that just
  because you received an email that was addressed to a list doesn't
  mean that you are subscribed to said list.
 
 But if there's a List-Id header, I am subscribed.

That's not necessarily true.  For example, Mutt allows you to bounce
a message, headers and all, to someone else.  It's also possible for a
human to add a (possibly bogus) List-Id header, just to mess with you,
or who knows what other reason.  You might also receive spam that adds
such headers.  Etc..

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rich text email

2010-04-13 Thread J Aaron Anderson
Hey users I have come up against something I cannot figure out by myself and
was hoping someone who has set this up can clarify the documentation...

I don't know if rich-text in auto-view format is technically proper for
what I intend.

My goal is to have the email always look formatted in the recipient's
inbox.
It is NOT to ever display to user recipients as code when the viewer sees
the communication in their inbox.

When I set text/rtf::  ... mutt ... -e 'my_hdr Content-Type:text/rtf' ... ;
This sends the message as a .txt attachment now in Outlook and is NOT in the
preview window at all. No change to other Email Inbox Clients...

So far I have also tried 
.   Content-Type :  multipart/alternative
.   Content-Type :  text/html

Perhaps my header flags are enough to display the html correctly in
Outlook inbox but not others? (Attached is a comparative screenshot) Any
help is MUCH appreciated.

I think theres more I need to do in combination of a .muttrc file but don't
know where to go next. What is next to try ? 

Best,

Aaron
Programmer
Widener University





rich text email

2010-04-13 Thread J Aaron Anderson

Hey users 

I have come up against something I cannot figure out by myself and was
hoping someone who has set this up can clarify the documentation...

I don't know if rich-text in auto-view format is technically proper for
what I intend.

My goal is to have the email always look formatted in the recipient's
inbox.
It is NOT to ever display to user recipients as code when the viewer sees
the communication in their inbox.

When I set text/rtf::  ... mutt ... -e 'my_hdr Content-Type:text/rtf' ... ;
This sends the message as a .txt attachment now in Outlook and is NOT in the
preview window at all. No change to other Email Inbox Clients...

So far I have also tried 
.   Content-Type :  multipart/alternative
.   Content-Type :  text/html

Perhaps my header flags are enough to display the html correctly in
Outlook inbox but not others? (Attached is a comparative screenshot) Any
help is MUCH appreciated.

I think theres more I need to do in combination of a .muttrc file but don't
know where to go next. What is next to try ? 

Best,

Aaron
Programmer
Widener University





Re: Sending a reply to a group

2010-04-13 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20100411_200302, Michael Elkins wrote:
 On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 04:59:19PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
 On 20100409_103212, Michael Elkins wrote:
 It was unclear from your message exactly where the problem lies.  Are
 you seeing the address list truncated in the compose menu?  I do see
 that Mutt truncates the *display* of the address list at 255 chars, but
 
 I have a 1280x1080 flat screen, and to discover the problem I ran a xterm
 with font size 6. It was a test, not my normal way of reading mail.
 
 FYI, I increased the maximum size of the buffer used to display
 address lists to 1024.  Hopefully you don't have a terminal wider
 than that. ;-)
 
 me

Thanks, but ---

I think I prefer set edit_headers=yes. Before your earlier email I
had been unaware of this option. It allows me to review the whole
email at once, prior to sending. It doesn't bother me at all that I
can't edit some of the headers that I see.

If I discover a header that I really, really don't like, I know that I
can abort sending the email.

If I notice a header that I don't understand why it is there, I can 
investigate. 

In general, I feel I am better off with this than I would be if I were
using what I asked for.

-- 
Paul E Condon   
pecon...@mesanetworks.net


Re: snow leopard and mailboxes (and arrow keys)

2010-04-13 Thread John Velman
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 01:27:45AM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote:
 On Monday, April 12 at 04:03 PM, quoth John Velman:
  When I place the curser on a header line in Mutt and press Ctl-b, i 
  get a long list of the url's contained in that message, followed by 
  Press any key to continue  When I do, it takes me back to the 
  Mutt mailbox listing.
 
 Sounds like you no longer have the Curses::UI perl module installed. 
 Install that, and extract_url should go back to giving you a menu.
 

Yep.  That worked.  Thanks.  Now I just have to find out what else is
missing! 

Thanks,

John V.


Re: rich text email

2010-04-13 Thread Jostein Berntsen
On 13.04.10,10:11, J Aaron Anderson wrote:
 
 Hey users 
 
 I have come up against something I cannot figure out by myself and was
 hoping someone who has set this up can clarify the documentation...
 
 I don't know if rich-text in auto-view format is technically proper for
 what I intend.
 
 My goal is to have the email always look formatted in the recipient's
 inbox.
 It is NOT to ever display to user recipients as code when the viewer sees
 the communication in their inbox.
 
 When I set text/rtf::  ... mutt ... -e 'my_hdr Content-Type:text/rtf' ... ;
 This sends the message as a .txt attachment now in Outlook and is NOT in the
 preview window at all. No change to other Email Inbox Clients...
 
 So far I have also tried 
 . Content-Type :  multipart/alternative
 . Content-Type :  text/html
 
 Perhaps my header flags are enough to display the html correctly in
 Outlook inbox but not others? (Attached is a comparative screenshot) Any
 help is MUCH appreciated.
 
 I think theres more I need to do in combination of a .muttrc file but don't
 know where to go next. What is next to try ? 


Can you try set content_type=text/html instead in the command line?


Jostein



Re: snow leopard and mailboxes (and arrow keys)

2010-04-13 Thread John Velman
Snow Leopard and Mailboxes -- solved!

Currently in Snow Leopard, the access time is set for a while when
spotlight indexes it.  Which it does every time it is modified (with some
latency).   So when Mutt compares access and modification times for
mailboxes, they are generally the same.

Using the privacy preferences on spotlight I set my Mail folder to not be
indexed.

Now, at least after a first try!, my mailboxes notices seem to work.

Best,

John V.


On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 09:30:19AM -0700, John Velman wrote:
 I installed Snow Leopard over the weekend, with upgrades to 10.6.3.
 
 Now my mailboxes command doesn't work.  Looks like something funny Snow
 Leopard is doing with access times.  For example:
 
 jrv:Mail jr$ ls -lt list.haskell-cafe
 -rw---  1 jr  staff  3662981 Apr 12 09:04 list.haskell-cafe
 jrv:Mail jr$ ls -ltu list.haskell-cafe
 -rw---  1 jr  staff  3662981 Apr 12 09:04 list.haskell-cafe
 
 and
 
 jrv:Mail jr$ ls -lt list.xcode-users 
 -rw---  1 jr  staff  963539 Apr 12 09:12 list.xcode-users
 jrv:Mail jr$ ls -ltu list.xcode-users 
 -rw---  1 jr  staff  963539 Apr 12 09:12 list.xcode-users
 
 Has anyone got a workaround for this?
 
 
 
 I'm using the apple Terminal app, with the declare terminal as
 xterm-color (as I had it before).  The arrow keys no longer work either in
 the display of mail subjects, or in the command line for previous searches,
 saves, and so on.
 
 However, the arrow keys do work in the terminal itself (to retrieve
 previous commands, for example, or to edit a command).  
 
 Any suggestions?
 
 Oh, also, under previous OS X 10.5 (up to 10.5.8) for the last couple years
 I was using mutt-1.5.17.  After installing 10.6.3 I downloaded, compiled,
 and installed mutt-1.5.20 (with no options when I ran ./config).
 
 Thanks,
 
 John V.