Re: idiot requires email help
On Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 08:31:55PM +, rex wrote: On Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 02:51:19PM -0400, David T-G wrote: ...and then Belinda Roussel said... % I need to send an html web page on Unix and I don't know how to. Could % anyone please give me some guidance or direct me to a helpful web site Although this is the list for users of, and questions specifically pertaining to, the mutt mail program, perhaps someone can be of help. She wants to periodically and automatically mail a web page from *nix to a Netscape user and have it appear as HTML, not as raw ASCII. I suggested: You can MIME encode and send from the command line with Mutt: mutt -s "daily data" -a ~/data.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/boilerplate_text "data.html" is the HTML formatted file, "boilerplate_text" is any file (to make mutt happy), and "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" is the recipient address . I don't understand why people insist on sending automatic mails with mutt. It's a nice MUA and all, but for simply sending a single MIMEencoded file with a content-type other than text/plain it's simply the wrong tool. I suggest using metasend from the metmail package. Sending a single file is as simple as this: metasend -D "Description" -e base64 -m "image/gif" -f "file_to_send" \ -s "Mail_Subject" -S 100 -b -t [EMAIL PROTECTED] for non-binary data use "quoted-printable" or "7bit" instead of base64. It seems to work, though there may be better ways. I think so. I used mutt some time ago, but I got annoyed by that extra text/plain part that mutt required to be present. CU, Sec -- "Computers make very fast, very accurate, mistakes."
Re: [Announce] Mutt-1.1.10 is out (RELEASE CANDIDATE)
On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 06:49:15PM +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote: On 2000-03-30 17:11:26 +0100, Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS wrote: I'm offering 11 bytes, plus portability. Does it work anything like the attached program? No. Just try #!/bin/cat Hm. I had almost the same idea :) | matrix:~echo 'cat $0'a | matrix:~chmod a+x a | matrix:~./a | cat $0 | matrix:~wc -c a |7 a SCNR, Sec -- The UNIX Guru's View of Sex: # unzip ; strip ; touch ; finger ; mount ; fsck ; more ; yes ; umount ; sleep
Re: [Announce] mutt-1.1.9 is out - RELEASE CANDIDATE!
On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 06:13:16PM -0500, David T-G wrote: Now that I can build because I have a working compiler (sorry for the noise :-) I would like to look into my favorite feature patches. I use patch-0.00.sec.patchlist.7 patch-0.95.4.sec.expand_hook.1 [...] Can the authors or maintainers of the patches let me know if any of them are obsoleted or need to be updated, and where to get them? I will probably not be updating any patches soon, as I'm still using mutt-1.0, and I'm happy with it. CU, Sec -- Whatever the virtues of balance, it's just a pleasant form of insanity. PGP signature
Re: Count mails
On Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 11:33:34AM +0100, Dirk Huebner wrote:
Hi all,
this is no mutt-specific question, but I'm sure so can give me a
hint here.
I would like to examine my existing mail and create a statistic
about "mails from user per day"
For example: Search for "dirk.g.huebner" in ~/Mail/lists/xxx
and create the following output.
Day Total
01.03.2000: 5
02.03.2000: 3
05.03.2000: 6
...
Can s.o. point me to an existing script/recipe for that? Haven't found
anything...
I'd use something like this:
#!/usr/local/bin/perl -n
BEGIN{
use Date::Parse;
use POSIX;
};
chomp;
if ($hdr){
/^Date:\s+(.*)/ do {$date=$1;};
/^From:\s+(.*)/ do {$from=$1;};
/^$/ do{$hdr=0;$HoH{int(str2time($date)/3600/24)}{$from}++;};
}else{
/^From / do {$hdr=1; undef $from,$date;};
}
END{
foreach $family ( sort {$a = $b} keys %HoH ) {
print strftime("%d.%m.%Y: {\n",gmtime($family*60*60*24));
for $role ( sort {$HoH{$family}{$a} = $HoH{$family}{$b} }
keys %{ $HoH{$family} } ) {
printf "%3d %s\n",$HoH{$family}{$role},$role;
}
print "}\n";
}
}
which reads a Mailinglist-Folder on stdin, and outputs like this:
17.03.2000: {
1 Terje Elde [EMAIL PROTECTED]
1 "Danny O'Brien" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
1 David DeSimone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
1 Thomas Roessler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2 David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2 Charles Curley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2 Adahma [EMAIL PROTECTED]
3 Jason Helfman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
}
18.03.2000: {
1 David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED]
1 Daniel Gerber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
1 Dirk Huebner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
1 Shao Zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
1 Daniel Burrows [EMAIL PROTECTED]
1 Lars Hecking [EMAIL PROTECTED]
}
CU,
Sec
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The attached bug will fix that.
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Re: Count mails
On Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 05:39:26PM +0100, Jens Tautenhahn wrote:
[...]
to decode email-adresses like
"Harry =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=FCter?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
I've added a 'total' output at the end, lowercasing of the Adresses, and
an optional command line parameter to output only matching adresses.
I've also put this script as "mail_from_stats" at
http://sec.42.org/mutt/contrib/
CU,
Sec
--
My biggest problem was when I screwed up the device driver for my eyelids
I couldn't open my eyes to debug them.
#!/usr/local/bin/perl
use Date::Parse;
use POSIX;
use MIME::QuotedPrint;
while (STDIN){
chomp;
if ($hdr){
/^Date:\s+(.*)/ do {$date=$1;};
/^From:\s+(.*)/ do {$from=$1;};
/^$/ do {
$hdr=0;
next if( ($#ARGV+1) !($from =~ /$ARGV[0]/i));
$mail = decode_qp($from);
$mail =~ s/=\?(?:ISO|iso).+?Q\?(.+)\?=/$1/;
$mail = lc($mail);
$HoH{int(str2time($date)/3600/24)}{$mail}++;
$frm{$mail}++;
};
}else{
/^From / do {$hdr=1; undef $from,$date;};
}
};
foreach $family ( sort {$a = $b} keys %HoH ) {
print strftime("%d.%m.%Y: {\n",gmtime($family*60*60*24));
for $role ( sort {$HoH{$family}{$a} = $HoH{$family}{$b} } keys %{
$HoH{$family} } ) {
printf "%3d %s\n",$HoH{$family}{$role},$role;
}
print "}\n";
}
print "Totals: {\n";
for $key (sort {$frm{$a} = $frm{$b}} keys %frm){
printf "%3d %s\n",$frm{$key},$key;
};
print "}\n";
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Re: why is mutt better?
On Fri, Mar 10, 2000 at 09:38:22AM +0100, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: Having said this, I saw one feature in TheBat that I'd like to see Mutt have someday: the ability to create and use templates for new messages, replies, forwarded messages, etc. Definitely. Especially for my administrative mail like: "Your mailserver is an open relay", etc. I personally think this is better done in your editor. I have all my templates put into ~/.dau/ and use the attached macro set. It's started with ,dau and opens a window with an ls -l. Wander around with hjkl and select the appropriate file with enter. CU, Sec -- "Computers make very fast, very accurate, mistakes." " The File-BrowserReader. Very handsome. map ,dau o~/.dau/"dddu__filelist " start the file reader. Directory in register d. map __filelist :split . !!ls -l d __LN-__mm nn __LN- /[0-9] \K.. \=[0-9]CR3E2l " crate mapping for enter noremap __mm :map CR __rm0__LN-mai:r d`a"ay$:q! @a " remove mapping noremap __rm :unmap CRCR PGP signature
Re: Reply to full name from alias list
Hi, On Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 02:02:23PM +0530, Mrinal Kalakrishnan wrote: I was wondering if there is a feature by which, when I reply to, say this mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), the `To:' line should become the whole name and address from my alias file - i.e. `The Mutt Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED]', instead of what the original sender put in his `To:' line. Hope this was clear enough. I didn't find any option for this in the docs (1.1.8i). Does this patch: http://sec.42.org/mutt/patch-0.95.4.sec.reverse_reply.1 | patch-0.95.4.sec.reverse_reply.1: | extends reverse_alias to also fix the Realnames in outgoing Mail. Do what you want? (It applies cleanly to 1.0, i didn't test the development-versions) CU, Sec -- One of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, lacking zero, they had now way to indicate successful termination of their C Programs.
Re: Status flags in 1.1.1
On Tue, Nov 23, 1999 at 06:07:25PM -0500, Jeremy wrote: On Mon, Nov 22, 1999 at 01:08:50PM +0100, Sven Guckes wrote: * Jeremy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [991121 08:46]: I just upgraded to 1.1.1. Previously, if a mail contained attachments (which require mailcap to view) they would have an M next to them in the index, with the status flags. They don't anymore. Is this a bug? Feature. Er, okay... but why? It was a useful feature, what possible reason could there be for removing it? I don't know, but maybe this helps you: http://sec.42.org/mutt/patch-0.95.4.sec.mailcap-fix.1 | This patch fixes the mailcap handling for mails which only contain an non | displayable attachment. It also brings back the 'M' Status character to | display this kind of mail. CU, Sec -- Do not meddle in the affairs of sysadmins, they are quick to anger and have no need for subtlety.
Re: german letters in iso-8859-1 Code
On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 11:02:52PM +0200, Ralf Orlowski wrote: My charset is set to iso-8859-1. But if I receive a mail with german letters like äöüß in it, this letters always just shown as ? in the pager. Can someone tell me, if I´ve missed a setting I could change, so that the pager is able to show all characters that are in the iso-8859-1 charset. I´ve read the documentation know about ten times, but couldn´t find anything, that changed that behavior. You either need to fix you locale settings (LC_CTYPE=de_DE.ISO_8859-1 works for me) or compile mutt with './configure --enable-locales-fix' CU, Sec -- Programs that make a computer worth to use: FreeBSD, zsh, mutt, wmx, procmail, vim, perl, less, LaTeX, fetch, slrn, screen, ssh, pgp, ircII, sendfile
Re: automatic shell command
On Tue, Sep 07, 1999 at 10:42:30AM +0100, Axel Tillequin wrote: Hi, Is it possible to have a shell command run each time mutt is opened. like if just after mutt comes up, i'd pressed ':command' I think you mean '!command' (at least in the default keymap) If you want mutt to do something each start, you could use the push command. (Look it up in the manual) push "!fetchmail\n" or even push "^g" if your macro works example: I've tried to bypass the builtin ^g (fetch-mail) to use the more powerfull program called "fetchmail" by putting macro generic ^g :fetchmail in the .muttrc file. problem: the ^g is still bind to the builtin fetch-mail function...like if the macro is not taken into account at all ?! I don't have pop support compiled in, so i can't tell for sure, but i think the default ^g-binding may be in the index/pager keymap where it has precedence over the generic keymap. So this would help you: macro index ^g '!fetchmail\n' macro pager ^g '!fetchmail\n' Related to this, you could recompile mutt without --enable-pop which should remove the default ^g-action, too. CU, Sec -- It's so nice to be insane, nobody asks you to explain.
Re: How to bind a set of functions to a key?
On Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 01:08:00PM +0200, Maciej Majchrowski wrote: There is a standrard bind such as: bind index m 'mail' I want to make something like this: bind index M 'my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; mail' But I doesn't work at all :-( use a macro to do more than one thing, macro index M ':my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]\nmail' And second question. How to bind an external command to a key, such as F1 is bind to 'zless /usr/doc/mutt/manual.txt.gz'. macro index F1'!zless /usr/doc/mutt/manual.txt.gz' CU, Sec -- Working on GUIs rots your brain. The KDE and GNOME developers are prime examples. -- brandon in asr
Re: Hooks...Done, but one problem.
On Mon, Aug 23, 1999 at 07:12:20PM -0400, Fairlight wrote: Nope...tried both and both still act under default folder-hook rules. Nice try...other ideas? I use folder-hook =Listen/mutt- "set strict_threads" Where '=' is short for $folder which is set to ~/Mail usually And that works for me. CU, Sec -- Since compiler users outnumber compiler writers 1000:1, if it's possible to save a compiler user 1 hour, it's worth 1000 hours of the compiler writer's time.
Re: pgp won't work for me
On Mon, Aug 23, 1999 at 12:38:05AM +0200, Martin Maciaszek wrote: On Sun, Aug 22, 1999 at 05:28:31PM -0400, Fairlight wrote: Where the `yes` is coming from unless you configured it that way, I have no idea... I tried running yes from the command line. It just spits out endless lines with "y\n" (y followed by newline). yes is probably run, because you told mutt to do so. In your muttrc you should set $pgp_v2 to the path of the pgp binary, not to 'yes' CU, Sec -- The attached bug will fix that. -- Byrial Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] on mutt-dev/21.7.98
Re: Hooks...Done, but one problem.
On Mon, Aug 23, 1999 at 06:29:07PM -0400, Fairlight wrote: So why won't it match on ~/folders/funnies ?? Maybe mutt doesn't expand ~ correctly ? Maybe try the full path (or $HOME) instead? CU, Sec -- "Oderint dum metuant. Let them hate so long as they fear." -- Lucius Accius (170-90 BC). One of history's earliest BOFHs.
Re: when can Mutt define custom headers?
On Fri, Aug 13, 1999 at 02:51:27AM -0230, Chris Gushue wrote: I have a problem with Mutt and two headers I am defining, X-Uptime and X-Yoda (see my headers for more). Currently, it seems that Mutt will only add these headers when it starts, and not when I send a message. I have tried using a send-hook to set it, but it still doesn't seem to work. Any ideas? [...] send-hook . my_hdr X-Uptime: `uptime` send-hook . my_hdr X-Yoda: `yoda` That's because `s are evaluated when your .muttrc is read. Maybe something like this helps: send-hook . 'my_hdr X-Uptime: `uptime`' CU, Sec -- If architects built buildings like programmers build programs, the first woodpecker to come along would destroy civilization.
Re: Feature request (or yet another brainfart by M$?)
On Wed, Aug 11, 1999 at 08:26:40PM +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: On Wed, Aug 11, 1999 at 12:56:14PM -0500, David DeSimone wrote: This is a feature of the underlying Exchange protocol. SMTP has no such feature. Hmm, but couldn't mutt support this feature? And now, for your amusement, i can inform you that it already does :-) How? Easy, simply send a new mail like this: | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: FOLDER INTERNAL DATA, IGNORE | Supersedes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Expires: Wed, 10 Aug 1999 14:00:43 +0100 (CEST) | | This is an folder internal cancel message, please ignore me :-) And have the recipient have the following line in his .muttrc: push D~S|~E\n (not tested :-) CU, Sec -- The UNIX Guru's View of Sex: # unzip ; strip ; touch ; finger ; mount ; fsck ; more ; yes ; umount ; sleep
Re: 'regular' key not bound error
Hi, first of all, please adhere to that 70 characters/line limit mail usually uses. I've take the freedom to reformat your mail. On Mon, Aug 02, 1999 at 12:44:38PM +0200, Peter Poeml wrote: Hi folks, I am successfully using mutt on AIX, with a strange problem though. In intervals of exactly 5 seconds, mutt reports a "Key is not bound"-error, as if I was pressing invalid keys but I am not. Annoyingly this is accompanied by a 'beep' every time! When I am supposed to enter text like the name of a mailbox to change to, I can even see characters appear every 5 seconds, namely a colored quotation mark like this: " If I remember this correctly, this is a bug in the curses lib you're using. Try "set timeout=0" in your muttrc. Does anyone have an idea how to fix this? I greatly appreciate any help! Installing a newer ncurses or slang lib, and linking mutt against this should help. CU, Sec P.S.: Mailinglist address corrected -- +--+ | Questions Are A Burden | | Answers Are A Prison For Oneself | +--+
Re: index_format and folder-hook
Hi,
On Sat, Jul 31, 1999 at 03:31:00PM +0200, Nikolaus Rath wrote:
hello
When i had wrote the following into my .muttrc
folder-hook sent/ set index_format="%4C %Z %{%b %d} %-15.15t (%4l) %s"
it's a quoting problem. use this:
folder-hook sent/ 'set index_format="%4C %Z %{%b %d} %-15.15t (%4l) %s"'
CU,
Sec
P.S.: isn't this in the faq ?
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Re: upgraded from 0.93 to 0.95.4i
On Wed, Jul 21, 1999 at 03:12:44PM +0200, Salvatore Greco wrote: Good day all, I upgraded from 0.93 and I used to type mutt -y and get a list of folders that I could easily monitor. When I went into the a folder, and I pressed "i" to get to the index again - it used to show the same index that I had with mutt -y. After the upgrade that no longer works - am I doing something wrong - so I need to change a setting ? You probably have/had a macro defined for the letter i. The canonical way to get to that browser is via c(hange folder) ? and then TAB Maybe you forgot to keep your .muttrc ? try inserting macro index i change-folder?tab CU, Sec -- UNIX for the masses: !--#exec cmd="/vmunix.cgi" -- -- Seen in the sdm.
Re: [0.95.6] core dump while sending mail
Hi, On Wed, Jun 16, 1999 at 05:34:03PM +0200, Gero Treuner wrote: What was the value of PidListLen? (gdb) print PidListLen $1 = 2 Hopefully the following patch fixes the problem (removed a race condition, please try to repeat your conditions ;-) ... I will use your later patch. I fear I won't be able to reproduce it, just because it happened for the first time yesterday, and I do send quite a lot of mails. CU, Sec -- The Feynman problem solving Algorithm 1) Write down the problem 2) Think real hard 3) Write down the answer
Re: mutt -y / browser question
On Mon, Jun 14, 1999 at 03:42:00PM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: Hello, It's highly probable I'm missing something somewhere, but it seems to me that if mutt is invoked via 'mutt -y' (with "mailboxes" defined in .muttrc), once you select a mailbox to work with, there is no way to get back to the "mailboxes browser" menu. I've read two mutt manuals linked off of mutt.org, and read through the FAQ. Simply hit 'c' '?' and then TAB, when coming from the index. How does one return to the "mailboxes browser" once one has selected a mailbox to view? More specifically, can this feature be found to a specific key (not a macro), as I see no "function" which gives the user the ability to jump back to the browser. No, there is no function for it, you can only use a macro for this. A related question: Is there any way to jump right into the "mailboxes browser" without using the -y command line option? E.g. something similar to a "startin" directive in .muttrc? You could try a 'push c?TAB' in your .muttrc CU, Sec -- CUSTOMER: "I'm running Windows '95."TECH: "Yes." CUSTOMER: "My computer isn't working now." TECH: "Yes, you already said that." -- (found in comp.os.linux.misc)
Re: Unfriendly terminal behaviour
On Sun, Jun 13, 1999 at 11:58:20AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: You keep thinking it's a slang problem -- it is not. The problem is not entirely slang, nor is it entirely ncurses. This is a very common thing in the "free software world." Blaming someone else for one's own problems. This is why I said I have yet to receive an answer (and still waiting). I experienced this problem in the past sometimes, but I don't have it anymore. I now use ncorses and a recent xterm. So at least it can't be (entirly) mutt's probelm if it works here. CU, Sec -- I apologise for the length of this message - Must've booted with the -vvv switch this morning ...
[0.95.6] tab wierdness
I just noticed a somewhat strange behavior of .95.6 which .95.5 did not have. Scenario: Take a Mailbox with several Mails marked as new. Position on the first one, press ENTER, and read all of them with TAB until you get taken beack to the index. With .95.5 you would now be on the message you last read. .95.6 takes you back to the message you started reading with ENTER. CU, Sec -- If a trainstation is where a train stops, what is a workstation?
Re: macro to step thru mailboxes
On Wed, May 12, 1999 at 08:59:17AM -0400, David Thorburn-Gundlach wrote: % #!/bin/sh % echo j$HOME/.jay % cat $HOME/.jay| tr -d \\012 Couldn't you simply #!/bin/sh echo -n j $HOME/.jay and be done with it? no, mutt needs an \n at the end. And If i start playing around wirth a script, I figured I can make it at least a bit robust so it doesn't fail if someone clears ~/.jay with "echo ~/.jay" :-) CU, Sec -- Treat your password like your toothbrush. Don't let anybody else use it, and get a new one every six months. --Clifford Stoll PGP signature
Re: macro to step thru mailboxes
On Wed, May 12, 1999 at 09:13:11AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stefan `Sec` Zehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] suggested: macro index I "c=TabTab`echo -n j$HOME/.jay;cat $HOME/.jay`" This does not seem to be incrementing in .jay. I think probably these shell commands are only executed when .muttrc is sourced. I tried replacing the back quotes with the shell escape (!) and I think this then incremented in .jay. But the cat command did not then work. The browser screen just flashes and is redrawn, but the reverse video bar does not step down the screen. And this is strange, because echo $JAY does work. That is, it steps the reverse video bar down the screen. I got somewhat confused here, so this above description is not an accurate account of the efforts I have made to get this thing working. I think I need more knowledge of how mutt passes commands and handles standard output. Is this something mutt can't do? So, i played around with this, and this whole thing is a bit complicated, because mutt behaves strange in a few areas. First, you noticed that .jay doesn't get incremented. This is because mutt only takes the first line it gets from an `-expansion, and only if it is a full line. I worked around this, by making a little shellsript: file $HOME/.jayscript #!/bin/sh echo j$HOME/.jay cat $HOME/.jay| tr -d \\012 echo which has to be set executable (chmod a+x .jayscript) it eliminates all newlines from .jay with a call to "tr" and terminates the whole with a newline itself. Also it does increment the number of j's in $HOME/.jay then mutt does `-expansion only at parse-time, not at execution-time, but we can work around this by adding another macro expansion on top (define a macro in our macro, and call this one) lastly, key-sequences are expanded, even in '-s (it seems. didn't look closer) so i had to use \t instead. so here is the final macro macro index I ':macro index \cXI "c=\t\t`$HOME/.jayscript`"'\n\cXI which works for me. Of course you need to "echo $HOME/.jay" whenever you want to restart the cycling :-) CU HTH, Sec -- Larry Wall: "Lisp has all the visual appeal of oatmeal with nail clippings thrown in."
Re: Error with checking PGP sig
On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 12:03:35PM -0700, brian moore wrote: It's still verifying it just fine, just being noisy and telling you that it's a detached signature. It's just the nature of PGP5 to behave that way. Is there any way to filter these messages or to tell PGP to shut up? Edit the PGP5 source. You can make the "/dev/null" message go away if you use a language file for PGP (see the Mutt docs). The other string, though, is handled somewhat differently and you'll actually have to patch it out of the code (look for 'PGPMSG_SEPSIG'). You could also use the 'condense_pgp' patch on my Mutt patch page (http://sec.42.org/mutt/) which has about the same effect but solves it inside mutt. CU, Sec -- I apologise for the length of this message - Must've booted with the -vvv switch this morning ...
Re: macro to step thru mailboxes
On Thu, May 06, 1999 at 10:13:48PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I did was try this macro: macro index I "c=TabTab`JAY=j$JAY ; echo $JAY`" I exported JAY through all my initialization files for my login and inter/active shells, but it still doesn't work. I think this won't work because you change the value of the variable only in a subshell (note that ` create a subshell) and thus mutt's envirnoment doesn't see the change. But you might try somethign like: macro index I "c=TabTab`echo -n j$HOME/.jay;cat $HOME/.jay`" Which uses a file to stor the 'j's. You'd have to clear this file before starting mutt, though. CU, Sec -- Dennis Ritchie: "So fsck was originally called something else" Question:"what was it called?" Dennis Ritchie: "Well, the second letter was different."
Re: Send-hook evaluated differently
On Fri, Apr 30, 1999 at 05:15:09PM -0700, Russell Van Tassell wrote: [..] set signature="/usr/bin/cat /usr/home/russell/.signature |" However, if you wanted to extend that to a send-hook, it barfs -- all of the following fail: send-hook . set signature="/usr/bin/cat /usr/home/russell/.signature |" send-hook . set signature=`/usr/bin/cat /usr/home/russell/.signature` send-hook . set signature='/usr/bin/cat /usr/home/russell/.signature |' I guess you're missing the point that you need an additional level of quoting for any of the hooks. send-hook . 'set signature="/usr/bin/cat /usr/home/russell/.signature |"' should do it. On the other hand, why don't you just use: set signature=/usr/home/russell/.signature and send-hook . "set signature=/usr/home/russell/.signature" CU, Sec -- We have always been quite clear that Win95 and Win98 are not the systems to use if you are in a hostile security environment. We recommend Windows NT for those environments. -- Paul Leach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: sending postponed messages
On Thu, Apr 29, 1999 at 06:09:00PM +0200, Renaud Colinet wrote: Hmm, mutt complains at startup: no such menu I tried 'postponed' instead of 'postpone' (the former seems more likely from what I read in the manual), but I get the same message. I wonder if it recognizes this menu (maybe a problem of version, I use version 0.91.1) I use 95.4i and it works here. So I think you migt try upgrading your mutt. CU, Sec -- The attached bug will fix that. -- Byrial Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] on mutt-dev/21.7.98
Re: Stupid question... unlimit?
On Wed, Apr 28, 1999 at 08:54:27AM -0700, Russell Van Tassell wrote: Stupid question: how the heck do I "unlimit" a limit command? Normally, I tend to like to limit message down to a certain pattern and view just those messages (to make sure I've gotten it right) and then perform a specific operation on all of those messages (eg. save them to a file or folder after I've read through them); with Mutt, this is about the last "serious" thing I've not figured out... at least, not figured out how to "undo" the limit once I don't need it anymore (I've been using a new limit based on a date sometime in the future to get my folder back, if you know what I mean... (*smirk*)). Suggestions? (I know, probably a stupid question, but this is almost brainless with Pine -- I assume it has to be just about as difficult, here). You can use any of these patterns at the limit command to effectively unlimit again: 'all' '~A' '.' or any pattern which matches no message at all. CU, Sec P.S.: this should probably be mentioned in the handbook somewhere. Or is it already ? -- Failure is not an option. It comes bundled with your Microsoft product.
Re: Automatic delete after save?
On Mon, Apr 26, 1999 at 12:48:46PM -0500, David DeSimone wrote: Stephen Maher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want mutt to automatically delete messages that I save. Seems simple, but after a couple of runs through the docs I still haven't found a way to do it. Um... Mutt always deletes messages after saving them. It's always done that. And if it didn't, you could do: bind index v save-message macro index s ":set noresolve\nd:set resolve\nv" or even better (as mutt can access funtions without binding them: macro index s ":set noresolve\nd:set resolve\nsave-message" CU, Sec - WHAT am I doing here ?Solving hypothetical problems ? Gotta zzz now. -- Black holes are where GOD is dividing by zero
Re: limit question
On Fri, Apr 16, 1999 at 06:38:17PM -0700, Robert Chien wrote: This is good, but wouldn't it be more intuitive to show me all messages when the limit is blank? developers, would you consider this? We had this discussion already. I then wrote a patch to do this (for .89 - you could get it from http://sec.42.org/mutt/old/patch-0.89.sec.empty_limit.1 I don't know if it still works) Further discussion showed that more people prefer the current behavior, and you always can add a macro to do "l all\n" to your favourite keybinding. CU, Sec -- Win16, Win32s, Win32c, Win32 - Which API do you want to go today?
Re: current message in shell command
On Sun, Apr 11, 1999 at 11:58:13AM +0200, Holger Eitzenberger wrote: Probably i am just too dumb to read but i didn't find the solution after looking at the manual. Any hints? As someone else said, you have to set 'ispell' to the correct value, then execute the ispell function. I have the following in my .muttrc: # ispell in german or english. Dont check quoted Text thus. macro compose i ":set ispell=newsbody-ispell\nispell" "ispell-english" macro compose I ":set ispell=newsbody-ispell-d\nispell" "ispell-deutsch" and in my ~/bin directory: newsbody-ispell: #!/bin/sh newsbody -hqs -n $2 -p ispell -- -x %f and newsbody-ispell-d: #!/bin/sh newsbody -hqs -n $2 -p ispell -- -d deutsch -x %f Where newsbody is a small program which strips quoted lines before passing them to ispell. (I forgot where i got it) CU, Sec -- www.echolon.int - Finden Sie Ihre E-Mail vom letzten Jahr!
Re: using $index_format in folder-hooks
On Sat, Apr 10, 1999 at 04:22:14PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
folder-hook . set index_format="%4C %Z %{%b %d} %-15.15L (%4l) %s"
folder-hook mua set index_format="%3C %Z %{%b %d} %-15.15F (%3l) %s"
folder-hook sla set index_format="%4C %Z %{%b %d} %-15.15F (%4l) %s"
You can't set index_format in a folder-hook?
You can, but you should add proper quoting:
folder-hook . 'set index_format="%4C %Z %{%b %d} %-15.15L (%4l) %s"'
folder-hook mua 'set index_format="%3C %Z %{%b %d} %-15.15F (%3l) %s"'
folder-hook sla 'set index_format="%4C %Z %{%b %d} %-15.15F (%4l) %s"'
CU,
Sec
P.S.: this is becoming an faq, do we have an active faq maintainer ?
--
Treat your password like your toothbrush. Don't let anybody else use it,
and get a new one every six months. --Clifford Stoll
Re: mailboxes glob-ing?
On Thu, Apr 08, 1999 at 12:44:03PM +0200, Peter van Dijk wrote: Why the fuss, you say? Well.. this .lists file is also in my QMAILMFTFILE env.variable, which means qmail-inject will send my Mail-Followup-To to these mailinglists when I mail to any of them. Mutt sould add the Mail-Followup-To-Header on its own, if you hav 'lists' statements for your Mailinglists. CU, Sec -- The attached bug will fix that. -- Byrial Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] on mutt-dev/21.7.98
Re: alternate personal address and buggy folder hooks
On Mon, Apr 05, 1999 at 09:08:11PM -0700, Elad the Etarip wrote: It appears that Mutt doesn't forget folder-hook's, once they've been used, but keeps using them for each folder I access after that, in other words the folder-hooks appear to be sticky, when they shouldn't be. No. folder-hooks are intended to be 'sticky'. Instead you should use a construct like the following: folder-hook . unmy_hdr From: folder-hook mutt-users my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] folder-hook mutt-devmy_hdr From: sec+mutt-dev folder-hook pilot-unix my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] i.e. use a catch-all statement on top to reset your header. CU, Sec -- YKYBRASRTLW this beauty of an acronym parses the first time. Naaah, YKYBRTTSWYKYBAEWTLWTLW that happens. -- Bradley Dave in ASR
Re: Compressed folders
On Tue, Apr 06, 1999 at 12:28:26AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My apologies, I know this subject was treated a while ago, but I lost the mail which had this reference. I mean a pointer to a URL on info about compressed mail folders with Mutt; could anyone refresh my mind, please? The original site is http://www.spinnaker.de/mutt/ it is also available from my patch-page at http://sec.42.org/mutt/ HTH CU, Sec -- This article doesn't really cover many specifics, other than to point out that these pieces of equipment which have been labeled completely obsolete, still have value and function, and not only to the hacker. -- hir4-5.txt
[0.95.4] mega-feature
Warning Could not process message with given Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=aM3YZ0Iwxop3KEKx; micalg=pgp-md5;protocol="application/pgp-signature"
Re: metoo
On Tue, Mar 30, 1999 at 11:56:50AM +0200, Renaud Colinet wrote: Reply-To: Hi, You should keep a blank line between the headers and your mail. when i 'group-reply' to a message, mutt doesn't remove me from the recipients list, though the 'metoo' variable is not set. Is there any particular variable i should set to inform mutt of my address so that it can remove it, or am i missing something else ? Maybe you need to set $alternates (It's a regexp of all your addresses) Something like set alternates=sec@.*(camelot.de|muffin.org|42.org|musin.de) CU, Sec -- We have always been quite clear that Win95 and Win98 are not the systems to use if you are in a hostile security environment. We recommend Windows NT for those environments. -- Paul Leach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Temporary 'my_hdr'
On Sun, Mar 28, 1999 at 11:30:50AM +0200, Rejo wrote: I did what you recommended. What i have now is this: --begin send-hook . 'unmy_hdr From:' send-hook . 'unmy_hdr Reply-To:' [other send-hooks like the following two] send-hook '~t [EMAIL PROTECTED]' 'my_hdr From: Rejo [EMAIL PROTECTED]' send-hook '~t [EMAIL PROTECTED]' 'my_hdr Reply-To: Rejo [EMAIL PROTECTED]' --end This causes all the other send-hooks (like to last two above) not to be working -or at least, not all of the time. Any idea what's that i'm doing wrong here? Actually i have no idea. The following: # I hate it, but i gotta do it. send-hook . unmy_hdr From: send-hook mutt-usersmy_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] send-hook mutt-dev my_hdr From: sec+mutt-dev works fine in my .muttrc Maybe you could find a minimal .muttrc which exhibits the problem and post it, so we can further investigate ? CU, Sec -- I didn't say we *can't* do it. In fact we can. We also can calculate digits of sqrt(2) in the background, drive space shuttles, or have an AI algorithm write poems in Swahili while inside the pager. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Temporary 'my_hdr'
On Sun, Mar 28, 1999 at 05:20:19PM +0200, Rejo wrote: Eeuh... i think i have the problem. Your solution does work, but when i inserted your lines i accedently deleted on of the excisting lines. And then it is of no wonder things do no longer work as expected. Sorry about that. :-( I'm glad that it isn't a bug in mutt :-) One other question regarding these send-hooks. When i have entered the recepient and subject Mutt reads all of these send-hook lines from top to bottom? And that's why you asked me to place this unmu_hdr line in front of the others? Is this correct? I just want to understand what happens when... Yes. Send-hooks are searched (and executed) in the order they are specified in your muttrc. CU, Sec -- It's so nice to be insane, nobody asks you to explain.
Re: signature
On Sun, Mar 28, 1999 at 06:47:42PM -0500, Ayman Haidar wrote: as you know when you reply to a message, by default the signature will be appended to the end of the quoted message. This is correct. is there a way to append it to the beginning of the message, so you can type your hole message and the signature before the quoted message. No, there is currently no way to do this. I don't see a reason why this should be made possible. You want to quote the relevant parts and add your comments below. Adding the whole message below the signature only makes peole forget that they should trim the qoted message to the relevant parts. CU, Sec -- We have always been quite clear that Win95 and Win98 are not the systems to use if you are in a hostile security environment. We recommend Windows NT for those environments. -- Paul Leach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
auto_view 0.95-0.95.4 change ?
I just updated from 0.95 to 0.95.4 and now auto-view doesn't work like it used to. I have the following line in my .mailcap: image/gif; xv %s; x-mozilla-flags=internal On a Mail which contains only a body of image/gif (and no text at all) Mutt displayed an 'M' besides the mail and displayed it immedeatly on pressing enter. (without calling the pager) Now i only get an: [-- image/gif is unsupported (use 'v' to view this part) --] The ChangeLog has not been very helpfull so far. How do I get my old behaviour back ? CU, Sec -- I think the IDE issue is a good point. People with IDE hardware in their machines should be punished by making them wait to boot... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: auto_view 0.95-0.95.4 change ?
On Tue, Mar 23, 1999 at 08:34:39AM -0500, Vikas Agnihotri wrote: set implicit_autoview should do what you want, IIRC. Hm, thanks, but that only seems to be half of it. Now I get the error message: mailcap entry for type image/gif not found (and yes, it is in my .mailcap mutt-0.95 still finds it) CU, Sec -- 1. Never challenge a sysadmin to do anything you don't actually want him or her to do.
Re: mark messages with an expires date in future?
On Thu, Mar 04, 1999 at 04:09:22PM +, Einar Indridason wrote:
Yes, I was looking for an easy way within mutt to "this message will expire
at this time in the future" without having to manually mess with the
'Expire: ' header. (I'm still looking :-)
You could pipe it through a small script which calles formail.
snipp
#!/bin/sh
echo -n 'In how many days shall it expire?'
read days
# create full date
date=`date -v +${days}d '+%a, %d %b %Y %T +0100 (%Z)'`
# Add header to mail and send locally.
formail -I "Expires: $date" |mail.local $USER
snapp
and then call it from mutt (nopipe_decode) with '|set_expire\nd'
Which should call the script, and delete the old mail (it should be put
again in your mailbox via the mail.local)
Watch out, if you are not useing an BSD-type system, your mail.local
could have a different name.
beware, this is untested :-)
Regarding the other question, uninterpreted, raw output, the suggestion:
:set nopipe_decode
|less
does what I wanted. Now I would like to bind this "|less" function to a
key. Any suggestions? (I am reading the manual, and might find the answer
soon, but if you have an answer to this, and aren't doing anything
important... hint, hint :-)
macro index V '|less\n'
macro pager V '|less\n'
requires you to have pipe_decode turned off all the time.
If you want it turned on all the time you coud do something like:
macro index V ':set nopipedecode\n|less\n:set pipe_decode\n'
macro pager V ':set nopipedecode\n|less\n:set pipe_decode\n'
CU,
Sec
--
I apologise for the length of this message - Must've booted with the
-vvv switch this morning ...
Re: deleted box
On Wed, Feb 17, 1999 at 12:39:20PM -0800, Daniel Eisenbud wrote: However, the potential saving of messages multiple times is annoying, still, and will not be infrequent in really busy mailboxes. However, I don't want to do this whole operation with signals blocked. But I gather that we're not supposed to keep the mailbox locked with signals unblocked, right? Aargh! Can someone enlighten me on the issues involved with that? I'd just set a flag in each message to true when it was successfully saved to trash. That way you can skip them on the second try. That then gives you the possibility to have an 'delete to trash' and an 'really delete' op. CU, Sec -- It's so nice to be insane, nobody asks you to explain.
Re: send-hook bug?
Warning Could not process message with given Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE; micalg=pgp-md5;protocol="application/pgp-signature"
Re: mailing list madness
On Sat, Feb 06, 1999 at 09:55:23PM -0600, David DeSimone wrote: Maybe I should start using group-reply at all times, but that gives the old dupe-message problem, solved only if the remote users uses Mutt (or some sort of de-duping agent; most don't). not completely correct. Mutt uses 'Mail-Followup-To:' to suppress copies to you if the sseennddeerr wishes it (by including the Mailinglist in his 'lists' settings.) which is the right way [tm]. Well, whatever. I'll keep list-replying for now. And I will keep group-replying :) [see, you don't receive a Cc:] CU, Sec -- In 1968 it took the computing-Power of 2 C-64 to fly a rocket to the moon. Now, 1997 it takes the Power of a Pentium 133 to run Microsoft Windows 95. Something must have gone wrong.
Re: replying to this list
Warning Could not process message with given Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi; micalg=pgp-md5;protocol="application/pgp-signature"
Re: Mail transmission question
On Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 12:49:01PM -0500, Vikas Agnihotri wrote: If someone sends me a mail containing the sequence "\n.\n" i.e. it happens to contain a line having only a '.', the mail gets chopped off at that point i.e. my external ATT MTA treats the '.' as end-of-mail. If I remember that correctly, on every MTA-MTA or MUA-MTA conversation, the sender is required to quote such lines by appending a '.' and the receiver is supposed to remove it again. So it seems like the MTA which speaks to your ATT MTA is broken (IMHO) Is that right? What is the the sending MTA/MUA supposed to be doing with such lines? What does Mutt do? Mutt uses '-oi' on the sendmail commandline to tell sendmail that \n.\n on stdin is not EOF. CU, Sec -- In 1968 it took the computing-Power of 2 C-64 to fly a rocket to the moon. Now, 1997 it takes the Power of a Pentium 133 to run Microsoft Windows 95. Something must have gone wrong.
Re: to/cc/bcc address entry bug
On Mon, Jan 18, 1999 at 09:00:53PM -0800, Joe Rhett wrote:
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] _-cursor here
If you type ", [EMAIL PROTECTED]" it works fine. But if you simple type
another e-mail address, like "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", the Cc: list is
truncated to simply:
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
.. I can't imagine that this is an intended effect.
You are wrong, this is indeed intended. Most of the Fields auto-delete
their contents if the user simply starts to type. Only if you use an
editing function, or in this case a , to signal that you want to
modify/add to the existing list, it stays.
CU,
Sec
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