Re: Need some better ideas for folder-hooks

2018-08-10 Thread David Woodfall
On Friday 10 August 2018 08:14,
Dave Woodfall  put forth the proposition:
> My ~/Mail is a local maildir mailbox, and I have quite a few
> folder-hooks, some to set different 'from' and 'sendmail' to send via
> various smtp servers and addresses and some set other properties:
>
> folder-hook .* source ~/.mutt/default
> folder-hook =Lists/* source ~/.mutt/listhook
> folder-hook =Google source ~/.mutt/google
> folder-hook =Yahoo source ~/.mutt/yahoo
> folder-hook =Paypal|Sent|Ebay|Trash|Shops|Slackware set sort=date
> ...
> etc.
>
> There are around 12 custom hooks in all. Because I was having
> problems, I also added them without the = too to see if would help.

After testing a few things it turned out that only 'from' wasn't
being set, but I changed things to use my_hdr and it seems OK so far.

Funnily enough I used to use my_hdr a long time ago but switched to
'set from'. Not sure why now, but looking at the man page it looks
like it can't be set on the fly like my_hdr.

-Dave

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Need some better ideas for folder-hooks

2018-08-10 Thread David Woodfall
My ~/Mail is a local maildir mailbox, and I have quite a few
folder-hooks, some to set different 'from' and 'sendmail' to send via
various smtp servers and addresses and some set other properties:

folder-hook .* source ~/.mutt/default
folder-hook =Lists/* source ~/.mutt/listhook
folder-hook =Google source ~/.mutt/google
folder-hook =Yahoo source ~/.mutt/yahoo
folder-hook =Paypal|Sent|Ebay|Trash|Shops|Slackware set sort=date
...
etc.

There are around 12 custom hooks in all. Because I was having
problems, I also added them without the = too to see if would help.

After a while though I find that settings aren't being applied and I
can't seem to find any clues why.

Is it the .* that's messing up the others? They seem to work fine for
a while, even with that.

If there are better ways to do this I'd be glad for any ideas.

-Dave

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emulator

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Re: weird behaviour unaliasing/sourcing aliases in folder-hooks

2016-10-06 Thread nfb
On Wed, Oct 05, 2016 at 04:42:38PM -0700, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote:
> TL;DR:
> 
> $alias_file is expanded at muttrc parsing time, not when the folder-hook
> is run.
> 
> One workaround is to defer evaluation of $alias_file by using
> \$alias_file (see https://dev.mutt.org/doc/manual.html#set-myvar).
> 
> Alternatively, you can just spell out the file in both the set and the
> source.  (literally, or perhaps by using a user-defined variable to
> reduce duplication).
> 
> Details:
> 
> Since $alias_file defaults to the value of the muttrc, essentially each
> of your hooks initially will set $alias_file and re-read the muttrc.
> They are equivalent to:
> 
>   folder-hook "foo_folder" "unalias *; set alias_file = +foo_alias; source 
> muttrc"
> 
>   folder-hook "bar_folder" "unalias *; set alias_file = +bar_alias; source 
> muttrc"
> 
>   folder-hook "last_folder" "unalias *; set alias_file = +last_alias; source 
> muttrc"
> 
> Lets say you enter foo_folder first.  This will run the first hook
> above, resourcing the muttrc and creating three new folder hooks.  So
> all the folder hooks will look like this:
> 
>   folder-hook "foo_folder" "unalias *; set alias_file = +foo_alias; source 
> muttrc"
>   folder-hook "foo_folder" "unalias *; set alias_file = +foo_alias; source 
> +foo_alias"
> 
>   folder-hook "bar_folder" "unalias *; set alias_file = +bar_alias; source 
> muttrc"
>   folder-hook "bar_folder" "unalias *; set alias_file = +bar_alias; source 
> +foo_alias"
> 
>   folder-hook "last_folder" "unalias *; set alias_file = +last_alias; source 
> muttrc"
>   folder-hook "last_folder" "unalias *; set alias_file = +last_alias; source 
> +foo_alias"
> 
> Note that mutt will not create exact duplicate folder-hooks.  So
> subsequently entering foo_folder will not create any more folder hooks
> when sourcing the muttrc.
> 
> But, when you enter bar_folder, it will add a third folder hook to every
> folder (sourcing +bar_alias), and last_folder will add a forth hook when
> entered.  After that, whichever folder you enter, the last folder hook
> will "win".

Hi Kevin,
thank you for the in-depth explanation. I now understand what was
going on under the hood. I also read about variable late expansion,
but for some reason i didn't think this was the case.
Now everything works as expected.
Thanks again for this exhaustive mail, really appreciated it.
Have a nice day!


Re: weird behaviour unaliasing/sourcing aliases in folder-hooks

2016-10-05 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
On Wed, Oct 05, 2016 at 11:38:28PM +0200, nfb wrote:
> folder-hook "some_folder" "\
> unalias *; set alias_file=/path/to/alias/file; source $alias_file"

TL;DR:

$alias_file is expanded at muttrc parsing time, not when the folder-hook
is run.

One workaround is to defer evaluation of $alias_file by using
\$alias_file (see https://dev.mutt.org/doc/manual.html#set-myvar).

Alternatively, you can just spell out the file in both the set and the
source.  (literally, or perhaps by using a user-defined variable to
reduce duplication).

Details:

Since $alias_file defaults to the value of the muttrc, essentially each
of your hooks initially will set $alias_file and re-read the muttrc.
They are equivalent to:

  folder-hook "foo_folder" "unalias *; set alias_file = +foo_alias; source 
muttrc"

  folder-hook "bar_folder" "unalias *; set alias_file = +bar_alias; source 
muttrc"

  folder-hook "last_folder" "unalias *; set alias_file = +last_alias; source 
muttrc"

Lets say you enter foo_folder first.  This will run the first hook
above, resourcing the muttrc and creating three new folder hooks.  So
all the folder hooks will look like this:

  folder-hook "foo_folder" "unalias *; set alias_file = +foo_alias; source 
muttrc"
  folder-hook "foo_folder" "unalias *; set alias_file = +foo_alias; source 
+foo_alias"

  folder-hook "bar_folder" "unalias *; set alias_file = +bar_alias; source 
muttrc"
  folder-hook "bar_folder" "unalias *; set alias_file = +bar_alias; source 
+foo_alias"

  folder-hook "last_folder" "unalias *; set alias_file = +last_alias; source 
muttrc"
  folder-hook "last_folder" "unalias *; set alias_file = +last_alias; source 
+foo_alias"

Note that mutt will not create exact duplicate folder-hooks.  So
subsequently entering foo_folder will not create any more folder hooks
when sourcing the muttrc.

But, when you enter bar_folder, it will add a third folder hook to every
folder (sourcing +bar_alias), and last_folder will add a forth hook when
entered.  After that, whichever folder you enter, the last folder hook
will "win".

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Syncing settings, different folder-hooks on different machines

2014-01-04 Thread Niels Kobschaetzki

Hi,

I sync my settings between different machines via Dropbox. I have
settings for several accounts and each in its own file. When I open a
specific inbox via a macro like
macro index f5
'change-folderimaps://acco...@mailserver.com/INBOXenter'

I use a folder-hook to source a specific account file

folder-hook 'mailserver.com' 'source ~/.mutt/account.mailserver.com'

(while .mutt is a symlink to a folder in my Dropbox)

Since those account-files are in my Dropbox-account, I don't have
passwords saved in there. But when using mutt from my personal laptop,
I'd like to source the following file:
~/.mutt_local/account.mailserver.com

because in there I have set the passwords.
Because I already have special settings for my personal laptop I have a
.muttrc on my personal laptop that sources all the appropriate files,
instead of relying solely on the muttrc in the Dropbox

It looks right now like this:
source ~/Dropbox/Dotfiles/mutt/muttrc
source ~/Dropbox/Dotfiles/mutt/sidebar
source ~/Dropbox/Dotfiles/mutt/gpg.rc
source ~/Dropbox/Dotfiles/mutt/gpg_special
auto_view text/html

I thought now that I could fit in a special file with folder-hooks that
overwrites the folder-hooks in ~/Dropbox/Dotfiles/mutt/muttrc

by adding
source ~/.mutt_local/local_folderhooks

right after sourcing ~/Dropbox/Dotfiles/mutt/muttrc

but it doesn't work. Any ideas how I could solve this?
I mean synced settings for different machines but having on one machine
separate folder-hooks for the accounts, so account-files with passwords
get sourced.

Thanks,

Niels


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Re: priority of send-hooks and folder-hooks

2011-05-17 Thread Michael Elkins

On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 09:53:34AM +0200, Thorsten Scherf wrote:

I did some signature configuration based on folder-hooks and send-hooks.
As default send-hook, I've choosen a specific signature that changes
based on different recipient addresses. I now want to change the
signature also based on specific holders, but it looks like the config I
did for send-hooks has preference over the folder-hook config. Is there
any way to change this behaviour?


Can you elaborate more specifically on what you want to accomplish?
It's unclear to me if you are attemping to set a specific signature per
folder that overrides your default recipient send-hooks.


priority of send-hooks and folder-hooks

2011-05-16 Thread Thorsten Scherf

I did some signature configuration based on folder-hooks and send-hooks.
As default send-hook, I've choosen a specific signature that changes
based on different recipient addresses. I now want to change the
signature also based on specific holders, but it looks like the config I
did for send-hooks has preference over the folder-hook config. Is there
any way to change this behaviour?

Cheers,
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Re: folder hooks and condition not for the first message [SOLVED]

2008-03-30 Thread Raphael Brunner
  the command next-entry is to delete from the selected message to
  bottom, not like without it, to the top message.
 
 What happens if you drop next-entry and set $resolve?
 

Exactly this works great! Thank you very much!

Have a nice Sunday. Raphael.


Re: folder hooks and condition not for the first message

2008-03-26 Thread Raphael Brunner


  the command next-entry is to delete from the selected message to
  bottom, not like without it, to the top message.
 
 What happens if you drop next-entry and set $resolve?
 
Hi Alain, I'll read it at the weekend how this work, at the moment,
I don't understand what $resolve is. But, i'll try it...

thank you for your tip.



Re: folder hooks and condition not for the first message

2008-03-25 Thread Alain Bench
Hello Raphael,

 On Friday, March 21, 2008 at 16:48:11 +0100, Raphael Brunner wrote:

 the command next-entry is to delete from the selected message to
 bottom, not like without it, to the top message.

What happens if you drop next-entry and set $resolve?


Bye!Alain.
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list replies go where the original author wanted them to go: Only to the
list, or with a private copy.


folder hooks and condition not for the first message

2008-03-21 Thread Raphael Brunner
Dear Users

I use this folder-hook at the moment:

folder-hook 999-Trash*  'macro index d 
purge-messagesync-mailboxnext-entry;   \
 macro pager d 
purge-messagesync-mailboxnext-entry'

now, the command next-entry is to delete from the selected message to
bottom, not like without it, to the top message.

this works good, only if I'm on the first message in the folder, then it
jumps after to the second. From then, it stays allways on the second, if
I press the d key. Is there any way to give a condition to the command
next-entry to ignore, if it's the first message in the box? Or is
there any better idea?

Thank you for any idea and help.
Raphael


How to limit displayed messages via folder-hooks

2007-10-06 Thread Patrick Schoenfeld
Hi,

i am reading several mailing lists (including mutt-users) and prefer to view
those folders with 'limit ~N'. But it seems not to be possible to enable this
limit for folders by default, by using folder-hooks.

Example:
folder-hook . 'limit all'
folder-hook =Mailinglisten.mutt-users 'limit ~N'

It says that limit is an unknown command. But why? According to the help texts
with '?' this is exactly the command hiding behind the keybinding 'l'. What
would I need to do in order to achieve what I want?

Thanks in advance,
Best Regards

Patrick


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Re: How to limit displayed messages via folder-hooks

2007-10-06 Thread Christian Ebert
* Patrick Schoenfeld on Saturday, October 06, 2007 at 20:33:21 +0200
 i am reading several mailing lists (including mutt-users) and prefer to view
 those folders with 'limit ~N'. But it seems not to be possible to enable this
 limit for folders by default, by using folder-hooks.
 
 Example:
 folder-hook . 'limit all'
 folder-hook =Mailinglisten.mutt-users 'limit ~N'

try:

folder-hook . 'push limitallenter'
folder-hook =Mailinglisten.mutt-users 'push limit~Nenter'

c
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Re: How to limit displayed messages via folder-hooks

2007-10-06 Thread Gary Johnson
On 2007-10-06, Patrick Schoenfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 i am reading several mailing lists (including mutt-users) and prefer to view
 those folders with 'limit ~N'. But it seems not to be possible to enable this
 limit for folders by default, by using folder-hooks.
 
 Example:
 folder-hook . 'limit all'
 folder-hook =Mailinglisten.mutt-users 'limit ~N'
 
 It says that limit is an unknown command. But why? According to the help texts
 with '?' this is exactly the command hiding behind the keybinding 'l'. What
 would I need to do in order to achieve what I want?

'limit' is a function, not a command.  folder-hooks execute commands 
not functions.  However, the 'push' and 'exec' commands will execute 
functions.  So one solution would be this:

   folder-hook =Mailinglisten.mutt-users 'push limit~NReturn'

You don't need a default hook to limit all because the limit list 
is cleared when you change folders.

Regards,
Gary


Re: How to limit displayed messages via folder-hooks

2007-10-06 Thread Christian Ebert
* Christian Ebert on Saturday, October 06, 2007 at 21:13:02 +0200
 * Patrick Schoenfeld on Saturday, October 06, 2007 at 20:33:21 +0200
 i am reading several mailing lists (including mutt-users) and prefer to view
 those folders with 'limit ~N'. But it seems not to be possible to enable this
 limit for folders by default, by using folder-hooks.
 
 folder-hook . 'push limitallenter'
actually, in this case, you don't need the default command above.

the following should suffice:
 folder-hook =Mailinglisten.mutt-users 'push limit~Nenter'

c
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Re: How to limit displayed messages via folder-hooks

2007-10-06 Thread Patrick Schoenfeld
On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 12:19:00PM -0700, Gary Johnson wrote:
 'limit' is a function, not a command.  folder-hooks execute commands 

Ahh. I understand. Thanks for pointing this out.

 not functions.  However, the 'push' and 'exec' commands will execute 
 functions.  So one solution would be this:
folder-hook =Mailinglisten.mutt-users 'push limit~NReturn'

Yep, that does the trick. Thanks for it.

 You don't need a default hook to limit all because the limit list 
 is cleared when you change folders.

Okay, thats good to know.

Thanks to all, helping me with this.

Regards,

Patrick


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Re: folder-hooks applying too often

2007-04-15 Thread Matthew Daubenspeck
On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 04:59:45PM +0200, Rado S wrote:
 =- Matthew Daubenspeck wrote on Sat 14.Apr'07 at 10:55:49 -0400 -=
 
   * Matthew Daubenspeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-04-14 09:48 -0400]:
folder-hook =INBOX   'macro index d 
save-message=INBOX.Trashenter'
   
   This hook is applied to all folders that contain =INBOX.
   
when in INBOX and INBOX.Work. However, it is using the setup in ALL
folders. Any suggestions?
   
   Add $ at the end of the mailboxname.
  
  I must have the syntax wrong, as I tried that and it makes no
  difference:
 
 Please re-check how folder-hooks work, maybe
 http://WIKI.mutt.org/?DebugConfig can help you.
 catch-all default is what you miss.

Ugh. My mistake. That fixed it and made it work perfectly. Thanks for
the link.

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folder-hooks applying too often

2007-04-14 Thread Rado S
=- Matthew Daubenspeck wrote on Sat 14.Apr'07 at 10:55:49 -0400 -=

  * Matthew Daubenspeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-04-14 09:48 -0400]:
   folder-hook =INBOX   'macro index d 
   save-message=INBOX.Trashenter'
  
  This hook is applied to all folders that contain =INBOX.
  
   when in INBOX and INBOX.Work. However, it is using the setup in ALL
   folders. Any suggestions?
  
  Add $ at the end of the mailboxname.
 
 I must have the syntax wrong, as I tried that and it makes no
 difference:

Please re-check how folder-hooks work, maybe
http://WIKI.mutt.org/?DebugConfig can help you.
catch-all default is what you miss.

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EVERY effort counts: at least to show your attitude.
You're responsible for ALL you do: you get what you give.


Re: Les clefs GPG et les folder hooks (2éme version)

2003-07-01 Thread Loïc Minier
Nicolas C. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Tue, Jul 01, 2003:

 Je cherche, en vain, à assigner une signature GPG par défaut dans
 chacun de mes folder hook. C'est à dire, par exemple, que dans mon
 hook pour ma boite toto je voudrais que tous mes mails soient signés
 automatiquement (set pgp_autosign=yes) avec ma clef GPG correspondant
 à mon email [EMAIL PROTECTED] et pour le hook de ma boite tata la
 signature GPG assignée par défaut soit [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   J'utilise les folder-hook pour changer l'affichage entre mes folders
 d'arrivées et mes folders de sent/, ça se présente ainsi :
folder-hook . 'set index_format=%3C %Z %{%b %d} %-15.15n (%3l) %s'
folder-hook 'sent/*' 'set index_format=%{%b %d} %-30.30t (%3l) %s'

   le . matche tous les fodlers et définit le comportement par
 défaut. Il suffit donc de remplacer les commandes que j'utilise par des
 commandes GPG et des commandes qui changent le ficheir de signature.


 P.S : Pourquoi mutt m'affiche t'il l'ensemble des clefs GPG que je
 posséde quand je fais signer en tant que au lieu de n'afficher que
 les clefs dont j'ai la partie secréte ?

   Je dis peut-être une grosse bêtise, mais il existe au moins la
 possibilité de signer un mail avec sa clé privée pour que les receveurs
 le vérifie avec la clé publique, et également la possibilité de crypter
 avec la clé publique de quelqu'un un mail qu'il sera le seul à pouvoir
 décrypter avec sa clé privée. Cela refléterait-il ces possibilités (je
 n'utilise que rarement GPG, et pas avec Mutt) ?


-- 
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Re: Les clefs GPG et les folder hooks (2éme version)

2003-07-01 Thread Nicolas C.
Le mardi 01 juillet 2003 à 22:33, Loïc Minier écrivait :
 
J'utilise les folder-hook pour changer l'affichage entre mes folders
  d'arrivées et mes folders de sent/, ça se présente ainsi :
 folder-hook . 'set index_format=%3C %Z %{%b %d} %-15.15n (%3l) %s'
 folder-hook 'sent/*' 'set index_format=%{%b %d} %-30.30t (%3l) %s'
 
le . matche tous les fodlers et définit le comportement par
  défaut. Il suffit donc de remplacer les commandes que j'utilise par des
  commandes GPG et des commandes qui changent le ficheir de signature.

Oui mais je cherche justement à savoir quelle serait la commande qui
permet de sélectionner la clef GPG par défaut.

Merci pour votre aide en tout cas :-)

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Re: abook and folder-hooks.

2002-10-15 Thread Jussi Ekholm

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 * Jussi Ekholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] [15.10.2002 07:14]:
 When I open abook in vim-folder, and compose a mail to some address
 selected from there (press 'm' when the cursor's on top of the
 address I want to mail), my From-header gets mangled like this:
 
 pressing 'm' in abook starts a new instance of mutt. The new
 instance doesn't know about the previously selected folder.

I suspected this to be so, but now I'm sure about this and it's always
goot to be sure about things. So the thing goes, that one launches
Mutt from within abook, which is launched within other (the first and
main one) Mutt, right? :-)

 Oh, and this brings me to additional question: how did I query for
 abook's entries from Mutt's 'To: ' prompt again? And where the hell
 it was again where I was able to specify the file to be queried in
 this situation? I hate it when I forget things.
 
 Take a look at '4.5.  External Address Queries' in your manual.

Ah indeed, thanks! And I actually appreciate answers that refers to
something, where the question is already answered; in this case,
especially, it reminds me again of how good Mutt's manual is and from
the fact, that I shouldn't be so hasty in writing a question. I should
try to find the answers myself. So, thanks again - this article of
yours was really uplifting! :-)

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Re: Color with folder-hooks and status changes

2002-06-07 Thread Joseph Ishac

 I beleive the color used depends on the *last* matching color
 index statement, so you might have to include the ~D, ~F, and ~T
 ones in your folder-hook *after* the ~f one.

No amount of reordering seemed to solve the problem, I've tried N
different combinations (likely missing the right one of course :)

However, I have run across something that does seem to work well.

The 5 commands:
folder-hook . 'color index blue black !((! ~f jishac)|~T|~F|~D)'
folder-hook =sent 'color index white black !((! ~f jishac)|~T|~F|~D)'
color index black red ~D
color index red black ~F
color index magenta black ~T

produce the desired effect.  Mind you I didn't know how to AND things
together (and a simple A  B wasn't working) so I simply applied good
ol' DeMorgan's Law to ((~f jishac)(! ~T)(! ~F)(! ~D))

If there is a more elegant solution, feel free to share ;)

Now if only the command:
color indicator red white ~F

would actually be possible ...

-Joseph



Re: Color with folder-hooks and status changes

2002-06-07 Thread John Iverson

* On Fri, 07 Jun 2002, Joseph Ishac wrote:

 No amount of reordering seemed to solve the problem, I've tried
 N different combinations (likely missing the right one of
 course :)

What I was originally thinking was not just reordering what you
had, but also moving the ~D, ~F, and ~T into your folder-hook --
something like (using ~P for from me):

folder-hook . 'color index blue black ~P; \
   color index black red ~D; \
   color index red black ~F; \
   color index magenta black ~T'

folder-hook =sent 'color index white black ~P; \
   color index black red ~D; \
   color index red black ~F; \
   color index magenta black ~T'

Or did you try that?

 However, I have run across something that does seem to work well.
 
 The 5 commands:
 folder-hook . 'color index blue black !((! ~f jishac)|~T|~F|~D)'
 folder-hook =sent 'color index white black !((! ~f jishac)|~T|~F|~D)'
 color index black red ~D
 color index red black ~F
 color index magenta black ~T
 
 produce the desired effect.  Mind you I didn't know how to AND
 things together (and a simple A  B wasn't working) so I simply
 applied good ol' DeMorgan's Law to ((~f jishac)(! ~T)(!
 ~F)(! ~D))
 
 If there is a more elegant solution, feel free to share ;)

That seems like a pretty good solution to me (maybe use the ~P as
above?).

 Now if only the command:
 color indicator red white ~F
 
 would actually be possible ...

See the indicator color question thread from a few days ago ...

-- 
John



Re: Color with folder-hooks and status changes

2002-06-07 Thread Joseph Ishac

Actually, I wasn't aware you could do that with the folder-hook command.
:)  However, I did a quick copy/paste on the lines below and it didn't
remedy the problem.  I think I'll stick with the four term expression
with the use of ~P (which I didn't know about either).

Thanks again for the help.

-Joseph

  No amount of reordering seemed to solve the problem, I've tried
  N different combinations (likely missing the right one of
  course :)
 
 What I was originally thinking was not just reordering what you
 had, but also moving the ~D, ~F, and ~T into your folder-hook --
 something like (using ~P for from me):
 
 folder-hook . 'color index blue black ~P; \
color index black red ~D; \
color index red black ~F; \
color index magenta black ~T'
 
 folder-hook =sent 'color index white black ~P; \
color index black red ~D; \
color index red black ~F; \
color index magenta black ~T'
 
 Or did you try that?
 
  However, I have run across something that does seem to work well.
  
  The 5 commands:
  folder-hook . 'color index blue black !((! ~f jishac)|~T|~F|~D)'
  folder-hook =sent 'color index white black !((! ~f jishac)|~T|~F|~D)'
  color index black red ~D
  color index red black ~F
  color index magenta black ~T
  
  produce the desired effect.  Mind you I didn't know how to AND
  things together (and a simple A  B wasn't working) so I simply
  applied good ol' DeMorgan's Law to ((~f jishac)(! ~T)(!
  ~F)(! ~D))
  
  If there is a more elegant solution, feel free to share ;)
 
 That seems like a pretty good solution to me (maybe use the ~P as
 above?).
 
  Now if only the command:
  color indicator red white ~F
  
  would actually be possible ...
 
 See the indicator color question thread from a few days ago ...
 
 -- 
 John



Re: Color with folder-hooks and status changes

2002-06-07 Thread darren chamberlain

* Joseph Ishac [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-07 15:11]:
 Actually, I wasn't aware you could do that with the folder-hook
 command.  :)  However, I did a quick copy/paste on the lines below and
 it didn't remedy the problem.  I think I'll stick with the four term
 expression with the use of ~P (which I didn't know about either).

Make sure that the lines you pasted in had nothing after the \ 's; they
need to escape the newline.

(darren)

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Re: Color with folder-hooks and status changes

2002-06-07 Thread John Iverson

* On Fri, 07 Jun 2002, Joseph Ishac wrote:

 Actually, I wasn't aware you could do that with the folder-hook
 command.  :)  However, I did a quick copy/paste on the lines
 below and it didn't remedy the problem.

Works as intended here -- maybe you had other 'color index'
commands which were interfering?

 I think I'll stick with the four term expression with the use
 of ~P (which I didn't know about either).

Cool.

 Thanks again for the help.

No problem.

-- 
John



Color with folder-hooks and status changes

2002-06-06 Thread Joseph Ishac

Hi,

I've recently noticed an issue with my attempt to color some index
entries on a per mailbox basis using the folder-hook command.

The desired effect (expressed with the snip-it below) is to color mail
from myself blue, except if I'm looking at the mbox that stores my
outbound messages.  However, if I go to tag/delete/flag one of these
messages, they do not follow the color scheme for the desired status.
Instead they remain either (blue,black) or (white,black) with respect to
whatever mbox is currently active.

The desired effect would be to have the behavior of the hooks as well as
always changing color for status changes (such as tagging, etc.)

--muttrc SNIP--
folder-hook . 'color index blue black ~f jishac'
folder-hook =sent 'color index white black ~f jishac'
color index black red ~D
color index red black ~F
color index magenta black ~T
--END SNIP--

converting [color index magenta black ~T] to 
[folder-hook . 'color index magenta black ~T'] doesn't work either, as
the message remains blue/white upon being tagged.

Any insight?  Thanks.

-Joseph



Re: Color with folder-hooks and status changes

2002-06-06 Thread John Iverson

* On Thu, 06 Jun 2002, Joseph Ishac wrote:

 The desired effect would be to have the behavior of the hooks
 as well as always changing color for status changes (such as
 tagging, etc.)

I beleive the color used depends on the *last* matching color
index statement, so you might have to include the ~D, ~F, and ~T
ones in your folder-hook *after* the ~f one.

-- 
John



folder-hooks

2002-05-31 Thread Rocco Rutte

Hi,

I have a problem with a folder-hook. Say, I've got three
folders IN.back1, IN.back2 and IN.test. If I want to take
some action for all folders except IN.back1 I use:

  folder-hook =IN\.[^b][^a][^c][^k][^1] ...

The problem is that mutt doesn't apply it to IN.test. I
guess that for IN.test it checks if the first 5 characters
after IN. are not one of b,a,c,k,1 - but 'test' is only 4
long. I guess that's the reason why it fails in this special
case while it works for all other folder names longer or
equal to 5 characters after IN..

Has anybody seen this before or am I just missing something?

I know I could copy'n'paste the set of folder-hooks for that
one affected folder and adjust the pattern...

Cheers, Rocco



Re: folder-hooks

2002-05-31 Thread Dan Boger

On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 02:27:09PM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote:
 I have a problem with a folder-hook. Say, I've got three
 folders IN.back1, IN.back2 and IN.test. If I want to take
 some action for all folders except IN.back1 I use:
 
   folder-hook =IN\.[^b][^a][^c][^k][^1] ...
 
 The problem is that mutt doesn't apply it to IN.test. I
 guess that for IN.test it checks if the first 5 characters
 after IN. are not one of b,a,c,k,1 - but 'test' is only 4
 long. I guess that's the reason why it fails in this special
 case while it works for all other folder names longer or
 equal to 5 characters after IN..

sounds to me that it's doing exactly what you told it to...  match any
folder that begins with an IN., followed by 5 chars that are not (in
order) b a c k 1 - and you're right - since test is only 4
characters, it doesn't match the not 1 section.

I think you might be better off making a general folder hook (that will
match back1 as well), then adding another folder hook (after?  before?)
that will deal with the special case.

HTH!

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Re: folder-hooks

2002-05-31 Thread Rocco Rutte

Hi,

* Dan Boger [05/31/02 14:34:37 CEST] wrote:
 On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 02:27:09PM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote:
  I have a problem with a folder-hook. Say, I've got three
  folders IN.back1, IN.back2 and IN.test. If I want to take
  some action for all folders except IN.back1 I use:

folder-hook =IN\.[^b][^a][^c][^k][^1] ...

  The problem is that mutt doesn't apply it to IN.test. I
  guess that for IN.test it checks if the first 5 characters
  after IN. are not one of b,a,c,k,1 - but 'test' is only 4
  long. I guess that's the reason why it fails in this special
  case while it works for all other folder names longer or
  equal to 5 characters after IN..

 sounds to me that it's doing exactly what you told it to...  match any
 folder that begins with an IN., followed by 5 chars that are not (in
 order) b a c k 1 - and you're right - since test is only 4
 characters, it doesn't match the not 1 section.

Yeah, that's what I was afraid of. Actually, I was somehow
missing the fact that it checks for an existing character
while 'not 1' is true for just nothing - but it's not a
character. [^1] thus is true if a) there's a character and
b) that character is not 1. If you don't understand the way
I thought...  doesn't matter: You're right.

 I think you might be better off making a general folder hook (that will
 match back1 as well), then adding another folder hook (after?  before?)
 that will deal with the special case.

It don't need even more lines in my setup. I think it should
be not too difficult to write a pattern doing what I want -
now that I'm aware of the small difference.

Thanks anyways...

Cheers, Rocco



Re: folder-hooks

2002-05-31 Thread David T-G

Rocco, et al --

...and then Rocco Rutte said...
% 
% Hi,

Hello!


% 
% * Dan Boger [05/31/02 14:34:37 CEST] wrote:
%  On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 02:27:09PM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote:
...
% 
% folder-hook =IN\.[^b][^a][^c][^k][^1] ...
...
%   guess that for IN.test it checks if the first 5 characters
%   after IN. are not one of b,a,c,k,1 - but 'test' is only 4
...
%  order) b a c k 1 - and you're right - since test is only 4
...
% while 'not 1' is true for just nothing - but it's not a
% character. [^1] thus is true if a) there's a character and
% b) that character is not 1. If you don't understand the way

Have you tried

  [^b][^a][^c][^k][^1]*

to match zero or more not-ones?


HTH  HAND

:-D
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Re: folder-hooks

2002-05-31 Thread Dan Boger

On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 08:23:14AM -0500, David T-G wrote:
 Have you tried
 
   [^b][^a][^c][^k][^1]*
 
 to match zero or more not-ones?


can't use that to negate a 1 in the 5th position...  test1 would
match because it would match 0 '1's in the 5th position, followed by a
'1'...  if you get my meaning...

just occured to me that this won't match back2 either, since it starts
with a b...

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Re: folder-hooks

2002-05-31 Thread David T-G

Dan --

...and then Dan Boger said...
% 
% On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 08:23:14AM -0500, David T-G wrote:
%  Have you tried
%  
%[^b][^a][^c][^k][^1]*
%  
%  to match zero or more not-ones?
% 
% can't use that to negate a 1 in the 5th position...  test1 would
% match because it would match 0 '1's in the 5th position, followed by a
% '1'...  if you get my meaning...

Hmmm...  So something like

  test12345 == (t)(e)(s)(t)()12345

then?  Yeah, I guess not.


% 
% just occured to me that this won't match back2 either, since it starts
% with a b...

Yeah, that's another problem that occurred to me after posting.  I had
the same sort of problem with $alternates; I'd really like to be able to
say something like

  set alternates = [^(laura*|madi|^quin*)]@justpickone.*

to match everything at a JPO site *except* other family members (yes,
I know that this leaves out webmaster and so on, which in fact *is* me
but can be thought of as not being me; anyway, it's *supposed* to be a
simple example).  Despite some (much appreciated!) attempts to come up
with a working pattern, we never figured out something that would work.


% 
% -- 
% Dan Boger
% Linux MVP
% brainbench.com
% 


HAND

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Re: folder-hooks

2002-05-31 Thread Dan Boger

On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 08:39:20AM -0500, David T-G wrote:
 % just occured to me that this won't match back2 either, since it starts
 % with a b...
 
 Yeah, that's another problem that occurred to me after posting.  I had
 the same sort of problem with $alternates; I'd really like to be able to
 say something like
 
   set alternates = [^(laura*|madi|^quin*)]@justpickone.*

what we need is like the perl lookbehind:

   (?!pattern)
 A zero-width negative lookbehind assertion.  For
 example /(?!bar)foo/ matches any occurrence of
 foo that isn't following bar.  Works only
 for fixed-width lookbehind.

so you could do

  set alternates =(?!laura|madi|quin)justpickone

but note that I had to remove the * (which I think were supposed to be
.*) - since it only works for a fixed-width string...

another by the way - having a trailing .* is a nop, just eats cpu cycles
(in a patterm match)...

:)

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Re: folder-hooks

2002-05-31 Thread Rocco Rutte

Hi,

* David T-G [05/31/02 15:23:14 CEST] wrote:

 Have you tried

   [^b][^a][^c][^k][^1]*

 to match zero or more not-ones?

See answer. I've already asked a few people how to best
solve problems like your and mine. No way. I was advised to
write a script which creates which takes all possible values
and a blacklist pattern and returns a whitelist. Regular
expressions are really great -- but not if someone wanted to
work with blacklists.

* Dan Boger [05/31/02 16:28:34 CEST] wrote:
 On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 08:39:20AM -0500, David T-G wrote:
  % just occured to me that this won't match back2 either, since it starts
  % with a b...

  Yeah, that's another problem that occurred to me after posting.  I had
  the same sort of problem with $alternates; I'd really like to be able to
  say something like

set alternates = [^(laura*|madi|^quin*)]@justpickone.*

Hey, didn't your wife read the mail for the cat? ;-)

 what we need is like the perl lookbehind:

(?!pattern)
  A zero-width negative lookbehind assertion.  For
  example /(?!bar)foo/ matches any occurrence of
  foo that isn't following bar.  Works only
  for fixed-width lookbehind.

That's worth a try.

 another by the way - having a trailing .* is a nop, just eats cpu cycles
 (in a patterm match)...

If I had as much [insert_favorite_good_here] as I have CPU
cycles waiting to be wasted...

Cheers, Rocco



problem with folder hooks

2002-04-30 Thread Nick Wilson

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Hi everyone, 
I'm having a little trouble with setting a reply-to on a specific
folder. I've commented the code below so I'm sure you can see what I'm
attempting to do:

#this is my main account
send-hook '.' my_hdr Reply-To: Nick Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

# these three appear to work but sometimes when I switch back to
# explodingnet after sending a mail from tioka I get the tioka
# signiture?
folder-hook =Tioka/nick set trash=~/Mail/Trash/tioka
folder-hook =Tioka/nick set from=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
folder-hook =Tioka/nick set signature=/home/nick/.tioka_signature

# but this little bugger's having none of it
folder-hook =Tioka/nick my_hdr Reply-To: Nick Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]


a little help would be much appreciated, cheers..

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Folder hooks are helping me make an ass of myself - need some more creative ideas

2001-10-02 Thread Louis LeBlanc

Hey folks.  I need some help here to stop making an ass of myself on
mailing lists.

First, a description of how I keep doing this:

My imap account is divided into quite a number of folders, each of
which I can have mail delivered directly into by using the 'plussed
users' format - note my From header.  This is because I subscribe to a
good number of lists - 6 at the moment - and I don't want to make Mutt
do the sorting everytime I log in.  That could take forever -
especially since some of those lists have several aliases and can be
quite heavy in traffic.

So my natural inclination was to set up a macro that automagically
sets my From, Reply-To, and To headers tied to a folder hook for each
folder.  Easy.  Works like a charm.  Except when I ask for specific
info, sometimes the person helping me chooses - often for good reason
- to reply directly to me, rather than on list.

Well, When I reply back - not with 'L' but with 'r', yep, you guessed
it, I have inappropriately brought an off list discussion back on
list, often leaving out some important context.  Very annoying.
People get quite flustered about it too.  Understandibly so.

So how can I 'smarten' mutt up a little so that the To header is not
automagically set if I hit 'r' instead of 'L'?

Thanks everyone.

PS:  Please refrain from taking this one off list so I don't prove
once again that I'm a bloody scatterbrain :)

Thanks
Lou
-- 
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Re: Folder hooks are helping me make an ass of myself - need some more creative ideas

2001-10-02 Thread Will Yardley

Louis LeBlanc wrote:
 
 Well, When I reply back - not with 'L' but with 'r', yep, you guessed
 it, I have inappropriately brought an off list discussion back on
 list, often leaving out some important context.  Very annoying.
 People get quite flustered about it too.  Understandibly so.

perhaps you should not set the 'Reply-to' or 'To' headers and just the
'From' header? that's what i do.

eg if i hit 'r' instead of 'L', my folder hook still sets the 'from'
address to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', (which is intentional - so
that follow-ups directed directly to me are at least categorized in the
correct folder)

hitting 'L' should automatically set the correct 'to' field so there's
no need to set this.  i suppose one could argue as to whether or not
setting the 'Reply-To' header to the list is a good idea; i'd just
nicely ask people to reply to the list if they accidentally reply to me
instead.

hitting 'L' should also set 'Mail-Followup-To' correctly, so assuming
other peoples' clients follow this (what other mail clients besides mutt
pay attention to this?) that should help make sure the reply is directed
appropriately.

this scheme messes me up sometimes too when i forward a message from a
list and forget to edit the header.  such is life.

w

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(send|folder)-hooks solved [was: Re: patch.my_hdr_subject]

2001-09-23 Thread Horacio

On Sat, Sep 22, 2001 at 11:59:48PM -0400, David T-G wrote:
 
 [...]
 % This doesn?t work as sendhooks seem to take precedence over
 % folderhooks.  Just an assumption.
 
 Well, yes and no; a folder-hook gets executed whenever you
 enter a matching folder, while a send-hook gets executed
 whenever you send a matching email.
 
 Have you tried defining a folder-hook that redefines your
 send-hook?

--- begin hooks file ---
unhook *

send-hook . 'unset signature'

folder-hook .   'exec   collapse-all'

[1] send-hook . 'set signature=~/.muttcf/signature/sig-all'

[2] send-hook \
.*@*\.(ar|es|cl|co|cu|cr|ho|mx|pe|ph|uy|ve|it|pt|br)$   \
'set signature=~/.muttcf/signature/sig-esp'

[3] send-hook .*@*\.(com|org|edu|)$ \
'set signature=~/.muttcf/signature/sig-misc'

[4] send-hook ^majordomo@* 'set signature='
[5] send-hook .*-(request|(un)?subscribe|list-admin)@*  \
'set signature='

[6] folder-hook box\.uni'unhook send-hook'

[7] folder-hook box\.uni\
'set signature=~/.muttcf/signature/sig-uni'
--- end hooks file ---


Now I enter any box and the signature is set according to the
address (sig-es, sig-misc ... or sig-all if there is no
match).  Then, if it´s a, say, majordomo@ address, the
signature is not included.  Next, I go into folder box.uni
and the signature included is sig-uni.

So far so good.  BUT if I now leave box.uni and compose a
message to any address, I expect to use one of [1, 2, 3, 4,
or 5] depending on the address.  Instead, [7] is used.


Ok, now it works.  I´ve added a folder-hook to [1, 2, 3, 4
and 5].  Not sure if this will get trickier as I add more
hooks, but for now it suffices.  Here is the diff for the
changes against the above hooks:


--- hooks.old   Sun Sep 23 10:37:51 2001
+++ hooks.new   Sun Sep 23 10:39:49 2001
@@ -5,17 +5,18 @@
 
 folder-hook .  'exec   collapse-all'
 
-[1] send-hook .'set signature=~/.muttcf/signature/sig-all'
+[1] foder-hook .   send-hook . \
+'set signature=~/.muttcf/signature/sig-all'
 
-[2] send-hook \
+[2] folder-hook .  send-hook \
 .*@*\.(ar|es|cl|co|cu|cr|ho|mx|pe|ph|uy|ve|it|pt|br)$  \
 'set signature=~/.muttcf/signature/sig-esp'
 
-[3] send-hook .*@*\.(com|org|edu|)$\
+[3] folder-hook .  send-hook .*@*\.(com|org|edu|)$ \
 'set signature=~/.muttcf/signature/sig-misc'
 
-[4] send-hook ^majordomo@* 'set signature='
-[5] send-hook .*-(request|(un)?subscribe|list-admin)@* \
+[4] folder-hook .  send-hook ^majordomo@* 'set signature='
+[5] folder-hook .  send-hook .*-(request|(un)?subscribe|list-admin)@*  \
 'set signature='
 
 [6] folder-hook box\.uni   'unhook send-hook'


Thank You,
-- 
Horacio



how about folder hooks?

2001-07-24 Thread Tom Foster

Hey Guys,

Thanks for the keybinding.  Works like a charm.  Now, onto the
good ole folder hook problem...

I'd like a different sig and from line, depending on what
folder I'm in when I reply or send.  I thought I would make
mutt read another config file depending on the folder, but the
line I have does not do a thing.

folder-hook =inbox$ source ~/.mutt/inbox.rc

is that even close?
-- 

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-tom



Re: how about folder hooks?

2001-07-24 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Tom Foster [mutt-users] 24/07/01 09:31 -0400: 
 
 I'd like a different sig and from line, depending on what
 folder I'm in when I reply or send.  I thought I would make
 mutt read another config file depending on the folder, but the
 line I have does not do a thing.

Use folder hooks.

 folder-hook =inbox$ source ~/.mutt/inbox.rc
 
Try quoting that.  Or try just adding the whole lot to your muttrc - like
http://www.hserus.net/muttrc.html


folder-hook . set sort=threads
folder-hook . set signature=/tmp/sig.mallet
folder-hook . 'set attribution = %n [%d]:'
folder-hook . my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Suresh Ramasubramanian)
folder-hook . my_hdr Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Suresh Ramasubramanian)
folder-hook . my_hdr Organization: The Lumber Cartel, India (tinlcI)
folder-hook . my_hdr X-Operating-System: `uname -mnrs`

folder-hook mutt unmy_hdr reply-to
folder-hook mutt 'set attribution=%n [mutt-users] %d: '

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Re: how about folder hooks?

2001-07-24 Thread Chris Fuchs

on Tue,24 Jul 2001, Tom Foster wrote:

 I'd like a different sig and from line, depending on what
 folder I'm in when I reply or send.

See the following for setting up profiles:

http://www.acoustics.hut.fi/~mara/mutt/profiles.html

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Re: how-to elimintate headers in folder-hooks

2001-04-03 Thread Mick

* Thomas Duterme [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010402 22:29]:
 Hi everyone,
 
 I'm pretty new to mutt, but I love it so far.
 
What's not to love?

 My one problem: I'd like to eliminate, or reduce headers at least in my mailboxes. 
Actually, I'ld like to if possible just keep the basic headers like Subject and From, 
rather than get the entire envelope.  Is this possible?

from `man muttrc`: 
   [un]ignore pattern [ pattern ... ]
  The  ignore  command  permits you to specify header
  fields which you usually don't wish  to  see.   Any
  header  field  whose  tag  begins with an "ignored"
  pattern will be ignored.

  The unignore command permits you to  define  excep
  tions  from  the  above  mentioned  list of ignored
  headers.


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how-to elimintate headers in folder-hooks

2001-04-02 Thread Thomas Duterme

Hi everyone,

I'm pretty new to mutt, but I love it so far.

My one problem: I'd like to eliminate, or reduce headers at least in my mailboxes. 
Actually, I'ld like to if possible just keep the basic headers like Subject and From, 
rather than get the entire envelope.  Is this possible?

TIA,
Thomas



Re: how-to elimintate headers in folder-hooks

2001-04-02 Thread Wade A. Mosely

Thomas Duterme wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 
 I'm pretty new to mutt, but I love it so far.
 
 My one problem: I'd like to eliminate, or reduce headers at least in my mailboxes. 
Actually, I'ld like to if possible just keep the basic headers like Subject and From, 
rather than get the entire envelope.  Is this possible?
 
 TIA,
 Thomas

If you mean you want to reduce what is displayed in the pager, then
you'll want to take advantage of Mutt's header weeding.  Check out the
sections of the manual dealing with that topic, especially the 'ignore'
and 'unignore' commands, the 'weed' variable, and the
'display-toggle-weed' function.

However, if you mean you want the headers actually removed from the
email, then it sounds like a job for a mail formatter like formail,
probably most conveniently invoked from a mail processor like procmail
as the messages are coming in, (that's how I do it, anyway.)

(BTW, good form requires you to limit your line length to less than 80
characters.)

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Re: how-to elimintate headers in folder-hooks

2001-04-02 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Thomas Duterme proclaimed on mutt-users that: 

 My one problem: I'd like to eliminate, or reduce headers at least in my
 mailboxes. Actually, I'ld like to if possible just keep the basic headers
 like Subject and From, rather than get the entire envelope.  Is this
 possible?

ignore *
unignorefrom: subject to cc mail-followup-to \
date x-mailer x-url

hth
--s

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EMail Sturmbannfuhrer, Lower Middle Class Unix Sysadmin



folder-hooks dont work

2001-03-21 Thread Christoph

Hi!

To have different Return-Paths set in my headers, in different 
folders I set up the following:

folder-hook {imaphost}myfolder 'my_hdr Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]'

When I hit m to compose a mail, it seems as it would work. With 
header editing enabled I can see the Return-Path is set correct. But 
then after I hit y to finaly send the mail the Return-Path is changed 
to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
There are no send-hooks in my .muttrc. For a test I set up different 
 From headers or different .signatures and they won't be overwritten, 
only the Return-Path.
Frustrated I tried to set the my_hdr stuff in single quotes, doubles 
or without quotes without a different result.
For now two days I try to track the problem down but I am still clueless.
I am using mutt 1.2.5i on OpenBSD 2.7 (i386). Help needed.

Thank you in advance.
Christoph



Re: folder-hooks dont work

2001-03-21 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Christoph proclaimed on mutt-users that: 

 To have different Return-Paths set in my headers, in different 
 folders I set up the following:
 folder-hook {imaphost}myfolder 'my_hdr Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 
 No damned use this way.  You set the envelope (and hence the return path)
 using the set sendmail option in older mutts and the set envelope_from in
 newer mutts.

 For now two days I try to track the problem down but I am still clueless.
 I am using mutt 1.2.5i on OpenBSD 2.7 (i386). Help needed.
 
 You might get a clue from the fact that the return path is set by the mail
 server - and may be altered by any mailserver in the path (such as a list
 server, say)
 
-s

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Re: folder-hooks dont work

2001-03-21 Thread Christoph

On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 06:56:27PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
 
  folder-hook {imaphost}myfolder 'my_hdr Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  
  No damned use this way.  You set the envelope (and hence the return path)
  using the set sendmail option in older mutts and the set envelope_from in
  newer mutts.
 
Problem solved. thanks!

Christoph



IMAP folder hooks and other troubles

2001-01-30 Thread Conor Daly

I run mutt (1.0.1i) on a local mail host (using mbox mailboxes)and use a number 
of folder hooks as follows:

folder-hook =Lists/Mutt-users 'macro index leftchange-folder?tab9enter'

This works fine.  I now try to use mutt (1.2.5i) over imap to the same box and have
the following folder hook

folder-hook '{hobbiton}Mail/Lists/Mutt-users' 'macro index 
leftchange-folder?tab10enter'

where {hobbiton}Mail/Lists/Mutt-users in the browser gets me into the
correct mailbox.  Ths folder hook doesn't work, in fact, I get errors on
startup 

Invalid content of \{\}

for the line in question.  If I define the macro without the folder hook,
it works fine.  If if define the folder hook like:

folder-hook Mail/Lists/Mutt-users 'macro indexleftchange-folder?tab10enter'

mutt accepts the folder hook but doesn't act on it.  Any ideas?

Second problem.  I'm using imap-4.7-5 on the server and am getting
irritating delays accessing email.  I'm in a folder and hit tab for the
next unread.  Sometimes I get it almost instantly while other times (I'm
thinking a folder refresh or something here), it takes up to 30 seconds or
so and I get these two messages:

Message 1425 UID 468 less than 1425
Message 168 UID 3481 greater than last 170

Mean anything to anyone?  Better imap server?  I don't get such delays
using M$ Outlook Express from the same client box to the same server for 
the same user.

TIA
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Re: folder-hooks with IMAP mailboxes?

2000-11-30 Thread Conor Daly

On Mon, Nov 27, 2000 at 09:06:29PM -0500 or thereabouts, Tabor J. Wells wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 27, 2000 at 08:01:29PM +,
 Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] is thought to have said:
 
  Ah, got it!
  
  use
  
  folder-hook INBOX.mutt-users set sort=thread
  
  instead so long as the folder appears in your .muttrc.
 
 Doesn't work for me with 1.3.11i.
 
 From my .muttrc:
 
 mailboxes ! {server}INBOX.mutt-users
^
What's the exclamation mark for.

 
 folder-hook INBOX.mutt-users set sort=thread
 
 and it still defaults to date-received
 
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Re: folder-hooks with IMAP mailboxes?

2000-11-30 Thread Thomas Roessler

On 2000-11-30 09:34:56 +, Conor Daly wrote:

  mailboxes ! {server}INBOX.mutt-users

 What's the exclamation mark for.

It's a short-hand for your inbox.

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Re: folder-hooks with IMAP mailboxes?

2000-11-27 Thread Bob Bell

On Sun, Nov 26, 2000 at 04:06:04PM -0500, Tabor J. Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I would have expected that:
 
 folder-hook {hostname}INBOX.mutt-users set sort=thread
 
 would work, but that apparantly is not the case. Any suggestions on what I'm
 missing?

Here's a few folder-hooks that I have set:
folder-hook . set pager_index_lines=10
folder-hook "!$" set pager_index_lines=4
folder-hook "!$" 'uncolor index "~C bobbell"'
folder-hook "!.mutt" 'color index red default "~f Roessler"'

etc. etc.

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 "There are two major products to have come out of Berkeley:
  LSD and UNIX"
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Re: folder-hooks with IMAP mailboxes?

2000-11-27 Thread Conor Daly

On Mon, Nov 27, 2000 at 07:53:33PM + or so it is rumoured hereabouts, 
Conor Daly thought:
 On Mon, Nov 27, 2000 at 12:31:28PM -0500 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, 
 Bob Bell thought:
  On Sun, Nov 26, 2000 at 04:06:04PM -0500, Tabor J. Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I would have expected that:
   
   folder-hook {hostname}INBOX.mutt-users set sort=thread
   
   would work, but that apparantly is not the case. Any suggestions on what I'm
   missing?
  
  Here's a few folder-hooks that I have set:
  folder-hook . set pager_index_lines=10
  folder-hook "!$" set pager_index_lines=4
  folder-hook "!$" 'uncolor index "~C bobbell"'
  folder-hook "!.mutt" 'color index red default "~f Roessler"'
  
 Could you post what your imap folders look like?  
 Ie. How do you translate "!.mutt" to
 "{server}Mail/whatever/the/mailbox/name/is"
 
 TIA
 
 Conor Daly
Ah, got it!

use

folder-hook INBOX.mutt-users set sort=thread

instead so long as the folder appears in your .muttrc.

Conor Daly




Re: folder-hooks with IMAP mailboxes?

2000-11-27 Thread Conor Daly

On Mon, Nov 27, 2000 at 12:31:28PM -0500 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, 
Bob Bell thought:
 On Sun, Nov 26, 2000 at 04:06:04PM -0500, Tabor J. Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I would have expected that:
  
  folder-hook {hostname}INBOX.mutt-users set sort=thread
  
  would work, but that apparantly is not the case. Any suggestions on what I'm
  missing?
 
 Here's a few folder-hooks that I have set:
 folder-hook . set pager_index_lines=10
 folder-hook "!$" set pager_index_lines=4
 folder-hook "!$" 'uncolor index "~C bobbell"'
 folder-hook "!.mutt" 'color index red default "~f Roessler"'
 
Could you post what your imap folders look like?  
Ie. How do you translate "!.mutt" to
"{server}Mail/whatever/the/mailbox/name/is"

TIA

Conor Daly




Re: folder-hooks with IMAP mailboxes?

2000-11-27 Thread Tabor J. Wells

On Mon, Nov 27, 2000 at 08:01:29PM +,
Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] is thought to have said:

 Ah, got it!
 
 use
 
 folder-hook INBOX.mutt-users set sort=thread
 
 instead so long as the folder appears in your .muttrc.

Doesn't work for me with 1.3.11i.

From my .muttrc:

mailboxes ! {server}INBOX.mutt-users

folder-hook INBOX.mutt-users set sort=thread

and it still defaults to date-received

Tabor

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folder-hooks with IMAP mailboxes?

2000-11-26 Thread Tabor J. Wells

Up until yesterday I had folder-hook statements that look like:

folder-hook =mutt-users set sort=thread

Yesterday I moved everything from local mailboxes to IMAP mailboxes at my
site and I've been unable to figure out how to get this behavior when I
enter the mailbox.

I would have expected that:

folder-hook {hostname}INBOX.mutt-users set sort=thread

would work, but that apparantly is not the case. Any suggestions on what I'm
missing?

Thanks,

Tabor

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Re: Folder Hooks

2000-05-17 Thread Charles Curley

On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 07:58:38AM +0200, Frank Derichsweiler muttered:
- On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 07:57:00PM -0600, Charles Curley wrote:
-  OK: I have some send hooks working. When I try to do analogous things with
-  folder hooks, those fail. For example:
-  
-  folder-hook =wyo_lp 'set signature=~/.signatures/conan_the_anarchist.txt'
-  folder-hook =wyo_lp 'my_hdr Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
-  
-  does not seem to work, where
-  
-  I am testing by going into the appropriate folder, then starting a new
-  email with "m". 
- 
- Some ideas:
- * Do you have some other folder-hooks in your muttrc? IMHO *all*
- matching ones are executed. E.g. a folder-hook . unmy_hdr reply-to
- later in the muttrc will abandon your Reply-to-address. 
- *Is the = directory properly set at that time? (muttrc is read from
- top to bottom...) 
- * Try removing the '' ticks in the 2nd one.
- 
- HTH
- Frank

Thanks, Frank, but no joy on any of these. I even commented out my
"folder-hook . ..." defaults, which are above the ondes I showed above.


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Re: Folder Hooks

2000-05-17 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Charles Curley proclaimed on mutt-users that: 

- * Do you have some other folder-hooks in your muttrc? IMHO *all*
- matching ones are executed. E.g. a folder-hook . unmy_hdr reply-to
- later in the muttrc will abandon your Reply-to-address. 

One (perhaps stupid) question - have you _defined_ mailboxes first, before
applying folder hooks?

Try something like ...

subscribe linux
subscribe spam-l
subscribe mutt

# Set options for the various mailing lists I'm on

# The mailboxes that I should check
mailboxes $MAIL =spam-l =linux =mutt =juno-post

save-hook '~f spam-l' =spam-l
save-hook '~f linux-india' =linux
save-hook '~f mutt-' =mutt

# Sort our mailboxes by date
set sort_browser=date

folder-hook spam-l 'set attribution="Talking to spam-l, thus spake %n: "'
folder-hook linux 'set attribution="%n spewed into the LI bitstream: "'
folder-hook mutt 'set attribution="%n proclaimed to mutt-users that: "'

and then add your folder-hook . 'blah blah'

As you can see from the attribution below, it works for me :)

hth
-s
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would turn up by the last quarter.  Well, I'm down to mine and it
hasn't.
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Re: Folder Hooks

2000-05-17 Thread Frank Derichsweiler

On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 07:39:38AM -0600, Charles Curley wrote:
 [Problem with folder-hook]
  
 Thanks, Frank, but no joy on any of these. I even commented out my
 "folder-hook . ..." defaults, which are above the ondes I showed above.
 
Perhaps you post your muttrc and we can look. I can prove that the
folder-hook mechanism is working in 1.2i ...

Frank




Re: Folder Hooks

2000-05-17 Thread Mikko Hänninen

Charles Curley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Wed, 17 May 2000:
 This may be a problem. I would like to use both send-hooks and folder
 hooks. I will explore further.

Mutt 1.2 has a new feature command "clear-hooks".  It should be possible
to clear all your send-hooks when entering a folder and set them
selectively, and also to have a different default send-hook for each
folder.  It may get a bit complex but theoretically it should be doable.
:-)

(Picture this: a defalt folder-hook that sets a default send-hook, and
some other send-hooks, and then some other folder-hooks that set some
other kind of default send-hook, as well as other send-hooks... May
require some care to get that working right. g)

This would be easier if there was a folder-matching operator that could
be used in send-hooks, but there isn't, so you have to make do with
what you've got.


Mikko
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Re: Folder Hooks

2000-05-17 Thread Charles Curley

On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 06:27:03PM +0300, Mikko Hänninen muttered:
- Charles Curley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tue, 16 May 2000:
-  I am testing by going into the appropriate folder, then starting a new
-  email with "m". If I provide the appropriate address for the send hook, it
-  works. If I provide a different address, the defaults are invoked. This is
-  true even when I comment out my send hooks.
- 
- I still think it might be because the send-hooks are overriding the
- settings in the folder-hook(s).  The send-hook stuff is executed every
- time you beging a new email, so if you have a default send-hook (very
- likely) that gets executed every time.  If it sets any of the same
- things that you set with a folder-hook when entering that folder, those
- settings will be overridden.

This turns out to be correct. I carefully commented out only the default
send hooks, and then use an email address that would not trigger any of
the custom ones. I got my folder hook to work.

Either I previously observed my tests incorrectly (quite possible after
many interations), or something else prevented the folder hooks from
working. Previously I did comment out all of my send hooks, not just the
default ones, and restarted mutt.


This may be a problem. I would like to use both send-hooks and folder
hooks. I will explore further.


- 
- You say that this happens even when you comment out the send-hooks, but
- did you *restart* Mutt after that?  Even if you comment the lines out
- from your .muttrc and do ":source .muttrc" then send-hooks will remain,
- you need to restart Mutt to do a full reset.
- (Or, I suppose you could use the clear-hooks command to clear all
- send-hooks, but restart is a sure way...)

I have been restarting mutt.


- 
- 
- Regards,
- Mikko
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Folder Hooks

2000-05-16 Thread Charles Curley

OK: I have some send hooks working. When I try to do analogous things with
folder hooks, those fail. For example:


folder-hook =wyo_lp 'set signature=~/.signatures/conan_the_anarchist.txt'
folder-hook =wyo_lp 'my_hdr Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]'


does not seem to work, where


send-hook '~C [EMAIL PROTECTED]' "set 
signature=~/.signatures/conan_the_anarchist.txt; \
my_hdr Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"


does work correctly.

The case is correct in the folder name.

I am testing by going into the appropriate folder, then starting a new
email with "m". If I provide the appropriate address for the send hook, it
works. If I provide a different address, the defaults are invoked. This is
true even when I comment out my send hooks.

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Re: Folder Hooks

2000-05-16 Thread Frank Derichsweiler

On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 07:57:00PM -0600, Charles Curley wrote:
 OK: I have some send hooks working. When I try to do analogous things with
 folder hooks, those fail. For example:
 
 folder-hook =wyo_lp 'set signature=~/.signatures/conan_the_anarchist.txt'
 folder-hook =wyo_lp 'my_hdr Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 
 does not seem to work, where
 
 I am testing by going into the appropriate folder, then starting a new
 email with "m". 

Some ideas:
* Do you have some other folder-hooks in your muttrc? IMHO *all*
matching ones are executed. E.g. a folder-hook . unmy_hdr reply-to
later in the muttrc will abandon your Reply-to-address. 
*Is the = directory properly set at that time? (muttrc is read from
top to bottom...) 
* Try removing the '' ticks in the 2nd one.

HTH
Frank



folder hooks and sendmailendmail

2000-02-09 Thread Raymond A. Meijer

Hi,

I can't seem to get mutt to use different sendmail settings for different
folders:

folder-hook "!" set sendmail="/usr/sbin/sendmail [EMAIL PROTECTED]"

just makes mutt beep when switching to that folder...

I thought that ANY configuration setting could be made from a folder hook?


Thanks,

Raymond

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Re: folder hooks and sendmailendmail

2000-02-09 Thread Frank Derichsweiler

On Wed, Feb 09, 2000 at 11:03:11AM +0100, Raymond A. Meijer wrote:
 I can't seem to get mutt to use different sendmail settings for different
 folders:
 
 folder-hook "!" set sendmail="/usr/sbin/sendmail [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
 
---end quoted text---

I use folder-hook FOLDERNAME 'set sendmail="SENDMAILCOMMAND "'
 ^   ^
and it works fine !

HTH
Frank



Re: folder hooks and sendmail

2000-02-09 Thread Raymond A. Meijer

On Wed, 09 Feb 2000, 13:55, Frank Derichsweiler wrote:

(sorry about that Subject header :)

  folder-hook "!" set sendmail="/usr/sbin/sendmail [EMAIL PROTECTED]"

 I use folder-hook FOLDERNAME 'set sendmail="SENDMAILCOMMAND "'
  ^   ^
 and it works fine !

...and it works fine here as well!!


Thanks a million!

Raymond

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Re: folder-hooks, (un)ignore, and From_

2000-01-23 Thread Greg Matheson

On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 01:06:13PM +0200, Mikko Hänninen wrote:

 Greg Matheson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Thu, 20 Jan 2000:
  I'm having a problem with folder hooks in which I have (un)ignore
  commands for From_ headers. 

 I remember reading somewhere that you can't (re-)ignore a header which
 you have unignored.  

That was the problem, but upgrading to 1.0.1, that problem has
gone away.

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Re: folder-hooks, (un)ignore, and From_

2000-01-20 Thread Byrial Jensen

On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 15:01:56 +0100, Byrial Jensen wrote:
 
 Except "unignore *" that just removes "*" from the ignore list
 if it is there, and else does nothing -- it doesn't remove all
 tokens from the ignore list as the manual says.

Ups, in fact it does. And "ignore *" removes all tokens from the
unignore list. Sorry for the confusion.

-- 
Byrial



folder-hooks, (un)ignore, and From_

2000-01-20 Thread Greg Matheson

I'm having a problem with folder hooks in which I have (un)ignore
commands for From_ headers. After unignoring the From_ header in
one mailbox, I can't ignore it in others. The reason I want to
see the From_ line is that I am using mutt to read my procmail
log.  This file has for each delivered email an entry showing the
`From ' and `Subject:' fields of the header and some other stuff. 

I wrote for .procmail/log:

folder-hook procmail/log'unignore "from "'

And this works. 

But because this is not turned off when you change to another
mailbox, there has to be a default 

folder-hook .   'ignore "from "'

And this works placed ahead of the other folder-hook in my
.muttrc when I first enter mutt. 

The problem is after I have changed to .procmail/log, and then to
another mailbox, it doesn't work. I get both From_ and From: lines. 

The ignore lines in my .muttrc:
 # default list of header fields to weed when displaying
 #
 ignore "from " received content- mime-version status x-status message-id
 ignore sender references return-path lines x-mailer priority precedence
 ignore x-sender reply-to mail-followup-to in-reply-to comments 
 #my list
 ignore x- date user-agent organi cc delivered-to approved-by
 ignore resent-  list- importance newsgroups errors-to followup-to
 ignore supersedes
 

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Re: folder-hooks, (un)ignore, and From_

2000-01-20 Thread Mikko Hänninen

Greg Matheson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Thu, 20 Jan 2000:
 I'm having a problem with folder hooks in which I have (un)ignore
 commands for From_ headers. After unignoring the From_ header in
 one mailbox, I can't ignore it in others.

I remember reading somewhere that you can't (re-)ignore a header which
you have unignored.  I'm not positive if that's so, but if yes, then
this is probably the source of your problem.


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Re: folder-hooks, (un)ignore, and From_

2000-01-20 Thread Byrial Jensen

On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 17:50:03 +0800, Greg Matheson wrote:
 X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7us

It might help to upgrade to Mutt 1.0.1. There have been some
fixes to ignore/unignore which make them
work better.

However don't trust the manual about this topic. Header weeding
functions this way:

Mutt stores internally two lists: the ignore list and the
unignore list. A header is ignored if and only if it matches the
ignore list and doesn't match the unignore list.

So if you have these commands:

ignore x-
unignore x-mailer

you will see x-mailer headers because it matches the unignore
list. The manual says otherwise but is wrong.

The ignore command adds its arguments to the ignore list and
removes them from the unignore list if they are there.

The unignore command adds its arguments to the unignore list and
removes them from the ignore list if they are there. 

Except "unignore *" that just removes "*" from the ignore list
if it is there, and else does nothing -- it doesn't remove all
tokens from the ignore list as the manual says.

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FAQ/Web site maintance (Was: using $index_format in folder-hooks)

1999-04-13 Thread rfi from Rich Roth

On Sat, Apr 10, 1999 at 01:58:04PM +0200, Stefan `Sec` Zehl wrote:

 P.S.: this is becoming an faq, do we have an active faq maintainer ?

Which brings up the question of what happened to the expected web site
enhancements ??   (www.mutt.org is still listing 0.95.1)

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Re: using $index_format in folder-hooks

1999-04-12 Thread Rejo

++ 10.04.1999, 16:22:14 (+0800) = [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
But I don't like the other one, which is showing the list name in the
index menu display. For example in my mua folder, I'm only getting mail
from mutt-users, so I'm losing authors' names and jsut being told the
mail is coming from mutt-users, which I already know.
[...]
folder-hook muaset index_format="%3C %Z %{%b %d} %-15.15F (%3l)
%s"

I have this in my .muttrc (snipped away some of the listnames):

folder-hook (mutt-users|other_list) 'set index_format="%4C %Z %{%b %d} %-15.15a (%4l) 
%s"'

So i think your problem is in the quotes. As a result of that Mutt
interprets the commands for the folder-hook incorrect. I suggest you try
it with line you have, but with some more quotes, like mine.

I have noticed this is more or less a FAQ. I have seen several others
(including myself) with the same kind of problems.

-Rejo. 

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Re: using $index_format in folder-hooks

1999-04-10 Thread Stefan `Sec` Zehl

On Sat, Apr 10, 1999 at 04:22:14PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 folder-hook . set index_format="%4C %Z %{%b %d} %-15.15L (%4l) %s" 
 folder-hook mua   set index_format="%3C %Z %{%b %d} %-15.15F (%3l) %s"
 folder-hook sla   set index_format="%4C %Z %{%b %d} %-15.15F (%4l) %s"
 
 You can't set index_format in a folder-hook? 

You can, but you should add proper quoting:

folder-hook . 'set index_format="%4C %Z %{%b %d} %-15.15L (%4l) %s"'
folder-hook mua   'set index_format="%3C %Z %{%b %d} %-15.15F (%3l) %s"'
folder-hook sla   'set index_format="%4C %Z %{%b %d} %-15.15F (%4l) %s"'

CU,
Sec

P.S.: this is becoming an faq, do we have an active faq maintainer ?

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alternate personal address and buggy folder hooks

1999-04-06 Thread Elad the Etarip

Hi,

Here's something I ran into today that I thought would be nice to have in 
Mutt.  The ability to specify alternate addresses for myself, so when I 
have something like:

my_hdr From: Me [EMAIL PROTECTED]

(unfortunately that is probably a real address).  When I look at
a folder of stored outbound messages I only see "Me" in the name field, 
instead of the names of the people I really sent the messages to.  If there
was some way to specify an alternate address for myself, then I could see
the names of the people to whom I sent the messages.  Is there a way to do
that now?  That I just didn't see in the documentation?


Also here's another buglette, notice my name in the message "Elad the Etarip",
it shouldn't say that, it should just say "Dale Harris" for the mutt-* 
folders.  It appears that Mutt doesn't forget folder-hook's, once they've
been used, but keeps using them for each folder I access after that, in other 
words the folder-hooks appear to be sticky, when they shouldn't be.

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Re: alternate personal address and buggy folder hooks

1999-04-06 Thread Stefan `Sec` Zehl

On Mon, Apr 05, 1999 at 09:08:11PM -0700, Elad the Etarip wrote:
   It appears that Mutt doesn't forget folder-hook's, once they've
 been used, but keeps using them for each folder I access after that, in other 
 words the folder-hooks appear to be sticky, when they shouldn't be.

No. folder-hooks are intended to be 'sticky'. Instead you should use a
construct like the following:

folder-hook .   unmy_hdr From:
folder-hook mutt-users  my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
folder-hook mutt-devmy_hdr From: sec+mutt-dev
folder-hook pilot-unix  my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

i.e. use a catch-all statement on top to reset your header.

CU,
Sec
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Naaah, YKYBRTTSWYKYBAEWTLWTLW that happens.
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Re: Using folder-hooks for mail archive

1999-02-18 Thread Michael Sanders

On Thu, Feb 18, 1999 at 04:52:22PM -0500, Douglas L. Potts wrote:
 I seem to remember a discussion a while back where someone was able to use
 folder-hooks to say--gunzip a Mail folder.  That way the messages are in
 zipped/archived type format until the folder is entered.  If this sounds
 familiar or if someone is currently doing this, I would appreciate any help in
 setting this up.
 
Take a look at http://www.rhein.de/~roland/mutt/
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