Re: temporarily modifying thread display in the index?

2013-01-16 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
* David J. Weller-Fahy dave-lists-mutt-us...@weller-fahy.com [2013-01-14 
21:31:13 -0500]:

 * Will Fiveash will.five...@oracle.com [2013-01-14 14:22 -0500]:
  Indeed, with hide_top_limited=yes I can limit the display of a
  subthread in the desired way.  I'm now using this index macro:
  
  macro index _S tag-subthreadlimit~T\ntag-subthread Display only 
  subthread
  
  with hide_top_limited=yes in my .muttrc.  Thanks for posting that tip.
 
 No worries, thanks for putting up the resulting macro... I may just be
 using that soon.
 
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Yes, very useful info. I'll certainly be using that in my configuration.
It never ceases to amaze me how configurable this MUA is!


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Re: temporarily modifying thread display in the index?

2013-01-14 Thread Will Fiveash
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 12:26:46PM -0500, David J. Weller-Fahy wrote:
 * David J. Weller-Fahy dave-lists-mutt-us...@weller-fahy.com [2013-01-11 
 12:44 -0500]:
  * Will Fiveash will.five...@oracle.com [2013-01-11 12:35 -0500]:
   On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 12:12:01PM -0500, David J. Weller-Fahy wrote:

Hrm... have you tried a combination of 'tag-subthread' and
'limit'?

   That is close but not exactly what I'm looking for.  The indentation
   level of the subtree parent is such with the thread I'm looking at
   that the thread display is still beyond the terminal window.  It would
   be perfect if mutt could also reset the indent level of the subtree
   parent to 0.
  
  Yep, sorry about the red herring: I just checked on a huge thread in
  another list and it is as you say.  It would be useful to have an option
  to reset the indent level.
 
 Ah-hah!  The herring was green!
 
 Try setting hide_top_limited when limiting to a tagged subthread.  I
 think that does what you want, and with a little scripting you could
 wrap everything into a macro.  Thanks to Marco for inspiring me to
 search through the manual for thread. ;)

Indeed, with hide_top_limited=yes I can limit the display of a subthread
in the desired way.  I'm now using this index macro:

macro index _S tag-subthreadlimit~T\ntag-subthread Display only 
subthread

with hide_top_limited=yes in my .muttrc.  Thanks for posting that tip.

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Re: temporarily modifying thread display in the index?

2013-01-14 Thread David J. Weller-Fahy
* Will Fiveash will.five...@oracle.com [2013-01-14 14:22 -0500]:
 Indeed, with hide_top_limited=yes I can limit the display of a
 subthread in the desired way.  I'm now using this index macro:
 
 macro index _S tag-subthreadlimit~T\ntag-subthread Display only 
 subthread
 
 with hide_top_limited=yes in my .muttrc.  Thanks for posting that tip.

No worries, thanks for putting up the resulting macro... I may just be
using that soon.

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Re: temporarily modifying thread display in the index?

2013-01-13 Thread David J. Weller-Fahy
* David J. Weller-Fahy dave-lists-mutt-us...@weller-fahy.com [2013-01-11 
12:44 -0500]:
 * Will Fiveash will.five...@oracle.com [2013-01-11 12:35 -0500]:
  On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 12:12:01PM -0500, David J. Weller-Fahy wrote:
   
   Hrm... have you tried a combination of 'tag-subthread' and
   'limit'?
   
  That is close but not exactly what I'm looking for.  The indentation
  level of the subtree parent is such with the thread I'm looking at
  that the thread display is still beyond the terminal window.  It would
  be perfect if mutt could also reset the indent level of the subtree
  parent to 0.
 
 Yep, sorry about the red herring: I just checked on a huge thread in
 another list and it is as you say.  It would be useful to have an option
 to reset the indent level.

Ah-hah!  The herring was green!

Try setting hide_top_limited when limiting to a tagged subthread.  I
think that does what you want, and with a little scripting you could
wrap everything into a macro.  Thanks to Marco for inspiring me to
search through the manual for thread. ;)

HTH,
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Re: temporarily modifying thread display in the index?

2013-01-11 Thread David J. Weller-Fahy
* Will Fiveash will.five...@oracle.com [2013-01-10 18:49 -0500]:
 What I'd like is a way to temporarily pull in a subthread so I can
 see the threading.  To put it another way, make some message that's
 the parent of a subthread look like the parent of the entire thread
 causing mutt to hide the rest of the entire thread (if that makes
 sense).  Can mutt do this?

Hrm... have you tried a combination of 'tag-subthread' and 'limit'?

Workflow would be something approximating the following.

- Go to first message in subthread you want to see.
- Execute tag-subthread.
- Limit to pattern ~T.

I just tried it on a subthread of this thread, and it worked, but I
don't have another thread handy which is huge enough to give it a good
workout.

HTH,
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Re: temporarily modifying thread display in the index?

2013-01-11 Thread Will Fiveash
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 12:12:01PM -0500, David J. Weller-Fahy wrote:
 * Will Fiveash will.five...@oracle.com [2013-01-10 18:49 -0500]:
  What I'd like is a way to temporarily pull in a subthread so I can
  see the threading.  To put it another way, make some message that's
  the parent of a subthread look like the parent of the entire thread
  causing mutt to hide the rest of the entire thread (if that makes
  sense).  Can mutt do this?
 
 Hrm... have you tried a combination of 'tag-subthread' and 'limit'?
 
 Workflow would be something approximating the following.
 
 - Go to first message in subthread you want to see.
 - Execute tag-subthread.
 - Limit to pattern ~T.
 
 I just tried it on a subthread of this thread, and it worked, but I
 don't have another thread handy which is huge enough to give it a good
 workout.

That is close but not exactly what I'm looking for.  The indentation
level of the subtree parent is such with the thread I'm looking at that
the thread display is still beyond the terminal window.  It would be
perfect if mutt could also reset the indent level of the subtree parent
to 0.

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Re: temporarily modifying thread display in the index?

2013-01-11 Thread David J. Weller-Fahy
* Will Fiveash will.five...@oracle.com [2013-01-11 12:35 -0500]:
 On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 12:12:01PM -0500, David J. Weller-Fahy wrote:
  
  Hrm... have you tried a combination of 'tag-subthread' and
  'limit'?
  
 That is close but not exactly what I'm looking for.  The indentation
 level of the subtree parent is such with the thread I'm looking at
 that the thread display is still beyond the terminal window.  It would
 be perfect if mutt could also reset the indent level of the subtree
 parent to 0.

Yep, sorry about the red herring: I just checked on a huge thread in
another list and it is as you say.  It would be useful to have an option
to reset the indent level.

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temporarily modifying thread display in the index?

2013-01-10 Thread Will Fiveash
Occasionally I'm involved in a very long e-mail thread such that the
threading indicators are beyond the width of my terminal window.  What
I'd like is a way to temporarily pull in a subthread so I can see the
threading.  To put it another way, make some message that's the parent
of a subthread look like the parent of the entire thread causing mutt to
hide the rest of the entire thread (if that makes sense).  Can mutt do
this?  If not, I'd like to see this feature added.

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Re: temporarily modifying thread display in the index?

2013-01-10 Thread Christian Ebert
* Will Fiveash on Thursday, January 10, 2013 at 17:47:21 -0600
 Occasionally I'm involved in a very long e-mail thread such that the
 threading indicators are beyond the width of my terminal window.  What
 I'd like is a way to temporarily pull in a subthread so I can see the
 threading.  To put it another way, make some message that's the parent
 of a subthread look like the parent of the entire thread causing mutt to
 hide the rest of the entire thread (if that makes sense).  Can mutt do
 this?  If not, I'd like to see this feature added.

Not what you want, but have you tried

set narrow_tree

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Re: temporarily modifying thread display in the index?

2013-01-10 Thread Michael Elkins

On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 12:13:06AM +, Christian Ebert wrote:

set narrow_tree


That is the only option that controls the width of the tree.  The 
alternative would be some macros that to change $index_format to 
make the subject field wider.


Re: temporarily modifying thread display in the index?

2013-01-10 Thread Brendan Cully
On Thursday, 10 January 2013 at 17:47, Will Fiveash wrote:
 Occasionally I'm involved in a very long e-mail thread such that the
 threading indicators are beyond the width of my terminal window.  What
 I'd like is a way to temporarily pull in a subthread so I can see the
 threading.  To put it another way, make some message that's the parent
 of a subthread look like the parent of the entire thread causing mutt to
 hide the rest of the entire thread (if that makes sense).  Can mutt do
 this?  If not, I'd like to see this feature added.

You could break the thread. I don't think we have a temp-break-thread
command that doesn't write the changes back to the mailbox, but it
might not be too hard to make.


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Re: temporarily modifying thread display in the index?

2013-01-10 Thread Will Fiveash
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 04:20:12PM -0800, Brendan Cully wrote:
 On Thursday, 10 January 2013 at 17:47, Will Fiveash wrote:
  Occasionally I'm involved in a very long e-mail thread such that the
  threading indicators are beyond the width of my terminal window.  What
  I'd like is a way to temporarily pull in a subthread so I can see the
  threading.  To put it another way, make some message that's the parent
  of a subthread look like the parent of the entire thread causing mutt to
  hide the rest of the entire thread (if that makes sense).  Can mutt do
  this?  If not, I'd like to see this feature added.
 
 You could break the thread. I don't think we have a temp-break-thread
 command that doesn't write the changes back to the mailbox, but it
 might not be too hard to make.

I'd tried breaking the thread but with the threading options I'm using
mutt automatically added the subtree to the existing main thread in a
place that still hid the subtree thread display.  8^/

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Austin, TX, USA


Re: temporarily modifying thread display in the index?

2013-01-10 Thread Will Fiveash
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 12:13:06AM +, Christian Ebert wrote:
 * Will Fiveash on Thursday, January 10, 2013 at 17:47:21 -0600
  Occasionally I'm involved in a very long e-mail thread such that the
  threading indicators are beyond the width of my terminal window.  What
  I'd like is a way to temporarily pull in a subthread so I can see the
  threading.  To put it another way, make some message that's the parent
  of a subthread look like the parent of the entire thread causing mutt to
  hide the rest of the entire thread (if that makes sense).  Can mutt do
  this?  If not, I'd like to see this feature added.
 
 Not what you want, but have you tried
 
 set narrow_tree

That helps, thanks.  I'd still like to have an option to temporarily
only display some subthread, hiding the rest of the thread so the
subthread parent appears the be the parent for the whole thread.

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Oracle Solaris Software Engineer
Austin, TX, USA


Re: temporarily modifying thread display in the index?

2013-01-10 Thread Will Fiveash
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 04:50:12PM -0800, Brendan Cully wrote:
 On Thursday, 10 January 2013 at 18:45, Will Fiveash wrote:
  On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 04:20:12PM -0800, Brendan Cully wrote:
   On Thursday, 10 January 2013 at 17:47, Will Fiveash wrote:
Occasionally I'm involved in a very long e-mail thread such that the
threading indicators are beyond the width of my terminal window.  What
I'd like is a way to temporarily pull in a subthread so I can see the
threading.  To put it another way, make some message that's the parent
of a subthread look like the parent of the entire thread causing mutt to
hide the rest of the entire thread (if that makes sense).  Can mutt do
this?  If not, I'd like to see this feature added.
   
   You could break the thread. I don't think we have a temp-break-thread
   command that doesn't write the changes back to the mailbox, but it
   might not be too hard to make.
  
  I'd tried breaking the thread but with the threading options I'm using
  mutt automatically added the subtree to the existing main thread in a
  place that still hid the subtree thread display.  8^/
 
 I guess you mean strict_threads=no. It seems like a bug to me that
 breaking threads doesn't break them in nonstrict mode too.

Yes, I have strict_threads=no set in my .muttrc.  Perhaps I will revisit
that setting which I set years ago and have forgotten why (probably
because some mail lists I follow have posts from broken MUAs).  Perhaps
it can set that to yes at this point?

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Oracle Solaris Software Engineer
Austin, TX, USA


Re: temporarily modifying thread display in the index?

2013-01-10 Thread Will Fiveash
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 06:54:13PM -0600, Will Fiveash wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 04:50:12PM -0800, Brendan Cully wrote:
  On Thursday, 10 January 2013 at 18:45, Will Fiveash wrote:
   On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 04:20:12PM -0800, Brendan Cully wrote:
On Thursday, 10 January 2013 at 17:47, Will Fiveash wrote:
 Occasionally I'm involved in a very long e-mail thread such that the
 threading indicators are beyond the width of my terminal window.  What
 I'd like is a way to temporarily pull in a subthread so I can see 
 the
 threading.  To put it another way, make some message that's the parent
 of a subthread look like the parent of the entire thread causing mutt 
 to
 hide the rest of the entire thread (if that makes sense).  Can mutt do
 this?  If not, I'd like to see this feature added.

You could break the thread. I don't think we have a temp-break-thread
command that doesn't write the changes back to the mailbox, but it
might not be too hard to make.
   
   I'd tried breaking the thread but with the threading options I'm using
   mutt automatically added the subtree to the existing main thread in a
   place that still hid the subtree thread display.  8^/
  
  I guess you mean strict_threads=no. It seems like a bug to me that
  breaking threads doesn't break them in nonstrict mode too.
 
 Yes, I have strict_threads=no set in my .muttrc.  Perhaps I will revisit
 that setting which I set years ago and have forgotten why (probably
 because some mail lists I follow have posts from broken MUAs).  Perhaps
 it can set that to yes at this point?

BTW, I just tried setting strict_threads=yes and breaking the subthread
and that was close to what I was looking for.  If there could be a
temp-break-thread command that could be undone when '$'yncing that would
be nice.  As it stands if I reply to or delete some of the messages in
that broken subthread those changes will be lost because I have to quit
mutt via 'x' which does not update the original mailbox.

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Re: Thread Display

2002-09-24 Thread Christian Ordig

On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 08:04:11PM -0400, PeterKorman wrote:
 Here are the gory details. Much of my communication is not through
 mailing lists. As a rule I don't go to a folder to exchange mail with 
 a particular person.
that's what I meant ... nearly nobody has one folder per person.

 I want to keep a record of everything I send.
sure ... that's what I meant with: 
# default record location
folder-hook . set record==sent

 So send gets its own folder. This is nonnegotiable. I want keep a
 record of everything I receive. I dont want to hand sort that stuff.
that's what procmail/maildrop is for.

 (maildrop switches destination folders for me just fine, but that is
 not the kind of data I'm processing.) So all my non-newsgroup
 inbound goes to 1 folder. That is also non negotiable.
well ... _everything_ not going to a mailing list goes to let's
say =inbox ?
This would simplyfy stuff a lot ... you'd need only _one_ further
folder-hook:
folder-hook =inbox set record==inbox

so everything sent from within =inbox would be recorded to =inbox.
And when replying to someone who sent a mail directly to you, it's
unlikely you're in a mailinglist folder ... isn't it?

-- 
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Germany



Re: Thread Display

2002-09-24 Thread PeterKorman

On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 01:40:27PM +0200, Christian Ordig wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 08:04:11PM -0400, PeterKorman wrote:
  Here are the gory details. Much of my communication is not through
  mailing lists. As a rule I don't go to a folder to exchange mail with 
  a particular person.
 that's what I meant ... nearly nobody has one folder per person.
 
  I want to keep a record of everything I send.
 sure ... that's what I meant with: 
 # default record location
 folder-hook . set record==sent
 
  So send gets its own folder. This is nonnegotiable. I want keep a
  record of everything I receive. I dont want to hand sort that stuff.
 that's what procmail/maildrop is for.
 
  (maildrop switches destination folders for me just fine, but that is
  not the kind of data I'm processing.) So all my non-newsgroup
  inbound goes to 1 folder. That is also non negotiable.
 well ... _everything_ not going to a mailing list goes to let's
 say =inbox ?
 This would simplyfy stuff a lot ... you'd need only _one_ further
 folder-hook:
 folder-hook =inbox set record==inbox
 
 so everything sent from within =inbox would be recorded to =inbox.
 And when replying to someone who sent a mail directly to you, it's
 unlikely you're in a mailinglist folder ... isn't it?
 

Cool! That means I can use:

   folder-hook =inbox set record==sent

to record everything I sent. Then I can generate a unique link name
via safecat and hardlink all unlinked messages in 'sent' to a link 
name in inbox.

I could skip all the perl messageID scanning and maintain threads and
a separate 'sent' record list on the fly. I like it. Thanks for
the feedback.


Regards,

JPK





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Re: Thread Display

2002-09-23 Thread Christian Ordig

On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 03:48:39AM +0200, René Clerc wrote:
 * PeterKorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [17-09-2002 19:21]:
 
  I think I can correctly interpret what you said in more than 1 way.
  So I wont try.
  
  given:
  1)message to Sally
  2)reply from Sally
  3)reply to reply from Sally.
 
 fcc-hook will store _any_ message to Sally in the folder which you
 specify (probably sally).
that's not really useful for conversations ... you'd need for everybody
a new procmail rule ... and a fcc-hook ... and you'd end up with one
folder per person ... 
 
 If you configure procmail correctly, it can deliver every message
 _from_ Sally in that same folder.
yes ... that is useful for people communicating with only 5-10 other 
guys ... 
 
I'd suggest the following:

- sort incoming mail using procmail as you'd also do normally 
  (everything coming to [EMAIL PROTECTED] goes to folder xyz and so on)
- use folder-hooks for setting record to the same folder you're
  currently in
  - example: 
# default record location
folder-hook . set record==sent
# every mail sent from inside folder =xyz is saved to =xyz
folder-hook =xyz set record==xyz
- now when there comes a message to =xyz and you reply, your answer will 
  also be stored to =xyz. Mails sent from any other folder, not having
  such a folder-hook are saved to =sent

Any further suggestions?

-- 
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Germany




Re: Thread Display

2002-09-23 Thread PeterKorman

On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 12:42:17AM +0200, Christian Ordig wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 03:48:39AM +0200, René Clerc wrote:
  * PeterKorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [17-09-2002 19:21]:
  
   I think I can correctly interpret what you said in more than 1 way.
   So I wont try.
   
   given:
   1)message to Sally
   2)reply from Sally
   3)reply to reply from Sally.
  
  fcc-hook will store _any_ message to Sally in the folder which you
  specify (probably sally).
 that's not really useful for conversations ... you'd need for everybody
 a new procmail rule ... and a fcc-hook ... and you'd end up with one
 folder per person ... 
  
  If you configure procmail correctly, it can deliver every message
  _from_ Sally in that same folder.
 yes ... that is useful for people communicating with only 5-10 other 
 guys ... 
  
 I'd suggest the following:
 
 - sort incoming mail using procmail as you'd also do normally 
   (everything coming to [EMAIL PROTECTED] goes to folder xyz and so on)
 - use folder-hooks for setting record to the same folder you're
   currently in
   - example: 
 # default record location
 folder-hook . set record==sent
 # every mail sent from inside folder =xyz is saved to =xyz
 folder-hook =xyz set record==xyz
 - now when there comes a message to =xyz and you reply, your answer will 
   also be stored to =xyz. Mails sent from any other folder, not having
   such a folder-hook are saved to =sent
 
 Any further suggestions?
 
Here is what I have:

Mailing list are fine. Everything already goes out and comes in
the mutt list folder via 
  folder hooks 
  my receive address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  the mutt mailing list sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I manage all my mailing lists the same way threading is terriffic.

Here are the gory details. Much of my communication is not through
mailing lists. As a rule I don't go to a folder to exchange mail with 
a particular person. I want to keep a record of everything I send.
So send gets its own folder. This is nonnegotiable. I want keep a
record of everything I receive. I dont want to hand sort that stuff.
(maildrop switches destination folders for me just fine, but that is
not the kind of data I'm processing.) So all my non-newsgroup
inbound goes to 1 folder. That is also non negotiable.

I haven't done it yet, but here's what I'm thinking:

I'll use perl to scan my sent folder. I'll extract all of the 
message-ID(ish) headers into a hash whose index is the message-ID
and whose data is a linked list of filenames. Now I'll scan my inbound 
folder for message-ID(ish) headers that match the ones in the hash 
I've generated (from the sent folder) and plug their filenames into 
the linked list data structure of the associated message-ID index.

Finally, my perl hash will contain all filenames of associated with
threads containing at least 2 messages, 1 of which was sent buy me.
Now I create hard links to all those filenames in a third maildir 
directory called conversations.


Am I making sense to anyone besides my self? Thanks.

Regards,

JPK


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Re: Thread Display

2002-09-18 Thread Bruno Postle

On Wed 18-Sep-2002 at 12:45:21AM -0400, PeterKorman wrote:
  
   I guess I need a kind of virtual folder that joins my outgoing
   and incoming without duplicating any data.
  
  That isn't possible with mutt
 
 I guess since I'm running on linux, with Maildir, I could brute
 force the solution by creating a hard link to all replies in my sent
 folder.  Is there any caviat associated with something like this?

I've done a bit of this (hardlinking files from two Maildir's into a
third) without any problems - It seems to work quite well, very fast
too.

Though I'm not an expert on these things.

-- 
Bruno



Thread Display

2002-09-17 Thread PeterKorman


I'm set up with mutt to bcc all sent data to
a local address that qmail puts in the proper
Maildir subdirectory. Thatz fine for mailing list posts. But
If I want to thread normal conversations, I can't see the whole
converstion without bouncing between my sent directory and
my inbox.

I set this up before I knew about set record=~/Maildir/sent/

Is there a way to thread full (non news group) conversations 
without duplicating and maintaining 2 copies of every message 
I send? Thanks.

JPK


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Re: Thread Display

2002-09-17 Thread René Clerc

Peter,

please send your questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED]!

* PeterKorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [17-09-2002 18:21]:

 Is there a way to thread full (non news group) conversations 
 without duplicating and maintaining 2 copies of every message 
 I send? Thanks.

I use procmail (which puts incoming mails in the correct folder)
in combo with fcc-hooks (which put outgoing mails in the same folder)

Is this what you meant?

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Re: Thread Display

2002-09-17 Thread PeterKorman

On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 06:43:56PM +0200, René Clerc wrote:
 Peter,
 
 please send your questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED]!
 
Oops!

 * PeterKorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [17-09-2002 18:21]:
 
  Is there a way to thread full (non news group) conversations 
  without duplicating and maintaining 2 copies of every message 
  I send? Thanks.
 
 I use procmail (which puts incoming mails in the correct folder)
 in combo with fcc-hooks (which put outgoing mails in the same folder)
 
 Is this what you meant?

I think I can correctly interpret what you said in more than 1 way.
So I wont try.

given:
1)message to Sally
2)reply from Sally
3)reply to reply from Sally.

My current method places messages 1 and 3 in my sent folder.
Message 2 goes into my inbox.

I could automatically put everything I send in both my inbox
and my sent folder.

That would solve the thread problem. But would duplicate each
message I send to 2 places.

I could automatically duplicate replies to my sent folder.
That would also solve the Thread problem with a different
duplication scenario.

I guess I need a kind of virtual folder that joins my
outgoing and incoming without duplicating any data.

Does your fcc-hooks do that? Thanks.

Regards,

[JPK]

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Re: Thread Display

2002-09-17 Thread Bruno Postle

On Tue 17-Sep-2002 at 01:20:09 -0400, PeterKorman wrote:
 
 My current method places messages 1 and 3 in my sent folder.
 Message 2 goes into my inbox.
 
 I could automatically put everything I send in both my inbox
 and my sent folder.
 
 That would solve the thread problem. But would duplicate each
 message I send to 2 places.

Personally, I have stopped using separate 'sent' and 'received'
mailboxes.  It is much more natural to group mail by context - ie. a
separate mailbox for each job, project, relative etc..

 I guess I need a kind of virtual folder that joins my outgoing and
 incoming without duplicating any data.

That isn't possible with mutt (though I _almost_ got it working by
misusing the compressed folders feature).

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Bruno



Re: Thread Display

2002-09-17 Thread René Clerc

* PeterKorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [17-09-2002 19:21]:

 On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 06:43:56PM +0200, René Clerc wrote:

  I use procmail (which puts incoming mails in the correct folder)
  in combo with fcc-hooks (which put outgoing mails in the same folder)
  
  Is this what you meant?
 
 I think I can correctly interpret what you said in more than 1 way.
 So I wont try.
 
 given:
 1)message to Sally
 2)reply from Sally
 3)reply to reply from Sally.
 
 My current method places messages 1 and 3 in my sent folder.
 Message 2 goes into my inbox.

fcc-hook will store _any_ message to Sally in the folder which you
specify (probably sally).

If you configure procmail correctly, it can deliver every message
_from_ Sally in that same folder.

 I guess I need a kind of virtual folder that joins my
 outgoing and incoming without duplicating any data.

? (is this what Bruno means?)

 Does your fcc-hooks do that? Thanks.

I think so ;)

 Regards,
 
 [JPK]

Dito,

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Re: Thread Display

2002-09-17 Thread PeterKorman

On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 06:39:08PM +0100, Bruno Postle wrote:
 On Tue 17-Sep-2002 at 01:20:09 -0400, PeterKorman wrote:
  
  My current method places messages 1 and 3 in my sent folder.
  Message 2 goes into my inbox.
  
  I could automatically put everything I send in both my inbox
  and my sent folder.
  
  That would solve the thread problem. But would duplicate each
  message I send to 2 places.
 
 Personally, I have stopped using separate 'sent' and 'received'
 mailboxes.  It is much more natural to group mail by context - ie. a
 separate mailbox for each job, project, relative etc..
 
  I guess I need a kind of virtual folder that joins my outgoing and
  incoming without duplicating any data.
 
 That isn't possible with mutt (though I _almost_ got it working by
 misusing the compressed folders feature).
 
 -- 
 Bruno

I guess since I'm running on linux, with Maildir, I could brute force
the solution by creating a hard link to all replies in my sent folder.
Is there any caviat associated with something like this? Thanks.

[JPK]

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