Re: [MLO] Re: Sync MLO with calendar (eg. iCAL)

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I too would like to be notified.
Thank you, Roberto Penzo!


On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 2:43:41 AM UTC-4, Roberto Penzo wrote:
>
> Hi Mandie.
> I've done a loto of work to get my Excel works and now I use it usefully. 
> But I sometimes discover bugs that I fix every time I discover, so I think 
> it is better for you to wait until it seems that no new bugs arise.
> I also have to update the document describing the functions, mainly for me 
> (hard to remember all the details).
>
>
> Il giorno venerdì 11 agosto 2017 15:24:30 UTC+2, Mandie Kramer ha scritto:
>>
>> Roberto, I missed your email when you said you finished. I must confess, 
>> I have no ability to make your work into an app, but I would love to learn 
>> what you've done. Mind sharing still?
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017, 3:56 AM Robyn Webb  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> adding a +1 for a sync between Calendar apps (Google and/or Apple) and 
>>> MLO.
>>>
>>> I use android and my Google Calendar is what I use to run my life.
>>>
>>> However, I like to use MLO for my plans, goals and things to do, 
>>> including scheduling when I start these things and when they are due.
>>>
>>> Having 2 apps to do all this just doesn't work.  It's inefficient and 
>>> things get lost between the 2.
>>>
>>> There is a sync between MLO (desktop) and Outlook, however this comes 
>>> with all sorts of other problems, mainly because of Outlook.  I still can't 
>>> get the Calendar sync with Google to work reliably.  
>>>
>>> The 2 key calendar & task cloud platforms are Google and iOS.  MLO 
>>> already has a cloud sync and Outlook sync.  When can we have a sync for 
>>> Tasks for Google and iOS?
>>>
>>> On Monday, 3 July 2017 19:26:02 UTC+10, Damo Skees wrote:

 I've been trying for years, but much as I love MLO, the one thing I 
 have trouble doing is scheduling my tasks.

 I know that GTD preaches against this, and I know that many 
 productivity coaches also advise against scheduling tasks. I admit that 
 I'm 
 still terrible at completing a task in the calendar even if I do schedule 
 it, but at least it's there, and it's a motivator.

 There are a few things that keep failing me on MLO / GTD that 
 scheduling would help:
 - Planning - I can't plan a series of tasks for a due date - eg. report 
 due end of week, and five subtasks across the week.
 - Overbooking - every time I get an organisational spurt, I start 
 planning out several goals for the week - invariably I overbook myself, 
 fail to complete each day, become demoralised, and just fall further back 
 as the week progresses
 - Reporting - If someone asks me "what are you doing on Thursday", GTD 
 (and MLO) doesn't give me visibility that I'll be really busy then, 
 because 
 I have deliverables on Friday. There's just a collection of tasks between 
 now and then, with no depiction of how to space them out
 - Modifying dates - Probably the reason for not scheduling tasks, is 
 that you then spend hours re-scheduling them! It's clunky in almost every 
 to-do app - manually changing a date/time without being able to see the 
 calendar underneath it. It should really be drag'n'drop.

 What I would really like, is to be able to *have scheduled tasks 
 appear in my calendar!*
 More than that - I would like to be able to *drag'n'drop* them around 
 in my calendar!

 So the flow would go something like this (and in *Gqueues*, below, it 
 does):
 - I look at my calendar for the week in my native calendar application 
 (I use MacOS ical / IOS Calendar)
 - On it, in a different colour (different Google sub-calendar, for 
 example), are some tasks I scheduled for a deliverable for end of month
 - I check my next 2-3 days, and drag them around to better fit any new 
 meetings.
 - The changes are synced back to MLO, and I check in the main projects 
 to see what that does to the due dates for each
 - I'm looking overbooked, so I postpone an internal project to next 
 week, and advise my boss
 - As the day goes on, I drag, extend, etc. these scheduled tasks in 
 ical or calendar as things change
 - As always, if my boss asks me for the forecast on a project, I can 
 look at the project view and see all the dates as I currently have them

 The trick is syncing to the native calendar app. Rather than spend huge 
 effort designing a calendar UI, interaction, etc. - why not just design an 
 API that talks to CalDAV, iCal, etc which is two-way?


 I've found three apps that do this so far:

 - Asana  - Big 
 Heavyweight, but not great in this feature.  Tasks can only be given a 
 date, not a time, so they appear as 'all day'. The ICS feed to iCAL is one 
 way, so you can view tasks in a particular day, but not move them 

Re: [MLO] Re: Sync MLO with calendar (eg. iCAL)

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On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 2:43:41 AM UTC-4, Roberto Penzo wrote:
>
> Hi Mandie.
> I've done a loto of work to get my Excel works and now I use it usefully. 
> But I sometimes discover bugs that I fix every time I discover, so I think 
> it is better for you to wait until it seems that no new bugs arise.
> I also have to update the document describing the functions, mainly for me 
> (hard to remember all the details).
>
>
> Il giorno venerdì 11 agosto 2017 15:24:30 UTC+2, Mandie Kramer ha scritto:
>>
>> Roberto, I missed your email when you said you finished. I must confess, 
>> I have no ability to make your work into an app, but I would love to learn 
>> what you've done. Mind sharing still?
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017, 3:56 AM Robyn Webb  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> adding a +1 for a sync between Calendar apps (Google and/or Apple) and 
>>> MLO.
>>>
>>> I use android and my Google Calendar is what I use to run my life.
>>>
>>> However, I like to use MLO for my plans, goals and things to do, 
>>> including scheduling when I start these things and when they are due.
>>>
>>> Having 2 apps to do all this just doesn't work.  It's inefficient and 
>>> things get lost between the 2.
>>>
>>> There is a sync between MLO (desktop) and Outlook, however this comes 
>>> with all sorts of other problems, mainly because of Outlook.  I still can't 
>>> get the Calendar sync with Google to work reliably.  
>>>
>>> The 2 key calendar & task cloud platforms are Google and iOS.  MLO 
>>> already has a cloud sync and Outlook sync.  When can we have a sync for 
>>> Tasks for Google and iOS?
>>>
>>> On Monday, 3 July 2017 19:26:02 UTC+10, Damo Skees wrote:

 I've been trying for years, but much as I love MLO, the one thing I 
 have trouble doing is scheduling my tasks.

 I know that GTD preaches against this, and I know that many 
 productivity coaches also advise against scheduling tasks. I admit that 
 I'm 
 still terrible at completing a task in the calendar even if I do schedule 
 it, but at least it's there, and it's a motivator.

 There are a few things that keep failing me on MLO / GTD that 
 scheduling would help:
 - Planning - I can't plan a series of tasks for a due date - eg. report 
 due end of week, and five subtasks across the week.
 - Overbooking - every time I get an organisational spurt, I start 
 planning out several goals for the week - invariably I overbook myself, 
 fail to complete each day, become demoralised, and just fall further back 
 as the week progresses
 - Reporting - If someone asks me "what are you doing on Thursday", GTD 
 (and MLO) doesn't give me visibility that I'll be really busy then, 
 because 
 I have deliverables on Friday. There's just a collection of tasks between 
 now and then, with no depiction of how to space them out
 - Modifying dates - Probably the reason for not scheduling tasks, is 
 that you then spend hours re-scheduling them! It's clunky in almost every 
 to-do app - manually changing a date/time without being able to see the 
 calendar underneath it. It should really be drag'n'drop.

 What I would really like, is to be able to *have scheduled tasks 
 appear in my calendar!*
 More than that - I would like to be able to *drag'n'drop* them around 
 in my calendar!

 So the flow would go something like this (and in *Gqueues*, below, it 
 does):
 - I look at my calendar for the week in my native calendar application 
 (I use MacOS ical / IOS Calendar)
 - On it, in a different colour (different Google sub-calendar, for 
 example), are some tasks I scheduled for a deliverable for end of month
 - I check my next 2-3 days, and drag them around to better fit any new 
 meetings.
 - The changes are synced back to MLO, and I check in the main projects 
 to see what that does to the due dates for each
 - I'm looking overbooked, so I postpone an internal project to next 
 week, and advise my boss
 - As the day goes on, I drag, extend, etc. these scheduled tasks in 
 ical or calendar as things change
 - As always, if my boss asks me for the forecast on a project, I can 
 look at the project view and see all the dates as I currently have them

 The trick is syncing to the native calendar app. Rather than spend huge 
 effort designing a calendar UI, interaction, etc. - why not just design an 
 API that talks to CalDAV, iCal, etc which is two-way?


 I've found three apps that do this so far:

 - Asana  - Big 
 Heavyweight, but not great in this feature.  Tasks can only be given a 
 date, not a time, so they appear as 'all day'. The ICS feed to iCAL is one 
 way, so you can view tasks in a particular day, but not move them around - 
 you have to go back to Asana for that. But they 

Re: [MLO] Sync View w/ Cloud

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Hello Lisa,
Yes, the file can be exported and imported, but it is not truly syncd in 
that any new entries will not exist on both sides, accurate? It is a one 
time upload "as is" until imported / exported from both desktop and mobile 
again? If addurate, this could become VERY confusing as there would be two 
versions of the same view, or are they syncd if using the MLO cloud, but 
only under the circumstance that one DOES pay for the MLOCloud?

Thank you 


On Wednesday, February 6, 2013 at 10:20:23 PM UTC-5, Lisa S wrote:
>
> unfortunately, no. However you can export them, put them on a thumb drive, 
> and import them.
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 6:01 PM, David Timpe  > wrote:
>
>> I'm using MLO with MLO Cloud to keep my work PC, Android phone, iPhone, 
>> iPad, and home PC sync'ed and up to date.  Most of the time I use my work 
>> PC and Android phone but was frustrated tonight on my home PC because the 
>> views I set up at work are not sync'ed to my home PC.  Is it possible to 
>> sync views with MLO cloud? 
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Re: [MLO] Sharing a branch (eg. with an assistant) - What is the current advice?

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Any updates to this? Merge files, sort, scan for dupes?  How about a 
confirmed EXPORT method? Run excels dup finder, and import clean? 


On Wednesday, December 23, 2015 at 4:09:47 PM UTC-5, Joel Azaria wrote:
>
> So, here's an update for ya:
>
> Somehow or another the entire contents of my Inbox (not Inbox folder 
> itself but everything under it including my entire speedbox structure) 
> 'got' deleted.  Pretty sure my assistant isn't daft enough to pull that 
> dumdum and you can bet your a$$ it wasnt' me.  Further insult to injury is 
> that due to the constant F9 syncing she synced past the daily backups limit 
> so can't recover from there.  I did manage to find it in a daily two days 
> back (not sure why it was two but the previous day didn't have it*) but 
> those two days held a LOT of changes and I'm finding it very difficult to 
> isolate the changes in each file.  What I need is a way to merge the files 
> and sus out duplicates.
>
> So far my direction has been to export both files to mlo xml and open them 
> in Beyond Compare.  At first glance this seems like it should be easy 
> enough but the files are don't automatically align correctly (I guess due 
> to the sheer volume of changes i.e moves/deletes) and trying to manually 
> align the start points of blocks is proving not just time consuming but 
> quite difficult as there are what appear to be duplications of lines or 
> even whole xml nodes throughout the file making figuring out the actual 
> block starts to align on a hair-pulling experience.
>
> Please please please someone tell me there's a merge tool that does this. 
>  Or at least a deduplication tool that will find exact matches... I can 
> merge both files wholesale if there's a way to sus out the thousands of 
> duplicates that will arise after.
>
> So, MLO's 1990's sync logic strikes again.  For something with so much raw 
> power and flexibility, how can there still be so many holes in it's 
> foundational basic underpinnings?  Even as they announce a $25 price tag on 
> the mobile apps (and still a license for each platform separately) to 
> accompany a $60 desktop app but yet can't assure it won't eat data nor have 
> the tools/facilities to repair such aggrievement when it happens is 
> asinine.  I (and I'm sure many others) are glad to see MLO-A v2 is out and 
> I know they are still working on it and adding features but it's been said 
> and here is more proof:  the team cannot work on just one platform at a 
> time.  MLO-A development cannot be to the detriment of the desktop or even 
> the iToy branch.   Development on all three must happen in parallel.  Now 
> that android has been refreshed to "match" the i branch they should be 
> focusing on fixing bugs and missing foundations across the entire platform 
> instead of wasting dev cycles with the cosmetic refresh they want to call 
> MLO 5.   
>
> Andrey, I hope you're listening.  Releasing MLO 5 and forcing users to pay 
> an upgrade even as 4 is still full of holes will alienate a large core of 
> your usership.  The cosmetics of 5 will not motivate anyone to upgrade and 
> frankly I think it's proven out that from mlo-a that halting dev and bug 
> fixes on a branch to favor a new major release did not garner you a lot of 
> goodwill.  I'm urging you to consider this factor heavily.  You need the 
> core users to evangelize and talk highly about MLO.  Everywhere you go on 
> the interwebz that MLO is discussed, it's rarely if ever a glowing review. 
>  It's always a tempered discussion of (I'm paraphrasing here:) "I tried it, 
> I hated it, but I went back because it's the only thing so powerful.  But 
> it's clunky and cluttered and has it's issues but if you need that power 
> you'll have to learn to deal with it."   THAT my friend is NOT glowing 
> endorsement.  That's a statement of pure compromise at best and a statement 
> of defeat and surrender at worst.  This is NOT how MLO should be discussed. 
>  This is NOT how mlo should be experienced.  This is NOT how you want to be 
> known.
>
>
> Now someone dear g-d please, tell me an easier way to merge/dedupe my .ml 
> files!!
>
>
>
> * From the sync logs I can see exactly date and time that the deletes 
> happened, but unfortunately can't tell which side initiated the deletes nor 
> how the deletes came to pass - ie was it the delete key or as a result of 
> the conflict resolution dialog - so can't tell if one of us is responsible 
> or if it was HAL that screwed up or just a glitch in The Matrix
>
> On Sunday, August 30, 2015 at 6:35:10 PM UTC-4, Joel Azaria wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Dwight, Christoph.
>>
>> I ended up sharing one branch to a separate file which her machine then 
>> syncs that file as well.  With the F9 syncing it kind of has a 90's feel to 
>> it - like I'm constantly saving a wordperfect document.  It works in so far 
>> as it functions and syncs but it's more than just a *little* cumbersome, 
>> esp. for the year 2015.
>>
>> There are ways I 

[MLO] how to save searches into one and create list

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My filters and searches seem to not be functioning properly.
I wanted all tasks related to text:348 context:@348 
Those having no 348, but 206 are populated.
I am trying to print a LIST of tasks all relating to 348 and or @348 ONLY 

Also, I cannot seem to figure out how to save the searches populated in the 
upper search list.  Perhaps I want to do several and blend them into one 
creating a list. Cant get my head around this. Help?

It would be nice to have a remote session to get some things ironed out :-)
Would pay for a virtual assistant, I NEED one anyway!! Office 365, SEO, etc

Jody Roody
Rental Homes and Boats - LakeNorman2GO
i...@lakenorman2go.com

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[MLO] Re: Does anyone use MLO for tasks, but OneNote for info? is there any easy integration between the two?

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Thank you for sharing! Onenote MLO

On Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 12:46:14 PM UTC-4, althegr...@gmail.com 
wrote:
>
> Hi Vicki (ToriMac) and others with the same question,
>
> I make extensive use of OneNote and have done so since OneNote was first 
> introduced. Yes, everything is in OneNote.
>
> I am using OneNote 2010 & MLO 4.3.3 pro for the following steps.
>
> So, Yes you can link to any place in OneNote from MLO.
> 1. In OneNote, go to the place you want to end up from MLO. Say there is a 
> sentence "The Properties of Granite".
> 2. Right click the sentence (or page, section etc).
> 3. Select option "Copy Link to Paragraph" or "Copy Link to Page" or "Copy 
> Link to Section" 
> 4. Go to MLO
> 5. Select line you want the link in.
> 6. Open the MLO Comments section of the properties area.
> 7. Right click the Comments area and Paste.
> 8. Now the Magic. Simply go to the first part of the link and insert file: 
>   -- that's all! Now the paste becomes a link!
> 9. Now from MLO, just click the link and OneNote goes to the specified 
> place. OneNote will start up if it's not already going.
>
> See if I explained the above clearly.
>
> On going from OneNote to MLO
> 1. In MLO, right click and select "Copy as" / "Copy as URL"
> 2. In OneNote, IF you just paste - you will see the link as text. (see 
> next step for correct way)
> 2. the right way. In OneNote, type something you want to click, anything. 
> 3. Now select the word(s) you typed.
> 4. With the word(s) selected, press control K (edit link).
> 5. In the dialog box, in the address field, paste the MLO link. 
> 6. Click OK
> 7. Test the new link. (a warning box comes up - click OK)
>
> This all works fine for me and hopefully you too!
>
> If the above works - leave a comment as I spent a half hour writing this 
> all out
>
> If it doesn't work - leave a comment so I can clarify the steps.
>
> Enjoy your new enhancement to MLO and OneNote (the perfect pairing)
>
> Thanks for asking the question!
>
> - Al the grey beard
>
> On Wednesday, September 30, 2015 at 3:17:04 PM UTC-7, ToriMac wrote:
>>
>> Hi have been an MLO user on and off for a while. I am currently reviewing 
>> my organising set up and wondered if there is anyone out there who can 
>> share tips on using MLO and OneNote together and if there's any integration 
>> provided between the two that I should be making use of?  Thanks Vicki
>>
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[MLO] Re: MLO - so many great things but integration lacking

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Dear Ultra,   Would you mind sharing your method of organization   TODOs 
 filters  tags contexts  etc ?   Screenshots and or personal contact?
I would appreciate it. If you do not have the time, I fully understand and 
thank you in advance.


On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 1:57:01 AM UTC-4, Ultradianguy wrote:
>
> I've just returned to MLO after 4 years of trying various other systems in 
> a GTD model.  First time around I found MLO too awkward and difficult to 
> use.  I've tried Todoist (which I like a lot but not for complex projects), 
> and Trello several others.  But they all lacked certain power, so now - I'm 
> back to MLO and this time around I've learned to use it much better and 
> learned to use the GTD Focus 4 Power (or something like that) Template. 
>  It's a really great program. I can live with the complexity and drilling 
> down through many menus to get to the features.
>
> But what I'm really frustrated with is the complete lack of integrations 
> that almost every task manager has.
>
> For instance:
> Todoinst and Trello support emailing tasks directly to a list or inbox or 
> category
> Todoist and Trello both have chrome addins that let you add tasks directly 
> from Gmail without even using the forwarded email capability.
> Todoist has a way to integrate into the Outlook window making it easier to 
> create tasks while in Outlook. 
> Both Todoist and Trello have integrations through Zapier and IFTTT and can 
> connect to OneNote as well as many other apps via those mechanisms. (And 
> OneNote lets you add tasks directly to Outlook without leaving OneNote).
>
> MLO has none of these.
> The only integration MLO has is Outlook Sync and Outlook Drag and Drop but 
> neither works well in current corporate configurations. In fact, one of the 
> biggest reasons I gave up the first time is that the Outlook sync was so 
> buggy. I tried to do two way sync with category/context matching and it 
> ended up being a big mess
> I just tried it again - if I do sync to outlook, tasks keep reappearing in 
> MLO in the inbox from Outlook even after they've been processed once within 
> MLO.  
> I'd be happy with the Drag and Drop of emails to MLO, but the link back to 
> Outlook doesn't work as has been reported by other users as well. Perhaps 
> it works under some conditions, but not in a typical corporate set up.
>
> So really where I've arrived is that the only safe thing to do is just 
> create my tasks in MLO by hand based on emails in Outlook and Gmail.  So at 
> best it's a trade off between the simplicity and superior integration of 
> Todoist and Trello and many other tools vs the tremendous power and 
> flexibility of MLO, albeit without any reliable integration with anything 
> else. 
>
> I really hope the MLO team will take this seriously.  It doesn't seem to 
> me that the Outlook integration has improved one bit since I tried it 4 
> years ago when version 4 had just come out.  In fact, it seems worse as 
> Outlook itself has changed. MLO already has the Cloud Sync.  It needs to 
> support emailing into that cloud. And genuinely robust integration with 
> Outlook. Support of IFTTT or Zapier or Gmail integration (for example via 
> Powerbot) would be great, but I could live without that if the other two 
> worked.  
>
>
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