Re: [MLO] Re: Why is MLO Cloud Sync paid?

[birdv...@gmail.com]

I have a iPhone 6s Plus, iPad Air, and Asus Android Tablet. There is
absolutely no decent task/project app I've seen that syncs across these
platformsnow made even better with push sync.

I think it is well worth it to pay for cloud service so that they can
continue to maintain it and continue to come up with future enhancements.



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On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Mario Gourgel 
wrote:

> I agree with you James,
>
> Everyone must choose the desired and sustainable business model that
> suites their own business.
>
> It was a suggestion, a desire, call it whatever you want.
>
> But we can charge in different ways so that appealing more customers/users.
>
> I think the review is a good way...not the unique, but the one I
> appreciate.
>
> There are, for sure, others.
>
> For example, prices according to packages : business package, small groups
> package (2 users, 3 users, others); still be payied but with different
> prices...I don't know.
>
> It depends on MLO business purposes.
>
> Regarding Zainan, can you please tell which feature would you like to pay
> to vote for upcoming features?
>
> I would say that I appreciate MLO app, and I expect it to be enhanced more
> and more...
>
> I am waiting for the task custom properties and calculated fields.
>
>
> A Qua, 30/11/2016, 13:56, Zainan Victor Zhou  escreveu:
>
>> +1 on charging for Cloud Service. I am also wishing to be able to pay to
>> vote for upcoming features
>>
>>
>> Zainan Victor Zhou, 周载南
>> 650-336-5691 <(650)%20336-5691>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 10:37 PM, James D  wrote:
>>
>> From the perspective of an enthusiastic user of other "dead" PIM programs
>> of the past, most notably Ecco Pro, a great outliner-based PIM program...
>> When I put my life and information and plans and schemes and goals into a
>> program like MLO, the last thing I want is for the company producing that
>> software to go belly-up.
>> MLO cloud fees are a small price to pay for being able to count on having
>> the features of this awesome program available year after year.
>>
>> For example, Google sells advertising.  That's their business model.
>> They can afford to "give away" things that help their business model, or
>> give them a competitive advantage that leads people to the part of the
>> business where they make money. At last check MLO was not in the business
>> of selling ads, just the business of providing great personal productivity
>> software on PC, Mac, and mobile platforms.  How else can MLO stay in
>> business and pay their developers if they can't make money somewhere?  I
>> guarantee you don't want to be a loyal user of a dead program from a
>> company that no longer exists.  MLO's cloud fees are reasonable enough.
>> Servers and bandwidth and people and systems to monitor them and keep them
>> up aren't free, so MLO has an expense to cover in providing the service.
>> MLO even provides us a way to sync over WiFi and other options so we are
>> not "forced" to use the cloud service.  However, being able to use cloud
>> sync is such a big productivity booster, to me it's worth paying a few
>> bucks every year or two.
>>
>> It's a small price to pay to ensure the ongoing viabiity of a program
>> whose primary agenda is to help US be more productive, without us being
>> funneled and forced into other agendas like happens with Google, Microsoft,
>> Apple, Amazon, etc.  Don't get me wrong, I love and use products from all
>> those companies.
>>
>> P.S. I'm hoping before long their might even be a "skill" developed for
>> Amazon Echo so that "Alexa, add a task to my to-do list, buy my girlfriend
>> a Seattle Sounders jersey for Christmas", and have that task added to my
>> *MLO* to-do list, instead of the lame Amazon Echo one.  Oh yes, and "Alexa,
>> add a task to buy tickets to MLS Cup at 7 pm pacific time tomorrow".
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, November 19, 2016 at 3:51:30 PM UTC-8, MG wrote:
>>
>> Andrey,
>>
>> I guess I was misunderstood.
>>
>> I did not meant that MLO would have to be free at all but, only the cloud
>> sync service.
>>
>> I do not agree of free app or whatever product, and regarding MLO would
>> not be too, since it is a good app.
>>
>> But regarding the cloud sync service, what is the main reason to keep it
>> under charge?
>>
>> I think MLO Team would have to reconsider this issue, since those who
>> bought the app or the windows version would have this cloud sync for free,
>> in my opinion.
>>
>> Because this subscriptions works like a limitation for the app in
>> everyday usage.
>>
>>
>> MG
>>
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Re: [MLO] Re: Why is MLO Cloud Sync paid?

[Mario Gourgel]

I agree with you James,

Everyone must choose the desired and sustainable business model that suites
their own business.

It was a suggestion, a desire, call it whatever you want.

But we can charge in different ways so that appealing more customers/users.

I think the review is a good way...not the unique, but the one I appreciate.

There are, for sure, others.

For example, prices according to packages : business package, small groups
package (2 users, 3 users, others); still be payied but with different
prices...I don't know.

It depends on MLO business purposes.

Regarding Zainan, can you please tell which feature would you like to pay
to vote for upcoming features?

I would say that I appreciate MLO app, and I expect it to be enhanced more
and more...

I am waiting for the task custom properties and calculated fields.


A Qua, 30/11/2016, 13:56, Zainan Victor Zhou  escreveu:

> +1 on charging for Cloud Service. I am also wishing to be able to pay to
> vote for upcoming features
>
>
> Zainan Victor Zhou, 周载南
> 650-336-5691
>
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 10:37 PM, James D  wrote:
>
> From the perspective of an enthusiastic user of other "dead" PIM programs
> of the past, most notably Ecco Pro, a great outliner-based PIM program...
> When I put my life and information and plans and schemes and goals into a
> program like MLO, the last thing I want is for the company producing that
> software to go belly-up.
> MLO cloud fees are a small price to pay for being able to count on having
> the features of this awesome program available year after year.
>
> For example, Google sells advertising.  That's their business model.  They
> can afford to "give away" things that help their business model, or give
> them a competitive advantage that leads people to the part of the business
> where they make money. At last check MLO was not in the business of selling
> ads, just the business of providing great personal productivity software on
> PC, Mac, and mobile platforms.  How else can MLO stay in business and pay
> their developers if they can't make money somewhere?  I guarantee you don't
> want to be a loyal user of a dead program from a company that no longer
> exists.  MLO's cloud fees are reasonable enough.  Servers and bandwidth and
> people and systems to monitor them and keep them up aren't free, so MLO has
> an expense to cover in providing the service.  MLO even provides us a way
> to sync over WiFi and other options so we are not "forced" to use the cloud
> service.  However, being able to use cloud sync is such a big productivity
> booster, to me it's worth paying a few bucks every year or two.
>
> It's a small price to pay to ensure the ongoing viabiity of a program
> whose primary agenda is to help US be more productive, without us being
> funneled and forced into other agendas like happens with Google, Microsoft,
> Apple, Amazon, etc.  Don't get me wrong, I love and use products from all
> those companies.
>
> P.S. I'm hoping before long their might even be a "skill" developed for
> Amazon Echo so that "Alexa, add a task to my to-do list, buy my girlfriend
> a Seattle Sounders jersey for Christmas", and have that task added to my
> *MLO* to-do list, instead of the lame Amazon Echo one.  Oh yes, and "Alexa,
> add a task to buy tickets to MLS Cup at 7 pm pacific time tomorrow".
>
>
> On Saturday, November 19, 2016 at 3:51:30 PM UTC-8, MG wrote:
>
> Andrey,
>
> I guess I was misunderstood.
>
> I did not meant that MLO would have to be free at all but, only the cloud
> sync service.
>
> I do not agree of free app or whatever product, and regarding MLO would
> not be too, since it is a good app.
>
> But regarding the cloud sync service, what is the main reason to keep it
> under charge?
>
> I think MLO Team would have to reconsider this issue, since those who
> bought the app or the windows version would have this cloud sync for free,
> in my opinion.
>
> Because this subscriptions works like a limitation for the app in everyday
> usage.
>
>
> MG
>
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[MLO] Re: More Info About Goals

[John . Smith]

IMHO, it's very very messy whatever you do.

If I'm correct, the core problem is that although MLO does have an 
underlying database field for Goal (with possible values of Week, Month, 
Year or None), there is no way of allocating any such goal to a task.

Yes you can use folders, but that only works of you're not using folders 
for something else.

Yes you can use Context Tags but that clutters up you contexts and becomes 
messy. 

MLO is already said by many to already be "too complicated" and "too 
bloated" but to my way of thinking there needs to be a way of very easily 
allocating goals to task. Like with a paint brush. This would be a very 
powerful feature. 

- Any takers?

J


On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 8:24:44 AM UTC, James D wrote:
>
> No articles or tuturials I can think of aside from the ones in MLO help 
> files, but here are some ideas to try out.
>
> For the longest time, I kept my goals and supporting tasks in my task 
> outline view (Outline/All Tasks) also by time period, e.g., a tree for 
> Week, Month, Year.  Bad idea.  Just mark them as goals for whatever they 
> are, and don't try too hard to organize your project/task outline 
> chronologically.  Then use the "Goals" view to work with your goals, and 
> make sure everything you intend to have as a goal and work and track via 
> MLO is shown in that view, for the appropriate time period.
> (I'm assuming you know to use the task/folder properties window to mark 
> tasks/folders as "goal for" Week/Month/Year.)
>
> I like to use folders as goals, that is, title the folder in terms of the 
> outcome or positive statement of the accomplished goal, and then set the 
> priority at that level.  So if I have a goal for the year of something like 
> "I am under 180lbs, run 10K under 55m, feel strong, can do vigorous hikes, 
> bike fast, play full 90 minute game of soccer", then I would create that as 
> a folder and mark it as "goal for"/Year.  Then, under that, I might have 
> additional sub-folders like "I Include a well-researched weight training 
> program as part of my regular weekly fitness habits" and mark that as a 
> goal for the month.  Then, under that, I might have another folder like 
> "Draft and trial an initial weight training program for a few weeks". 
>  Under that folder, I might have specific tasks like "Research what 
> programs would be appropriate for my goals" and "Choose an initial weight 
> training program and try it for two weeks" as tasks.  FWIW, I would 
> typically mark the folder above those two tasks with the "Complete subtasks 
> in order" checkmark, so that only the "next" actionable task shows in the 
> outline, rather than having to see and deal with overwhelming tons of 
> tasks, only a few of which are currently relevant and actionable.
>
> One thing I suggest is to edit the settings for the default "Goals" view 
> to sort by "Importance" descending, at least if you use the 
> Steven-Covey-popularized Important/Urgent Quadrants I-IV approach. 
>  Otherwise, the order in which things appear in your list of goals makes no 
> sense.
>
> Hope this helps.  Feel free to ask any follow-up questions and with any 
> luck you'll get lots of great responses.
>
>
> On Monday, November 28, 2016 at 12:52:00 AM UTC-8, c.k. lester wrote:
>>
>> I would like to see more information about managing "Goals." I have a 
>> general idea of how they might work, but I'd like to see a tutorial of them 
>> in practice. Anybody have articles or videos in this regard?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>

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[MLO] Re: More Info About Goals

[James D]

No articles or tuturials I can think of aside from the ones in MLO help 
files, but here are some ideas to try out.

For the longest time, I kept my goals and supporting tasks in my task 
outline view (Outline/All Tasks) also by time period, e.g., a tree for 
Week, Month, Year.  Bad idea.  Just mark them as goals for whatever they 
are, and don't try too hard to organize your project/task outline 
chronologically.  Then use the "Goals" view to work with your goals, and 
make sure everything you intend to have as a goal and work and track via 
MLO is shown in that view, for the appropriate time period.
(I'm assuming you know to use the task/folder properties window to mark 
tasks/folders as "goal for" Week/Month/Year.)

I like to use folders as goals, that is, title the folder in terms of the 
outcome or positive statement of the accomplished goal, and then set the 
priority at that level.  So if I have a goal for the year of something like 
"I am under 180lbs, run 10K under 55m, feel strong, can do vigorous hikes, 
bike fast, play full 90 minute game of soccer", then I would create that as 
a folder and mark it as "goal for"/Year.  Then, under that, I might have 
additional sub-folders like "I Include a well-researched weight training 
program as part of my regular weekly fitness habits" and mark that as a 
goal for the month.  Then, under that, I might have another folder like 
"Draft and trial an initial weight training program for a few weeks". 
 Under that folder, I might have specific tasks like "Research what 
programs would be appropriate for my goals" and "Choose an initial weight 
training program and try it for two weeks" as tasks.  FWIW, I would 
typically mark the folder above those two tasks with the "Complete subtasks 
in order" checkmark, so that only the "next" actionable task shows in the 
outline, rather than having to see and deal with overwhelming tons of 
tasks, only a few of which are currently relevant and actionable.

One thing I suggest is to edit the settings for the default "Goals" view to 
sort by "Importance" descending, at least if you use the 
Steven-Covey-popularized Important/Urgent Quadrants I-IV approach. 
 Otherwise, the order in which things appear in your list of goals makes no 
sense.

Hope this helps.  Feel free to ask any follow-up questions and with any 
luck you'll get lots of great responses.


On Monday, November 28, 2016 at 12:52:00 AM UTC-8, c.k. lester wrote:
>
> I would like to see more information about managing "Goals." I have a 
> general idea of how they might work, but I'd like to see a tutorial of them 
> in practice. Anybody have articles or videos in this regard?
>
> Thanks!
>
>

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[MLO] Re: Why is MLO Cloud Sync paid?

[James D]

>From the perspective of an enthusiastic user of other "dead" PIM programs 
of the past, most notably Ecco Pro, a great outliner-based PIM program...
When I put my life and information and plans and schemes and goals into a 
program like MLO, the last thing I want is for the company producing that 
software to go belly-up.
MLO cloud fees are a small price to pay for being able to count on having 
the features of this awesome program available year after year.

For example, Google sells advertising.  That's their business model.  They 
can afford to "give away" things that help their business model, or give 
them a competitive advantage that leads people to the part of the business 
where they make money. At last check MLO was not in the business of selling 
ads, just the business of providing great personal productivity software on 
PC, Mac, and mobile platforms.  How else can MLO stay in business and pay 
their developers if they can't make money somewhere?  I guarantee you don't 
want to be a loyal user of a dead program from a company that no longer 
exists.  MLO's cloud fees are reasonable enough.  Servers and bandwidth and 
people and systems to monitor them and keep them up aren't free, so MLO has 
an expense to cover in providing the service.  MLO even provides us a way 
to sync over WiFi and other options so we are not "forced" to use the cloud 
service.  However, being able to use cloud sync is such a big productivity 
booster, to me it's worth paying a few bucks every year or two.

It's a small price to pay to ensure the ongoing viabiity of a program whose 
primary agenda is to help US be more productive, without us being funneled 
and forced into other agendas like happens with Google, Microsoft, Apple, 
Amazon, etc.  Don't get me wrong, I love and use products from all those 
companies.

P.S. I'm hoping before long their might even be a "skill" developed for 
Amazon Echo so that "Alexa, add a task to my to-do list, buy my girlfriend 
a Seattle Sounders jersey for Christmas", and have that task added to my 
*MLO* to-do list, instead of the lame Amazon Echo one.  Oh yes, and "Alexa, 
add a task to buy tickets to MLS Cup at 7 pm pacific time tomorrow".  


On Saturday, November 19, 2016 at 3:51:30 PM UTC-8, MG wrote:
>
> Andrey,
>
> I guess I was misunderstood.
>
> I did not meant that MLO would have to be free at all but, only the cloud 
> sync service.
>
> I do not agree of free app or whatever product, and regarding MLO would 
> not be too, since it is a good app.
>
> But regarding the cloud sync service, what is the main reason to keep it 
> under charge?
>
> I think MLO Team would have to reconsider this issue, since those who 
> bought the app or the windows version would have this cloud sync for free, 
> in my opinion.
>
> Because this subscriptions works like a limitation for the app in everyday 
> usage.
>
>
> MG
>

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Re: [MLO] Re: Running MLO Desktop on Mac OSX

[Shai Geva]

Hi Stéphane,
Sorry, I searched for it but managed to miss it...
It works without issues.

Thank you!!!

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 2:04 AM, Stéph  wrote:

> Hello Shaig,
>
> The insert and alt-insert shortcuts are actually hotkeys, which can be
> reassigned under the Tools-Options menu selection.  Does this hotkey
> assignment list not work when you're using it on a Mac?
>
> Stéphane
>
> On Tuesday, 29 November 2016 11:29:08 UTC, shaig wrote:
>
>> Hey guys,
>> I'm trying to set up MLO on a mac and figured I'd bump up this post
>> instead of making a new one.
>> I got MLO working (with WineBottler, on El Capitan) but I can't find a
>> way to get any keys on the mac keyboard to behave like the windows insert
>> key on MLO. And I make very heavy use of the insert and alt-insert
>> shortcuts.
>>
>> Any solution to this? Either a way to change the key binding or a way to
>> send "insert" to MLO is great.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 10:38:02 AM UTC+2, Rob Feeny wrote:
>>>
>>> The simplest solution I've come up with is running it on a VM using
>>> VirtualBox. I have a simple lightweight Win7 install that does nothing but
>>> run MLO. In seamless mode it's pretty nice.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, September 2, 2015 at 2:16:02 PM UTC-7, Steve.S wrote:

 Does anyone have recent experience of running the Windows MLO version
 on Mac OSX under Wine?

 My MacBook Air arrives tomorrow and I will attempt to leave Windows
 behind after nearly 30 years as my main desktop. Work rules mean no option
 to run it as a VM with Windows.I found some old entries on the forum from 2
 years ago, which suggested that it was possible to get it working.
 Interested in more recent experience.

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Re: [MLO] Re: Why is MLO Cloud Sync paid?

[Zainan Victor Zhou]

+1 on charging for Cloud Service. I am also wishing to be able to pay to
vote for upcoming features


Zainan Victor Zhou, 周载南
650-336-5691

On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 10:37 PM, James D  wrote:

> From the perspective of an enthusiastic user of other "dead" PIM programs
> of the past, most notably Ecco Pro, a great outliner-based PIM program...
> When I put my life and information and plans and schemes and goals into a
> program like MLO, the last thing I want is for the company producing that
> software to go belly-up.
> MLO cloud fees are a small price to pay for being able to count on having
> the features of this awesome program available year after year.
>
> For example, Google sells advertising.  That's their business model.  They
> can afford to "give away" things that help their business model, or give
> them a competitive advantage that leads people to the part of the business
> where they make money. At last check MLO was not in the business of selling
> ads, just the business of providing great personal productivity software on
> PC, Mac, and mobile platforms.  How else can MLO stay in business and pay
> their developers if they can't make money somewhere?  I guarantee you don't
> want to be a loyal user of a dead program from a company that no longer
> exists.  MLO's cloud fees are reasonable enough.  Servers and bandwidth and
> people and systems to monitor them and keep them up aren't free, so MLO has
> an expense to cover in providing the service.  MLO even provides us a way
> to sync over WiFi and other options so we are not "forced" to use the cloud
> service.  However, being able to use cloud sync is such a big productivity
> booster, to me it's worth paying a few bucks every year or two.
>
> It's a small price to pay to ensure the ongoing viabiity of a program
> whose primary agenda is to help US be more productive, without us being
> funneled and forced into other agendas like happens with Google, Microsoft,
> Apple, Amazon, etc.  Don't get me wrong, I love and use products from all
> those companies.
>
> P.S. I'm hoping before long their might even be a "skill" developed for
> Amazon Echo so that "Alexa, add a task to my to-do list, buy my girlfriend
> a Seattle Sounders jersey for Christmas", and have that task added to my
> *MLO* to-do list, instead of the lame Amazon Echo one.  Oh yes, and "Alexa,
> add a task to buy tickets to MLS Cup at 7 pm pacific time tomorrow".
>
>
> On Saturday, November 19, 2016 at 3:51:30 PM UTC-8, MG wrote:
>>
>> Andrey,
>>
>> I guess I was misunderstood.
>>
>> I did not meant that MLO would have to be free at all but, only the cloud
>> sync service.
>>
>> I do not agree of free app or whatever product, and regarding MLO would
>> not be too, since it is a good app.
>>
>> But regarding the cloud sync service, what is the main reason to keep it
>> under charge?
>>
>> I think MLO Team would have to reconsider this issue, since those who
>> bought the app or the windows version would have this cloud sync for free,
>> in my opinion.
>>
>> Because this subscriptions works like a limitation for the app in
>> everyday usage.
>>
>>
>> MG
>>
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[MLO] Re: More Info About Goals

[Stéph]

I do the opposite to John. Rather than trying to assign goals to tasks, 
assign tasks and projects to the goal they will achieve (or the role they 
come under).
 
My outline is structured so that I group things into Roles and Goals (as 
per Stephen Covey's system). So my task outline is grouped into the 
following hierarchy:

   - *Areas of Life *at the top level (those areas being four quadrants: 
   Personal, Home, Work and Community)
   - Level 2 is for my *Roles *(under the Home quadrant, my Roles might 
   include husband, father, home maintenance, finances. Under the Work 
   quadrant, I have things like Line Manager, Discipline Lead, Control Systems 
   Specialist, Technical Reviewer, etc). It's amazing how many different roles 
   a person ends up performing, for one employment.
   - Level 3 is for my *Goals and Projects*. For example, in my Role as a 
   Control Systems Specialist, I may have a Goal to "develop a team of SCADA 
   specialists" and I may have several projects on which I'm responsible for 
   delivering the design of the industrial control system. 
   - Level 4 onwards - Each project and Goal will have several *tasks* 
   under it. Some Goals might have tasks grouped into small projects grouped 
   under them.

 
For my purposes, I don't need to split my Goals into Yearly, Monthly and 
Weekly, because I don't spend time viewing or reviewing them separately at 
these different levels. I just make them all Yearly Goals and assign the 
appropriate due date to each of them.

I find it helps to group my tasks and projects under roles and goals in my 
outline, because that helps me to make sure I prioritise those projects and 
tasks which align with my goals and ignore or delegate those tasks which 
don't really fit into my current roles.

Hope that's helpful.
Stéphane

 
On Wednesday, 30 November 2016 21:46:51 UTC, John . Smith wrote:

>  
> IMHO, it's very very messy whatever you do.
>  
> If I'm correct, the core problem is that although MLO does have an 
> underlying database field for Goal (with possible values of Week, Month, 
> Year or None), there is no way of allocating any such goal to a task.
>  
> Yes you can use folders, but that only works of you're not using folders 
> for something else.
>  
> Yes you can use Context Tags but that clutters up you contexts and becomes 
> messy. 
>  
> MLO is already said by many to already be "too complicated" and "too 
> bloated" but to my way of thinking there needs to be a way of very easily 
> allocating goals to task. Like with a paint brush. This would be a very 
> powerful feature. 
>  
> - Any takers?
>  
> J
>  
> On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 8:24:44 AM UTC, James D wrote:
>
>> No articles or tuturials I can think of aside from the ones in MLO help 
>> files, but here are some ideas to try out.
>>  
>> For the longest time, I kept my goals and supporting tasks in my task 
>> outline view (Outline/All Tasks) also by time period, e.g., a tree for 
>> Week, Month, Year.  Bad idea.  Just mark them as goals for whatever they 
>> are, and don't try too hard to organize your project/task outline 
>> chronologically.  Then use the "Goals" view to work with your goals, and 
>> make sure everything you intend to have as a goal and work and track via 
>> MLO is shown in that view, for the appropriate time period.
>>  
>> (I'm assuming you know to use the task/folder properties window to mark 
>> tasks/folders as "goal for" Week/Month/Year.)
>>  
>> I like to use folders as goals, that is, title the folder in terms of the 
>> outcome or positive statement of the accomplished goal, and then set the 
>> priority at that level.  So if I have a goal for the year of something like 
>> "I am under 180lbs, run 10K under 55m, feel strong, can do vigorous hikes, 
>> bike fast, play full 90 minute game of soccer", then I would create that as 
>> a folder and mark it as "goal for"/Year.  Then, under that, I might have 
>> additional sub-folders like "I Include a well-researched weight training 
>> program as part of my regular weekly fitness habits" and mark that as a 
>> goal for the month.  Then, under that, I might have another folder like 
>> "Draft and trial an initial weight training program for a few weeks". 
>>  Under that folder, I might have specific tasks like "Research what 
>> programs would be appropriate for my goals" and "Choose an initial weight 
>> training program and try it for two weeks" as tasks.  FWIW, I would 
>> typically mark the folder above those two tasks with the "Complete subtasks 
>> in order" checkmark, so that only the "next" actionable task shows in the 
>> outline, rather than having to see and deal with overwhelming tons of 
>> tasks, only a few of which are currently relevant and actionable.
>>  
>> One thing I suggest is to edit the settings for the default "Goals" view 
>> to sort by "Importance" descending, at least if you use the 
>> Steven-Covey-popularized Important/Urgent Quadrants I-IV approach. 
>>  

[MLO] Re: Calendar View Aailability

[Roberto Penzo]

I absolutely agree with you!!
A read-only calendar view like the current one is very out-of-date feature.
I posted similar suggestion many times and read also other posts similar to 
this.
How could we get this coming on MLO Windows and Android? Unfortunately the 
current view seems to be the final oneI hope no!

Il giorno mercoledì 30 novembre 2016 15:29:32 UTC+1, robisme (Olivier R) ha 
scritto:
>
> I don't like and don't use the android calendar view because there is no 
> way of "acting whatever" with the appointments.
> I'd like the windows (and therefore, the mobile also), have a 
> *synchronization 
> feature with google calendar*, being able to present the appointments in 
> a familiar MLO *outline view*:
> Each appointment gets its start and end date (using start and due dates) 
> and category or calendar (using contexts).
> Each appointment would act as a task and therefore, have the subtasks we 
> add.
> Changing appointment attributes (dates, context, etc.) would be 
> synchronised.
>
> This could be very a usefull way to have a meeting being a project with 
> dates, and tasks to achieve for this projects, etc.
>
> Olivier
>
>
>
> Le lundi 28 novembre 2016 11:16:20 UTC+1, Baogang Liu a écrit :
>>
>> +1. 
>>
>> At least, can have a simple calendar as MS Outlook, if can not as MS 
>> Project.
>>
>> On Sunday, October 30, 2016 at 4:05:08 PM UTC+8, Grant wrote:
>>>
>>> ... Still hoping to get the calendar view into Windows soon...
>>>
>>> On Sunday, April 17, 2016 at 10:08:42 AM UTC+2, Ken Freeman wrote:

 Am I correct in understanding that Calendar view is only available with 
 “iDevices” still? 

 Quote from video text; “The new calendar view is available in 
 MyLifeOrganized for iPhone and iPad. Soon we are planning to implement it 
 on other platforms.” Date viewed and read; 04/17/2016

 Ken

>>>

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[MLO] Re: Calendar View Aailability

[Roberto Penzo]

Sorry I would point out that I would also get the view sync with Google 
Calendar! I heavily use it but MLO and Google Calendar are two separate 
worlds for today! Not friendly at all!

Il giorno mercoledì 30 novembre 2016 15:29:32 UTC+1, robisme (Olivier R) ha 
scritto:
>
> I don't like and don't use the android calendar view because there is no 
> way of "acting whatever" with the appointments.
> I'd like the windows (and therefore, the mobile also), have a 
> *synchronization 
> feature with google calendar*, being able to present the appointments in 
> a familiar MLO *outline view*:
> Each appointment gets its start and end date (using start and due dates) 
> and category or calendar (using contexts).
> Each appointment would act as a task and therefore, have the subtasks we 
> add.
> Changing appointment attributes (dates, context, etc.) would be 
> synchronised.
>
> This could be very a usefull way to have a meeting being a project with 
> dates, and tasks to achieve for this projects, etc.
>
> Olivier
>
>
>
> Le lundi 28 novembre 2016 11:16:20 UTC+1, Baogang Liu a écrit :
>>
>> +1. 
>>
>> At least, can have a simple calendar as MS Outlook, if can not as MS 
>> Project.
>>
>> On Sunday, October 30, 2016 at 4:05:08 PM UTC+8, Grant wrote:
>>>
>>> ... Still hoping to get the calendar view into Windows soon...
>>>
>>> On Sunday, April 17, 2016 at 10:08:42 AM UTC+2, Ken Freeman wrote:

 Am I correct in understanding that Calendar view is only available with 
 “iDevices” still? 

 Quote from video text; “The new calendar view is available in 
 MyLifeOrganized for iPhone and iPad. Soon we are planning to implement it 
 on other platforms.” Date viewed and read; 04/17/2016

 Ken

>>>

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[MLO] Re: Calendar View Aailability

[robisme (Olivier R)]

I don't like and don't use the android calendar view because there is no 
way of "acting whatever" with the appointments.
I'd like the windows (and therefore, the mobile also), have a *synchronization 
feature with google calendar*, being able to present the appointments in a 
familiar MLO *outline view*:
Each appointment gets its start and end date (using start and due dates) 
and category or calendar (using contexts).
Each appointment would act as a task and therefore, have the subtasks we 
add.
Changing appointment attributes (dates, context, etc.) would be 
synchronised.

This could be very a usefull way to have a meeting being a project with 
dates, and tasks to achieve for this projects, etc.

Olivier



Le lundi 28 novembre 2016 11:16:20 UTC+1, Baogang Liu a écrit :
>
> +1. 
>
> At least, can have a simple calendar as MS Outlook, if can not as MS 
> Project.
>
> On Sunday, October 30, 2016 at 4:05:08 PM UTC+8, Grant wrote:
>>
>> ... Still hoping to get the calendar view into Windows soon...
>>
>> On Sunday, April 17, 2016 at 10:08:42 AM UTC+2, Ken Freeman wrote:
>>>
>>> Am I correct in understanding that Calendar view is only available with 
>>> “iDevices” still? 
>>>
>>> Quote from video text; “The new calendar view is available in 
>>> MyLifeOrganized for iPhone and iPad. Soon we are planning to implement it 
>>> on other platforms.” Date viewed and read; 04/17/2016
>>>
>>> Ken
>>>
>>

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