Re: [neonixie-l] Re: New CD47 sized tubes?!

[newxito]

 

Selling electronics seems to be very complex in the EU. Even for small 
series you apparently need the CE certificate... and many other paperwork. 
You even have to register and pay for future recycling. And I think is 
better to have a good insurance because of the “product liability”.
Selling kits seems to be a little bit easier. Anyway, I have decided to 
never ever sell any self-designed/self-made electronics.

If someone is interested, google for "auf dem Weg zum eigenen Produkt", 
there is a very informative drawing from the German “Make”, if you click on 
the icons you get a more detailed explanation ... if you understand German 
:-)

>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Homebrew high voltage nixie power supply

[Richard Scales]

All understood, thank you for your help.Sent from my Huawei phone Original Message Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Homebrew high voltage nixie power supplyFrom: "Kevin A." To: neonixie-l CC: Richard,Just letting you know that I also reached out to parcelforce in the UK and submitted an inquiry with them as well. If none of the requests I've submitted turns up a result in one week's time (by November 8th, 2019), I'll be sending you a new package via. DHL.Thank you for your patience, KevinOn Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 4:07 PM Richard Scales  wrote:I got my friend in Hongkong to place an order from the second batch and his have just arrived in HK, I suspect he might be seeing his before I see mine!On Thursday, 31 October 2019 00:36:44 UTC, Kevin A.  wrote:After a lengthy phone conversation with USPS representatives, they submitted an internal request for an update on the package. Hopefully it is still in transit to you, and maybe forewent some local scans in the UK. I shipped another unit to Australia the same week and the tracking history looks similarly sparse, with the package arriving just today.Of course, I'll keep you posted. Thanks. On Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 7:32 PM Kevin A.  wrote:I see that on my end as well. I do not send packages to the UK often, so I can't comment on whether this is normal or not. I did just submit a formal search request for this package through the USPS website and I'm calling USPS now. As it is after business hours, if I cannot reach anyone tonight I'll place another call tomorrow early in the day. I'll keep you posted with any updates. Worst case, if it is determined to be completely lost I can recover the insured value and send you another package (with a different carrier). Thanks,KevinOn Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 7:13 PM Richard Scales  wrote:Thank you. Oddly USPS has it as having left London Heathrow on the 24th, no updates since. The UK handler Parcel force confirmed that it has not been scanned into their network ☹️

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Homebrew high voltage nixie power supply

[Kevin A.]

Richard,

Just letting you know that I also reached out to parcelforce in the UK and
submitted an inquiry with them as well. If none of the requests I've
submitted turns up a result in one week's time (by November 8th, 2019),
I'll be sending you a new package via. DHL.

Thank you for your patience,
Kevin

On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 4:07 PM Richard Scales 
wrote:

> I got my friend in Hongkong to place an order from the second batch and
> his have just arrived in HK, I suspect he might be seeing his before I see
> mine!
>
>
> On Thursday, 31 October 2019 00:36:44 UTC, Kevin A. wrote:
>>
>> After a lengthy phone conversation with USPS representatives, they
>> submitted an internal request for an update on the package. Hopefully it is
>> still in transit to you, and maybe forewent some local scans in the UK. I
>> shipped another unit to Australia the same week and the tracking history
>> looks similarly sparse, with the package arriving just today.
>>
>> Of course, I'll keep you posted. Thanks.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 7:32 PM Kevin A. 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I see that on my end as well. I do not send packages to the UK often, so
>>> I can't comment on whether this is normal or not. I did just submit a
>>> formal search request for this package through the USPS website and I'm
>>> calling USPS now. As it is after business hours, if I cannot reach anyone
>>> tonight I'll place another call tomorrow early in the day.
>>>
>>> I'll keep you posted with any updates. Worst case, if it is determined
>>> to be completely lost I can recover the insured value and send you another
>>> package (with a different carrier).
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Kevin
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 7:13 PM Richard Scales 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thank you. Oddly USPS has it as having left London Heathrow on the
 24th, no updates since. The UK handler Parcel force confirmed that it has
 not been scanned into their network ☹️

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: New CD47 sized tubes?!

[Kevin A.]

I think you're right Marcin. I wrote him yesterday about buying tubes; he
indicated to me that:

"...if nobody renounces the interest, I open the official shop and start
selling. Sending JP47 cannot be done illegally, I would expose the
possibility of fines from the authorities."

He seems apprehensive about selling without being established legally
first. Another point to note is that he also expressed concerns about
selling to US customers, as he has a perception that people in the US start
lawsuits if any issue should result from the use of a product.

His summary:
"Nixie will only be sold in the EU zone, I will not sell nixie outside the
EU. Maybe in time, there will be someone interested in business cooperation
and selling nixie outside the EU on his own responsibility, but that will
show up over time.
The guarantee (warranty) for nixie will only be within the framework of the
law of a particular country in the EU, I will not give a guarantee beyond
the framework of the law, I cannot afford such a luxury."

I think that he could be made to come around if he realizes the potential
for these giant tubes, especially with the growing market for nixies today.
If I manage to make any progress in speaking to him or getting tubes, I'll
share that here.

On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 7:28 PM Marcin Adamski 
wrote:

> 'Selling unofficially' may mean outside of a registered company. He may
> be in a process of setting his own company up and getting all paperwork
> in order.
>
> Marcin
>
>
> On 1/11/2019 10:10, jb-electronics wrote:
> > Yes, I contacted him, asking whether I could buy one tube for my
> > collection. He said that he is not selling anything now "unofficially"
> > (whatever that means), and it seems like he is only taking preorders.
> >
> > Jens
> >
> > On 2019-10-31 5:03 p.m., Kevin A. wrote:
> >> Jens,
> >>
> >> Sounds like you've had some experience contacting him. Do you know if
> >> he is fulfilling orders now or just taking money for "pre-orders"?
> >>
> >> Anything else we should know about?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Kevin
> >>
> >> On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 7:00 PM jb-electronics
> >> mailto:webmas...@jb-electronics.de>>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> The email is here, http://nixieproducer.com/index.php/kontakty ,
> >> it is plavec(AT)nixieproducer.com 
> >>
> >> He is not willing to sell what he calls "unofficially" so if you
> >> are interested in just one piece to see what the quality or the
> >> electrical parameters are like, don't bother.
> >>
> >> Jens
> >>
> >> On 2019-10-31 4:53 p.m., Kevin A. wrote:
> >>> I'd like to know also. I've got another friend who is interested
> >>> in ordering 8 tubes. That makes 15 between the two of us. Does
> >>> anyone see his email?
> >>>
> >>> Also, Paul, where were you able to find the price?
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 6:35 PM Nicholas Stock
> >>> mailto:nickst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> What's his warranty like?
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 3:14 PM Kevin A.
> >>>  >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Interestingly he posted an update just today: the tube is
> >>> ready to go into production, but due to the apparent lack
> >>> of interest he is hesitant to go into full production for
> >>> early 2020.
> >>>
> >>> The post reads that there are only about 16 tubes on
> >>> order, but to make production viable he is looking to
> >>> collect orders for around 100 throughout 2020. If he does
> >>> not reach that goal by the end of 2020 it's off for good.
> >>>
> >>> I'd love to get my hands on some huge tubes; definitely
> >>> going to place an order for 6 before the end of the year.
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Oct 31, 2019, 2:19 PM Paul Andrews
> >>> mailto:p...@nixies.us>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> They look pretty good to me. $280 seems reasonable,
> >>> but I can't justify spending that right now :-(
> >>>
> >>> On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 9:43:59 PM UTC-4,
> >>> Kevin A. wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Looks like there is a new player in the Czech
> >>> Republic making some big tubes, apparently
> >>> inspired by the CD47:
> >>>
> >>>
> http://nixieproducer.com/index.php/nixie-tube-jp47rodan-cd47gr-414
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[neonixie-l] Prebuilt PSU boards - recommendations?

[Dekatron42]

Tayloredge have prebuilt psu’s and Tortugascuba (Michael Moorrees) have kits 
that are easy to assemble and they both work very well.

/Martin

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[neonixie-l] Prebuilt PSU boards - recommendations?

[David Pye]

Hi all,

I'm working on a project which is a series of daughter boards for different
tubes (eg IN12, IN14, IN18), which then has a common driver-board which
provides the brains of the clock (processor/HV/RTC etc) to provide 8 digit
clocks.

I want it to be possible for people to fit different HV modules (within
reason of the footprint size of the board I can allocate).

What are common ones? What I would like to do is to ensure that you can
plug/play several of the current boards if I can get the footprints to
overlap.  Requirements would be to run off 9-12V input voltage.

So far, I've added footprints for the two I am most likely to recommend
(the NCH8200HV and CH6100HV  which Yan
sells)

I'd like to know if there is a particular smallish PSU board that's your
go-to PSU for clocks, and if so, I'll see if I can make room on the board
for a pinout for it.  Great thing is, provided the pinouts don't clash, I
can put them on top of each other (if that makes sense).

Cheers

David

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