Re: [NetBehaviour] Uncanny valley

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

I think it comes from virtual idols in Japan, Date Kyoko, Kyoko Date, 1996 
- we have the original multi-media disk, Love Communication. I wrote an 
article on her and virtual idols in general for an anthropological 
magazine around that time, I think it was Etnofoor - something like that - 
it was translated. It created a sense of unease re: the Japanese pop 
scene.


As a concept though maybe it goes all the way back to Capek's play R.U.R. 
or those 19th century images of steam engines as humanoid etc. and 
probably back father, I think there might have been references in ancient 
Greece?


Moloch! :-)

Best, Alan, a can of worms!

On Wed, 3 Apr 2024, Tina Laporta wrote:


Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2024 20:43:31 +
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Subject: [NetBehaviour] Uncanny valley

Sounds like a concept taken from blade runner 
The replicant? Rachel

And how did this message get attached to the Gaza email by the way???   



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  Sounds like a concept taken from blade runner
The replicant? Rachael 


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  ons 3 apr. 2024 kl. 13:57 skrev Alan Sondheim via
  NetBehaviour :


  Hi Tina, it refers to humans and robots and the
  latter are increasingly
  impossible to tell from the former; there's a
  "valley" which is occupied
  by both human and robot - where they may overlap in
  the future - and where
  it may be difficult to tell them apart. It's uncanny
  because it may be
  machine or living tissue or both, and it can be an
  area of discomfort for
  people, someone not knowing who or what they're
  talking to or confronting.

  - Best Alan

  On Wed, 3 Apr 2024, Tina Laporta wrote:

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On Apr 3, 2024, at 11:53?AM, Ana Vald?s via NetBehaviour
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  Friends I am shamelessly going to use the list to pitch
  money and support for my latest book 
Gaza Blues.
As many of you know I has been in Palestine and Gaza several
times I was in the battle of Jenin a kind of rehearsal in small
scale to what happens in Gaza. And no Hamas to blame.

www.ceciliaparsberg.se/jenin

Now I wrote a book about Gaza with stories about their culture
their food their festivities a kind of archeology of Gaza. Maybe
Gaza is going to be destroyed but let us writers artists and
common people keep Gaza alive in books stories and exhibitions.

I started a Go Fund page to make the book translated into
English and Spanish. The book is already out in Swedish my
second language.


https://gofund.me/2abccf75


And please pitch in and share it! A part of the selling of the
book is going directly to Gaza.










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cell Uruguay +598-99470758


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earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been and
there you will always long to return.
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[NetBehaviour] Uncanny valley

[Tina Laporta]

Sounds like a concept taken from blade runner

The replicant— Rachel

And how did this message get attached to the Gaza email by the way???



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On Apr 3, 2024, at 2:39 PM, Tina Laporta  wrote:

 Sounds like a concept taken from blade runner

The replicant— Rachael


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ons 3 apr. 2024 kl. 13:57 skrev Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour 
mailto:netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org>>:


Hi Tina, it refers to humans and robots and the latter are increasingly
impossible to tell from the former; there's a "valley" which is occupied
by both human and robot - where they may overlap in the future - and where
it may be difficult to tell them apart. It's uncanny because it may be
machine or living tissue or both, and it can be an area of discomfort for
people, someone not knowing who or what they're talking to or confronting.

- Best Alan

On Wed, 3 Apr 2024, Tina Laporta wrote:

> Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2024 13:55:02 +
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On Apr 3, 2024, at 11:53 AM, Ana Valdés via NetBehaviour 
 wrote:


Friends I am shamelessly going to use the list to pitch money and support for 
my latest book
Gaza Blues.
As many of you know I has been in Palestine and Gaza several times I was in the 
battle of Jenin a kind of rehearsal in small scale to what happens in Gaza. And 
no Hamas to blame.

www.ceciliaparsberg.se/jenin

Now I wrote a book about Gaza with stories about their culture their food their 
festivities a kind of archeology of Gaza. Maybe Gaza is going to be destroyed 
but let us writers artists and common people keep Gaza alive in books stories 
and exhibitions.

I started a Go Fund page to make the book translated into English and Spanish. 
The book is already out in Swedish my second language.


https://gofund.me/2abccf75


And please pitch in and share it! A part of the selling of the book is going 
directly to Gaza.










cell Sweden +4670-3213370
cell Uruguay +598-99470758


"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your 
eyes turned skyward, for there you have been and there you will always long to 
return.
— Leonardo da Vinci

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Re: [NetBehaviour] Uncanny valley

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

Hi Tina, it refers to humans and robots and the latter are increasingly 
impossible to tell from the former; there's a "valley" which is occupied 
by both human and robot - where they may overlap in the future - and where 
it may be difficult to tell them apart. It's uncanny because it may be 
machine or living tissue or both, and it can be an area of discomfort for 
people, someone not knowing who or what they're talking to or confronting.


- Best Alan

On Wed, 3 Apr 2024, Tina Laporta wrote:


Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2024 13:55:02 +
From: Tina Laporta 
Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity

To: "netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org"

Subject: [NetBehaviour] Uncanny valley


What is the uncanny valley and why is it a trap?


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[NetBehaviour] South East Cultural Assembly, 22nd April

[Ann Light via NetBehaviour]

Dear All,

For those of you on the south coast of England and concerned, "From
Eco-Anxiety to Action: How do we free ourselves to take action for climate
justice?" is taking place at the De La Warr Pavilion all day on 22nd April,
led by Culture Declares Emergency and ONCA:
https://onca.org.uk/event/south-east-cultural-assembly/.

Do consider coming along,
Ann
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[NetBehaviour] Uncanny valley

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What is the uncanny valley and why is it a trap?


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[NetBehaviour] the healing of esoteric scratch erhu

[Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour]

the healing of esoteric scratch erhu

https://youtu.be/LkjifBgRr0w video

eyes open
as of this night, azure sleeping, i awake i MUST play
quietly, the _scratch_ of the slow bow, bridge mute with folded
tissue, not an issue, this darkened, the slightest deviation
creates too much volume, this is tiptoe erhu to be sure, sound
sour sound of a worm for a robin, the sound of my breathing
sometimes difficult, i look - the very idea of a cure
problematic for what are the boundaries of the returning gray
sky, so this is the whispered calmness, the bow moved ever so
slowly across our my dull consciousness the waves, murmurs,
_music_ at the prior birth of language, of the language of Taut,
that \edge / after

eyes closed
that \edge / prior as of last night / i wish i hd something to
report, a night (better to report) of horros, unable to
function, to wake, to sleep, to do anything, neural debris
admixed with body plumbintg, things going wrong, things
stalling, lost in a sea of pain, . wish i had better to report.
if this is not long covid, what is, and what i read poiints to a
certain trial of everything and too many pathways and confused
information and often information generated by the suffers
themselves, i almost wrote patients, but caretaking seems
somewhat a troublesome thing other than lying around oh i did
that last night w/ the full horror of wakefulness going nowhere,
couldn't function, was gone before it came, hammers and anvils!
hammers and anvials! * in a momoent will try something on the
erhu to accompany this, haven't played it in a year or so,well
not that i can remember and i remember only the not-i and
(trrans)substantiation of the immicable.


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