Re: [NetBehaviour] 3rd Be-coming Tree Global Live Art Event

[Max Herman via NetBehaviour]

Hi Danielle,

I will try to attend!  The elm tree I like to visit is very large, 40 meters in 
diameter for the canopy and 4.5 meters circumference for the trunk.

Best regards,

Max



From: Danielle Imara 
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 4:49 AM
To: Max Herman ; ruthcat...@gmail.com 
; NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity 

Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] 3rd Be-coming Tree Global Live Art Event

Re: Re: 3rd Be-coming Tree Global Live Art Event (Ruth Catlow and Max Herman)

Ruth, I am so excited by the article you shared. Such a great thought to extend 
our kinship to AI. On one level, if we are imprinting the AI with our own 
patterns then surely this can only lead to best outcomes in how they develop; 
also for our own psyches to move on from seeing anyone or anything as simply a 
tool or servant to our needs has to be an important part of our evolution 
beyond hierarchical beliefs and structures. Thank you so much for sharing. I 
have been looking at Robin Kimmerer, who from an indigenous viewpoint also 
promotes kinship with all beings and natural forms.

Matthew, loving the thought of your surreptitious tree-hugging. Perhaps we 
should do it more openly so others feel safe to do so. Particularly now that 
human hugging is so very much out of style. Am also reading Powers' The 
Overstory, which is very worthwhile and inspiring.

See if you can attend Be-coming Tree tomorrow and let us know how it was for 
you.

On Thu, 7 Jan 2021 at 17:05, Max Herman 
mailto:maxnmher...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Ruth and Danielle,

I have to second the great value of trees of late.  I bought the Overstory but 
haven't read it yet, though a friend circulated a recent article about the 
real-life tree scientist Suzanne Simard who formed the basis for one of the 
characters.

Daily walks among the cottonwoods along the Mississippi were a great help in 
completing my book about the Mona Lisa in November.  Closer to home there is a 
giant elm, a rarity since the beetle infestations of the 70's, which I try to 
greet every day and when no one is watching, hug.  

Very best,

Max

PS -- thanks for link to article on indigenous concepts in AI, will review.


From: NetBehaviour 
mailto:netbehaviour-boun...@lists.netbehaviour.org>>
 on behalf of Ruth Catlow via NetBehaviour 
mailto:netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org>>
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 4:52 AM
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity 
mailto:netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org>>
Cc: Ruth Catlow mailto:ruthcat...@gmail.com>>; Danielle 
Imara mailto:danielleim...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] 3rd Be-coming Tree Global Live Art Event

Thanks for sharing this Danielle,

And this prompts me to share Making Kin with the Machines, a wonderful article 
by Jason Lewis, Noelani Arista, Archer Pechawis and Suzanne Kite.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/326614247_Making_Kin_with_the_Machines

I first came across it republished as a chapter in the (very enjoyable) Atlas 
of Anomalous AI<https://ignota.org/products/atlas-of-anomalous-ai> edited by 
Ben Vickers & K Allado-McDowel.

It proposes that indigenous protocols and customs are an expression of the best 
ontologies and epistemologies for healing the land and should therefore be 
central to all AI developments.
Drawing on a range of indigenous systems of knowledge it argues convincingly 
against the grave error of centering of human flourishing in Joi Ito's 
Resisting Reduction 
Manifesto<https://jods.mitpress.mit.edu/pub/resisting-reduction/release/17>.
They argue that because knowledge is born of relationship with the land, human 
ethics demands disciplined and respectful making kin with all things (who are 
also beings) on earth - aiming for long term balance, and openness to the 
mystery of relating to multiple sentiences.

I think this struck me especially strongly as I have spent the winter holidays 
taking solace in tramping through dank woodlands and a powerful feeling of 
being welcomed by the society of trees that live there.

Warmly
Ruth

On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 9:13 AM Danielle Imara via NetBehaviour 
mailto:netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org>>
 wrote:
Be-coming Tree

On Saturday Jan 9th 31 live artists from across the globe will interact with a 
chosen tree simultaneously for one hour. These durational artworks will be 
accessed via a shared Zoom webinar. Audiences will see artists in their 
landscapes in Africa, Asia, North and South America, and all over Europe on the 
same screen. There will be a live soundscape created from tree data via 
analogue synths playing throughout. Tickets (pay what you can) include a 
donation to plant a rainforest tree.
I am humbled by the quality of artists taking part in the event!
This entanglement with nature and technology inspires reciprocity with nature 
and a sense of global kinship with artists and their t

Re: [NetBehaviour] 3rd Be-coming Tree Global Live Art Event

[Ruth Catlow via NetBehaviour]

ha ha!
I love the idea that we should use this moment in which  hugging is
generally "out of style" to start hugging trees.

I have been very drawn to indigenous perspectives.
Last year I also recently read Robin Wall Kimmerer's Braiding Sweetgrass
<https://blackwells.co.uk/bookshop/product/9780141991955?gC=5a105e8b=CjwKCAiAouD_BRBIEiwALhJH6GZ5gyqg2MYBiRmwWF4VSEANDvu-n8a0nrZlpcku-_F9NPc6UonD-BoCtA8QAvD_BwE>
which
braids "Western" botanical science with indigenous American epistomologies.
And then this astonishing All My Relations podcast
<https://www.allmyrelationspodcast.com/>created by 2 intersectional
feminist indigenous American women.
In both the book and the podcast I was initially drawn by the
chapters/episodes about language-loss and then stayed for the relational
lens on all aspects of life which resonates for me with DIWO approaches to
network culture.

I'm planning to join the tree-becoming event tomorrow. : )
Ruth

On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 10:49 AM Danielle Imara 
wrote:

> Re: Re: 3rd Be-coming Tree Global Live Art Event (Ruth Catlow and Max
> Herman)
>
> Ruth, I am so excited by the article you shared. Such a great thought to
> extend our kinship to AI. On one level, if we are imprinting the AI with
> our own patterns then surely this can only lead to best outcomes in how
> they develop; also for our own psyches to move on from seeing anyone or
> anything as simply a tool or servant to our needs has to be an important
> part of our evolution beyond hierarchical beliefs and structures. Thank you
> so much for sharing. I have been looking at Robin Kimmerer, who from an
> indigenous viewpoint also promotes kinship with all beings and natural
> forms.
>
> Matthew, loving the thought of your surreptitious tree-hugging. Perhaps we
> should do it more openly so others feel safe to do so. Particularly now
> that human hugging is so very much out of style. Am also reading Powers'
> The Overstory, which is very worthwhile and inspiring.
>
> See if you can attend Be-coming Tree tomorrow and let us know how it was
> for you.
>
> On Thu, 7 Jan 2021 at 17:05, Max Herman  wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Ruth and Danielle,
>>
>> I have to second the great value of trees of late.  I bought *the
>> Overstory* but haven't read it yet, though a friend circulated a recent
>> article about the real-life tree scientist Suzanne Simard who formed the
>> basis for one of the characters.
>>
>> Daily walks among the cottonwoods along the Mississippi were a great help
>> in completing my book about the *Mona Lisa* in November.  Closer to home
>> there is a giant elm, a rarity since the beetle infestations of the 70's,
>> which I try to greet every day and when no one is watching, hug.  
>>
>> Very best,
>>
>> Max
>>
>> PS -- thanks for link to article on indigenous concepts in AI, will
>> review.
>>
>> --
>> *From:* NetBehaviour  on
>> behalf of Ruth Catlow via NetBehaviour <
>> netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 7, 2021 4:52 AM
>> *To:* NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity <
>> netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org>
>> *Cc:* Ruth Catlow ; Danielle Imara <
>> danielleim...@gmail.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [NetBehaviour] 3rd Be-coming Tree Global Live Art Event
>>
>> Thanks for sharing this Danielle,
>>
>> And this prompts me to share Making Kin with the Machines, a wonderful
>> article by Jason Lewis, Noelani Arista, Archer Pechawis and Suzanne Kite.
>>
>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/326614247_Making_Kin_with_the_Machines
>>
>> I first came across it republished as a chapter in the (very enjoyable) Atlas
>> of Anomalous AI <https://ignota.org/products/atlas-of-anomalous-ai> edited
>> by Ben Vickers & K Allado-McDowel.
>>
>> It proposes that indigenous protocols and customs are an expression of
>> the best ontologies and epistemologies for healing the land and should
>> therefore be central to all AI developments.
>> Drawing on a range of indigenous systems of knowledge it argues
>> convincingly against the grave error of centering of human flourishing in
>> Joi Ito's Resisting Reduction Manifesto
>> <https://jods.mitpress.mit.edu/pub/resisting-reduction/release/17>.
>> They argue that because knowledge is born of relationship with the land,
>> human ethics demands disciplined and respectful making kin with all things
>> (who are also beings) on earth - aiming for long term balance, and openness
>> to the mystery of relating to multiple sentiences.
>>
>> I think this struck me especially stro

Re: [NetBehaviour] 3rd Be-coming Tree Global Live Art Event

[Danielle Imara via NetBehaviour]

Re: Re: 3rd Be-coming Tree Global Live Art Event (Ruth Catlow and Max
Herman)

Ruth, I am so excited by the article you shared. Such a great thought to
extend our kinship to AI. On one level, if we are imprinting the AI with
our own patterns then surely this can only lead to best outcomes in how
they develop; also for our own psyches to move on from seeing anyone or
anything as simply a tool or servant to our needs has to be an important
part of our evolution beyond hierarchical beliefs and structures. Thank you
so much for sharing. I have been looking at Robin Kimmerer, who from an
indigenous viewpoint also promotes kinship with all beings and natural
forms.

Matthew, loving the thought of your surreptitious tree-hugging. Perhaps we
should do it more openly so others feel safe to do so. Particularly now
that human hugging is so very much out of style. Am also reading Powers'
The Overstory, which is very worthwhile and inspiring.

See if you can attend Be-coming Tree tomorrow and let us know how it was
for you.

On Thu, 7 Jan 2021 at 17:05, Max Herman  wrote:

>
> Hi Ruth and Danielle,
>
> I have to second the great value of trees of late.  I bought *the
> Overstory* but haven't read it yet, though a friend circulated a recent
> article about the real-life tree scientist Suzanne Simard who formed the
> basis for one of the characters.
>
> Daily walks among the cottonwoods along the Mississippi were a great help
> in completing my book about the *Mona Lisa* in November.  Closer to home
> there is a giant elm, a rarity since the beetle infestations of the 70's,
> which I try to greet every day and when no one is watching, hug.  
>
> Very best,
>
> Max
>
> PS -- thanks for link to article on indigenous concepts in AI, will review.
>
> --
> *From:* NetBehaviour  on
> behalf of Ruth Catlow via NetBehaviour <
> netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 7, 2021 4:52 AM
> *To:* NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity <
> netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org>
> *Cc:* Ruth Catlow ; Danielle Imara <
> danielleim...@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [NetBehaviour] 3rd Be-coming Tree Global Live Art Event
>
> Thanks for sharing this Danielle,
>
> And this prompts me to share Making Kin with the Machines, a wonderful
> article by Jason Lewis, Noelani Arista, Archer Pechawis and Suzanne Kite.
>
> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/326614247_Making_Kin_with_the_Machines
>
> I first came across it republished as a chapter in the (very enjoyable) Atlas
> of Anomalous AI <https://ignota.org/products/atlas-of-anomalous-ai> edited
> by Ben Vickers & K Allado-McDowel.
>
> It proposes that indigenous protocols and customs are an expression of the
> best ontologies and epistemologies for healing the land and should
> therefore be central to all AI developments.
> Drawing on a range of indigenous systems of knowledge it argues
> convincingly against the grave error of centering of human flourishing in
> Joi Ito's Resisting Reduction Manifesto
> <https://jods.mitpress.mit.edu/pub/resisting-reduction/release/17>.
> They argue that because knowledge is born of relationship with the land,
> human ethics demands disciplined and respectful making kin with all things
> (who are also beings) on earth - aiming for long term balance, and openness
> to the mystery of relating to multiple sentiences.
>
> I think this struck me especially strongly as I have spent the winter
> holidays taking solace in tramping through dank woodlands and a powerful
> feeling of being welcomed by the society of trees that live there.
>
> Warmly
> Ruth
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 9:13 AM Danielle Imara via NetBehaviour <
> netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:
>
> Be-coming Tree
>
> On Saturday Jan 9th 31 live artists from across the globe will interact
> with a chosen tree simultaneously for one hour. These durational artworks
> will be accessed via a shared Zoom webinar. Audiences will see artists in
> their landscapes in Africa, Asia, North and South America, and all over
> Europe on the same screen. There will be a live soundscape created from
> tree data via analogue synths playing throughout. Tickets (pay what you
> can) include a donation to plant a rainforest tree.
> I am humbled by the quality of artists taking part in the event!
> This entanglement with nature and technology inspires reciprocity with
> nature and a sense of global kinship with artists and their trees, while
> contributing to reforestation. Tickets: *https://tinyurl.com/y8n3unu3*
> <https://tinyurl.com/y8n3unu3>
>
>
> www.danielleimara.com
> Insta: @danielleimara
> +447903684863
>
>
>
> _

Re: [NetBehaviour] 3rd Be-coming Tree Global Live Art Event

[Max Herman via NetBehaviour]

Hi Ruth and Danielle,

I have to second the great value of trees of late.  I bought the Overstory but 
haven't read it yet, though a friend circulated a recent article about the 
real-life tree scientist Suzanne Simard who formed the basis for one of the 
characters.

Daily walks among the cottonwoods along the Mississippi were a great help in 
completing my book about the Mona Lisa in November.  Closer to home there is a 
giant elm, a rarity since the beetle infestations of the 70's, which I try to 
greet every day and when no one is watching, hug.  

Very best,

Max

PS -- thanks for link to article on indigenous concepts in AI, will review.


From: NetBehaviour  on behalf of 
Ruth Catlow via NetBehaviour 
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 4:52 AM
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity 

Cc: Ruth Catlow ; Danielle Imara 
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] 3rd Be-coming Tree Global Live Art Event

Thanks for sharing this Danielle,

And this prompts me to share Making Kin with the Machines, a wonderful article 
by Jason Lewis, Noelani Arista, Archer Pechawis and Suzanne Kite.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/326614247_Making_Kin_with_the_Machines

I first came across it republished as a chapter in the (very enjoyable) Atlas 
of Anomalous AI<https://ignota.org/products/atlas-of-anomalous-ai> edited by 
Ben Vickers & K Allado-McDowel.

It proposes that indigenous protocols and customs are an expression of the best 
ontologies and epistemologies for healing the land and should therefore be 
central to all AI developments.
Drawing on a range of indigenous systems of knowledge it argues convincingly 
against the grave error of centering of human flourishing in Joi Ito's 
Resisting Reduction 
Manifesto<https://jods.mitpress.mit.edu/pub/resisting-reduction/release/17>.
They argue that because knowledge is born of relationship with the land, human 
ethics demands disciplined and respectful making kin with all things (who are 
also beings) on earth - aiming for long term balance, and openness to the 
mystery of relating to multiple sentiences.

I think this struck me especially strongly as I have spent the winter holidays 
taking solace in tramping through dank woodlands and a powerful feeling of 
being welcomed by the society of trees that live there.

Warmly
Ruth

On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 9:13 AM Danielle Imara via NetBehaviour 
mailto:netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org>>
 wrote:
Be-coming Tree

On Saturday Jan 9th 31 live artists from across the globe will interact with a 
chosen tree simultaneously for one hour. These durational artworks will be 
accessed via a shared Zoom webinar. Audiences will see artists in their 
landscapes in Africa, Asia, North and South America, and all over Europe on the 
same screen. There will be a live soundscape created from tree data via 
analogue synths playing throughout. Tickets (pay what you can) include a 
donation to plant a rainforest tree.
I am humbled by the quality of artists taking part in the event!
This entanglement with nature and technology inspires reciprocity with nature 
and a sense of global kinship with artists and their trees, while contributing 
to reforestation. Tickets: https://tinyurl.com/y8n3unu3


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Re: [NetBehaviour] 3rd Be-coming Tree Global Live Art Event

[Ruth Catlow via NetBehaviour]

Thanks for sharing this Danielle,

And this prompts me to share Making Kin with the Machines, a wonderful
article by Jason Lewis, Noelani Arista, Archer Pechawis and Suzanne Kite.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/326614247_Making_Kin_with_the_Machines

I first came across it republished as a chapter in the (very enjoyable) Atlas
of Anomalous AI  edited
by Ben Vickers & K Allado-McDowel.

It proposes that indigenous protocols and customs are an expression of the
best ontologies and epistemologies for healing the land and should
therefore be central to all AI developments.
Drawing on a range of indigenous systems of knowledge it argues
convincingly against the grave error of centering of human flourishing in
Joi Ito's Resisting Reduction Manifesto
.
They argue that because knowledge is born of relationship with the land,
human ethics demands disciplined and respectful making kin with all things
(who are also beings) on earth - aiming for long term balance, and openness
to the mystery of relating to multiple sentiences.

I think this struck me especially strongly as I have spent the winter
holidays taking solace in tramping through dank woodlands and a powerful
feeling of being welcomed by the society of trees that live there.

Warmly
Ruth

On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 9:13 AM Danielle Imara via NetBehaviour <
netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:

> Be-coming Tree
>
> On Saturday Jan 9th 31 live artists from across the globe will interact
> with a chosen tree simultaneously for one hour. These durational artworks
> will be accessed via a shared Zoom webinar. Audiences will see artists in
> their landscapes in Africa, Asia, North and South America, and all over
> Europe on the same screen. There will be a live soundscape created from
> tree data via analogue synths playing throughout. Tickets (pay what you
> can) include a donation to plant a rainforest tree.
> I am humbled by the quality of artists taking part in the event!
> This entanglement with nature and technology inspires reciprocity with
> nature and a sense of global kinship with artists and their trees, while
> contributing to reforestation. Tickets: *https://tinyurl.com/y8n3unu3*
> 
>
>
> www.danielleimara.com
> Insta: @danielleimara
> +447903684863
>
>
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in
advance

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labs & debate, for deep exploration, open tools & free thinking.
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research hub

for fairer, more dynamic & connected cultural ecologies & economies now.

decal.is 

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