Re: [NetBehaviour] Potentially Harmful

2016-05-28 Thread Antonio Roberts 
> You've created art that is resistant to media distribution.
>
> In 2016.
>
> That's awesome!
>
> And potential problems are identified by machine -
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harding_test
>
> Which makes this an example of algorithmic critique as well.

Wow, thank you!!! I'd actually be interested in taking this further
and seeing what works pass the Harding Test. Anyone know broadcasting
companies that like working with artists?

> we had recently a conversation on LGM list about this - broadcasting not
> suitable for photo sensitive people - there's some UK based advice on it
> here on flashing images that may cause harm to viewers:
>
> https://www.epilepsy.org.uk/info/photosensitive-epilepsy/triggers
> http://www.ofcom.org.uk/tv/ifi/guidance/bguidance/guidance2.pdf

Thanks for the info!

Antonio




On 25 May 2016 at 19:59, Rob Myers  wrote:
> On Wed, 25 May 2016, at 07:17 AM, Antonio Roberts wrote:
>> I recently made an ident for MTV that was shown everywhere apart from
>> the UK. This was due to the ident containing "Potentially Harmful"
>> content. I've never worked in broadcast before and, whilst I know
>> flashing imagery should be avoided, I didn't know stripes were
>> disallowed.
>
> I wouldn't have thought of that either but stripes moving at speed will
> flash. This is like a car driving through the shadows cast by tree
> branches on a sunny day.
>
>> I've described this whole process here
>> http://www.hellocatfood.com/potentially-harmful/
>>
>> Does this render a lot of glitch art/new media/digital art
>> unboradcastable?
>
> You've created art that is resistant to media distribution.
>
> In 2016.
>
> That's awesome!
>
> And potential problems are identified by machine -
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harding_test
>
> Which makes this an example of algorithmic critique as well.
>
> So to answer your question - more energetic examples of glitch/new media
> would need a certificate.  I wonder if institutions that collect such
> art have access to Harding testing?
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Potentially Harmful

2016-05-25 Thread lara 
we had recently a conversation on LGM list about this - broadcasting not
suitable for photo sensitive people - there's some UK based advice on it
here on flashing images that may cause harm to viewers:

https://www.epilepsy.org.uk/info/photosensitive-epilepsy/triggers
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/tv/ifi/guidance/bguidance/guidance2.pdf

best,
lara

On 26/05/16 01:34, Alan Sondheim wrote:
> 
> There is a very famous case in Japan, of a children's anime which
> created seizures in children; later it was shown on a newscast and even
> more people had them. I've always had to be careful with my own work
> which has flickered at times. - Alan
> 
> 
> On Wed, 25 May 2016, marc garrett wrote:
> 
>> Hi Antonio,
>>
>> Yes, I agree with Rob.
>>
>> You've made yourself extra cool without meaning to ;-)
>>
>> marc
>>
>> On 25 May 2016 at 19:59, Rob Myers  wrote:
>>   On Wed, 25 May 2016, at 07:17 AM, Antonio Roberts wrote:
>>   > I recently made an ident for MTV that was shown everywhere
>>   apart from
>>   > the UK. This was due to the ident containing "Potentially
>>   Harmful"
>>   > content. I've never worked in broadcast before and, whilst I
>>   know
>>   > flashing imagery should be avoided, I didn't know stripes were
>>   > disallowed.
>>
>>   I wouldn't have thought of that either but stripes moving at
>>   speed will
>>   flash. This is like a car driving through the shadows cast by
>>   tree
>>   branches on a sunny day.
>>
>>   > I've described this whole process here
>>   > http://www.hellocatfood.com/potentially-harmful/
>>   >
>>   > Does this render a lot of glitch art/new media/digital art
>>   > unboradcastable?
>>
>>   You've created art that is resistant to media distribution.
>>
>>   In 2016.
>>
>>   That's awesome!
>>
>>   And potential problems are identified by machine -
>>
>>   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harding_test
>>
>>   Which makes this an example of algorithmic critique as well.
>>
>>   So to answer your question - more energetic examples of
>>   glitch/new media
>>   would need a certificate.  I wonder if institutions that collect
>>   such
>>   art have access to Harding testing?
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>> http://www.furtherfield.org - for art, technology and social change since
>> 1996
>>
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>> Finsbury Park, London N4 2NQ
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>> M +44(0)7533676047
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Potentially Harmful

2016-05-25 Thread Alan Sondheim 


There is a very famous case in Japan, of a children's anime which created 
seizures in children; later it was shown on a newscast and even more 
people had them. I've always had to be careful with my own work which has 
flickered at times. - Alan



On Wed, 25 May 2016, marc garrett wrote:


Hi Antonio,

Yes, I agree with Rob.

You've made yourself extra cool without meaning to ;-)

marc

On 25 May 2016 at 19:59, Rob Myers  wrote:
  On Wed, 25 May 2016, at 07:17 AM, Antonio Roberts wrote:
  > I recently made an ident for MTV that was shown everywhere
  apart from
  > the UK. This was due to the ident containing "Potentially
  Harmful"
  > content. I've never worked in broadcast before and, whilst I
  know
  > flashing imagery should be avoided, I didn't know stripes were
  > disallowed.

  I wouldn't have thought of that either but stripes moving at
  speed will
  flash. This is like a car driving through the shadows cast by
  tree
  branches on a sunny day.

  > I've described this whole process here
  > http://www.hellocatfood.com/potentially-harmful/
  >
  > Does this render a lot of glitch art/new media/digital art
  > unboradcastable?

  You've created art that is resistant to media distribution.

  In 2016.

  That's awesome!

  And potential problems are identified by machine -

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harding_test

  Which makes this an example of algorithmic critique as well.

  So to answer your question - more energetic examples of
  glitch/new media
  would need a certificate.  I wonder if institutions that collect
  such
  art have access to Harding testing?
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Potentially Harmful

2016-05-25 Thread Paul Hertz 
Welcome to the grand tradition of Tony Conrad's Flicker films. Still
capable of causing epileptic seizures after all these years.

-- Paul


On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 11:18 PM, marc garrett 
wrote:

> Hi Antonio,
>
> Yes, I agree with Rob.
>
> You've made yourself extra cool without meaning to ;-)
>
> marc
>
> On 25 May 2016 at 19:59, Rob Myers  wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 25 May 2016, at 07:17 AM, Antonio Roberts wrote:
>> > I recently made an ident for MTV that was shown everywhere apart from
>> > the UK. This was due to the ident containing "Potentially Harmful"
>> > content. I've never worked in broadcast before and, whilst I know
>> > flashing imagery should be avoided, I didn't know stripes were
>> > disallowed.
>>
>> I wouldn't have thought of that either but stripes moving at speed will
>> flash. This is like a car driving through the shadows cast by tree
>> branches on a sunny day.
>>
>> > I've described this whole process here
>> > http://www.hellocatfood.com/potentially-harmful/
>> >
>> > Does this render a lot of glitch art/new media/digital art
>> > unboradcastable?
>>
>> You've created art that is resistant to media distribution.
>>
>> In 2016.
>>
>> That's awesome!
>>
>> And potential problems are identified by machine -
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harding_test
>>
>> Which makes this an example of algorithmic critique as well.
>>
>> So to answer your question - more energetic examples of glitch/new media
>> would need a certificate.  I wonder if institutions that collect such
>> art have access to Harding testing?
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Potentially Harmful

2016-05-25 Thread Rob Myers 
On Wed, 25 May 2016, at 07:17 AM, Antonio Roberts wrote:
> I recently made an ident for MTV that was shown everywhere apart from
> the UK. This was due to the ident containing "Potentially Harmful"
> content. I've never worked in broadcast before and, whilst I know
> flashing imagery should be avoided, I didn't know stripes were
> disallowed.

I wouldn't have thought of that either but stripes moving at speed will
flash. This is like a car driving through the shadows cast by tree
branches on a sunny day.

> I've described this whole process here
> http://www.hellocatfood.com/potentially-harmful/
> 
> Does this render a lot of glitch art/new media/digital art
> unboradcastable?

You've created art that is resistant to media distribution.

In 2016.

That's awesome!

And potential problems are identified by machine -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harding_test

Which makes this an example of algorithmic critique as well.

So to answer your question - more energetic examples of glitch/new media
would need a certificate.  I wonder if institutions that collect such
art have access to Harding testing?
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