Re: [NetBehaviour] How to contribute to [Netbehaviour] ada lovelace day
Hi Ann, Thanks for the contribution: ) Re: Have to say that I was a bit stunned to find myself with mails to this list listed by Google. Wouldn't it be nice to let people know before they are invited to join the list? Thanks for flagging this up. It's a good question that, perhaps surprisingly, hasn't really come up before on this list. We will certainly be clearer about this in future whenever we invite people to join. mails appear in Google because they are archived here http://www.mail-archive.com/netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org/ My feeling is that email discussion lists like NetBehaviour are most valuable when they are used as semi-public fora...like an open debating chamber in which lots of people can participate by stumbling across it, lurking and speaking when the spirit moves them; ) but I recognise that this is a different discussion. Anyway thanks again, Ruth http://furtherfield.org Ruth Catlow schrieb: Hi Ann, Thanks for subscribing. Last week, in support of Ada Lovelace Day*, we invited all women who work in media arts and net art to join the Netbehaviour list and tell us about their work and that of other women who have inspired them in their own practice. The call is open for a week between 23rd and 30th March (at midnight) at which point we will compile the list and feature it on Furtherfield.org Posts are welcome in any length, format and frequency and we are not worrying about repeats or gaps. We want to know why you are inspired by the people you are inspired by. It's especially good if you can include links so that if we don't know the work we can go and explore for ourselves. If you want to view all the other inspiring posts before you make your own you can check out the Netbehaviour archives http://www.netbehaviour.org/pipermail/netbehaviour/ **Ada Lovelace Day -bringing women in technology to the fore http://findingada.com/blog/2009/01/05/ada-lovelace-day/ sign a pledge to blog about inspirational women in tech on 24th March. Hope this helps, best things Ruth http://furtherfield.org -Original Message- Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] ada lovelace day Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 23:14:06 +0100 Hi, I feel a bit awkward, but still.. somewhere in the many things I read about Ada Lovelace day it said that all those who blogged about women and tech should subscribe to this list. I did (write and subscribe) and now am confused. What are we to do? Send the names of those we wrote about? And then what is going to happen? Is it only about names, or about the blog posts? Mine is in German: does that make sense? Sorry for the confusion! Anne marc garrett schrieb: Hi Rob, I think in regard to individuals contributing with names already suggested, what would make it even more valid is if a small contextual reason for the suggestion is given - because we all have our own personal reasons why we are influenced by such people. We can all easily add links names, but why are we interested in them? I'm still working on my own list which will be added tomorrow sometime because like many on here life is busy - sheesh, time, time, time! wishing you well. marc On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Ruth Catlow ruth.cat...@furtherfield.org wrote: There's still plenty of time. The call doesn't close till 12 midnight on Monday. That's a relief, as I missed the actual day due to jet lag. :-) I know some people I'm about to mention have already been covered but my personal list would be: Ada Lovelace (the original hacker), Jasia Reichardt (for Cybernetic Serendipity, The Computer in Art, and after), Tessa Elliot (interactive multimedia artist and influential teacher), Tracey Matthieson (online multi-user VR pioneer), Susan Kare (designed the influential original Macintosh icons) - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] How to contribute to [Netbehaviour] ada lovelace day
marc garrett schrieb: I think that it should and it does, much thanks :-) Hey, you aren't making fun of non-anglo accents, are you? Have to say that I was a bit stunned to find myself with mails to this list listed by Google. Wouldn't it be nice to let people know before they are invited to join the list? Are you saying that, if a member on Netbehaviour suggested your name for the Ada Lovelace project, that they should of asked for your permission first? No, I was thinking more that if people are invited to join the list it would be nice to add a sentence that there is a public archive which is indexed by google. I probably would have erased my contact info in the mail signature had I known - but that's not a problem really. Basically I just wanted to raise the question and suggest to change that next time. take care Anne ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] How to contribute to [Netbehaviour] ada lovelace day
Hi Anne, Hey, you aren't making fun of non-anglo accents, are you? No... No, I was thinking more that if people are invited to join the list it would be nice to add a sentence that there is a public archive which is indexed by google. This is definitely worth considering... I probably would have erased my contact info in the mail signature had I known - but that's not a problem really. Basically I just wanted to raise the question and suggest to change that next time. It is an important question and needs to be discussed with users of the list regarding how we should proceed. Once we have dealt with administrating the Ada Lovelace project it may be a good idea to resolve it collaboratively. Much thanks for noticing this :-) marc I think that it should and it does, much thanks :-) Hey, you aren't making fun of non-anglo accents, are you? Have to say that I was a bit stunned to find myself with mails to this list listed by Google. Wouldn't it be nice to let people know before they are invited to join the list? Are you saying that, if a member on Netbehaviour suggested your name for the Ada Lovelace project, that they should of asked for your permission first? No, I was thinking more that if people are invited to join the list it would be nice to add a sentence that there is a public archive which is indexed by google. I probably would have erased my contact info in the mail signature had I known - but that's not a problem really. Basically I just wanted to raise the question and suggest to change that next time. take care Anne ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] How to contribute to [Netbehaviour] ada lovelace day
Hi, I wouldn't consider myself being active in media or net arts, rather activism. Does that still count? In any case I did an Ada Lovelace blog post - in German - (http://annalist.noblogs.org/post/2009/03/25/ada-lovelace-day-star-simpson-and-donna-metzlar) about * Donna Metzlar, activist and (one of the) driving force(s) with the Genderchangers http://www.genderchangers.org/ and Eclectic Tech Carnival, http://eclectictechcarnival.org/ and * Star Simpson, who was arrested at the Boston Airport (and later convicted) for wearing a hoax device, a selfmade LED application (see http://boingboing.net/2007/09/21/mit-student-arrested.html). She described herself in one sentence as I'm an inventor, artist, engineer, and student, I love to learn, build, and do and here are some of the things she built: http://starbur.st/portfolio/ Have to say that I was a bit stunned to find myself with mails to this list listed by Google. Wouldn't it be nice to let people know before they are invited to join the list? best Anne Ruth Catlow schrieb: Hi Ann, Thanks for subscribing. Last week, in support of Ada Lovelace Day*, we invited all women who work in media arts and net art to join the Netbehaviour list and tell us about their work and that of other women who have inspired them in their own practice. The call is open for a week between 23rd and 30th March (at midnight) at which point we will compile the list and feature it on Furtherfield.org Posts are welcome in any length, format and frequency and we are not worrying about repeats or gaps. We want to know why you are inspired by the people you are inspired by. It's especially good if you can include links so that if we don't know the work we can go and explore for ourselves. If you want to view all the other inspiring posts before you make your own you can check out the Netbehaviour archives http://www.netbehaviour.org/pipermail/netbehaviour/ **Ada Lovelace Day -bringing women in technology to the fore http://findingada.com/blog/2009/01/05/ada-lovelace-day/ sign a pledge to blog about inspirational women in tech on 24th March. Hope this helps, best things Ruth http://furtherfield.org -Original Message- From: Anne Roth annal...@riseup.net Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] ada lovelace day Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 23:14:06 +0100 Hi, I feel a bit awkward, but still.. somewhere in the many things I read about Ada Lovelace day it said that all those who blogged about women and tech should subscribe to this list. I did (write and subscribe) and now am confused. What are we to do? Send the names of those we wrote about? And then what is going to happen? Is it only about names, or about the blog posts? Mine is in German: does that make sense? Sorry for the confusion! Anne marc garrett schrieb: Hi Rob, I think in regard to individuals contributing with names already suggested, what would make it even more valid is if a small contextual reason for the suggestion is given - because we all have our own personal reasons why we are influenced by such people. We can all easily add links names, but why are we interested in them? I'm still working on my own list which will be added tomorrow sometime because like many on here life is busy - sheesh, time, time, time! wishing you well. marc On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Ruth Catlow ruth.cat...@furtherfield.org wrote: There's still plenty of time. The call doesn't close till 12 midnight on Monday. That's a relief, as I missed the actual day due to jet lag. :-) I know some people I'm about to mention have already been covered but my personal list would be: Ada Lovelace (the original hacker), Jasia Reichardt (for Cybernetic Serendipity, The Computer in Art, and after), Tessa Elliot (interactive multimedia artist and influential teacher), Tracey Matthieson (online multi-user VR pioneer), Susan Kare (designed the influential original Macintosh icons) - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- http://annalist.noblogs.org annal...@riseup.net GPG http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x69411BDF Jabber annal...@jabber.ccc.de // Skype anne--roth // ICQ 358277360 Privacybox: https://privacybox.de/annalist.msg ___
Re: [NetBehaviour] How to contribute to [Netbehaviour] ada lovelace day
Hi Anne, I wouldn't consider myself being active in media or net arts, rather activism. Does that still count? I think that it should and it does, much thanks :-) Have to say that I was a bit stunned to find myself with mails to this list listed by Google. Wouldn't it be nice to let people know before they are invited to join the list? Are you saying that, if a member on Netbehaviour suggested your name for the Ada Lovelace project, that they should of asked for your permission first? marc Hi, I wouldn't consider myself being active in media or net arts, rather activism. Does that still count? In any case I did an Ada Lovelace blog post - in German - (http://annalist.noblogs.org/post/2009/03/25/ada-lovelace-day-star-simpson-and-donna-metzlar) about * Donna Metzlar, activist and (one of the) driving force(s) with the Genderchangers http://www.genderchangers.org/ and Eclectic Tech Carnival, http://eclectictechcarnival.org/ and * Star Simpson, who was arrested at the Boston Airport (and later convicted) for wearing a hoax device, a selfmade LED application (see http://boingboing.net/2007/09/21/mit-student-arrested.html). She described herself in one sentence as I'm an inventor, artist, engineer, and student, I love to learn, build, and do and here are some of the things she built: http://starbur.st/portfolio/ Have to say that I was a bit stunned to find myself with mails to this list listed by Google. Wouldn't it be nice to let people know before they are invited to join the list? best Anne Ruth Catlow schrieb: Hi Ann, Thanks for subscribing. Last week, in support of Ada Lovelace Day*, we invited all women who work in media arts and net art to join the Netbehaviour list and tell us about their work and that of other women who have inspired them in their own practice. The call is open for a week between 23rd and 30th March (at midnight) at which point we will compile the list and feature it on Furtherfield.org Posts are welcome in any length, format and frequency and we are not worrying about repeats or gaps. We want to know why you are inspired by the people you are inspired by. It's especially good if you can include links so that if we don't know the work we can go and explore for ourselves. If you want to view all the other inspiring posts before you make your own you can check out the Netbehaviour archives http://www.netbehaviour.org/pipermail/netbehaviour/ **Ada Lovelace Day -bringing women in technology to the fore http://findingada.com/blog/2009/01/05/ada-lovelace-day/ sign a pledge to blog about inspirational women in tech on 24th March. Hope this helps, best things Ruth http://furtherfield.org -Original Message- From: Anne Roth annal...@riseup.net Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] ada lovelace day Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 23:14:06 +0100 Hi, I feel a bit awkward, but still.. somewhere in the many things I read about Ada Lovelace day it said that all those who blogged about women and tech should subscribe to this list. I did (write and subscribe) and now am confused. What are we to do? Send the names of those we wrote about? And then what is going to happen? Is it only about names, or about the blog posts? Mine is in German: does that make sense? Sorry for the confusion! Anne marc garrett schrieb: Hi Rob, I think in regard to individuals contributing with names already suggested, what would make it even more valid is if a small contextual reason for the suggestion is given - because we all have our own personal reasons why we are influenced by such people. We can all easily add links names, but why are we interested in them? I'm still working on my own list which will be added tomorrow sometime because like many on here life is busy - sheesh, time, time, time! wishing you well. marc On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Ruth Catlow ruth.cat...@furtherfield.org wrote: There's still plenty of time. The call doesn't close till 12 midnight on Monday. That's a relief, as I missed the actual day due to jet lag. :-) I know some people I'm about to mention have already been covered but my personal list would be: Ada Lovelace (the original hacker), Jasia Reichardt (for Cybernetic Serendipity, The Computer in Art, and after), Tessa Elliot (interactive multimedia artist and influential teacher), Tracey Matthieson (online multi-user VR pioneer), Susan Kare (designed the influential original Macintosh icons) - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org