Re: [NetBehaviour] How to contribute to [Netbehaviour] ada lovelace day

2009-03-31 Thread Ruth Catlow
Hi Ann,

Thanks for the contribution: )

Re:
Have to say that I was a bit stunned to find myself with mails to this
list listed by Google. Wouldn't it be nice to let people know before
they are invited to join the list?

Thanks for flagging this up. It's a good question that, perhaps
surprisingly, hasn't really come up before on this list. We will
certainly be clearer about this in future whenever we invite people to
join. 

mails appear in Google because they are archived here
http://www.mail-archive.com/netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org/

My feeling is that email discussion lists like NetBehaviour are most
valuable when they are used as semi-public fora...like an open debating
chamber in which lots of people can participate by stumbling across it,
lurking and speaking when the spirit moves them; ) but I recognise that
this is a different discussion.

Anyway thanks again,

Ruth

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Ruth Catlow schrieb:
 Hi Ann,
 
 Thanks for subscribing. Last week, in support of Ada Lovelace Day*, we
 invited all women who work in media arts and net art to join the
 Netbehaviour list and tell us about their work and that of other women
 who have inspired them in their own practice.  
 
 The call is open for a week between 23rd and 30th March (at midnight) at
 which point we will compile the list and feature it on Furtherfield.org
 
 Posts are welcome in any length, format and frequency and we are not
 worrying about repeats or gaps. We want to know why you are inspired by
 the people you are inspired by. It's especially good if you can include
 links so that if we don't know the work we can go and explore for
 ourselves.
 
 If you want to view all the other inspiring posts before you make your
 own you can check out the Netbehaviour archives
 http://www.netbehaviour.org/pipermail/netbehaviour/
 
 **Ada Lovelace Day -bringing women in technology to the fore
 http://findingada.com/blog/2009/01/05/ada-lovelace-day/ 
 sign a pledge to blog about inspirational women in tech on 24th March.
 
 Hope this helps,
 
 best things
 Ruth
 
 http://furtherfield.org
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
 netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org
 To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
 netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org
 Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] ada lovelace day
 Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 23:14:06 +0100
 
 Hi,
 
 I feel a bit awkward, but still..
 
 somewhere in the many things I read about Ada Lovelace day it said that
 all those who blogged about women and tech should subscribe to this
 list. I did (write and subscribe) and now am confused. What are we to
 do? Send the names of those we wrote about? And then what is going to
 happen? Is it only about names, or about the blog posts? Mine is in
 German: does that make sense?
 
 Sorry for the confusion!
 Anne
 
 
 
 marc garrett schrieb:
 Hi Rob,

 I think in regard to individuals contributing with names already 
 suggested, what would make it even more valid is if a small contextual 
 reason for the suggestion is given - because we all have our own 
 personal reasons why we are influenced by such people.

 We can all easily add links  names, but why are we interested in them?

 I'm still working on my own list which will be added tomorrow sometime 
 because like many on here life is busy - sheesh, time, time, time!

 wishing you well.

 marc
 On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Ruth Catlow
 ruth.cat...@furtherfield.org wrote:
   
 There's still plenty of time.
 The call doesn't close till 12 midnight on Monday.
 
 That's a relief, as I missed the actual day due to jet lag. :-)

 I know some people I'm about to mention have already been covered but
 my personal list would be:

 Ada Lovelace (the original hacker),
 Jasia Reichardt (for Cybernetic Serendipity, The Computer in Art, and 
 after),
 Tessa Elliot (interactive multimedia artist and influential teacher),
 Tracey Matthieson (online multi-user VR pioneer),
 Susan Kare (designed the influential original Macintosh icons)

 - Rob.
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Re: [NetBehaviour] How to contribute to [Netbehaviour] ada lovelace day

2009-03-31 Thread Anne Roth
marc garrett schrieb:
 
 I think that it should and it does, much thanks :-)

Hey, you aren't making fun of non-anglo accents, are you?
 
 
  Have to say that I was a bit stunned to find myself with mails to this
  list listed by Google. Wouldn't it be nice to let people know before
  they are invited to join the list?
 
 Are you saying that, if a member on Netbehaviour suggested your name for 
 the Ada Lovelace project, that they should of asked for your permission 
 first?

No, I was thinking more that if people are invited to join the list it
would be nice to add a sentence that there is a public archive which is
indexed by google.

I probably would have erased my contact info in the mail signature had I
known - but that's not a problem really. Basically I just wanted to
raise the question and suggest to change that next time.

take care
Anne
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Re: [NetBehaviour] How to contribute to [Netbehaviour] ada lovelace day

2009-03-31 Thread marc garrett
Hi Anne,

 Hey, you aren't making fun of non-anglo accents, are you?

No...

 No, I was thinking more that if people are invited to join the list it
 would be nice to add a sentence that there is a public archive which is
 indexed by google.

This is definitely worth considering...

 I probably would have erased my contact info in the mail signature had I
 known - but that's not a problem really. Basically I just wanted to
 raise the question and suggest to change that next time.

It is an important question and needs to be discussed with users of the 
list regarding how we should proceed.

Once we have dealt with administrating the Ada Lovelace project it may 
be a good idea to resolve it collaboratively.

Much thanks for noticing this :-)

marc




  
   I think that it should and it does, much thanks  :-)

Hey, you aren't making fun of non-anglo accents, are you?
  
  
Have to say that I was a bit stunned to find myself with mails to 
this
list listed by Google. Wouldn't it be nice to let people know before
they are invited to join the list?
  
   Are you saying that, if a member on Netbehaviour suggested your 
name for
   the Ada Lovelace project, that they should of asked for your 
permission
   first?

No, I was thinking more that if people are invited to join the list it
would be nice to add a sentence that there is a public archive which is
indexed by google.

I probably would have erased my contact info in the mail signature had I
known - but that's not a problem really. Basically I just wanted to
raise the question and suggest to change that next time.

take care
Anne
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Re: [NetBehaviour] How to contribute to [Netbehaviour] ada lovelace day

2009-03-30 Thread Anne Roth
Hi,

I wouldn't consider myself being active in media or net arts, rather
activism. Does that still count?

In any case I did an Ada Lovelace blog post - in German -
(http://annalist.noblogs.org/post/2009/03/25/ada-lovelace-day-star-simpson-and-donna-metzlar)

about

* Donna Metzlar, activist and (one of the) driving force(s) with the
Genderchangers http://www.genderchangers.org/ and Eclectic Tech
Carnival, http://eclectictechcarnival.org/

and

* Star Simpson, who was arrested at the Boston Airport (and later
convicted) for wearing a hoax device, a selfmade LED application (see
http://boingboing.net/2007/09/21/mit-student-arrested.html). She
described herself in one sentence as I'm an inventor, artist, engineer,
and student, I love to learn, build, and do and here are some of the
things she built: http://starbur.st/portfolio/


Have to say that I was a bit stunned to find myself with mails to this
list listed by Google. Wouldn't it be nice to let people know before
they are invited to join the list?

best
Anne






Ruth Catlow schrieb:
 Hi Ann,
 
 Thanks for subscribing. Last week, in support of Ada Lovelace Day*, we
 invited all women who work in media arts and net art to join the
 Netbehaviour list and tell us about their work and that of other women
 who have inspired them in their own practice.  
 
 The call is open for a week between 23rd and 30th March (at midnight) at
 which point we will compile the list and feature it on Furtherfield.org
 
 Posts are welcome in any length, format and frequency and we are not
 worrying about repeats or gaps. We want to know why you are inspired by
 the people you are inspired by. It's especially good if you can include
 links so that if we don't know the work we can go and explore for
 ourselves.
 
 If you want to view all the other inspiring posts before you make your
 own you can check out the Netbehaviour archives
 http://www.netbehaviour.org/pipermail/netbehaviour/
 
 **Ada Lovelace Day -bringing women in technology to the fore
 http://findingada.com/blog/2009/01/05/ada-lovelace-day/ 
 sign a pledge to blog about inspirational women in tech on 24th March.
 
 Hope this helps,
 
 best things
 Ruth
 
 http://furtherfield.org
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Anne Roth annal...@riseup.net
 Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
 netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org
 To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
 netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org
 Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] ada lovelace day
 Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 23:14:06 +0100
 
 Hi,
 
 I feel a bit awkward, but still..
 
 somewhere in the many things I read about Ada Lovelace day it said that
 all those who blogged about women and tech should subscribe to this
 list. I did (write and subscribe) and now am confused. What are we to
 do? Send the names of those we wrote about? And then what is going to
 happen? Is it only about names, or about the blog posts? Mine is in
 German: does that make sense?
 
 Sorry for the confusion!
 Anne
 
 
 
 marc garrett schrieb:
 Hi Rob,

 I think in regard to individuals contributing with names already 
 suggested, what would make it even more valid is if a small contextual 
 reason for the suggestion is given - because we all have our own 
 personal reasons why we are influenced by such people.

 We can all easily add links  names, but why are we interested in them?

 I'm still working on my own list which will be added tomorrow sometime 
 because like many on here life is busy - sheesh, time, time, time!

 wishing you well.

 marc
 On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Ruth Catlow
 ruth.cat...@furtherfield.org wrote:
   
 There's still plenty of time.
 The call doesn't close till 12 midnight on Monday.
 
 That's a relief, as I missed the actual day due to jet lag. :-)

 I know some people I'm about to mention have already been covered but
 my personal list would be:

 Ada Lovelace (the original hacker),
 Jasia Reichardt (for Cybernetic Serendipity, The Computer in Art, and 
 after),
 Tessa Elliot (interactive multimedia artist and influential teacher),
 Tracey Matthieson (online multi-user VR pioneer),
 Susan Kare (designed the influential original Macintosh icons)

 - Rob.
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Re: [NetBehaviour] How to contribute to [Netbehaviour] ada lovelace day

2009-03-30 Thread marc garrett
Hi Anne,

 I wouldn't consider myself being active in media or net arts, rather
activism. Does that still count?

I think that it should and it does, much thanks :-)


 Have to say that I was a bit stunned to find myself with mails to this
 list listed by Google. Wouldn't it be nice to let people know before
 they are invited to join the list?

Are you saying that, if a member on Netbehaviour suggested your name for 
the Ada Lovelace project, that they should of asked for your permission 
first?

marc



Hi,

I wouldn't consider myself being active in media or net arts, rather
activism. Does that still count?

In any case I did an Ada Lovelace blog post - in German -
(http://annalist.noblogs.org/post/2009/03/25/ada-lovelace-day-star-simpson-and-donna-metzlar)

about

* Donna Metzlar, activist and (one of the) driving force(s) with the
Genderchangers http://www.genderchangers.org/ and Eclectic Tech
Carnival, http://eclectictechcarnival.org/

and

* Star Simpson, who was arrested at the Boston Airport (and later
convicted) for wearing a hoax device, a selfmade LED application (see
http://boingboing.net/2007/09/21/mit-student-arrested.html). She
described herself in one sentence as I'm an inventor, artist, engineer,
and student, I love to learn, build, and do and here are some of the
things she built: http://starbur.st/portfolio/


Have to say that I was a bit stunned to find myself with mails to this
list listed by Google. Wouldn't it be nice to let people know before
they are invited to join the list?

best
Anne






Ruth Catlow schrieb:
   Hi Ann,
  
   Thanks for subscribing. Last week, in support of Ada Lovelace Day*, we
   invited all women who work in media arts and net art to join the
   Netbehaviour list and tell us about their work and that of other women
   who have inspired them in their own practice.
  
   The call is open for a week between 23rd and 30th March (at 
midnight) at
   which point we will compile the list and feature it on Furtherfield.org
  
   Posts are welcome in any length, format and frequency and we are not
   worrying about repeats or gaps. We want to know why you are inspired by
   the people you are inspired by. It's especially good if you can include
   links so that if we don't know the work we can go and explore for
   ourselves.
  
   If you want to view all the other inspiring posts before you make your
   own you can check out the Netbehaviour archives
   http://www.netbehaviour.org/pipermail/netbehaviour/
  
   **Ada Lovelace Day -bringing women in technology to the fore
   http://findingada.com/blog/2009/01/05/ada-lovelace-day/
   sign a pledge to blog about inspirational women in tech on 24th March.
  
   Hope this helps,
  
   best things
   Ruth
  
   http://furtherfield.org
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Anne Roth annal...@riseup.net
   Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
   netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org
   To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
   netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org
   Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] ada lovelace day
   Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 23:14:06 +0100
  
   Hi,
  
   I feel a bit awkward, but still..
  
   somewhere in the many things I read about Ada Lovelace day it said that
   all those who blogged about women and tech should subscribe to this
   list. I did (write and subscribe) and now am confused. What are we to
   do? Send the names of those we wrote about? And then what is going to
   happen? Is it only about names, or about the blog posts? Mine is in
   German: does that make sense?
  
   Sorry for the confusion!
   Anne
  
  
  
   marc garrett schrieb:
   Hi Rob,
  
   I think in regard to individuals contributing with names already
   suggested, what would make it even more valid is if a small 
contextual
   reason for the suggestion is given - because we all have our own
   personal reasons why we are influenced by such people.
  
   We can all easily add links  names, but why are we interested in 
them?
  
   I'm still working on my own list which will be added tomorrow 
sometime
   because like many on here life is busy - sheesh, time, time, time!
  
   wishing you well.
  
   marc
   On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Ruth Catlow
   ruth.cat...@furtherfield.org wrote:
  
   There's still plenty of time.
   The call doesn't close till 12 midnight on Monday.
  
   That's a relief, as I missed the actual day due to jet lag. :-)
  
   I know some people I'm about to mention have already been 
covered but
   my personal list would be:
  
   Ada Lovelace (the original hacker),
   Jasia Reichardt (for Cybernetic Serendipity, The Computer in 
Art, and after),
   Tessa Elliot (interactive multimedia artist and influential 
teacher),
   Tracey Matthieson (online multi-user VR pioneer),
   Susan Kare (designed the influential original Macintosh icons)
  
   - Rob.
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