Re: [NetBehaviour] DREAM/WE COULD BE SHOCKED V/
On 15/01/12 12:15, manik wrote: ...OUR MAINSTREAM DREAM...WE COULD BE SHOCKED...MANIK...JANUARY...2012... I am shocked to find that I *can* be shocked. This brutality is therefore civilising for me. - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] DREAM/WE COULD BE SHOCKED V/
...WHITE WOMAN'S HAND WITH MANICURE TROW AND CUT IN SOME 'NOWHERE' LAND *IS* SHOCKED...NOT IN SAME WAY AS WE WHERE SHOCKED BY BARBARIAN KILLING GADAFY OR CUTTING FISH HEAD...MANIK EXAMINE WHERE'S /OF IS THERE ANY/LIMIT OF PSYCHOLOGICAL FACT *TO BE SHOCKED*...VIOLENCE IS ACT IN 'EMPTY SPACE' OF HUMAN BEHAVIOR...IN THAT SPACE ALL ETHIC OR HUMANITY DISAPPEAR AND EXACTLY THAT SHORTAGE GIVE DIFFERENT ALIBI TO PEOPLE...LIKE-''I WAS SHOCKED'',OR''IT WAS TO MUCH FOR ME'',OR ''MY NERVE WERE TOO WEAK''...BASIC MAN INCLINE TO VIOLENCE /MAYBE...EVEN/ MORE THAN TO GOOD ...AND WITH RISE THRESHOLD OF ACCEPTABLE 'SHOCK' PEOPLE LOOK FOR MORE AND MORE BIZARRE BECAUSE''...This brutality is therefore civilising for me.''...THAT'S SIGNIFICANT,BECAUSE ONE OF OUR FRIEND GET TO WORK SCENOGRAPHY IN IRANIAN FILM...IN ONE CLAUSE IN HIS CONTRACT WAS THAT HE NEVER 'RISE VOICE ON HIS ASSOCIATE'...AFTER YEAR AND HALF SPEND IN IRAN HIS IMPRESSION WERE ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE...''GOD ATMOSPHERE,GENTLENESS AND NICE MANNER...THAT'S WHAT HE UNDERLINE...BEFORE FEW DECADES THAT COUNTRY WAS IN HORRIBLE WAR WITH IRAQ...IS THAT GENERAL RULE TO REACH MOST BRUTAL LIFE TO REALIZE PREFERENCE OF PEACEABLE/?/...WE HAVE SERIOUS PROBLEM TO FIND ON OUR CABLE TV SOME FILM WITHOUT VIOLENCE...IS THAT JUST 'ART' OR PSYCHOLOGICAL/IDEOLOGICAL PREPARATION TO GET THAT *IN LIVE*/IN SERBIA...AGAIN.../OR IN WORLD/?/... MANIK...JANUARY...2012... - Original Message - From: Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] DREAM/WE COULD BE SHOCKED V/ On 15/01/12 12:15, manik wrote: ...OUR MAINSTREAM DREAM...WE COULD BE SHOCKED...MANIK...JANUARY...2012... I am shocked to find that I *can* be shocked. This brutality is therefore civilising for me. - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] dream
Michael, It's interesting to learn where you were and what you filmed - and how irrelevant it is! The music transforms it into an elegy, for me an emotive meditation on solitude. The mysterious dark rock at the water's edge appears like the image in a dream. The stillness and simplicity of the piece is touching. Bob From: Michael Szpakowski szp...@yahoo.com To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Sent: Mon, 6 June, 2011 23:44:32 Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] dream Thank-you Bob! I see what you mean about reversing the editing. I can see that it could work. I think it's the way it is because I didn't really have a plan and the order of shots is simply the order I shot them in ( although the zoom out is digital). I quite like the feel of us homing in on the figure but it being very blurred and us not being sure what is going on - for me it suggests general human fragility and also calls to mind the equally fragile black and white TV of my early childhood -, then *recovering* the wide view as he trudges home. It was shot on a beach in Madeira a few weeks ago - I was sitting drinking a coffee watching the sea and the guy fishing. There's a load of meaning layered up, by the music editing, on top of that simple fact I called it 'dream' as a deliberate courting of the paradoxical.. how *could* it be my, or his or anyone's dream? and yet, in a way, for me..it is.. Enough! Thanks! m. --- On Mon, 6/6/11, bob catchpole bobcatchp...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: bob catchpole bobcatchp...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] dream To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Date: Monday, June 6, 2011, 9:00 PM Michael, It's a beautiful, haunting piece. The dramatic setting and the plaintive music communicates movingly the inner emotions of the tiny human figure in the frame... solitude, yearning and resilience are all mixed up in there. Since the piece is essentially two shots have you considered starting with the second? Which would mean revealing the full view gradually and then staying with it to the end. A different dream? Bob Michael Szpakowski wroteSat, 4 June, 2011 17:01:07 Subject: [NetBehaviour] dream http://youtu.be/k56IjLmVs70 or as QuickTime here: http://www.somedancersandmusicians.com/vlog/ScenesOfProvincialLife.cgi/2011/06/01#post434 cheers michael -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] dream
Thanks again Bob. As anyone on this list will testify, its always a delight when someone looks and thinks carefully about something one has made... warmest wishes michael --- On Tue, 6/7/11, bob catchpole bobcatchp...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: bob catchpole bobcatchp...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] dream To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 10:40 AM Michael, It's interesting to learn where you were and what you filmed - and how irrelevant it is! The music transforms it into an elegy, for me an emotive meditation on solitude. The mysterious dark rock at the water's edge appears like the image in a dream. The stillness and simplicity of the piece is touching. Bob From: Michael Szpakowski szp...@yahoo.com To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Sent: Mon, 6 June, 2011 23:44:32 Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] dream Thank-you Bob! I see what you mean about reversing the editing. I can see that it could work. I think it's the way it is because I didn't really have a plan and the order of shots is simply the order I shot them in ( although the zoom out is digital). I quite like the feel of us homing in on the figure but it being very blurred and us not being sure what is going on - for me it suggests general human fragility and also calls to mind the equally fragile black and white TV of my early childhood -, then *recovering* the wide view as he trudges home. It was shot on a beach in Madeira a few weeks ago - I was sitting drinking a coffee watching the sea and the guy fishing. There's a load of meaning layered up, by the music editing, on top of that simple fact I called it 'dream' as a deliberate courting of the paradoxical.. how *could* it be my, or his or anyone's dream? and yet, in a way, for me..it is.. Enough! Thanks! m. --- On Mon, 6/6/11, bob catchpole bobcatchp...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: bob catchpole bobcatchp...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] dream To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Date: Monday, June 6, 2011, 9:00 PM Michael, It's a beautiful, haunting piece. The dramatic setting and the plaintive music communicates movingly the inner emotions of the tiny human figure in the frame... solitude, yearning and resilience are all mixed up in there. Since the piece is essentially two shots have you considered starting with the second? Which would mean revealing the full view gradually and then staying with it to the end. A different dream? Bob Michael Szpakowski wrote Sat, 4 June, 2011 17:01:07 Subject: [NetBehaviour] dream http://youtu.be/k56IjLmVs70 or as QuickTime here: http://www.somedancersandmusicians.com/vlog/ScenesOfProvincialLife.cgi/2011/06/01#post434 cheers michael -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] dream
Michael, It's a beautiful, haunting piece. The dramatic setting and the plaintive music communicates movingly the inner emotions of the tiny human figure in the frame... solitude, yearning and resilience are all mixed up in there. Since the piece is essentially two shots have you considered starting with the second? Which would mean revealing the full view gradually and then staying with it to the end. A different dream? Bob Michael Szpakowski wroteSat, 4 June, 2011 17:01:07 Subject: [NetBehaviour] dream http://youtu.be/k56IjLmVs70 or as QuickTime here: http://www.somedancersandmusicians.com/vlog/ScenesOfProvincialLife.cgi/2011/06/01#post434 cheers michael___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] dream
Thank-you Bob! I see what you mean about reversing the editing. I can see that it could work. I think it's the way it is because I didn't really have a plan and the order of shots is simply the order I shot them in ( although the zoom out is digital). I quite like the feel of us homing in on the figure but it being very blurred and us not being sure what is going on - for me it suggests general human fragility and also calls to mind the equally fragile black and white TV of my early childhood -, then *recovering* the wide view as he trudges home. It was shot on a beach in Madeira a few weeks ago - I was sitting drinking a coffee watching the sea and the guy fishing. There's a load of meaning layered up, by the music editing, on top of that simple fact I called it 'dream' as a deliberate courting of the paradoxical.. how *could* it be my, or his or anyone's dream? and yet, in a way, for me..it is.. Enough! Thanks! m. --- On Mon, 6/6/11, bob catchpole bobcatchp...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: bob catchpole bobcatchp...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] dream To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Date: Monday, June 6, 2011, 9:00 PM Michael, It's a beautiful, haunting piece. The dramatic setting and the plaintive music communicates movingly the inner emotions of the tiny human figure in the frame... solitude, yearning and resilience are all mixed up in there. Since the piece is essentially two shots have you considered starting with the second? Which would mean revealing the full view gradually and then staying with it to the end. A different dream? Bob Michael Szpakowski wrote Sat, 4 June, 2011 17:01:07 Subject: [NetBehaviour] dream http://youtu.be/k56IjLmVs70 or as QuickTime here: http://www.somedancersandmusicians.com/vlog/ScenesOfProvincialLife.cgi/2011/06/01#post434 cheers michael -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
