BBC weather site using hige amounts of memory.

2009-09-29 Thread Dr Peter Young
I imagine that this is the fault of what seems to be a thoroughly 
bloated site rather than of NetSurf, but I'd like an expert opinion, 
particularly as to whether I should submit a bug report.

Loading http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/2174?area=GL52 as the 
first page on a 500MB Iyonix (RISC OS 5.14 and NetSurf r9597) with 
FreeMem initially reporting 425MB free, reduces the free memory to 
286MB, with warnings that NetSurf is running out of memory. There are 
also a lot of Error converting png messages during the loading, 
which takes well over 30 seconds.

I have the log file if it's considered worth reporting this on the bug 
tracker.

I'm glad that metcheck.com has at last sorted out its problems, as I 
can get trouble-free forecasts from this site.

With best wishes,

Peter.

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Re: BBC weather site using hige amounts of memory.

2009-09-29 Thread Michael Drake
In article cd3479a250.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk,
   Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote:
 I imagine that this is the fault of what seems to be a thoroughly 
 bloated site rather than of NetSurf, but I'd like an expert opinion, 
 particularly as to whether I should submit a bug report.

 Loading http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/2174?area=GL52

We have known cache problems at the moment, which causes NetSurf to eat up
a lot of memory.

In any case, a bug report with sufficient details never does any harm and
can often do some good. :)

Best regards,

Michael

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Re: BBC weather site using hige amounts of memory.

2009-09-29 Thread Dr Peter Young
On 29 Sep 2009  Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:

 In article cd3479a250.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk,
Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote:
 I imagine that this is the fault of what seems to be a thoroughly
 bloated site rather than of NetSurf, but I'd like an expert opinion,
 particularly as to whether I should submit a bug report.

 Loading http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/2174?area=GL52

 We have known cache problems at the moment, which causes NetSurf to eat up
 a lot of memory.

 In any case, a bug report with sufficient details never does any harm and
 can often do some good. :)

OK, will do tomorrow. Thanks.

With best wishes,

Peter.

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Re: BBC weather site using hige amounts of memory.

2009-09-29 Thread John-Mark Bell
On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 19:14 +0100, Michael Drake wrote:
 In article cd3479a250.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk,
Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote:
  I imagine that this is the fault of what seems to be a thoroughly 
  bloated site rather than of NetSurf, but I'd like an expert opinion, 
  particularly as to whether I should submit a bug report.
 
  Loading http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/2174?area=GL52
 
 We have known cache problems at the moment, which causes NetSurf to eat up
 a lot of memory.
 
 In any case, a bug report with sufficient details never does any harm and
 can often do some good. :)

In this particular case, there is little point in reporting it on the
bug tracker. We already know what the problem is, even if the fix is
decidedly non-trivial. More tickets on the tracker just adds to our
workload when triaging them.

If, however, you encounter NetSurf warning about a lack of memory when
it's using very little (i.e. its main dynamic area is smaller than
128MB), then we do want such reports please.


John.




Re: BBC weather site using hige amounts of memory.

2009-09-29 Thread Richard Porter
On 29 Sep 2009 Dr Peter Young wrote:

 I imagine that this is the fault of what seems to be a thoroughly
 bloated site rather than of NetSurf, but I'd like an expert opinion,
 particularly as to whether I should submit a bug report.

 Loading http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/2174?area=GL52 as the
 first page on a 500MB Iyonix (RISC OS 5.14 and NetSurf r9597) with
 FreeMem initially reporting 425MB free, reduces the free memory to
 286MB, with warnings that NetSurf is running out of memory. There are
 also a lot of Error converting png messages during the loading,
 which takes well over 30 seconds.

It seems to work OK on my RiscPC but NS has an 84MB DA which it 
doesn't release when the window is closed.

This page does show up one of the most irritating features of NS - it 
it's formatting a page with a lot of graphics, and especially if you 
scroll down, the whole page dances up and down for many seconds. It 
didn't used to do this and it's really not acceptable. Why can't it 
work out how much space it needs for images if it's told, or do the 
whole lot in one go if it isn't?
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Re: BBC weather site using hige amounts of memory.

2009-09-29 Thread Russell Hafter - Lists
In article 1254248739.23233.15.ca...@duiker, John-Mark
Bell j...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:

  In any case, a bug report with sufficient details never
  does any harm and can often do some good. :)

 In this particular case, there is little point in
 reporting it on the bug tracker. We already know what the
 problem is, even if the fix is decidedly non-trivial.
 More tickets on the tracker just adds to our workload
 when triaging them.

 If, however, you encounter NetSurf warning about a lack
 of memory when it's using very little (i.e. its main
 dynamic area is smaller than 128MB), then we do want such
 reports please.

NetSurf is not complaining, but should it have five separate
Dynamic Areas at once? 424K, 420K, 448K and 13 536K and with
no window opening?

Opening a window www.xe.com actually removes one of the
dynamic areas of 4xxK, and once the page is fully loaded a
second Dynamic area disappears. No changes to the sizes.

Closing the window does not release any memory. 

This is r8240 though (used because of the memory leaking
problems with later versions).

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Re: BBC weather site using hige amounts of memory.

2009-09-29 Thread Dr Peter Young
On 29 Sep 2009  John-Mark Bell j...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:

 On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 19:14 +0100, Michael Drake wrote:
 In article cd3479a250.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk,
Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote:
 I imagine that this is the fault of what seems to be a thoroughly
 bloated site rather than of NetSurf, but I'd like an expert opinion,
 particularly as to whether I should submit a bug report.
 
 Loading http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/2174?area=GL52
 
 We have known cache problems at the moment, which causes NetSurf to eat up
 a lot of memory.
 
 In any case, a bug report with sufficient details never does any harm and
 can often do some good. :)

 In this particular case, there is little point in reporting it on the
 bug tracker. We already know what the problem is, even if the fix is
 decidedly non-trivial. More tickets on the tracker just adds to our
 workload when triaging them.

 If, however, you encounter NetSurf warning about a lack of memory when
 it's using very little (i.e. its main dynamic area is smaller than
 128MB), then we do want such reports please.

OK, I'll look into this further, and will put in a bug report only if 
necessary; thanks.

What about the error converting png thing, however? Is this the 
fault of the site?

With best wishes,

Peter.

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Anne\/ ____\  England.
and / /  \ | | |\ | /  _\  http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
family /  \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk