Re: CSS position not supported workaround
In message 52ef307005t...@netsurf-browser.org Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: Originally this was because there was no way to implement it in a way that would give satisfactory performance e.g. on peoples' RiscPCs. It forces a serious penalty on scrolling pages that use it. Would it be possible to have a faster but less accurate setting that can be used on lower powered machines? -- Jess
Hi I have just noticed that there is a facebook page for Netsurf. How about including a link to it on the opening page? (Obviously to the mobile version of the page.) For anyone who wasn't aware https://m.facebook.com is quite usable on Netsurf (and possibly preferable to using timeline on a javascript browser.) -- Jess
Re: facebook
In message bb1fdbe952.harr...@blueyonder.co.uk Harriet Bazley li...@orange.wingsandbeaks.org.uk wrote: https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=107891609231789refid=46 Yes, that's it. Though I notice it doesn't have a proper name in the url yet. -- Jess
Re: Text box edit
In message 52e5a3f861d...@triffid.co.uk Dave Symes d...@triffid.co.uk wrote: Me, logged in done a couple of transactions and logged out. She, still only partway through the login process. In fairness, I bet the laptop isn't ten years old. -- Jess
Re: Text box edit
In message 40657.87.115.161.96.1351428330.squirrel@webmail2.orpheusne t.co.uk Dave Lawton li...@etcsystems.co.uk wrote: These sites used to complain at the lack of Javascript in NetSurf, but do so no longer. Perhaps those responsible for security have finally cottoned on to the fact that allowing scripts from an unknown third party to run on a computer (i.e. random websites) is a major security hole. -- Jess
Re: Text box edit
In message 52e512dff0d...@triffid.co.uk Dave Symes d...@triffid.co.uk wrote: FWIW. I still use NetSurf on RO for a few bits and bobs, but recently the final nails started to fall when LTSB reworked their online banking site a short while back and it became impossible (due to lack of scripting) to do much there other than view the site. What doesn't it do? I've not noticed anything stop working. (I refuse to do anything financial, where scripting is involved.) -- Jess
Re: Text box edit
In message 52e55560eerh.li...@phone.coop Russell Hafter - Lists rh.li...@phone.coop wrote: I've not noticed anything stop working. (I refuse to do anything financial, where scripting is involved.) Which bank(s) in Europe do you know that do not use any kind of scripting and can be guaranteed not to, ever? I have not found Lloyd's blocking me from doing anything I have wanted online. If they did, then I would stop using the online service and go into the branch, or perhaps use the phone service. I was more referring to purchases. If I can't buy it with scripts disabled, I'll try the phone (providing it's a geographic or freephone). Failing that, I'll try a competitor. If it annoys me enough I'll complain to the site. Sometimes that yields a result. -- Jess
Re: Google + -Your Browser is no longer supported
In message ca7d9fe352.supe...@albenito.eclipse2k.freeserve.co.uk Allan Bennett alben...@eclipse2k.freeserve.co.uk wrote: There is a Tell us how we're doing feedback button - very quick to complete, though I don't know how much notice they will take... I took a screenshot, transferred it to a PC, posted it and submitted feedback, highlighting the screenshot. -- Jess
Text box edit
Hi Would it be possible to have an option to use the system editor to edit text boxes? (Also it would be nice to have a system to set the mode.) It would be nice to be able to use StrongEd's mail mode on gmail, for example. Thanks -- Jess
Re: Text box edit
In message 52e4b8a23cli...@torrens.org.uk Richard Torrens (lists) li...@torrens.org.uk wrote: I frequently use StrongED to edit text: then mark it and drag and drop into Netsurf. So do I. Not sure how anyhting in Netsurf could make this simpler? Where it is no use is when a text box appears ready filled. The sort of thing I was thinking of, was a menu item over text boxes that sent the contents to an external editor, in much the same way as messenger pro used to. (it would also be nice to have options for what the editor sees it as.) -- Jess
Re: Text box edit
In message e5e2bae452.r...@user.minijem.plus.com Richard Porter r...@minijem.plus.com wrote: Yes, there are long-standing problems with editing in a textarea, especially if you try to cut and paste text. The cursor sits on the line below where the text would go, which is most confusing if you're not prepared for it. There is also a nasty gotcha where if you drag a text file into the textarea NS just opens the file in the main window thereby losing the form that you were completing. It seems a bit of a waste of effort to make the editor really polished, when system editors already offer the required functionality. -- Jess
Re: Google + -Your Browser is no longer supported
In message ee9d9ee352.iyoj...@rickman.argonet.co.uk John Rickman Iyonix rick...@argonet.co.uk wrote: Is this a good case for faking the User-Agent string? Possibly a good case for dismissing Google plus as an irrelevance. Facebook can be used with NS -- Jess
Re: Geminus
In message b832055052.c.n@virgin.net ChrisF c.n@virgin.net wrote: What settings should work correctly with geminus on an Iyonix? Not sure what you mean. Geminus has 3 acceleration options which can be individually selected on a per app basis. (Should Netsurf work correctly with all accelerations activated for it?) Netsurf has limitations which are a constant source of tasks for the guys who work on it. However, I use R13065 at the moment and it is stable as far as I am concerned. Geminus and Netsurf have never conflicted on my computer. I have some issues with my machine at present, and wish to find out if Netsurf would be expected to work correctly with all the geminus accelerations enabled. Thanks -- Jess
Search oddity on r13075 (plus at least 1 version prior)
Hi When I try and search for text on a web page, the dialogue box accepts the first letter and then disappears are searches for just that letter. Does anyone else have this issue? (Iyonix on both 5.16 and 5.17) It works correctly on the default homepage. On the positive side, I successfully did my voter registration online with it. -- Jess
Re: Speed
In message 51a40d4023t...@netsurf-browser.org Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: Out of interest, what speed do you get if you set incremental_reflow to 0 in the Choices file? If your test pages have changed, please test again with the original settings first. I've changed that on mine and it seems fast, however the performance problem I find with Netsurf is that it single tasks and interferes with sound and video replay. Are there setting that can be changed? (I don't mind if as a result of such a change, it is a bit slower) -- Jess
Re: NetSurf and LTSB
In message 51767b8c3ed...@triffid.co.uk Dave Symes d...@triffid.co.uk wrote: On 15 Nov, d...@triffid.co.uk wrote: I see the activation button in the LloydsTSB Memorable info entry page has vanished again when used in NS. [snip] How exceedingly weird. When I logged in to LTSB 6:15 AM ish the button was missing, when Fay logged in at around 7:00 AM ish, the button was still missing (We are using different versions of NS BTW) I've just this minute logged in again 9:18 AM and the button is back. I wonder if the mimetype was wrong on the image and they fixed it. Lloyds generally seems to be a good site (better than 3D Secure, that won't work without javascript - they might as well say we deliver by securicorps, but you must leave your door unlocked for them.) Perhaps they monitor gmane automatically for any mentions of their site. -- Jess
Re: Lloyds banking login problem
In message 20101011153929.gc23...@rjek.com Rob Kendrick r...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 04:25:20PM +0100, Jess Hampshire wrote: Has anyone else noticed a problem with the new Lloyds Internet Banking. I am unable to log in. The memorable information screen has no continue button. Works for me in nsgtk. Can't see an obvious reason why it might not appear from a quick glance. I just tried again today, and it works fine. No changes this end. Perhaps they had an oddity they fixed, (one that NS on RO 5 took exception to.) thanks -- Jess
Missing Image
Hi This page shows no main image http://www.fmylife.com/miscellaneous/13146881 The page apears to have a GIF that is incorrectly typed as a JPEG. There is also no alt text, so Netsurf is probably not in the wrong. However this sort of stupid mistake is quite common, and other browsers are less fussy. Would it be possible to have a display option to be less fussy about mime types? I request an *option* not a wholesale change, because, obviously it is a potential security issue, and also when Netsurf is pedantic about errors like this, it makes it very useful for checking sites under development. Alternatively, is there any way to show where the image should be and download the missing object? As an aside, while I am thinking of downloads, is there any chance of getting the old saved name system reinstated as an option. (where the save name was generated from the path, rather than the actual file name.) cheers -- Jess
Re: Missing Image
In message d330096551.old_coas...@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk Tony Moore old_coas...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On 12 Oct 2010, Jess Hampshire jesshampsh...@googlemail.com wrote: [snip] Alternatively, is there any way to show where the image should be and download the missing object? Full-save the page from NetSurf, then open the 'index' file in a text editor, and search for jpg . (Images which have been correctly displayed by NetSurf will have lost their file extensions.) The object can than be downloaded from its url. Change the file extension as appropriate, and copy the file into the full-save directory. Edit the 'index' file so that it links to the image in the full full-save directory. Loading the full-save should then show the 'missing' image, in the correct place. Thanks, but the flaw in that, is that when I try to download it, NS tells me it's not a jpeg. -- Jess
Re: Missing Image
In message ada1126551.old_coas...@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk Tony Moore old_coas...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: In that case, create an html file containing only that link, eg a href=bogus url herelink to bogus file/a run the html file in NetSurf, then shift-select-click, to download the file, rather than display it. I had thought of that one, but opening the page (or the graphic link) in phoenix is simpler, and displays the thing I want. What I was hoping for would be an option for a bad image icon or text, that would allow the normal object menu to be used. Or perhaps a list of all objects on the page that could be used. -- Jess
Re: Missing Image
In message 9821156551.old_coas...@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk Tony Moore old_coas...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On 12 Oct 2010, Jess Hampshire jesshampsh...@googlemail.com wrote: Or perhaps a list of all objects on the page that could be used. The 'inventory' file already contains the urls of objects actually displayed. Maybe the errored objects could be added to that list. Why not submit a feature request, if you feel strongly about it? I probably will, but it needs to be thought about, so it is sensible. What I am thinking of is on the Page submenu, and objects menu that has a list of all the parts of the current page (failed objects in italics perhaps) selecting an item would present a save box for the object. It would be nice to have a similar links option that has all the links in a page (and all the urls that are not in anchor tags, too), and clicking would follow them. (Might help with stupid javascript navigation.) -- Jess
Lloyds banking login problem
Hi Has anyone else noticed a problem with the new Lloyds Internet Banking. I am unable to log in. The memorable information screen has no continue button. (It does not appear to be a javascript problem, because it works with noscript on firefox) -- Jess
Re: Style sheets
In message 51193a8428li...@torrens.org.uk Richard Torrens (lists) li...@torrens.org.uk wrote: Reloading a document does not appear to re-load the style-sheet. Is this intentional, an oversight or a bug? Isn't it adjust for a complete reload, and select for a quick one (presumably not including the style sheet)? -- Jess
RE: Google Summer of Code Roundup
On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 00:08 +0100, aw29...@gmail.com wrote: In message 1253105573.5804.236.ca...@duiker John-Mark Bell j...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: The RISC OS frontend does not have active maintenance, which is the problem. Does a front end require a c programmer or would for example it be possible to do in basic? (Not that I have suitable skills in any language.) -- Jess Please don't leave my whole message in your reply. mailto:jesshampsh...@googlemail.com (also facebook myspace)
Re: Google Summer of Code Roundup
2009/9/17 John-Mark Bell j...@netsurf-browser.org: I don't understand this line of questioning. For NetSurf to be more useful generally, it requires much work to be carried out on the core engine. Improvements to the core engine benefit every platform on which NetSurf is available. Therefore, it should be blatently obvious that, if I have less time available for NetSurf development, then the time I do have should be spent on the core, as it gives maximum return for the investment made. I guess is depends on the reason you do it. If it is just to produce a technically good program then obviously there is no question to the logic. However if the reason is to get Netsurf used on the maximum number of desktops, then it is not so clear. You have a pretty captive audience on RISC OS, most people who want to browse would use it. (And to be honest, I prefer the RISC OS version of Netsurf to any other browser for the sites it works with) But for other platforms what is the situation? I have it installed on Linux Mint, and usually use firefox instead. Do you have statistics for the use of Netsurf? Obviously if the RISC OS use is only a tiny proportion of total use, then obviously your logic is still sound. cheers -- Jess -- Jess Please don't leave my whole message in your reply. mailto:jesshampsh...@googlemail.com (also facebook myspace)
Mobile sites
Hi I would like to point out for anyone who wasn't aware, Netsurf makes a decent job of mobile sites, such as http://m.facebook.com http://m.ebuddy.com These sites usually provide useful alternatives to the javascript requiring main sites. They generally need to be resized, though. (Would an automatic resize option for mobile sites be a viable feature request?) Thanks -- Jess
Re: Link colour
2009/3/14 Richard Porter r...@minijem.plus.com: with all other browsers in that respect. Compatibility problems arise when background colours are specified in html and foreground colours in CSS, or vice-versa. Netsurf seems to guarantee problems for any straight html site with a dark background colour or image. As far as I can tell, if colours aren't specified, then default colours are used. Would it be better to calculate sensible values instead? (This would not solve the problem completely, but it would make some pages work, that previously don't.) -- Jess Please don't leave my whole message in your reply. mailto:jesshampsh...@googlemail.com (also facebook myspace)
Re: Website that crashes NS.
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jess Hampshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jess Hampshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have found a site the repeatably crashes NS (Both the current riscpkg version and 1.2) http://www.jessops.com/Downloads/Cameras Does this crash for everyone? v5223 seems OK on this site. Thanks -- Jess Hampshire mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jess.itworkshop-nexus.net Plain text emails with interleaved, trimmed replies please. (RFC 1855)
Re: Ebay - unable to bid
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Philip H Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clicking on the bid button on an Ebay auction page sends me to the Invalid Item page, rather than the log-in page or, if already logged in, to the link page for final bid confirmation. I don't know when this fault commenced as I had a gap in keeping up-to-date with development versions. r4376 (17th June) works whereas r5066 (12th August) and later versions exhibit the behavior given in the first paragraph. Is anyone else suffering this behavior or am I the only person bidding on Ebay?:-) I got that, but I just assumed the item had been withdrawn, perhaps it wasn't. -- Jess http://jess.itworkshop-nexus.net
Re: Website that crashes NS.
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jess Hampshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have found a site the repeatably crashes NS (Both the current riscpkg version and 1.2) http://www.jessops.com/Downloads/Cameras Does this crash for everyone? I notice with the latest two (riscpkg) updates the nature of the crash has changed, it requires a scroll before the crash occurs. Would the developers like a bug report (or is it a common enough bug that that would be redundant)? I have saved a logfile. -- Jess http://jess.itworkshop-nexus.net
Website that crashes NS.
Hi I have found a site the repeatably crashes NS (Both the current riscpkg version and 1.2) http://www.jessops.com/Downloads/Cameras Does this crash for everyone? -- Jess http://jess.itworkshop-nexus.net
Re: Report attached as requested
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] John-Mark Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clearly Rob's posting wasn't clear enough, seeing as you've missed the point of it :) Or I've not made my point clearly. My take on the situation is that the log being discussed was sent in direct response to the request that Netsurf itself makes when it dies. The issue is not that bugs are being reported -- we're very grateful for that. It is, instead, that a Log file on its own does not constitute a bug report. There are many things the Log file can tell us, but a description of the exact things the user was doing when the fault occurred can often be equally, if not more, useful. The bug tracker, despite its faults, does at least result in some context being given. So far, the bugs@ mail alias has not (even when we've replied to mails sent to that address asking for context). Therefore, we've shut it down until such time as a better solution is forthcoming. Could you not embed the questions you want answered at the top of the log file? (and put the reporting address underneath, so at least the user has to read the questions about context first.) You could even put chevrons in front of the questions so it looks like an email. -- Jess http://jess.itworkshop-nexus.net
Re: Report attached as requested
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rob Kendrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please do not email us log files from crashed sessions of NetSurf with zero context. We did not request the log, as suggested in your subject line, nor any of the previous dozen. It is not helpful in the I suspect that is his (reasonable) interpretation of the error box. least, and wastes our and your time. Please either use the bug tracker, or report issues on this mailing list. You may be requested to send us the log file /after/ you have done this. Perhaps you could replace the error message with something as clear as this posting? -- Jess http://jess.itworkshop-nexus.net
Re: Website
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] m David Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pleas could SKS have a look at http://greatyarmouthhistory.com and tell me what is wrong with the site before I contact the owner, who recognises problems with Firefox and other browsers. http://validator.w3.org It's in a frame - the actual site is http://yourlocalhistory.com The site fails validation: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fyourlocalhistory.com%2Fcharset=( detect+automatically)doctype=Inlinegroup=0 It appears to be using tables for page layout, which is asking for trouble. It seems to have filenames with spaces, which can be an issue on some systems. There a bit much for my liking on one page. I'd like to make him aware of NetSurf. It seems to work with Netsurf. It's just not a very well thought out site. -- Jess http://jess.itworkshop-nexus.net
Re: Jittery NetSurf
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] James Bursa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 06:18:51PM +0100, Andrew Hodgkinson wrote: Yes, but you're still squandering CPU cycles on unnecessary reformats caused by NetSurf failing to allocate space for images even when the image has a fixed width and height, even if those intermediate redraw stages are double-buffered (which actually just slows you down even *more*, of course). I never understood why NS ignores image sizes. Ignoring the size makes it possible to display the entire alt text without it being cropped to the size of the image, so the page is more useful while images are loading. Essentially img src=... alt=NetSurf is treated like object data=...NetSurf/object. Could this be made a user choice? How useful each behaviour is depends on both the machine rendering speed and the time taken to download images. (eg A7000 on fast broadband vs. Iyonix on slow dial-up) -- Jess http://jess.itworkshop-nexus.net
Re: Jittery NetSurf
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Richard Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15 Jul 2008 Jess Hampshire wrote: James Bursa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Ignoring the size makes it possible to display the entire alt text without it being cropped to the size of the image, so the page is more useful while images are loading. Essentially img src=... alt=NetSurf is treated like object data=...NetSurf/object. Could this be made a user choice? How useful each behaviour is depends on both the machine rendering speed and the time taken to download images. Viewing the alt text during formatting is of limited usefulness. My If a site is written correctly and you have a slow connection and a fast browser then it could be a help. preference would be allocate the right amount of space when it is known. Given the number of sites with stupid alt text, if a user option were not a possibility, I too would prefer space being allocated. However, some people might like the current situation and it would be nicer to have it optional. (It's annoying when features disappear, like the old leaf name system.)
Re: Googlemail
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Barry E Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Googlemail seems to have become broken under Netsurf. On trying to sign in the URL bar appears to alternative endlessly. Try:- https://mail.google.com/mail?hl=en Thanks - do we know if this is a bug? Could the link be added to the netsurf start page, please? -- Jess http://jess.itworkshop-nexus.net
Problem with open DNS - iframe
Hi I'm using openDNS at home, but the automatic search facility doesn't display correctly with netsurf. I've trimmed down the page to a minimal one that shows the error. htmlbody iframe frameborder=0 src=http://guide.opendns.com/controller.php?url=riscosopen.netref=; width=100% height=100%/iframe /body /html Changing the height to 600 makes it work. Is this an error in the html or a bug? (ie should the 100% mean 100% of the height the of the window or 100% of nothing?) cheers -- Jess http://jess.itworkshop-nexus.net
Paying with paypal
Hi I can use paypal to pay for ebay items if I use Netsurf 1 (an old copy), but it doesn't work if I try it with the current version (from riscpkg). (On the current version I don't land on the correct page, as though it's corrupting the url it's requesting.) Does anyone else have the same problem? RO5.11 -- Jess http://jess.itworkshop-nexus.net
Myspace not showing images.
Hi I just tried looking at some pictures a friend sent a link for on myspace. Netsurf wouldn't display them. I think somehow the mimetype is not being set correctly. (I have seen the same problem with myspace behind a corporate firewall, some images had no mime type and were blocked.) Going direct to the image url displayed them as text and saving and setting type to jpeg allowed me to see the image. Is there any way around this issue? (I sent an email to myspace months ago when I saw the problem previously, no response of course.) Would an option to reload page ignoring mimetypes and believing file extensions be possible/desirable? -- Jess http://jess.itworkshop-nexus.net
Re: Multitasking (not)
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tony Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 21 Oct 2007, David J. Ruck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 20 Oct 2007 Jess Hampshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have noticed that sometimes Netsurf singletasks. Well thats really going to help developers track down the circumstances. It's been discussed before. Single-tasking occurs whenever objects are fetched from a secondary url - two timers appear in the status bar and NetSurf single-tasks until the second timer completes, or times-out. I thought that a bug report had been filed, but I cannot find it for now. I hadn't pinned down the circumstances, I hadn't thought of it as a bug as such, but if it is, it'll be nice when it's fixed. I was assuming it was just the way things are, (due to CMT in the OS), and wondering if there were any settings that would help, (presumably slowing down the browser a little in the process) -- Jess http://jess.itworkshop-nexus.net
Re: Would this be a sensible feature request?
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kevin Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jess Hampshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Text areas to be able to be edited in the system editor (perhaps by double clicking on them.) If this were feasible it would make things like googlemail quite usable (especially with stronged\zap in email mode). You could do what I do which is to use stronged then drag the stronged window into the text area writeable field. Tha's only half the problem. When you reply on google mail (for example) you have all the quoted text and sig already in the box. If this could be loaded into the system editor, then saved back into the text area after editing, it would make things much smoother. Googlemail would then actually be very usable on NS. -- Jess http://jess.itworkshop-nexus.net
Re: Would this be a sensible feature request?
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kevin Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jess Hampshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that the latest version of Hermes from Rcomp works with google mail, if I remember the release notes with the latest email update. It does on my main system, quite happilly But I use NS on a Mico elsewhere. -- Jess http://jess.itworkshop-nexus.net
Multitasking (not)
Hi I have noticed that sometimes Netsurf singletasks. When using a slow machine like a Mico, this can tie up the machine for quite a long time, but even on an Iyonix can occasionally be awkward. Is there any setting to change this? -- Jess http://jess.itworkshop-nexus.net
Re: Themes
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gavin Wraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I note that the NSTheme tool has not been updated since 2005 and does not recognize the up icon - it is no big deal, because it just gives a warning. I have made a theme from Arvid Axelsson's new icons for Mozilla Thunderbird. I posted it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but have had no response as yet. If anybody is interested they can email me. I'd like to see that, but I'm happy to wait a few days for it to appear on the official page. -- Jess http://jess.itworkshop-nexus.net
