Re: Sourceforge
In article 8ecaf06e53@abbeypress.net, Jim Nagel nets...@abbeypress.co.uk wrote: Michael Drake wrote on 7 Jul: Has anyone managed to submit a new bug report with NetSurf since SourceForge changed their site? Any upshot from this, Michael? Noone replied, so I assume it doesn't work in NetSurf now. I'll raise the issue when the developers meet on Aug 10th, if nothing's been sorted out by then. -- Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
Re: Sourceforge
Michael Drake wrote on 7 Jul: Has anyone managed to submit a new bug report with NetSurf since SourceForge changed their site? Any upshot from this, Michael? -- Jim Nagelwww.archivemag.co.uk
Re: Sourceforge
Richard Porter wrote on 5 Jul: On 5 Jul 2013 Jim Nagel wrote: And, while on the subject of Sourceforge, does its print really need to be so tiny, given the acres of white space? And does the print need to be grey rather than black? (Is this grey a current fashion among website designers or is it my eyesight?!? If grey, I presume it is controlled by something in CSS.) That sort of thing is annoying. I like Oregano's option to disable Use document colours. Pity we haven't got something similar in NS. I probably raised it as a feature request in the dim and distant past. I have confirmation from somebody who knows more about CSS than I do: Yeah, most text color seems to be set to #55 or #5e5e5e. So the tiny text on the Sourceforge page IS grey. The unanswerable question then is: For pity's sake, Why? I also asked him: Is there something in the Sourceforge CSS that prevents linelength from changing when the window is resized? The pages have fixed widths, so they're ignoring the width of the browser window. I had a good moan to him: Tiny grey text amid acres of blank page is a real peeve, especially for people whose eyesight is no longer that of a 23-year-old. And it seems to be a widespread fashion among web-designers for the past couple of years. G. You could use a user stylesheet to override that kind of thing if you like. -- Jim Nagelwww.archivemag.co.uk
Re: Sourceforge
On 5 Jul 2013 as I do recall, Jim Nagel wrote: Peter young wrote: Is there a way we can help the developers by reporting bugs now? Dave Lawton wrote on 5 Jul: You need to 'Login' [at Sourceforge], then you will find a 'Create Ticket' button has been added on the LHS. Did that. Checked back an hour or two later, and my report is not listed on the bugs page at Sourceforge, so did it again. Clicked Save (does that mean Submit?), and up comes this page*: www.archivemag.co.uk/JN/TEMP/NS-sourceforge.html Hardly helpful. I already know I am logged in. I want to know whether my submission has been successful or not. I'm stymied. Less than user-friendly, imho. Perhaps Netsurf is not displaying the Sourceforge page correctly, and we are missing something vital? Same here - I just tried to report a bug. Clicking on 'Preview' (cautiously, with Adjust) appeared simply to open a new blanked version of the form, ticking the 'I would like to add an attachment' icon didn't allow me to add an attachment (I hoped this might appear at a second stage of the submission process, as it didn't do anything when initially selected), and clicking on Save took me back to the log-in screen without any new entry showing up in the list. Page source is full of JavaScript, but I can't tell how much of it is essential to operation It doesn't look as if Netsurf users are going to be reporting many bugs using Netsurf. -- Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie == Dawn: The time when men of reason go to bed.
Re: Sourceforge
On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 20:23:20 +1200, Harriet Bazley li...@orange.wingsandbeaks.org.uk wrote: On 5 Jul 2013 as I do recall, Jim Nagel wrote: Peter young wrote: Is there a way we can help the developers by reporting bugs now? Dave Lawton wrote on 5 Jul: You need to 'Login' [at Sourceforge], then you will find a 'Create Ticket' button has been added on the LHS. Did that. Checked back an hour or two later, and my report is not listed on the bugs page at Sourceforge, so did it again. Clicked Save (does that mean Submit?), and up comes this page*: www.archivemag.co.uk/JN/TEMP/NS-sourceforge.html Hardly helpful. I already know I am logged in. I want to know whether my submission has been successful or not. I'm stymied. Less than user-friendly, imho. Perhaps Netsurf is not displaying the Sourceforge page correctly, and we are missing something vital? Same here - I just tried to report a bug. Clicking on 'Preview' (cautiously, with Adjust) appeared simply to open a new blanked version of the form, ticking the 'I would like to add an attachment' icon didn't allow me to add an attachment (I hoped this might appear at a second stage of the submission process, as it didn't do anything when initially selected), and clicking on Save took me back to the log-in screen without any new entry showing up in the list. Page source is full of JavaScript, but I can't tell how much of it is essential to operation It doesn't look as if Netsurf users are going to be reporting many bugs using Netsurf. Same here, couldn't attach the logfile. Alan
Sourceforge
Has anyone managed to submit a new bug report with NetSurf since SourceForge changed their site? -- Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
Sourceforge
What's happened to Sourceforge? It's virtually unusable now. The help page tells me to click on Submit new but it's nowhere to be found on the bugs page. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Sourceforge
On 5 Jul 2013 Richard Porter r...@minijem.plus.com wrote: What's happened to Sourceforge? It's virtually unusable now. The help page tells me to click on Submit new but it's nowhere to be found on the bugs page. I don't know if you're seeing the same thing as I am, but the URL https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=addgroup_id=51719atid=464312 used to take you to the add a bug page (Can't remember what the correct name is), but it now takes you to the list of bugs instead. This has, as you say, no obvious way of adding a bug. I did try this URL in Windows Firefox, and the same thing happens there. Is there a way we can help the developers by reporting bugs now? With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Sourceforge
On Fri, 5 July, 2013 12:03 pm, Peter Young wrote: On 5 Jul 2013 Richard Porter r...@minijem.plus.com wrote: What's happened to Sourceforge? It's virtually unusable now. The help page tells me to click on Submit new but it's nowhere to be found on the bugs page. I don't know if you're seeing the same thing as I am, but the URL https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=addgroup_id=51719atid=464312 used to take you to the add a bug page (Can't remember what the correct name is), but it now takes you to the list of bugs instead. This has, as you say, no obvious way of adding a bug. I did try this URL in Windows Firefox, and the same thing happens there. Is there a way we can help the developers by reporting bugs now? With best wishes, Peter. Hi, You need to 'Login', then you will find a 'Create Ticket' button has been added on the LHS. HTH -- Regards, Dave Lawton HTML emails are just a security risk, and nobody needs that.
Re: Sourceforge
On 5 Jul 2013 Dave Lawton li...@etcsystems.co.uk wrote: On Fri, 5 July, 2013 12:03 pm, Peter Young wrote: On 5 Jul 2013 Richard Porter r...@minijem.plus.com wrote: What's happened to Sourceforge? It's virtually unusable now. The help page tells me to click on Submit new but it's nowhere to be found on the bugs page. I don't know if you're seeing the same thing as I am, but the URL https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=addgroup_id=51719atid=464312 used to take you to the add a bug page (Can't remember what the correct name is), but it now takes you to the list of bugs instead. This has, as you say, no obvious way of adding a bug. I did try this URL in Windows Firefox, and the same thing happens there. Is there a way we can help the developers by reporting bugs now? With best wishes, Peter. Hi, You need to 'Login', then you will find a 'Create Ticket' button has been added on the LHS. So there is! I did try logging in to see if it made a difference, but didn't notice the Create ticket. Presumably this means that people without a Sourceforge account can't submit bug reports any more, which is a pity, At least they now have Save instead of that awful Add artifact! With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Sourceforge
On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 12:52:51PM +0100, Peter Young wrote: Presumably this means that people without a Sourceforge account can't submit bug reports any more, which is a pity, At least we get identifying marks and a way to contact the author with every bug report now though. D. -- Daniel Silverstone http://www.netsurf-browser.org/ PGP mail accepted and encouraged.Key Id: 3CCE BABE 206C 3B69
Re: Sourceforge
Dave Lawton wrote on 5 Jul: You need to 'Login', then you will find a 'Create Ticket' button has been added on the LHS. Maybe this useful info could be added to Netsurf's own help page -- http://www.netsurf-browser.org/documentation/info -- which tells you how to report a bug. (Is this page wiki-editable or is it only the Netsurf team who can do it? A link direct to the relevant point in Sourceforge would be welcome.) I've just finished floundering my way through the Sourceforge process before discovering this thread on the mailinglist. Am still unsure whether my report got posted on Sourceforge or not or twice. Its Preview button didn't give any reassurance. And, while on the subject of Sourceforge, does its print really need to be so tiny, given the acres of white space? And does the print need to be grey rather than black? (Is this grey a current fashion among website designers or is it my eyesight?!? If grey, I presume it is controlled by something in CSS.) -- Jim Nagelwww.archivemag.co.uk before emailing large files (1Mb), please ask me for FTP details See you at Kenilworth? www.mug.riscos.org/show13 July 13
Re: Sourceforge
On 5 Jul 2013 Jim Nagel wrote: And, while on the subject of Sourceforge, does its print really need to be so tiny, given the acres of white space? And does the print need to be grey rather than black? (Is this grey a current fashion among website designers or is it my eyesight?!? If grey, I presume it is controlled by something in CSS.) That sort of thing is annoying. I like Oregano's option to disable Use document colours. Pity we haven't got something similar in NS. I probably raised it as a feature request in the dim and distant past. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Sourceforge
Peter young wrote: Is there a way we can help the developers by reporting bugs now? Dave Lawton wrote on 5 Jul: You need to 'Login' [at Sourceforge], then you will find a 'Create Ticket' button has been added on the LHS. Did that. Checked back an hour or two later, and my report is not listed on the bugs page at Sourceforge, so did it again. Clicked Save (does that mean Submit?), and up comes this page*: www.archivemag.co.uk/JN/TEMP/NS-sourceforge.html Hardly helpful. I already know I am logged in. I want to know whether my submission has been successful or not. I'm stymied. Less than user-friendly, imho. Perhaps Netsurf is not displaying the Sourceforge page correctly, and we are missing something vital? While we're on about Sourceforge, could someone already familiar with its workings please explain to us in the cheap seats what OpenID is all about? This page says OpenID eliminates the need for multiple usernames across different websites. Does that mean different Sourceforge websites or what? *The tiny grey print in acres of blank space is a separate topick. -- Jim Nagelwww.archivemag.co.uk
Re: Sourceforge
On Fri, 05 Jul 2013 16:22:09 +0100, Jim Nagel wrote: While we're on about Sourceforge, could someone already familiar with its workings please explain to us in the cheap seats what OpenID is all about? This page says OpenID eliminates the need for multiple usernames across different websites. Does that mean different Sourceforge websites or what? It's an authentication system that works on any site that supports it. The idea is that you can choose your own OpenID provider, and use that to log in on any website (well, as long as that website supports OpenID). It hasn't taken off in a big way, but it largely operates (from a user perspective at least) the same as the log in with Facebook, Log in with Twitter, Log in with my Google Account etc buttons a lot of sites have. I quite like the one on Sourceforge, as they used to force password changes quite often, and logging in with an OpenID circumvented that. However, unless they've changed it recently, you can't actually log in with an OpenID on Sourceforge if you're using NetSurf. Chris
New sourceforge bug form completely unusable
I am completely unable to add a comment to a bug report on Sourceforge. When I post the comment I get error 302 followed by 404 if I click the link. I wanted to reply to report 1453 - crash when closing window while page is loading. I'm getting this too. I clicked Adjust accidentally and closed the resulting blank window. NetSurf crashed with a segmentation fault. I can supply a log if necessary, except that I can't attach it to someone else's bug report (and I can't do anything with the new Sourceforge interface). -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Ctrl-arrow keys confused / Sourceforge
Steve Fryatt wrote on 17 Feb: You've said this before; have you submitted a bug report? Had nil response last time I said it. Have put bug-report on Sourceforge page now. (Sourceforge takes a little getting-head-round. A feature request I submitted some while ago was marked 5, which in the absence of any explanation I took to mean 5 messages in the thread, but could not figure out how to read the thread. In fact I could not tell whether this item in the list was the feature request I had submitted or whether it was a similar idea from somebody else -- a lot of folks there seem to be called Nobody.) -- Jim Nagelwww.archivemag.co.uk
Re: Ctrl-arrow keys confused / Sourceforge
On 17 Feb 2013 Jim Nagel nets...@abbeypress.co.uk wrote: Steve Fryatt wrote on 17 Feb: You've said this before; have you submitted a bug report? Had nil response last time I said it. Have put bug-report on Sourceforge page now. (Sourceforge takes a little getting-head-round. A feature request I submitted some while ago was marked 5, which in the absence of any explanation I took to mean 5 messages in the thread, but could not figure out how to read the thread. In fact I could not tell whether this item in the list was the feature request I had submitted or whether it was a similar idea from somebody else -- a lot of folks there seem to be called Nobody.) I think the 5 is a measure of priority, on a scale of one to ten. Five seems to be the default. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Sourceforge passwords
Wonderful... you can't use Netsurf to reset the Sourceforge passwords to access the Netsurf bug tracker :-( (Unless I'm missing something.) https://sourceforge.net/account/registration/recover.php -- Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie == Questions are a burden to others, but answers are a prison for oneself.
Re: Sourceforge passwords
On 29 Jan 2011 Harriet Bazley wrote: Wonderful... you can't use Netsurf to reset the Sourceforge passwords to access the Netsurf bug tracker :-( (Unless I'm missing something.) https://sourceforge.net/account/registration/recover.php I sent a message to their support email address and they initiated a password reset for me. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
Re: Sourceforge passwords
On 29 Jan 2011 Harriet Bazley harriet.baz...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Wonderful... you can't use Netsurf to reset the Sourceforge passwords to access the Netsurf bug tracker :-( (Unless I'm missing something.) https://sourceforge.net/account/registration/recover.php No you're not missing anything; I had to go to Windows to do this. The page seems to be stuffed with JavaScript. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Sourceforge home page
The Netsurf Sourceforge page http://sourceforge.net/projects/netsurf/ appears to be all but blank (the only visible links are to Summary, Tracker and Download). Exporting the page as text reveals that there is in fact quite a lot of content there (including what is presumably a link to Feature Requests, the section I was looking for!), but I can't find any of the links even by the usual method of waving my mouse pointer about over a seemingly-blank page. -- Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie == USER ERROR: replace user and press any key to continue.
Re: Sourceforge home page
On 3 Mar, Harriet Bazley wrote: The Netsurf Sourceforge page http://sourceforge.net/projects/netsurf/ appears to be all but blank (the only visible links are to Summary, Tracker and Download). Exporting the page as text reveals that there is in fact quite a lot of content there (including what is presumably a link to Feature Requests, the section I was looking for!), but I can't find any of the links even by the usual method of waving my mouse pointer about over a seemingly-blank page. I think you may not have waited long enough for the page to finish loading. IIRC you use a dial-up connection. Here, on 8Mb ADSL, it took about 2 minutes for the Sourceforge page to finish loading and display. I tested it on Firefox 3 on Windows, and it loaded much quicker, however there are large chunks of JavaScript which are used for a fancy tabbed display. I reckon NetSurf makes a decent fist of displaying such rubbish, but it is slow. BTW, I heartily endorse your feature request... ;) -- Brian Howlett -- This place would be a paradise tomorrow, if every department had a supervisor with a sub-machine gun.
Sourceforge down?
I can't get any response from sourceforge.net this morning. -- _ |_|. _ Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/ |\_||_mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sourceforge down?
On 30 Apr 2008 Dr Peter Young wrote: On 30 Apr 2008 Paul Vigay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a dim and distant universe [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] enlightened us thusly: I can't get any response from sourceforge.net this morning. Nor can I. Just been trying to download the latest SquirrelMail, although I did successfully download NetSurf about half an hour ago. Seems to be there now. You're lucky. I'm still not getting any response. It resolves but fails to connect to the server. Possibly an intermittent fault. -- _ |_|. _ Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/ |\_||_mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sourceforge down?
On Wed, 2008-04-30 at 10:30 +0100, Paul Vigay wrote: In a dim and distant universe [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] enlightened us thusly: I can't get any response from sourceforge.net this morning. Nor can I. Just been trying to download the latest SquirrelMail, although I did successfully download NetSurf about half an hour ago. NetSurf downloads are not hosted on SourceForge, so it being down will have no effect on your ability to download NetSurf. The only thing we use SourceForge for is the bug tracker - and we're working to replace that. B.
Re: Sourceforge down?
Quoting Richard Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I can't get any response from sourceforge.net this morning. I can't get any response from Slashdot either. Is there some commonality? Dave
Re: Sourceforge down?
On Wed, 2008-04-30 at 11:44 +0100, dave higton wrote: Quoting Richard Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I can't get any response from sourceforge.net this morning. I can't get any response from Slashdot either. Is there some commonality? Slashdot, Sourceforge, Freshmeat, NewsForge and others are all owned by the same organisation. I imagine they've had some sort of networking difficulty to take them all out of action. B.
