Re: even Wikipedia times out now

[David H Wild]

In article ,
   Andrew Pinder  wrote:
> A couple of pages that come up blank even with JS off:
> https://www.ryanair.com/en/questions/photo-id/
> https://www.ryanair.com/en/terms-and-conditions/regulations-traveldocumentation/

> Build #2962 on ARMini RO 5.22
This is still true with 2969 on RO6.2

-- 
David Wild using RISC OS on broadband
www.davidhwild.me.uk

Re: even Wikipedia times out now

[Andrew Pinder]

In message <20151002084212.gb11...@kyllikki.org>
 on 2 Oct 2015 Vincent Sanders  wrote:

> The bugtracker is always available, please feel free to report issues
> in development builds. Please do not be offended if we close them with
> "we know" but in the same breath we do apreciate you taking the time.

A couple of pages that come up blank even with JS off:
https://www.ryanair.com/en/questions/photo-id/
https://www.ryanair.com/en/terms-and-conditions/regulations-traveldocumentation/

Build #2962 on ARMini RO 5.22


Regards

Andrew
-- 
Andrew Pinder

Re: even Wikipedia times out now

[Peter Young]

On 2 Oct 2015  Vincent Sanders  wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 01, 2015 at 10:03:56PM +0100, Jim Nagel wrote:
>> It seems that Netsurf now times out even for Wikipedia.
>> Try this page:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritzing
>> 
>> Hourglass goes on forever, though it least it does not tie up the
>> whole machine.
>> 
>> Go to Netsurf iconbar choices, Content, Disable Javascript,
>> and try the Wikipedia page again.  Now it loads no problem.
>> 
>> (Netsurf #2964 on Iyonix with Ro 5.18)
>> 
>> Anybody else see the same behaviour?

> The bugtracker is always available, please feel free to report issues
> in development builds. Please do not be offended if we close them with
> "we know" but in the same breath we do apreciate you taking the time.

> In this case you managed to give me an easy to reproduce testcase and
> I found and slaughtered the bug, fix is in #2968

> The issue was to do with asyncronous javascript script completion
> handling. Basically javascript handling is mad and you found a case I
> had not covered.

Many thanks, and I'm glad that my suspicion that it was something 
wrong with my system has been disproved. Pages now loading like 
lightning, and it looks as if the problem reported my me as bug 
0002274 has been solved too.

Best wishes,

Peter.

-- 
Peter Young (zfc Os) and family
Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
pnyo...@ormail.co.uk

Re: even Wikipedia times out now

[Vincent Sanders]

On Thu, Oct 01, 2015 at 10:03:56PM +0100, Jim Nagel wrote:
> It seems that Netsurf now times out even for Wikipedia.
> Try this page:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritzing
> 
> Hourglass goes on forever, though it least it does not tie up the 
> whole machine.
> 
> Go to Netsurf iconbar choices, Content, Disable Javascript,
> and try the Wikipedia page again.  Now it loads no problem.
> 
> (Netsurf #2964 on Iyonix with Ro 5.18)
> 
> Anybody else see the same behaviour?

The bugtracker is always available, please feel free to report issues
in development builds. Please do not be offended if we close them with
"we know" but in the same breath we do apreciate you taking the time.

In this case you managed to give me an easy to reproduce testcase and
I found and slaughtered the bug, fix is in #2968 

The issue was to do with asyncronous javascript script completion
handling. Basically javascript handling is mad and you found a case I
had not covered.

> 
> I notice that the Choices file (which results from changing something 
> in the Netsurf configuration) no longer stores the Javascript setting 
> -- it's on by default, and that's that.  I'm pretty sure that in the 
> past, the Choices file contained a line   enable_javascript:1  (or 0).
> If I'm right, when did this change take place?  What's the reasoning?
> 
> It would sure be handy to have a keyboard shortcut to switch 
> Javascript on and off!
> 
> -- 
> Jim Nagelwww.archivemag.co.uk
> || See you at the show?  www.riscoslondonshow.co.uk  October 24
> 
> 
> 

-- 
Regards Vincent
http://www.kyllikki.org/

even Wikipedia times out now

[Jim Nagel]

It seems that Netsurf now times out even for Wikipedia.
Try this page:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritzing

Hourglass goes on forever, though it least it does not tie up the 
whole machine.

Go to Netsurf iconbar choices, Content, Disable Javascript,
and try the Wikipedia page again.  Now it loads no problem.

(Netsurf #2964 on Iyonix with Ro 5.18)

Anybody else see the same behaviour?

I notice that the Choices file (which results from changing something 
in the Netsurf configuration) no longer stores the Javascript setting 
-- it's on by default, and that's that.  I'm pretty sure that in the 
past, the Choices file contained a line   enable_javascript:1  (or 0).
If I'm right, when did this change take place?  What's the reasoning?

It would sure be handy to have a keyboard shortcut to switch 
Javascript on and off!

-- 
Jim Nagelwww.archivemag.co.uk
|| See you at the show?  www.riscoslondonshow.co.uk  October 24

Re: even Wikipedia times out now

[ChrisDewhurst]

I was about to make the same point as Jim -- seems the JS setting 
isn't stored in the latest Netsurf so you have to remember to switch 
off manually every time you start up via Choices > Content > Disable 
JS.

Netsurf gang: is this an oversight? Can it be put back in the next 
update please?

thanks
Chris.
-- 
Chris


On 1 Oct 2015 Jim Nagel  [mailto: nets...@abbeypress.co.uk] wrote:

> It seems that Netsurf now times out even for Wikipedia.
> Try this page:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritzing

> Hourglass goes on forever, though it least it does not tie up the
> whole machine.

> Go to Netsurf iconbar choices, Content, Disable Javascript,
> and try the Wikipedia page again.  Now it loads no problem.

> (Netsurf #2964 on Iyonix with Ro 5.18)

> Anybody else see the same behaviour?

> I notice that the Choices file (which results from changing something
> in the Netsurf configuration) no longer stores the Javascript setting
> -- it's on by default, and that's that.  I'm pretty sure that in the
> past, the Choices file contained a line   enable_javascript:1  (or 0).
> If I'm right, when did this change take place?  What's the reasoning?

> It would sure be handy to have a keyboard shortcut to switch
> Javascript on and off!

Re: even Wikipedia times out now

[Peter Young]

On 1 Oct 2015  Jim Nagel  wrote:

> It seems that Netsurf now times out even for Wikipedia.
> Try this page:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritzing

> Hourglass goes on forever, though it least it does not tie up the
> whole machine.

> Go to Netsurf iconbar choices, Content, Disable Javascript,
> and try the Wikipedia page again.  Now it loads no problem.

> (Netsurf #2964 on Iyonix with Ro 5.18)

> Anybody else see the same behaviour?

Yes, with several sites as well as Wikipedia; this is on an ARM6, RISC 
OS 5.23, and with several of the latest development builds. I thought 
it was something wrong with my setup, but a lot of others seem to have 
the same problem.

A few vague pointers, perhaps:

When NetSurf says "Loading, processing" the LED on the ADSL modem only 
flashes intermittently, instead of the normal frenzied flashing at 
this stage.

My home page is www.bbc.co.uk/news and this always loads promptly when 
I start NetSurf, as does http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/gl52 which is 
often the second page I go to.

I have a strong impression that the delayed loading happens more often 
if I click on a URL from outside NetSurf, for instance from an e-mail 
or from a URL stored in NeXTBar (apologies to Jim for the camel-caps). 
When this happens, if I stop the attempt at loading, and then press 
Enter in the URL bar, the page often loads promptly.

No idea of the significance of these; perhaps someone can see if any 
of it makes sense?

> I notice that the Choices file (which results from changing something
> in the Netsurf configuration) no longer stores the Javascript setting
> -- it's on by default, and that's that.  I'm pretty sure that in the
> past, the Choices file contained a line   enable_javascript:1  (or 0).
> If I'm right, when did this change take place?  What's the reasoning?

> It would sure be handy to have a keyboard shortcut to switch
> Javascript on and off!

Me too. However, I think this has already been discussed with the 
developers (may their tribe increase!) and I think it would be 
difficult to do.

Best wishes,

Peter.

-- 
Peter Young (zfc Os) and family
Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
pnyo...@ormail.co.uk

Re: even Wikipedia times out now

[Steve Fryatt]

On 1 Oct, ChrisDewhurst wrote in message
<9761ed0b55.c...@cdewhurst2010.btinternet.com>:

> I was about to make the same point as Jim -- seems the JS setting isn't
> stored in the latest Netsurf so you have to remember to switch off
> manually every time you start up via Choices > Content > Disable JS.
> 
> Netsurf gang: is this an oversight? Can it be put back in the next update
> please?

Probably not, for now. See...

http://listmaster.pepperfish.net/pipermail/netsurf-dev-netsurf-browser.org/2015-August/003749.html

...or...

http://listmaster.pepperfish.net/pipermail/netsurf-users-netsurf-browser.org/2015-August/013219.html

...or...

http://bugs.netsurf-browser.org/mantis/view.php?id=2343

...for the background.

-- 
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England

http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/