Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Right side cylinder not working after 10. years in storage

[Darin Hatton]

Do a compression test on your cylinders to make sure piston rings aren't
seized and causing low compression

On Thu, Jun 9, 2022, 9:01 PM Drew Gormley  wrote:

> Swap the brain with another bike.
>
> I bought a used 84 650 and the brain was bad. Same problem. Swapped it out
> and had spark on both sides.
>
> If not brain, coils, not coils, plug wires, then plugs.
>
> That's all there is.
>
> Make sure your coils are well grounded.
>
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 7:54 AM Paul Bellefontaine 
> wrote:
>
>> Sounds like you have a bad coil
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2022, 8:17 AM JP4  wrote:
>>
>>> Year : 1982
>>>
>>> Make: Honda
>>>
>>> Model CB450T Hawk
>>>
>>> Mileage: less than 1000
>>>
>>> 30mm Keihin carburetors
>>>
>>> The bike was running about 10 years ago. It has been sitting in my shed
>>> all that time. I had a friend clean the carbs. I cleaned the tank and
>>> filled it with fresh fuel. I purchased a new battery. At first I had no
>>> power. Cleaned the contact at the starter and the electrical came on. The
>>> bike starts and runs now but runs rough. I checked the muffler pipes where
>>> they exit the head and the pipe on the right side is not hot. I can hold on
>>> to it.  The pipe on the left is too hot to touch.
>>>
>>> I pulled the plug on both sides, connected the plug to the plug wire and
>>> set the plugs against the cylinder head while I cranked the engine. Both
>>> plugs had spark, the plug on the left may have had a stronger spark. Since
>>> I have two bikes, I tried swapping plugs and even carburetors from the
>>> other bike. There was no change in performance. When I had the plugs out of
>>> the bike and cranking the engine, both cylinders seem to have comparable
>>> pressure based on the air coming from the spark plug holes.
>>>
>>> Since the bike was sitting in a non-temp controlled metal shed in Alaska
>>> and the contact to the starter was so corroded I had no power to begin with
>>> and that I have tried two sets of carburetors and the bike has less than
>>> 1000 original miles, I think (hope) the problem is electrical and not the
>>> cylinder or carburetor.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have a suggestion?
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Horn button for '85 NH 700s

[Darin Hatton]

For William m. (Op) keep an eye on ebay, you might find complete left
control for reasonable price.  Have found a few bits for mine there as well
as other bike parts

On Wed, Sep 1, 2021, 9:16 PM Darin Hatton  wrote:

> You have a snow plow attachment on your 700s?
>
> On Wed, Sep 1, 2021, 9:00 PM Drew Gormley  wrote:
>
>> You know I have the exact same issue?
>>
>> I think mine broke when I dropped the bike once in the snow. Never found
>> that little bastard.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 2, 2021 at 2:54 AM William M  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello ALL,
>>> somehow the little horn button has disappeared from my sweetheart.
>>> Makes it a bit difficult to honk, and a bit concerned about moisture
>>> getting in there.
>>> Does anyone have a spare I can buy?
>>> Thanks,
>>> William, in Oregon.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Horn button for '85 NH 700s

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You have a snow plow attachment on your 700s?

On Wed, Sep 1, 2021, 9:00 PM Drew Gormley  wrote:

> You know I have the exact same issue?
>
> I think mine broke when I dropped the bike once in the snow. Never found
> that little bastard.
>
> On Thu, Sep 2, 2021 at 2:54 AM William M  wrote:
>
>> Hello ALL,
>> somehow the little horn button has disappeared from my sweetheart.
>> Makes it a bit difficult to honk, and a bit concerned about moisture
>> getting in there.
>> Does anyone have a spare I can buy?
>> Thanks,
>> William, in Oregon.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] User-Group Recommendation for SOHC Honda CB400F

[Darin Hatton]

Just saw the F (four cylinder) in your post. Good bunch on the honda twins
forum, they can steer you in the right direction

On Fri, Aug 13, 2021, 4:07 PM Darin Hatton  wrote:

> Give this one a look see. Www.hondatwins.net
>
> On Fri, Aug 13, 2021, 3:16 PM David Shevlin  wrote:
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>> Fellow Nighthawkers..in addition to a 1986 700 NHS, I also own a
>> 1975 Honda CB400F (currently *laid-up* but to soon to be road-worthy).
>> Any recommendation for a user-group *specific* to the SOHC CB400F /
>> CB350F ?  I’ve seen some discussion of the bike on this user-group:
>> http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php
>>
>> Thank you.  David
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] User-Group Recommendation for SOHC Honda CB400F

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Give this one a look see. Www.hondatwins.net

On Fri, Aug 13, 2021, 3:16 PM David Shevlin  wrote:

> Fellow Nighthawkers..in addition to a 1986 700 NHS, I also own a
> 1975 Honda CB400F (currently *laid-up* but to soon to be road-worthy).
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> http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1996 Nighthawk

[Darin Hatton]

Shows up Graham Rogers, probably something I've done in my phone , but I
know you are THE Kiwi in Pa.

On Mon, Jun 14, 2021, 5:34 PM Graham Rogers 
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> I’m not?  Mmmm, me think I am.
>
> On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 5:33 PM Darin Hatton 
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>> Sorry Graham, just noticed you weren't Kiwi in reply
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2021, 3:01 PM Graham Rogers 
>> wrote:
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>>> You’ve done really well if it only takes a couple of minutes to be
>>> running right after a 2-3 hiatus.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 2:26 PM 'nick.t...@btinternet.com' via
>>> Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!  wrote:
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>>>> My original problem was #1 cylinder taking a lot longer to warm up
>>>> compared to the other three. I stripped, cleaned and synched the carbs and
>>>> the problem was cured. The bike starts well if I use it regularly, but if I
>>>> don’t start the bike for 2-3 weeks, it takes quite a while before it starts
>>>> erratically. 1-2 minutes later it runs fine. I’m wondering if it’s the fuel
>>>> taking it’s time to fill the carbs, but wouldn’t there still be fuel in the
>>>> bowls ( there are no leaks ).
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1996 Nighthawk

[Darin Hatton]

Sorry Graham, just noticed you weren't Kiwi in reply

On Mon, Jun 14, 2021, 3:01 PM Graham Rogers 
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> You’ve done really well if it only takes a couple of minutes to be running
> right after a 2-3 hiatus.
>
> On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 2:26 PM 'nick.t...@btinternet.com' via Nighthawk
> Motorcycle Lovers!  wrote:
>
>> My original problem was #1 cylinder taking a lot longer to warm up
>> compared to the other three. I stripped, cleaned and synched the carbs and
>> the problem was cured. The bike starts well if I use it regularly, but if I
>> don’t start the bike for 2-3 weeks, it takes quite a while before it starts
>> erratically. 1-2 minutes later it runs fine. I’m wondering if it’s the fuel
>> taking it’s time to fill the carbs, but wouldn’t there still be fuel in the
>> bowls ( there are no leaks ).
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1996 Nighthawk

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I would have to agree with Kiwi. My 700s takes about 10 minutes to fully
warm up. Alot longer than my liquid cooled 650 silverwing interstate.  .
 I had the same situation with #1 cylinder taking alot longer to warm up.
Piston rings rusted and seized on piston resulting in low compression.
Check compression in cylinders

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> You’ve done really well if it only takes a couple of minutes to be running
> right after a 2-3 hiatus.
>
> On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 2:26 PM 'nick.t...@btinternet.com' via Nighthawk
> Motorcycle Lovers!  wrote:
>
>> My original problem was #1 cylinder taking a lot longer to warm up
>> compared to the other three. I stripped, cleaned and synched the carbs and
>> the problem was cured. The bike starts well if I use it regularly, but if I
>> don’t start the bike for 2-3 weeks, it takes quite a while before it starts
>> erratically. 1-2 minutes later it runs fine. I’m wondering if it’s the fuel
>> taking it’s time to fill the carbs, but wouldn’t there still be fuel in the
>> bowls ( there are no leaks ).
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fork Tube

[Darin Hatton]

They are on web. Replaced   fork seals over the winter and saw mine had
been replaced. I looked them up. They offer a wide variety of fork tubes

On Tue, Jun 1, 2021, 2:17 PM Dave duChêne  wrote:

> Thanks, I'll try to contact them. Hopefully they are on the web.
> Dave
>
> On Tue, 1 Jun 2021 at 13:34, Darin Hatton  wrote:
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>> I have a pair from Frank's forks L.L.C. they are in Evanston Illinois.
>> Nice oem replacement
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 1, 2021, 12:12 PM Dave duChêne  wrote:
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>>>
>>> 1983 Nighthawk 650.
>>> Anybody know where I can get a fork tube?
>>> Mine are pitted and keep cutting seals.
>>> Dave
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fork Tube

[Darin Hatton]

I have a pair from Frank's forks L.L.C. they are in Evanston Illinois.
Nice oem replacement

On Tue, Jun 1, 2021, 12:12 PM Dave duChêne  wrote:

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> 1983 Nighthawk 650.
> Anybody know where I can get a fork tube?
> Mine are pitted and keep cutting seals.
> Dave
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1985 Nighthawk 650 Shaft Drive Dies After Riding For 15 minutes

[Darin Hatton]

Possible blocked vent in fuel cap?

On Mon, Apr 12, 2021, 11:34 AM Kyle Munz  wrote:

> Inline fuel filters can cause this too. They don't flow enough to keep up
> with freeway riding but will idle just fine.
>
> -Kyle
>
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> On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 9:06 AM Dave duChêne  wrote:
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>> No, there's a black box under the seat about 3" square
>>
>> On Mon, 12 Apr 2021 at 08:04, Leland Hardy <
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>>> Ignition module meaning ignition coils?
>>>
>>> Leland
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>>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 5:43 AM Dave duChêne 
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 I had the same issue. Replacing the ignition module fixed it for me.
 Dave

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> Every time I put the 1985 Honda Nighthawk 650 with shaft drive on the
> highway, after about 10 minutes in OD the bike dies as if it's run out of
> gas.  I pull over to the shoulder, wait 2-3 minute  and it starts and runs
> perfectly for another 10 - 15 minutes before dying again.  Has anyone
> experienced this?
>
> Any ideas?  The symptom is 100% identical to running out of your main
> gas tank and having to flip your petcock to reserve. This is deadly
> dangerous.  I had to stop on a highway with no shoulder and with big rigs
> runnin’ hard right next to me.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Carbs.........

[Darin Hatton]

 Sounds like you need to take carbs back out and take them off rack and
replace o-rings on cross over pipes, at the very least. If I was goin in
that far I'd replace every o-ring and bowls gaskets at minimum

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> Would love to take it all apart for and with you, done probably about 100
> of them. But you’re too far away. An inline 4 is so much simpler than a v4,
> a Magna in particular.
>
> On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 3:27 PM Robert Spraker 
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>> Looks like it is leaking between 1 & 2.  Cant see exactly where since it
>> is leaking so badly and splashing gas everywhere.   Only leaks with petcock
>> in on position.  When off it stops.   Runs great for a long while when gas
>> is shut off.   Is it possible its getting too much gas flowing into it.  I
>> tried to rebuild the carbs on my last project an (1982 Suzuki GS850) with
>> no luck.  Had to turn to a professional.   Hoping *don't have to try
>> again.*
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 9:13 PM Robert Spraker 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I didn’t have time to look too deeply into it at the time.  Gas was
>>> pouring out and I just shut her down.   I will pull it back out this
>>> weekend and do some checking.
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob S
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Apr 6, 2021, at 9:07 PM, Darin Hatton  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Not good... leaking between #3 and 4 cylinder?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 10:03 PM Robert Spraker 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Stored it on the Side stand.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rob S
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 6, 2021, at 8:44 PM, Darin Hatton 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks Kiwi. Just wondering if bike was stored on center stand or side
>>>> stand. Fought a bunch of fuel leaks on my 700. O rings and bowl gaskets
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 9:02 PM Robert Spraker 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am in Central Illinois.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Rob S
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 6, 2021, at 7:09 PM, Graham Rogers 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Where are you?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 8:03 PM Robert Spraker 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I will give that a try
>>>>>>
>>>>>> fingers crossed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *-Rob-**  \_0_/*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 6:57 PM Graham Rogers <
>>>>>> grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Before you take them off and taking them apart, try tapping the
>>>>>>> bowls with a hammer and screw driver. Then drain them, let them refill 
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> repeat.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 5:51 PM Robert Spraker 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Started my baby “83 650SC” up today for the first time this year
>>>>>>>> and was greeted with the dreaded carb leak.  Time to rebuild it.   Does
>>>>>>>> anyone have any good recommendations on a how to and where to get good
>>>>>>>> parts?
>>>>>>>>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Carbs.........

[Darin Hatton]

Not good... leaking between #3 and 4 cylinder?

On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 10:03 PM Robert Spraker  wrote:

> Stored it on the Side stand.
>
>
> Rob S
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> On Apr 6, 2021, at 8:44 PM, Darin Hatton  wrote:
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> 
> Thanks Kiwi. Just wondering if bike was stored on center stand or side
> stand. Fought a bunch of fuel leaks on my 700. O rings and bowl gaskets
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 9:02 PM Robert Spraker  wrote:
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>> I am in Central Illinois.
>>
>>
>> Rob S
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Apr 6, 2021, at 7:09 PM, Graham Rogers 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Where are you?
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 8:03 PM Robert Spraker 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I will give that a try
>>>
>>> fingers crossed.
>>>
>>> *-Rob-**  \_0_/*
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 6:57 PM Graham Rogers 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Before you take them off and taking them apart, try tapping the bowls
>>>> with a hammer and screw driver. Then drain them, let them refill and 
>>>> repeat.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 5:51 PM Robert Spraker 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Started my baby “83 650SC” up today for the first time this year and
>>>>> was greeted with the dreaded carb leak.  Time to rebuild it.   Does anyone
>>>>> have any good recommendations on a how to and where to get good parts?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Rob S
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Carbs.........

[Darin Hatton]

Thanks Kiwi. Just wondering if bike was stored on center stand or side
stand. Fought a bunch of fuel leaks on my 700. O rings and bowl gaskets

On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, 9:02 PM Robert Spraker  wrote:

> I am in Central Illinois.
>
>
> Rob S
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Apr 6, 2021, at 7:09 PM, Graham Rogers 
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> 
> Where are you?
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 8:03 PM Robert Spraker 
> wrote:
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>> I will give that a try
>>
>> fingers crossed.
>>
>> *-Rob-**  \_0_/*
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 6:57 PM Graham Rogers 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Before you take them off and taking them apart, try tapping the bowls
>>> with a hammer and screw driver. Then drain them, let them refill and repeat.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 5:51 PM Robert Spraker 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Started my baby “83 650SC” up today for the first time this year and
 was greeted with the dreaded carb leak.  Time to rebuild it.   Does anyone
 have any good recommendations on a how to and where to get good parts?


 Rob S

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Carbs.........

[Darin Hatton]

Can you tell us where the gas is leaking from? Bowl, overflow tube, cross
over pipe o-rings.?

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> Where are you?
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 8:03 PM Robert Spraker 
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>> I will give that a try
>>
>> fingers crossed.
>>
>> *-Rob-**  \_0_/*
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 6:57 PM Graham Rogers 
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>>> Before you take them off and taking them apart, try tapping the bowls
>>> with a hammer and screw driver. Then drain them, let them refill and repeat.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 5:51 PM Robert Spraker 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Started my baby “83 650SC” up today for the first time this year and
 was greeted with the dreaded carb leak.  Time to rebuild it.   Does anyone
 have any good recommendations on a how to and where to get good parts?


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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Carb up for grabs

[Darin Hatton]



On Sat, Apr 3, 2021, 8:20 PM Graham Rogers 
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> Yeah, along side about 3 other banks of Nighthawk carbs. Where are you?
>
> On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 8:05 PM Darin Hatton 
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>> Got room on the shelf KIWI?
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 3, 2021, 8:02 PM darinhatton5  wrote:
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>>> Not in need but what a great offer. Hope someone in need is helped out
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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>>>
>>>  Original message 
>>> From: Joel Greaves 
>>> Date: 4/3/21 7:24 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>> To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! 
>>> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Carb up for grabs
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I sold my 650 some years ago, (bad move I know) but I still have a full
>>> rack of carbs I purchased while diagnosing an issue. Turned out I didn't
>>> need them but just shelved them. I'm offering them up to whomever needs
>>> them instead of sending them to scrap. Offer up... Currently in NC, will
>>> ship but that can be pricey.
>>> Rubber side down ya'll.
>>> Joel
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Carb up for grabs

[Darin Hatton]

Got room on the shelf KIWI?

On Sat, Apr 3, 2021, 8:02 PM darinhatton5  wrote:

> Not in need but what a great offer. Hope someone in need is helped out
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> Hi all,
> I sold my 650 some years ago, (bad move I know) but I still have a full
> rack of carbs I purchased while diagnosing an issue. Turned out I didn't
> need them but just shelved them. I'm offering them up to whomever needs
> them instead of sending them to scrap. Offer up... Currently in NC, will
> ship but that can be pricey.
> Rubber side down ya'll.
> Joel
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Taller windshield

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Looks good kiwi

On Tue, Dec 8, 2020, 5:05 PM Graham Rogers 
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> Just installed this windshield on my 86 Nighthawk. Not a perfect fit but
> with a heat gun, patience and work it ‘fits’. The folks at Gustafson
> Plastics were really helpful. I couldn’t get the first one they sent to fit
> at all so they sent me a second one made from a different mold. This one is
> a much closer fit. Graham
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Just bought 1984 nighthawk 650 that's making noise and not running correctly

[Darin Hatton]

Checked fuses? Under cover in center if handle bars

On Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 2:05 PM 'AGL' via Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <
nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com> wrote:

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> Yes I did put new oil and filter in it. but I haven't even looked at the
> air filter yet so when I first started it up I never even connected the air
> box carb boots only just to see if it would run. Another thing I forgot to
> mention was the oil was foamy and brown after I ran it but it looks normal
> after letting the bike sit for a day, maybe just condensation? I would let
> it run but I cant even get it started since I have no power to ignition now
> and I have no idea where to start looking for that.
> On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 9:19:37 AM UTC-7 kiwinPA wrote:
>
>> First of all, where are you located?
>> Did you put in new oil and filter and make sure air filter is clean or
>> replaced?
>> Pinging could be cam chain tensioner or carbs out of synch or something
>> else.
>> If you can give it a compression test. If all 4 cylinders are about the
>> same and above 75 psi ok.  I would expect them to be low after sitting 20
>> years and if so compression will gradually come with bike running.
>> I would get it started and run it at about 2500 rpms for 15-20 mins
>> unless noise gets worse or something else crops up. Smoke should go away in
>> that time but it may take longer. Graham
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 9:21 AM 'Goblin Horn' via Nighthawk Motorcycle
>> Lovers!  wrote:
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>>> So I just bought my first motorcycle and I have a small amount
>>> mechanical knowledge but the bike has been sitting for 20 years. So the
>>> first thing I did was take each spark plug out (all of them were oil fouled
>>> looking) and put some oil down each cylinder. So the next day I replaced
>>> all the spark plugs and cranked up the engine with new gas but nothing
>>> happened as I figured so I then pulled the carbs and cleaned them. Now
>>> after getting everything together It finally fired up making a little noise
>>> for the first 3-5 seconds or so then started sounding normal with a lot of
>>> smoke for about 30-60 seconds it ran okay. But it started to make a little
>>> like ping noises it wasn't very loud though and it was still smoking pretty
>>> heavily so I shut it off since it was midnight. This morning I started it
>>> up again and it sounded good for the first 20 seconds but the noise came
>>> back. So I pulled the choke lowering the RPMs and it went away for a couple
>>> seconds and I repeated until the choke was completely off and the noise
>>> still came back so I shut it off. Now I don't even get power to the dash
>>> which is a different issue but to me it feels like the engine is screwed
>>> and the owner lied about why he parked it plus it only has 14k miles.
>>> Anybody have any idea what I should do next?
>>>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Digest for nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com - 1 update in 1 topic

[Darin Hatton]

Check compression in cylinders and compare #1 with the others

On Thu, Aug 27, 2020, 12:03 PM paul mangan  wrote:

> I  am having problems with no.1 carburettor  nothing 83 nh so took it off
> and cleaned it..running very rich and cooler than the other 3any
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] engine spluttering!

[Darin Hatton]

Any history come with the bike? After checking what Kiwi posted I would
check header pipes upon cold start with bare hands to make sure all
cylinders are firing, pipes warming equally to touch. Also check fuel flow
from petcock

On Sun, Aug 9, 2020, 2:21 PM Graham Rogers 
wrote:

> Hi Andy, how many miles or ks on the bike? Try it without the air cleaner
> just as a test, oiled air cleaners, with too much oil, sometimes restrict
> airflow. Have you given it a compression check? Graham
>
> On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 9:47 AM Andrew Benger 
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>> Hi, this is my first post, have (sohc) nighthawk 1983 about 2 months uk
>> bike, engine wont rev past about 5000 rpm. only at stand still!
>> Have cleaned carbs and balanced all good so far. a mecanic friend
>> yesterday told me to just replace (cdi units!?)   can any one
>> help regards andy
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 700s Nighthawk: How far should the rear brake pedal be from the engine.

[Darin Hatton]

Here is where mine sits

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020, 2:24 PM Graham Rogers 
wrote:

> I’ve never had trouble bending either brake pedal or gear shifter just
> using big pliers of sorts. Never had to heat them up. They bend pretty
> easy. You can take the brake pedal off the bike and put it in a vice and go
> to it or do it on the bike. If it doesn’t look bent just pry it out a
> little using a length of 1X2 wood. My lift has under it about a dozen
> pieces of wood of different lengths and sizes for all sorts of uses on a
> bike, particularly handy in removing carbs. Graham
>
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 2:01 PM gary glick  wrote:
>
>> Just got the bike. The pedal seems to need my foot to be uncomfortably
>> close to the engine to operate the pedal. Pedal does not look bent. If it
>> turns out that the pedal is fine and it is me who would like it further
>> away from the engine can I safely bend it? I am told that if I do this with
>> heating will it change the color of the pedal? Would it need re-chroming?
>> Thanks.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Life here on Nighthawk Lovers

[Darin Hatton]

I agree with graham on the rotella t. I use it in my 700s and my gl 650
silverwing.  Found out about it on cx/gl 500 650 forum a few years ago.
Good stuff for our wet clutches. And good reply kiwi. Dont let let the
"diesel fuel oil" designation on the jug warn you off

On Mon, Jun 29, 2020, 4:07 PM Graham Rogers 
wrote:

> Sounds like a couple of good options
>
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 4:05 PM Michael Bernardi 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey all
>> I have had 5 of the 700 s and 3 of the 650 models
>> I’ve always had great results with the Lucas Semi Synth 10w40 oils
>> Smooth shifts and less oil burn off than conventional oils
>> I’ll ride in the summer up to 500 miles a day, so the oils I use really
>> matter
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 3:00 PM mike  wrote:
>>
>>> Jaso-ma or jaso-ma2 oil synthetic or not
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2020, 3:59 PM Ric Holder  wrote:
>>>
 I have a 1984 750 nighthawk (canadian model). I was told to always use
 a oil with a Zink base. Stay away from synthetic.

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 Graham

 I live in Osprey, Fl. Warm. Some sites show the first choice for oil is
 Shell rotella full synthetic t6 5w-40.  I am going to use that in my 85
 700s, bike due in  July 2, 2020. Do you agree? Thanks. Gary

 On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 2:01 PM Graham Rogers <
 grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Changing the exhaust system In any way changes the exhaust note. I
> have owned all the different Nighthawk models and I go back to the 700S
> because of the black chrome and the sound. The Nighthawk 700S and the 
> First
> generation Yamaha VMAX have the best sound, Graham
>
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 1:06 PM William M  wrote:
>
>> Hello Kyle,
>> thank you for your reply.
>> and for setting me straight on those few things, I am tending to
>> agree;
>> and, I would like to keep her as stock as possible anyway.
>> I hadn't even thought about changing the exhaust changing the
>> beautiful tone,
>> I just think the chrome pipes look better, but not worth losing that
>> music to
>> my ears!
>> I'll check out that site for the windscreen.
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 6:58 AM Kyle Munz  wrote:
>>
>>> Hey William and welcome to the group!
>>> I'm glad you're enjoying your 700S, they do spoil you to just about
>>> anything else. Regarding your questions:
>>> * I don't know if the 650 exhaust will fit, I had both at one point
>>> and a lot of parts do swap like coils and brake switches but never tried
>>> the exhaust. My gut feeling though is that they wouldn't fit, there's
>>> enough difference between the bikes that I don't think the rear bolts 
>>> would
>>> line up, I could be wrong though. After owning both though I can tell 
>>> you
>>> the 700S has a much nicer exhaust note which you mentioned liking about
>>> your current bike. I wouldn't take a chance on messing that up.
>>> * No idea if the rear drum brake can be swapped out, I've never
>>> found it to be insufficient though, the dual front disks do most of the
>>> work.
>>> * Taller windscreen, I've seen some in photos so I did a quick
>>> google search and found this company that claims to make them. I don't 
>>> have
>>> any experience with them to know if they're any good or not though:
>>> https://bikescreen.com/products/honda-nighthawk
>>>
>>> -Kyle
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 12:04 PM William M 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hello Paul and All,
 wonderful forum, thank you.
 I am the proud new owner of a '85 700S, 39K mi., and in excellent
 shape, thanks to the previous owner.
 Since March 1st I have put just over 1K mi. on her, wonderful!
 She even has a name now, Celine; we are in love already.
 She's my 5th bike (I am now old), 4th Honda (1 Suzuki was enough!),
 and biggest bike yet; at first I thought she was too much for me at
 my age, and I still think
 that (maybe I should have imported a Honda Wave 125 from Thailand,
 also a winner), but we are getting
 along better, and I am trying to remain slow and cautious, but she
 makes that hard, since she's
 not really made for Grampa driving.
 I would have bought her just so I could hear her engine purr, love
 that sound!
 My only previous post, a couple mo. ago, was about a plastic
 rattling sound at low speed, quite annoying to me;
 I figured it was coming somewhere from the fairing area, so I
 stuffed a black sock in-between 

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Nighthawk 650: year of manufacture query

[Darin Hatton]

I would have to agree

On Thu, Jun 25, 2020, 5:45 PM Graham Rogers 
wrote:

> It’s certainly a CB650SC but has round headlamp instead of OEM square one
>
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 5:36 PM Pat Hehir  wrote:
>
>> Hi,, please see all pictures,
>>
>> Rgds Pat
>>
>> On Thu, 25 Jun 2020, 22:31 Pat Hehir,  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 25 Jun 2020, 22:28 Pat Hehir,  wrote:
>>>


 On Thu, 25 Jun 2020, 10:41 ddt,  wrote:

> Hi,
> The RC 13 frame has got a straight upper tube ( below the gastank) ,
> the PC11 has got 2 parallel upper tubes.
> Even the surrounding of the engine no. on your  picture doesn't even
> look like RC 13 Nighthawk.
> Maybe you just send a picture of the whole engine and we'll see what
> it looks like.
>
>
> Am Mittwoch, 24. Juni 2020 14:29:18 UTC+2 schrieb Pat Hehir:
>>
>> Yes it is a 4 cylinder engine
>>
>> On Wed, 24 Jun 2020, 13:08 Graham Rogers, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The VT500 is a twin cylinder whereas the CB650SC is a 4 cylinder
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 5:49 AM Pat Hehir 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 *Update* : I have found out that the frame is from a 1987 VT 500
 EF, the bike looks identical to a 1983, 650 Nighthawk.

 Is it possible that the both bike frames are the same, and how can
 i verify that the engine is a 650cc.

 Rgds
 Pat




 On Friday, 12 June 2020 13:17:54 UTC+1, Pat Hehir wrote:
>
> Hi Paul I just bought a Nighthawk 650, for restoration,
>
> it needs some work, mainly a respray as the colour has been
> changed from red
>
> to a very badly sprayed black. I think it is a 1983 model as the
> original
>
> colour was red, (wineberry candy red) I think from the info I have
> got on
>
> the net. I bought the bike without any documentation and it does
> not have a
>
> license plate, the indication label on the left side of the bike
> has been
>
> removed. The No stamped on the right side is PC112103611 and the
> Engine No
>
> 1s *101245* . I am in Ireland and I want to register this bike so
> that I
>
> can legally get it on the road, Is it possible to get the original
> details
>
> for this bike. I have checked with the relevant departments in
> Ireland, but
>
> there is no history of it been registered in this country, from
> the details
>
> that I provided. I would appreciate any help you could give with
> this
>
> query. Thanking you Pat Hehir
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 650cc and 700cc engines

[Darin Hatton]

Yes Gary, similar design, different engine

On Wed, Jun 3, 2020, 6:38 PM gary glick  wrote:

> For what it's worth.  Having read various articles about the 84-86 700.
> Completely redesigned.  I am quoting the articles and not sharing a
> personal evaluation.
>
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 3:55 PM 'Steve Hart' via Nighthawk Motorcycle
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>> Hi All,
>>
>> I bought a 1984 650cc bike in pieces as a project. It was a bike I owned
>> some years or so ago. I originally bought it when it was first imported
>> into the UK in 1996 and it has some sentimental value. The previous owner
>> has completely stripped the original engine down and put it in a number of
>> boxes in no particular order.
>>
>>  The bike came with a second complete engine which I have just started
>> work on and realized form the stamp on the barrels that this engine is a
>> 700cc version.
>>
>> Does anyone know if any of the parts are interchangeable as I suspect
>> that the original engine may not be complete?
>>
>> I have done some searching on the internet and it appears that although
>> the engines are visually similar there are some differences.
>>
>> Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] RC42 carbs.

[Darin Hatton]

Same bike, different stickers

On Tue, May 26, 2020, 9:15 PM Darin Hatton  wrote:

> So to answer Nick's question,  he has a cb 750 nighthawk with cb
> 750badging? Sold to European nations
>
> On Tue, May 26, 2020, 9:11 PM Darin Hatton  wrote:
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>> I do commend your effort good sir
>>
>> On Tue, May 26, 2020, 9:09 PM Graham Rogers 
>> wrote:
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>>> I don’t think I fooled anyone
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 9:01 PM Darin Hatton 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Quite the yarn kiwi. Gotta dig it
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 26, 2020, 3:43 PM Darin Hatton 
>>>> wrote:
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>>>>> Welcome
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>>>>>> Looks like mine is the CB750 F2T.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] RC42 carbs.

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So to answer Nick's question,  he has a cb 750 nighthawk with cb
750badging? Sold to European nations

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> I do commend your effort good sir
>
> On Tue, May 26, 2020, 9:09 PM Graham Rogers 
> wrote:
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>> I don’t think I fooled anyone
>>
>> On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 9:01 PM Darin Hatton 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Quite the yarn kiwi. Gotta dig it
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 26, 2020, 3:43 PM Darin Hatton 
>>> wrote:
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>>>> Welcome
>>>>
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>>>>> Looks like mine is the CB750 F2T.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] RC42 carbs.

[Darin Hatton]

I do commend your effort good sir

On Tue, May 26, 2020, 9:09 PM Graham Rogers 
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>
> On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 9:01 PM Darin Hatton 
> wrote:
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>> Quite the yarn kiwi. Gotta dig it
>>
>> On Tue, May 26, 2020, 3:43 PM Darin Hatton 
>> wrote:
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>>> Welcome
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 26, 2020, 3:16 PM 'nick.tamps...@btinternet.com' via
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>>>> Thanks Darin,
>>>> Looks like mine is the CB750 F2T.
>>>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] RC42 carbs.

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Quite the yarn kiwi. Gotta dig it

On Tue, May 26, 2020, 3:43 PM Darin Hatton  wrote:

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] RC42 carbs.

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Welcome

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> Thanks Darin,
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Stem Bolt Size for a 1991 Nighthawk 750

[Darin Hatton]

If you dont have a metric tape measure or dial caliper, see what it
measures in inches and divide that by  25.4. This will give you metric
equivalent

On Wed, May 20, 2020, 3:37 PM Brian  wrote:

> Hi Guys,
>
> I need to loosen my stem bolt so I can try and get my steering back inline
> after a lay down.  Does anyone know what the size, MM, is of the stem
> bolt.  I need to buy a socket to fit it and I want to get the correct size.
>
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> Thanks for the help,
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[Nighthawk Lovers] 84 650 carbs dump fuel

[Darin Hatton]

Not if it's coming from carbs. I would suspect valve needle seat

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Cold Header pipe

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Nick
  Acetone is a solvent and atf is automatic transmission fluid,  mixed
50/50. If at all possible do compression test on that cylinder to see if
that may be your situation.  The acetone and atf will free up stuck rings .
You'll need an oil change afterward as some will enter crankcase

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>
> I haven’t ridden the bike, but it was running when I bought it. The engine
> wasn’t running very well and the carbs had a leak, hence the carb strip.
> It’s now running much better and idles pretty good, but number one header
> takes quite a while to get hot.
> What’s Acetone and atf mixture. I’m from the UK, we probably have another
> name for it.
>
> On 25 Feb 2020, at 20:04, Darin Hatton  wrote:
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> Is this bike one you've ridden? Is this a new problem since carb cleaning
> or dont know because you haven't ridden?
>  I'm asking because I had the same problem when I first got my 700s.  Mine
> sat for years with gas in it and it worked it's way into cylinder. Did
> compression test and that cylinder was low. Poured acetone and atf mixture
> into cylinder and let soak. Compression went from 120 to 160 and has ran
> fine since
>   If you pull your plug out after running , check it to see if it has gas
> on it
>
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 2:49 PM Kyle Munz  wrote:
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>> How long did you let it run for? It can take a while for them to all warm
>> up. Did you sync the carbs after cleaning them?
>>
>>
>> -Kyle
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 1:42 PM 'nick.tamps...@btinternet.com' via
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>>> 1996 750 NH.
>>> I’ve just put the carbs back on after completely stripping and cleaning
>>> them, new O rings ( there was a leak ). Cleaned with carb cleaner and blown
>>> out with compressed air.
>>> Started the bike and after a couple of minutes it was idling nicely, but
>>> the number 1 header was cold. Thinking it could be the plug, I pulled the
>>> plug cap and the engine stalled. Put the cap back on and it was fine.
>>> I was quite meticulous with the carb cleaning, so I’m hoping that the
>>> jets and passageways are completely clean.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Cold Header pipe

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Is this bike one you've ridden? Is this a new problem since carb cleaning
or dont know because you haven't ridden?
 I'm asking because I had the same problem when I first got my 700s.  Mine
sat for years with gas in it and it worked it's way into cylinder. Did
compression test and that cylinder was low. Poured acetone and atf mixture
into cylinder and let soak. Compression went from 120 to 160 and has ran
fine since
  If you pull your plug out after running , check it to see if it has gas
on it

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> How long did you let it run for? It can take a while for them to all warm
> up. Did you sync the carbs after cleaning them?
>
>
> -Kyle
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 1:42 PM 'nick.tamps...@btinternet.com' via
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>> 1996 750 NH.
>> I’ve just put the carbs back on after completely stripping and cleaning
>> them, new O rings ( there was a leak ). Cleaned with carb cleaner and blown
>> out with compressed air.
>> Started the bike and after a couple of minutes it was idling nicely, but
>> the number 1 header was cold. Thinking it could be the plug, I pulled the
>> plug cap and the engine stalled. Put the cap back on and it was fine.
>> I was quite meticulous with the carb cleaning, so I’m hoping that the
>> jets and passageways are completely clean.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Power issue - 1983 NH CB650SC

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My 700 takes a bit too warm up to get idle to stay at 1100 rpm. Rode today
and yesterday,  low 60's in s.w. ohio. First 2 rides after carb synch.
Seems to warm up quicker than before, but still takes about 10 minutes of
riding. Have you synchronized your carbs?

On Mon, Feb 3, 2020, 1:30 PM Graham Rogers 
wrote:

> Yeah, I just took an 84 650 Nighthawk out for a spin. It took 10 mins to
> warm up (including 5 min riding) in 60 degree weather. Just got back and
> been after 10 miles the idle wasn't exactly where it should be but I know
> everything is good on this bik
>
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020, 12:47 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:
>
>> Thanks for putting my mind at ease - will continue with a gentle touch
>> for the first 10 min.
>> Thanks and be safe!
>> Jenya
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 12:38 PM Graham Rogers 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Sounds within range of normal in winter weather. How about with choke
>>> still on a little? Does that make a difference. Even after warm up, I have
>>> to keep the choke on , on my 700S, for 2-3 miles and it’s still not running
>>> normal till about 5 miles
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 12:33 PM Jenya Spektor 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Graham, good to hear from you!
 After 5 min of warm up, when in 1st, it doesn't even go to 4K rpms, the
 bike dies if I go too fast and hard on the throttle.
 But after 5-10min of slow and gentle riding, i can go twist the
 throttle fast and hard and I have an almost immediate response.
 LMK


 On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 11:15 AM Graham Rogers <
 grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What are the rpms in those two gears? That would tell us more what is
> normal and what is not. You have very little power in any gear under 3k
> rpms, probably not till you get around 4-4.5 rpms.
>
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 9:36 AM Jenya Spektor 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello friends,
>> My bike is finally all done! Carbs cleaned. Nothing leaks. All gages
>> work.Starts from the first try, idles at 1100, sounds and smells good.
>>
>> One issue (or maybe not, depending on YOUR input) - after a good 5
>> minute warm up, there is very little power in 1st and 2nd gear for the
>> first 5 minutes of me RIDING it. After 5-7 min thought, it almost feels
>> that the bike wakes up and start reacting to the throttle.
>>
>> Anything I am missing here, is this common for an older bike like
>> this? Can my custom additions have played any role in this?
>> I did put on a 4-in-1 mac exhaust and the pod air filters, re-jetted
>> the carbs to work with both (muffler/pods).
>> Let me know,
>> Jenya
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 83 Nighthawk 550 Many Problems

[Darin Hatton]

If it was stuck in gear you should be able to rock back tire a couple
inches back and forth. If not it is seized behind coupling at back of engine

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020, 5:27 PM Robert James  wrote:

> I'd like to roll it into my workshop before taking off the back tire, if
> at all possible. I got help to put it back on lift stand so will re-mount
> shocks asap and double-check clutch. I don't believe clutch is needed just
> to get into neutral but maybe someone can confirm.
>
> On Tuesday, January 7, 2020 at 3:17:50 PM UTC-7, Robert James wrote:
>>
>>  It is shaft driven... I do plan to inspect all of that in due time.
>> However, my most pressing concern is to get the bike rolling again, as it
>> is in an inconvenient spot. I have confirmed the brake is not seized, and
>> it was immobile prior to dropping/removing shocks. I'm almost positive it
>> is stuck in gear... Will double check clutch engagement but I'm pretty sure
>> we tried that, that was what led me down the seized brake road. Perhaps
>> stuck in gear and clutch not engaging?
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 83 Nighthawk 550 Many Problems

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I this bike shaft driven? If so you may want to check connection inside
boot . After dropping ass end with  no shocks you could have done something
to the joint inside.
  Pull rear wheel and inspect everything like Graham suggested previously,
not difficult.  Reassemble per shop manual

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020, 3:31 PM Robert James  wrote:

> Pressing the clutch does not allow the rear tire to spin... It was indeed
> operational the last time I started this thing. :(
>
> On Monday, January 6, 2020 at 10:38:16 PM UTC-7, Steve Lepard wrote:
>>
>> Is the clutch operational? Disengage the clutch if yes. This should allow
>> the rear wheel to rotate, even with the bike in gear.
>> If the wheel still refuses to turn there is something bound up in the
>> transmission or drive shaft of the bike.
>> There is no easy way to disconnect the shaft drive like a chain drive so
>> let's hope disengaging the clutch works.
>> Steve
>>
>> On Monday, January 6, 2020, Robert James  wrote:
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>>> Ok, that is what I thought and what makes the most sense. Don't think
>>> bearings would seize after a month or so in a covered area. So I have a
>>> bike that is immobile due to being stuck in gear. . .  Now that we have it
>>> diagnosed, any help to get it into neutral would be a great help, as I'd
>>> like to be able to move it around. This was running and driving a couple
>>> months ago so I don't see how it could be anything major.
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 3, 2020 at 7:08:36 PM UTC-7, Steve Lepard wrote:

 Disconnecting the pedal rod and the arm that prevents the shoe plate
 assembly will allow the wheel and tire assembly to rotate unless the shoe
 plate is striking some other part of the bike (swing arm, shock...).
 The bike is either in gear or the rear axle bearings are seized.
 Nothing else left to prevent the wheel from turning.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Removing petcock screen

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Sorry Kiwi, couldn't resist

On Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 4:50 PM Graham Rogers 
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> Thanks Darin
>
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 4:46 PM Darin Hatton 
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>> Hes referring to brass tube that is in the petcock in the pic.
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 4:36 PM Lar  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, December 28, 2019 at 6:57:13 PM UTC-5, kiwinPA wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Just the plastic tube. You already remove the metal ‘inner’ tube
>>>>
>>>> News to me about some metal part to remove, I have not seen that.
>>> Petcock assembly unscrews and all I see is a bit of plastic tube sticking
>>> out the hole by a very little bit.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Removing petcock screen

[Darin Hatton]

Did I mention BE CAREFUL , my local ,friendly honda shop found a tube
screen filter for my 85 700s for a mere 80 bucks? I asked him if it came
with petcock

On Fri, Dec 27, 2019, 7:20 PM Darin Hatton  wrote:

> Agree with all the above. Seems the ones I've dealt with were so old and
> hard that needle nose pliers around the flange while prying out was the
> only way. Be persistent.  One pulled out whole is a good indicator of
> what's been going on inside tank
>
> On Fri, Dec 27, 2019, 7:12 PM Graham Rogers 
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>> A common issue. I use pb blaster liquid wrench, needle nose pliers and
>> whatever. Sometimes I end up butchering the filter, sometimes it's
>> salvageable (just a little shorter after I have cut off the butchered up
>> end). There are plenty of aftermarket replacements on line
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 7:07 PM Lar  wrote:
>>
>>> 83 nighthawk 650  I need to take everything off the fuel tank to get it
>>> rust treated inside. I unscrewed the petcock assembly but the plastic tube
>>> going into the tank with a screen will not move. Any thoughts on how it
>>> comes out.  I don't want to break anything and be stuck for parts I'll
>>> never find.  Thanks
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Removing petcock screen

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Agree with all the above. Seems the ones I've dealt with were so old and
hard that needle nose pliers around the flange while prying out was the
only way. Be persistent.  One pulled out whole is a good indicator of
what's been going on inside tank

On Fri, Dec 27, 2019, 7:12 PM Graham Rogers 
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> A common issue. I use pb blaster liquid wrench, needle nose pliers and
> whatever. Sometimes I end up butchering the filter, sometimes it's
> salvageable (just a little shorter after I have cut off the butchered up
> end). There are plenty of aftermarket replacements on line
>
> On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 7:07 PM Lar  wrote:
>
>> 83 nighthawk 650  I need to take everything off the fuel tank to get it
>> rust treated inside. I unscrewed the petcock assembly but the plastic tube
>> going into the tank with a screen will not move. Any thoughts on how it
>> comes out.  I don't want to break anything and be stuck for parts I'll
>> never find.  Thanks
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 83 Nighthawk 550 Many Problems

[Darin Hatton]

Download a copy of the factory service manual,  it's free. All specs
included. Very easy to remove rear wheel and inspect brake shoes. Same for
front. I believe I downloaded mine from manualslib.com for my 85 700s
On Mon, Dec 23, 2019, 12:29 PM Graham Rogers 
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> If, when you were trying to move the rear wheel, you were able to ‘rock’
> it a little then it was probably still in gear. If not it’s probably the
> brakes, more likely the front
>
> On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 12:23 PM Robert James  wrote:
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>> Oh, sorry for the confusion. The rear would not move prior to me removing
>> the rear shocks. I was pulling stuff off of it to make it lighter, as I
>> cannot get it back on it's lift stand since it doesn't roll and I don't
>> have help. I suppose it could be the front wheel that has stuck, but I
>> wasn't messing with it and it has not been in the weather. I was, however,
>> messing with the rear brake last time. Is there a way to confirm it is in
>> neutral other than spinning a wheel? My neutral indicator light does not
>> work.
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 3:48:44 PM UTC-7, Robert James wrote:
>>>
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/UD9UzsFTCaDsBGnaA
>>>
>>> Picked this up on the kinda cheap and was glad to find this group, as
>>> I'm hoping to do a full resto-mod to it in time.
>>>
>>> My first question that I was hoping might get answered here, is about
>>> the starter relay. Mine is out (apparently, as when using the button power
>>> drops out but starter doesn't crank), and the prior owner was simply arcing
>>> the battery to one side of the relay (as can be seen in the photo). I found
>>> this:
>>> https://www.partzilla.com/product/honda/35850-MB0-007 but was wondering
>>> if it will for sure work due to the difference in appearance, or if I
>>> should check something else first, as that is rather expensive. Also, if I
>>> just google "83 nighthawk starter relay" I get an item that is much
>>> cheaper, but looks even more different.
>>> https://www.dbelectrical.com/products/starter-solenoid-relay-for-honda-motorcycle-nighthawk-shadow-many.html?=1145=3348053656_id=SMU6096=1o2=196254016515=c==g=EAIaIQobChMI5fj4nPuc5gIVStbACh1cnwTdEAQYAiABEgJlP_D_BwE=aw.ds
>>> Will something like that work just as well? This is just the first in a
>>> long list of electrical issues, but I'd like to start out on the right
>>> foot.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance, I have enjoyed reading through these posts! And
>>> thanks for the manuals!!
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Charging/Electrical Issue

[Darin Hatton]

Here is a pic of the 2 I'm using. The one in photo is in an 83 honda gl650
silverwing , easier to get pic of. Same one is in 700s. 3 seasons so far
from the one in pic, 1 year for the one in 700

On Sat, Dec 7, 2019, 7:49 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

> Thanks guys - I did start a bike and when reviving the voltmeter shows 14
> v or more. So I presume the charging system is working - it’s the battery
> that loses voltage during longer stop and go rides in the city. I’ll try to
> stop by the AAP to check it out. Is there anything specific I should be
> asking them for? And how do they test the batteries in the store? Thanks
> all!
>
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> On Dec 1, 2019, at 5:38 PM, Darin Hatton  wrote:
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> 
> Hi Jenya,
>   The easiest way for me to see what the charging system is doing is to
> set multi meter to D C volts, put lead on battery with bike running. Should
> show 12 + volts at idle and about 14.5 volts at about 5k rpms.
> Darin
>
> On Sun, Dec 1, 2019, 1:13 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:
>
>> I have followed the steps in the manual - my regulator reads 1 when I
>> touch the yellow wires on the regulator side. I presume it needs to be 0,
>> correct?
>> The stator side test shows 0.4.
>> Let me know what i should test next - unless this is a telltale of some
>> trouble.
>> Jenya
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 7:00 PM Dave duChêne  wrote:
>>
>>> Check the battery too, an internal issue can cause rapid discharge.
>>> Cheaper to replace also.
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 29 Nov 2019 at 19:56, Darin Hatton 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi jenya, dont forget to check stator. Easily done with meter.  D
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2019, 1:25 PM Kyle Munz  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There are steps in the shop manual for testing the R/R, it should be
>>>>> tested before just being replaced. If it does test bad I think we all
>>>>> pretty much agree that Rick's has the best replacement parts.
>>>>> https://ricksmotorsportelectrics.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> -Kyle
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 11:55 AM Jenya Spektor 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey fellow owners!
>>>>>> I have a question (just to validate my assumption). Recently I went
>>>>>> on a few rides that lasted for an hour or so (and I had to stop and turn
>>>>>> the bike on and off for quite a few times). Well the battery that was 
>>>>>> fully
>>>>>> charged when leaving the house would drop down to 11V and the bike would
>>>>>> not start.
>>>>>> The bike starts right up no problem.
>>>>>> By the way it's acting, it might be the regulator/rectifier not
>>>>>> charging the battery.
>>>>>> I would like to ask if you guys have any recommendations on a
>>>>>> replacement part that is a more modern (maybe two in one)?
>>>>>> Thank you in advance.
>>>>>> Jenya
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Charging/Electrical Issue

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Hi Jenya
 Good to hear your charging system is working.  That is a good test to do
to see what is going into battery. If its putting too much charge into
battery it can be cooked.
   As far as auto store testing batteries,  they will put a load on it and
see how voltage drops. I have used AGM batteries in my bikes and have had
good results. They are a gel battery instead of liquid acid type. No vent
hose, no spills, sealed and much more cold cranking amps. Got mine at
batteries + bulbs . About 100 bucks each here in ohio

On Sat, Dec 7, 2019, 7:49 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

> Thanks guys - I did start a bike and when reviving the voltmeter shows 14
> v or more. So I presume the charging system is working - it’s the battery
> that loses voltage during longer stop and go rides in the city. I’ll try to
> stop by the AAP to check it out. Is there anything specific I should be
> asking them for? And how do they test the batteries in the store? Thanks
> all!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 1, 2019, at 5:38 PM, Darin Hatton  wrote:
>
> 
> Hi Jenya,
>   The easiest way for me to see what the charging system is doing is to
> set multi meter to D C volts, put lead on battery with bike running. Should
> show 12 + volts at idle and about 14.5 volts at about 5k rpms.
> Darin
>
> On Sun, Dec 1, 2019, 1:13 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:
>
>> I have followed the steps in the manual - my regulator reads 1 when I
>> touch the yellow wires on the regulator side. I presume it needs to be 0,
>> correct?
>> The stator side test shows 0.4.
>> Let me know what i should test next - unless this is a telltale of some
>> trouble.
>> Jenya
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 7:00 PM Dave duChêne  wrote:
>>
>>> Check the battery too, an internal issue can cause rapid discharge.
>>> Cheaper to replace also.
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 29 Nov 2019 at 19:56, Darin Hatton 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi jenya, dont forget to check stator. Easily done with meter.  D
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2019, 1:25 PM Kyle Munz  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There are steps in the shop manual for testing the R/R, it should be
>>>>> tested before just being replaced. If it does test bad I think we all
>>>>> pretty much agree that Rick's has the best replacement parts.
>>>>> https://ricksmotorsportelectrics.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> -Kyle
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 11:55 AM Jenya Spektor 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey fellow owners!
>>>>>> I have a question (just to validate my assumption). Recently I went
>>>>>> on a few rides that lasted for an hour or so (and I had to stop and turn
>>>>>> the bike on and off for quite a few times). Well the battery that was 
>>>>>> fully
>>>>>> charged when leaving the house would drop down to 11V and the bike would
>>>>>> not start.
>>>>>> The bike starts right up no problem.
>>>>>> By the way it's acting, it might be the regulator/rectifier not
>>>>>> charging the battery.
>>>>>> I would like to ask if you guys have any recommendations on a
>>>>>> replacement part that is a more modern (maybe two in one)?
>>>>>> Thank you in advance.
>>>>>> Jenya
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Charging/Electrical Issue

[Darin Hatton]

Hi Jenya,
  The easiest way for me to see what the charging system is doing is to set
multi meter to D C volts, put lead on battery with bike running. Should
show 12 + volts at idle and about 14.5 volts at about 5k rpms.
Darin

On Sun, Dec 1, 2019, 1:13 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

> I have followed the steps in the manual - my regulator reads 1 when I
> touch the yellow wires on the regulator side. I presume it needs to be 0,
> correct?
> The stator side test shows 0.4.
> Let me know what i should test next - unless this is a telltale of some
> trouble.
> Jenya
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 7:00 PM Dave duChêne  wrote:
>
>> Check the battery too, an internal issue can cause rapid discharge.
>> Cheaper to replace also.
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 29 Nov 2019 at 19:56, Darin Hatton 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi jenya, dont forget to check stator. Easily done with meter.  D
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2019, 1:25 PM Kyle Munz  wrote:
>>>
>>>> There are steps in the shop manual for testing the R/R, it should be
>>>> tested before just being replaced. If it does test bad I think we all
>>>> pretty much agree that Rick's has the best replacement parts.
>>>> https://ricksmotorsportelectrics.com/
>>>>
>>>> -Kyle
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 11:55 AM Jenya Spektor 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey fellow owners!
>>>>> I have a question (just to validate my assumption). Recently I went on
>>>>> a few rides that lasted for an hour or so (and I had to stop and turn the
>>>>> bike on and off for quite a few times). Well the battery that was fully
>>>>> charged when leaving the house would drop down to 11V and the bike would
>>>>> not start.
>>>>> The bike starts right up no problem.
>>>>> By the way it's acting, it might be the regulator/rectifier not
>>>>> charging the battery.
>>>>> I would like to ask if you guys have any recommendations on a
>>>>> replacement part that is a more modern (maybe two in one)?
>>>>> Thank you in advance.
>>>>> Jenya
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Charging/Electrical Issue

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Hi jenya, dont forget to check stator. Easily done with meter.  D

On Fri, Nov 29, 2019, 1:25 PM Kyle Munz  wrote:

> There are steps in the shop manual for testing the R/R, it should be
> tested before just being replaced. If it does test bad I think we all
> pretty much agree that Rick's has the best replacement parts.
> https://ricksmotorsportelectrics.com/
>
> -Kyle
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 11:55 AM Jenya Spektor 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey fellow owners!
>> I have a question (just to validate my assumption). Recently I went on a
>> few rides that lasted for an hour or so (and I had to stop and turn the
>> bike on and off for quite a few times). Well the battery that was fully
>> charged when leaving the house would drop down to 11V and the bike would
>> not start.
>> The bike starts right up no problem.
>> By the way it's acting, it might be the regulator/rectifier not charging
>> the battery.
>> I would like to ask if you guys have any recommendations on a replacement
>> part that is a more modern (maybe two in one)?
>> Thank you in advance.
>> Jenya
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1983 NH restorod progress

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If no pics it didn't happen 

On Tue, Oct 22, 2019, 3:41 PM Donny Ravioli  wrote:

> So the next step for me was to rebuild the slave cylinder. I took it out
> this weekend... WOW!!! That thing was disgusting! I say "was" because she's
> been completely disassembled and thoroughly cleaned. I bought the rebuild
> kit but it was missing one seal that I had to replace, the oil seal that
> goes around the long shaft which is pushed by the piston. Anyways, it was a
> total bear to clean her up but everything looks pretty darn good. Once I
> get that last piece I'll put it back together.
>
> Next stop; Rebuild the clutch master cylinder. Wish me luck!
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Turn signalcancel unit

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Sorry Tommy, may as well look for that next...

On Fri, Oct 11, 2019, 9:27 PM Tommy Hill  wrote:

> But does your reverse work?
>
> 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Turn signalcancel unit

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Doesn't turn off when you push in on it?
On Sat, Oct 12, 2019, 1:46 AM Holger Selover-Stephan 
wrote:

> On my 700S the lever doesn't stay on the side the indicator is active on.
> To cancel, I have to nudge it into the opposite direction. So, to blink
> right I shove the lever to the right, and the right indicator starts
> blinking. But when I then release the lever it immediately snaps back to
> the middle. It's a little annoying since I have to remember which direction
> to move the lever to cancel. Anyone know how to fix that?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Holger
>
> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019, 08:03 geo-hawk allan 
> wrote:
>
>> howdy darin, it's like tommy said on the 700S, ...same button/lever you
>> flip left or right to turn on the signalPUSH IN on it to shut off signal
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 4:51:16 PM UTC-4, Darin Hatton wrote:
>>>
>>> After much looking in the factory service manual for my 700s I still
>>> cannot find any info on the turn signal cancel unit , let alone find it on
>>> my bike. Turn signals don't turn off by themself. Anyone have a pic of
>>> where it is located on 85 700s nighthawk? I'm afraid previous owner may
>>> have removed ? Thanks in advance
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signalcancel unit

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Strange indeed Tommy-San.  Thank you for the input as this is my first
nighthawk but far from the first honda. Just one of the small things on my
to do list for the nighthawk I finally got to and now I cant fix because
apparently the problem doesn't exist

On Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 6:58 PM Tommy Hill  wrote:

> That is strange. I’ve owned 6-8 NHs. All were 84-86 except one ‘93. None
> self cancelled.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signalcancel unit

[Darin Hatton]

Thanks glen. Guess I'll quit looking for it. Just find it odd that it's in
the wiring diagram but not on anyone's nighthawk?

On Thu, Oct 10, 2019, 11:08 AM EGrider  wrote:

> I can tell you that on a PC800, which does self-cancel, it is located in
> the "neck" of the frame above the front wheel so that it can turn with the
> handlebars to sense the direction of the bike. It works in conjunction with
> a speed sensor behind the speedometer pod so that it doesn't turn off at
> red lights when the bike is stopped.
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signalcancel unit

[Darin Hatton]

After much looking in the factory service manual for my 700s I still cannot 
find any info on the turn signal cancel unit , let alone find it on my bike. 
Turn signals don't turn off by themself. Anyone have a pic of where it is 
located on 85 700s nighthawk? I'm afraid previous owner may have removed ? 
Thanks in advance

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[Nighthawk Lovers] '83 blinkers not working... again...

[Darin Hatton]

When I first got my 700s the turn signals were intermittent.  After warming up 
and on the road they would work about half the time I used them. After 
replacing turn signal relay all was well. Sounds like you are experiencing the 
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: New Member

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Old glass fuses were shot?

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: New Member

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Dual filament bulbs in front,  single in rear? On new turn signals

On Fri, Oct 4, 2019, 12:10 PM Donny Ravioli  wrote:

> Doug - Thanks! You've given me hope that it might not be the signal relay.
> I'll have to hunt down the issue starting at the relay. They all worked
> before I took the bike apart. But since that time I've taken the body and
> many mechanical components off the bike AND sprayed it down repeatedly with
> degreaser and a hose (without the body on her).
>
> You can email me at medo...@yahoo.com
>
> Thank you!
> Don (a.k.a. Donny Ravioli)
>
> On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 9:39:21 AM UTC-4, Doug Jones wrote:
>>
>> Danny
>>
>>   I replaced my signal rubber arms and the exact thing happened.
>> Running lights on when I activate either right or left the lights go off
>> and don't blink. It turned out there was no power going to the turning
>> signal relay. I have a 1983 CB659Sc Nighthawk which is the same bike you
>> have I think.
>> Measure the top and bottom of the fuse that supplies the 12 volts. I
>> found 12 at each but it wasn't leaving the fuse box and going to the signal
>> relay. I have to ask why did that happen?? I  didn't touch the fuse box. It
>> turns out that I unplugged the fuse box removed it opened it up and found
>> no continuity from the bottom of the fuse going to where the plug goes in.
>> The little finger that rests on the fuse on the bottom connector had a hair
>> line crack where it connected the fuse to the flat steel wire that goes
>> down to the bottom of the fuse box where the plug connected.
>>
>> I hope this helps, I have a great color schematic for that bike I can
>> email you but I am at work and can't find it now. Give me your email and I
>> will send  it to you
>>
>> Doug
>>
>> On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 3:54:50 PM UTC-4, Donny Ravioli wrote:
>>>
>>> I just posted my progress on an '83 CB650SC I'm restoring but I don't
>>> see it posted.
>>>
>>> Here's the short of it: I'm restoring an '83 CB650SC. If this post shows
>>> up then I'll explain my progress. Pics are located here:
>>>
>>> https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPeX4ga7jU0evbyfLh5kZHJwOR-FCKNCQb0bpZoOjqev-oarb01mV4zeWIuEX1C0w?key=NjhSRmZTMmVSNVVWNWt1bHRqWVhOTEJRZ3JMRVlR
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 84, 85 Nighthawks.

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They look great kiwi, what size are they?

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1983 NH CB 650 - need to change tires

[Darin Hatton]

And follow reassembly steps in manual. As mentioned above, things need to
be done in order

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> About 3500 miles into the battlax tires  I put on this year with no
> complaints.  What does concern me that I havent seen discussed here is the
> date code on motorcycle tires. From what I've read tires should be replaced
> 5 years after date code . I'm posting a pic of the date code on my tire so
> you all will know what to look for. The first 2 numbers are the week of
> year made, the last numbers are the year. In my pic the tire was made in
> the 38th week of 2018. Hope this helps
>
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>> Uh, I think I misunderstood you. The *wheels* are easy to take off the
>> bike. Takes just a few minutes. Follow the manual when mounting them again,
>> there are a few gotchas.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] After a 40 min of driving the battery is almost dead.

[Darin Hatton]

Glad to help. Although I misspoke. If you are going to check the 3 yellow
output wires from alternator the coupler needs to be plugged in. The white
and black wires in that plug excite the field coil, without those plugged
in it wont charge

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> That better explains it, thanks Darin
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2019, 10:37 AM Darin Hatton 
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>> If you check what Graham posted and have no increase in DC voltage here
>> is an easy check on your stator out of the factory service manual for my
>> 700. You can also run the bike with the 3 yellow wires from stator
>> unplugged and check for voltage. Meter must be set to ac, as it is an ac
>> generator.  All 3 wires should have approximately the same output
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 22, 2019, 10:07 AM Graham Rogers 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> With a volt meter Jenya. Check voltage of battery while bike is not
>>> running. Should be over 12 volts. Then start the bike and check voltage
>>> again while slowly increasing the rpms. It should read over 13.5 volts over
>>> 3000 rpms.
>>> If the volts remain the same (12 volt range or decrease) then the
>>> problem is your charging system, (wiring, alternator and/or regulator).
>>> Others can tell you how to test them, Graham
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 9:50 AM Jenya Spektor 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello friends,
>>>> I have noticed recently that my battery is loosing juice after a long
>>>> drives. Where do I start with troubleshooting the cause?
>>>> I have a 1983 CB650 NH. The light is always on. Nothing else should be
>>>> draining the battery? Unless... Can you help to troubleshoot.
>>>> (The battery is 6month old and has been trickle charged when not
>>>> riding).
>>>> Sincerely, Jenya
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Airbox removal

[Darin Hatton]

Sorry nick, no help here.  Mine is an 85 700s

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> 1996 750. I’ve got the carbs off the bike and thought it would be a good
> idea to clean the airbox. How are the air tubes that run from the airbox to
> the carbs attached to the airbox. Do they just pull out or is there a
> grommet type fitting.
> I’m concerned about spitting the rubber on removal.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1983 Honda Nighthawk 550

[Darin Hatton]

Sweet bike, as Graham said, wish I lived closer. 400 bucks is quite a
bargain

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> Wish I lived closer. I love the 550 Nighthawk
>
> On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 1:25 PM William Hutnik 
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>> You got it. No worries.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 22, 2019, at 1:17 PM, Graham Rogers 
>> wrote:
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>> I should have looked at all the pics, thanks Bill
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Jul 22, 2019, at 1:11 PM, William Hutnik 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 21,318.5
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 22, 2019, at 1:09 PM, Graham Rogers 
>> wrote:
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>> How many miles on it Bill?
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 12:46 PM William Hutnik 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> My father has recently stopped riding and has handed the keys of his
>>> 2000 Vulcan 800 to me so I am looking to sell my 1983 Honda Nighthawk 550.
>>>  Pictures are attached. The clutch slipped about 8 months ago and it has
>>> been sitting in my garage since then.  It has been a great bike (a classic)
>>> and is in good condition (besides the clutch).  I live in Hopewell, NJ (zip
>>> code 08525), a town between Princeton and Trenton in Central NJ.
>>> Everything pictured is included (sissy bar) and I have an extra battery for
>>> it and some other minor spare parts.  I think a fair price is around $400,
>>> but am flexible.  If you are interested, you can give me (Bill) a call on
>>> my cell phone 609-468-4182.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Running on three cylinders.

[Darin Hatton]

That's it. I saw bike bandit offers OEM jets for your bike. I would look at
the slow jets too. They are in the middle of pic I sent. Main jet was still
screwed into emulsion tube in that pic also. They need to come apart to
clean and you're welcome

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> It looks like mine is the A version VE66B = 112 main jet.
> Thank you Darin.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Running on three cylinders.

[Darin Hatton]

Nice score Tommy.  I'm with these guys on the jets Nick. You could have
very easily disturbed some small debris while removing and cleaning
petcock. If you don't know how small the openings in the jets are, sounds
like you'll soon find out. One speck of something smaller than a speck of
sand and its done

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> I just scored a free almost new Honda pressure washer for this very reason
> owner had used it 3 times and could not get it to start. I removed the jet.
> It was completely clogged. Used a piece of copper wire, cleaned it out, and
> runs like new. All because of ethanol gas!!  Well...and time
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 700S headlight not working.

[Darin Hatton]

Thinking about redoing mine. The mega phones have been repainted but make
the rest of bike look bad to me. Thanks D

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wrote:

> Yep, painted it with high heat high gloss, then buffed it with plastic
> windshield scratch remover stuff. Worked well
>
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 5:58 PM Darin Hatton 
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>> Hey Kiwi, what did you end up doing on the exhaust? As I recall you were
>> looking to repaint it? Thanks D
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2019, 10:46 PM Graham Rogers 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, I found a tiny crack, hardly perceptible around the glass.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 10:18 PM Kyle Munz  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I had that once where the fuse tested good when I put the leads on both
>>>> ends but the bike still wasn't running. Turned out the fuse was physically
>>>> falling apart.
>>>> The element hadn't blown but the end caps were falling off. When I
>>>> placed the leads on both ends it was holding it together and it tested
>>>> good, but that's not
>>>> how the fuse block holds it.
>>>>
>>>> -Kyle
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 9:12 PM Graham Rogers <
>>>> grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Summer project.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 10:11 PM Darin Hatton 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Busy, busy. Good luck with it
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2019, 10:09 PM Graham Rogers <
>>>>>> grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Next project is an 83 650 Nighthawk, been sitting out in the weather
>>>>>>> for about 8 years.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 9:29 PM Darin Hatton 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Glad to hear kiwi. I know how frustrating some electrical problems
>>>>>>>> can be.  Bike looks great 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2019, 8:53 PM Graham Rogers <
>>>>>>>> grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I heard that!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 8:42 PM Tommy Hill 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sorry...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ha ha ha
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 700S headlight not working.

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Hey Kiwi, what did you end up doing on the exhaust? As I recall you were
looking to repaint it? Thanks D

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wrote:

> Yes, I found a tiny crack, hardly perceptible around the glass.
>
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 10:18 PM Kyle Munz  wrote:
>
>> I had that once where the fuse tested good when I put the leads on both
>> ends but the bike still wasn't running. Turned out the fuse was physically
>> falling apart.
>> The element hadn't blown but the end caps were falling off. When I placed
>> the leads on both ends it was holding it together and it tested good, but
>> that's not
>> how the fuse block holds it.
>>
>> -Kyle
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 9:12 PM Graham Rogers 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Summer project.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 10:11 PM Darin Hatton 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Busy, busy. Good luck with it
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2019, 10:09 PM Graham Rogers <
>>>> grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Next project is an 83 650 Nighthawk, been sitting out in the weather
>>>>> for about 8 years.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 9:29 PM Darin Hatton 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Glad to hear kiwi. I know how frustrating some electrical problems
>>>>>> can be.  Bike looks great 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2019, 8:53 PM Graham Rogers <
>>>>>> grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I heard that!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 8:42 PM Tommy Hill 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ha ha ha
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1983 Nighthawk

[Darin Hatton]

Quite all right Tommy, been looking for OEM winker stay for left side since
I pick bike up in October

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019, 5:34 AM Tommy Hill  wrote:

> Oh. I see what you mean. I didn’t notice the “buy” thing was grayed out.
> Sorry
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1983 Nighthawk

[Darin Hatton]

Thanks Graham 

On Mon, Jul 1, 2019, 7:44 PM Graham Rogers 
wrote:

> I’ve put them on bikes years ago and have them on two Nighthawks now. I
> really like them
>
> On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 7:34 PM Darin Hatton 
> wrote:
>
>> Sounds like the repro parts I saw. How do you think they are and how they
>> will hold up? I wouldn't mind repop so bad if some one can actually put
>> their hands in them and give some kind of opinion? C'mon kiwi. What do you
>> think?
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 1, 2019, 7:30 PM Graham Rogers 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I found my order on eBay but have no idea how to show it. They were $69/
>>> pair and came from Taiwan
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 7:27 PM Darin Hatton 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Kiwi. Hers what I got.  Forgot to attach pic
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 1, 2019, 7:25 PM Graham Rogers 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, winter stat. I’ll check if I have some packaging that will tell
>>>>> me where I got them
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 7:24 PM Darin Hatton 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> As in " winker stay " ? Please elaborate Kiwi. I'd love to check out
>>>>>> some other options . I just want 2 in front that work, match and appear
>>>>>> OEM. I have front left taped up with a stainless steel splint to get me 
>>>>>> by
>>>>>> till I can find something original appearing and functional. ThanksD
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 1, 2019, 7:16 PM Graham Rogers <
>>>>>> grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I actually prefer one particular aftermarket front turn signal
>>>>>>> holder.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 7:01 PM Darin Hatton 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes Tommy-San, would love to have Japan printed on the new ones. I
>>>>>>>> have been keeping up on what you post as it seems you are one of the 
>>>>>>>> few
>>>>>>>> die-hards contributing. Gonna keep searching till I find what I need
>>>>>>>> (want). I did find 2 700s in the 84 model for sale on craigslist in the
>>>>>>>> Akron Ohio area for those interested. 3k for 2. Both ran and looked 
>>>>>>>> good in
>>>>>>>> pics
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1983 Nighthawk

[Darin Hatton]

Sounds like the repro parts I saw. How do you think they are and how they
will hold up? I wouldn't mind repop so bad if some one can actually put
their hands in them and give some kind of opinion? C'mon kiwi. What do you
think?


On Mon, Jul 1, 2019, 7:30 PM Graham Rogers 
wrote:

> I found my order on eBay but have no idea how to show it. They were $69/
> pair and came from Taiwan
>
> On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 7:27 PM Darin Hatton 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Kiwi. Hers what I got.  Forgot to attach pic
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 1, 2019, 7:25 PM Graham Rogers 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, winter stat. I’ll check if I have some packaging that will tell me
>>> where I got them
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 7:24 PM Darin Hatton 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> As in " winker stay " ? Please elaborate Kiwi. I'd love to check out
>>>> some other options . I just want 2 in front that work, match and appear
>>>> OEM. I have front left taped up with a stainless steel splint to get me by
>>>> till I can find something original appearing and functional. ThanksD
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 1, 2019, 7:16 PM Graham Rogers 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I actually prefer one particular aftermarket front turn signal holder.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 7:01 PM Darin Hatton 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes Tommy-San, would love to have Japan printed on the new ones. I
>>>>>> have been keeping up on what you post as it seems you are one of the few
>>>>>> die-hards contributing. Gonna keep searching till I find what I need
>>>>>> (want). I did find 2 700s in the 84 model for sale on craigslist in the
>>>>>> Akron Ohio area for those interested. 3k for 2. Both ran and looked good 
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> pics
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1983 Nighthawk

[Darin Hatton]

Looks terrible, I know. Was hanging when I picked the bike up

On Mon, Jul 1, 2019, 7:23 PM Darin Hatton  wrote:

> As in " winker stay " ? Please elaborate Kiwi. I'd love to check out some
> other options . I just want 2 in front that work, match and appear OEM. I
> have front left taped up with a stainless steel splint to get me by till I
> can find something original appearing and functional. ThanksD
>
> On Mon, Jul 1, 2019, 7:16 PM Graham Rogers 
> wrote:
>
>> I actually prefer one particular aftermarket front turn signal holder.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 7:01 PM Darin Hatton 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes Tommy-San, would love to have Japan printed on the new ones. I have
>>> been keeping up on what you post as it seems you are one of the few
>>> die-hards contributing. Gonna keep searching till I find what I need
>>> (want). I did find 2 700s in the 84 model for sale on craigslist in the
>>> Akron Ohio area for those interested. 3k for 2. Both ran and looked good in
>>> pics
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1983 Nighthawk

[Darin Hatton]

As in " winker stay " ? Please elaborate Kiwi. I'd love to check out some
other options . I just want 2 in front that work, match and appear OEM. I
have front left taped up with a stainless steel splint to get me by till I
can find something original appearing and functional. ThanksD

On Mon, Jul 1, 2019, 7:16 PM Graham Rogers 
wrote:

> I actually prefer one particular aftermarket front turn signal holder.
>
> On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 7:01 PM Darin Hatton 
> wrote:
>
>> Yes Tommy-San, would love to have Japan printed on the new ones. I have
>> been keeping up on what you post as it seems you are one of the few
>> die-hards contributing. Gonna keep searching till I find what I need
>> (want). I did find 2 700s in the 84 model for sale on craigslist in the
>> Akron Ohio area for those interested. 3k for 2. Both ran and looked good in
>> pics
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1983 Nighthawk

[Darin Hatton]

Yes Tommy-San, would love to have Japan printed on the new ones. I have been 
keeping up on what you post as it seems you are one of the few die-hards 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1983 Nighthawk

[Darin Hatton]

When I looked left side was unavailable, right side still available.

On Mon, Jul 1, 2019, 7:00 AM Tommy Hill  wrote:

> Just looked. Cmsnl.com has them.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1983 Nighthawk

[Darin Hatton]

I'd like to find one of those myself. Don't see any around here or on
craigslist anywhere. Would look good next to the 700. Speaking of which,
you wouldn't happen to have a left front turn signal for the 700 would ya?
I'm still in need and am Leary to buy one on line as the cracks that form
on the clamp rubber are about impossible to see in pics.  Thanks Kiwi.
Hopefully the better half has been putting some miles on her V-max

On Fri, Jun 28, 2019, 5:03 PM Graham Rogers 
wrote:

> Nope, can’t keep it. I already have a blue 85 650 Nighthawk and an 86
> 700S.
> Ps. I have 5 garage doors
>
> Sent from my iPad
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> On Jun 28, 2019, at 3:30 PM, Darin Hatton  wrote:
>
> Sounds like a keeper. Hope you got room in that little gray shed you keep
> all these finds in.  By the way, how many garage doors do you have on that
> garage? I don't think I have seen either end in any of your pics.
>  I think I'm liking the 83 650 nighthawk more and more because so much of
> that bike carried over into the 700s
>   Once again great job.
> D
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2019, 3:15 PM Graham Rogers 
> wrote:
>
>> It rode pretty bad so this morning I drained the front forks - water and
>> a little fluid. Refilled with ATF and set the air at 10 psi, such a
>> difference. I really like this one.
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 3:05 PM Darin Hatton 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Very nice kiwi, very nice indeed.  I'm starting to dig those 650s more
>>> and more
>>>
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>>>> Looks great!
>>>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1983 Nighthawk

[Darin Hatton]

Sounds like a keeper. Hope you got room in that little gray shed you keep
all these finds in.  By the way, how many garage doors do you have on that
garage? I don't think I have seen either end in any of your pics.
 I think I'm liking the 83 650 nighthawk more and more because so much of
that bike carried over into the 700s
  Once again great job.
D


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> difference. I really like this one.
>
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 3:05 PM Darin Hatton 
> wrote:
>
>> Very nice kiwi, very nice indeed.  I'm starting to dig those 650s more
>> and more
>>
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>>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1983 Nighthawk

[Darin Hatton]

Very nice kiwi, very nice indeed.  I'm starting to dig those 650s more and
more

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 91' Nighthawk 750 Neutral Indicator Not Working Properly

[Darin Hatton]

Won't start with clutch lever pulled in?

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019, 5:17 PM Brian Collett  wrote:

> It goes into neutral just fine, it just won’t start.
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> Brian
>
> Cell: 573-680-6911
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> On Jun 18, 2019, at 6:48 AM, Graham Rogers 
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> Is it just the light or you’re actually having a hard time finding
> neutral?  Forget the light, are you having trouble getting into neutral?
>
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 1:50 AM Brian  wrote:
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>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> My neutral light started giving me issues the other day.  The bike
>> started up and went just fine. Going into neutral with light on with no
>> issues.  Then I went for an hour ride came backed, worked on the bike for a
>> few minutes and then tried to take off again and I had a VERY hard time
>> getting the neutral light to stay on.  The bike felt like it was in neutral
>> but the light would not stay on.  I had to play with the shifter for 2 or 3
>> minutes before the light would stay on.  I replaced the little rectifier
>> under the seat and that did not fix it.
>>
>> Does anyone have any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks for the help in advance!!
>>
>>
>> Brian
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1985 650 Nighthawk drain plug gasket

[Darin Hatton]

No gasket or washer, tighten to recommended torque value in factory service
manual 

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> No gasket and don’t over tighten 
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> Hi,  changing the oil on my Nighthawk and noticed there is no washer on
> the drain plug.  It wasn't leaking before and I have owned the bike for a
> long time so I think it is something I just now noticed.  Any comments?
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> Gasket or no gasket?
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 91' Nighthawk 750 Neutral Indicator Not Working Properly

[Darin Hatton]

I have same issue on occasion with my silver wing. Neutral light not on
when bike is indeed in neutral.  One quick rev and it lights up. I'm
thinking neutral light switch. Don't have wiring diagram for your bike or i
might be able to help out more. Little more info may help all of us help
you.
D

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> Is it just the light or you’re actually having a hard time finding
> neutral?  Forget the light, are you having trouble getting into neutral?
>
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 1:50 AM Brian  wrote:
>
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> My neutral light started giving me issues the other day.  The bike
>> started up and went just fine. Going into neutral with light on with no
>> issues.  Then I went for an hour ride came backed, worked on the bike for a
>> few minutes and then tried to take off again and I had a VERY hard time
>> getting the neutral light to stay on.  The bike felt like it was in neutral
>> but the light would not stay on.  I had to play with the shifter for 2 or 3
>> minutes before the light would stay on.  I replaced the little rectifier
>> under the seat and that did not fix it.
>>
>> Does anyone have any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks for the help in advance!!
>>
>>
>> Brian
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 700S headlight not working.

[Darin Hatton]

Busy, busy. Good luck with it

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> Next project is an 83 650 Nighthawk, been sitting out in the weather for
> about 8 years.
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>> Glad to hear kiwi. I know how frustrating some electrical problems  can
>> be.  Bike looks great 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 700S headlight not working.

[Darin Hatton]

Glad to hear kiwi. I know how frustrating some electrical problems  can
be.  Bike looks great 

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 700S headlight not working.

[Darin Hatton]

Hi Graham.  Got home from work and did some digging. I too have 9 volts at
headlight when key is turned on and bike not running. You could try to
ground by probing the backside of headlight plug and ground to frame. I
would think that should make it come on? If it is a ground issue

On Wed, Jun 12, 2019, 10:40 AM Holger Selover-Stephan <
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> I’d measure the voltage at each switch (on/off at the right handle,
> high/low at the left), on either side of switch to see at which station
> it’s interrupted. Could it be a ground issue?
>
> > On Jun 11, 2019, at 7:44 PM, Graham Rogers 
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> > Tonight I put a volt meter on the headlight plug. White wire was about 9
> volts with nothing at the blue, which is meant to be at 12 when going high
> beam. Tried switching both hand controls, left and right. I even tried
> another whole gauge cluster. No different. Where does the head light get
> it’s power?
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 700S headlight not working.

[Darin Hatton]

Yo kiwi,  you check ground at headlight plug for continuity to ground? And
do you have any voltage at plug for headlight? Voltage coming from high/low
switch? And as someone already suggested,  starter button can kill
headlight . Glad to hear tail light issue was a fuse, wouldn't want to mess
with that scary black box on back inner fender either. Be glad to help if I
can. D

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> Thanks Tommy. I will recheck everything but I already checked the RH
> control, switched it with one of the other 4 in my parts box
>
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>> My 750 headlight wasn’t working. Traced it back to a loose wire in right
>> control thing. Just needs a touch of solder to fix.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Gas in engine oil - leaking carbs (again).

[Darin Hatton]

Or an in infrared heat gun works good too. One doesn't heat up as fast as
the others is a good indicator of carb or cylinder you need to address

On Fri, Jun 7, 2019, 6:41 PM Darin Hatton  wrote:

> I would suggest after reinstalling carbs to start bike, feel exhaust pipes
> as they warm up to make sure they are all heating up somewhat evenly.
>
> On Fri, Jun 7, 2019, 10:38 AM Jenya Spektor  wrote:
>
>> At the end of the day non of it makes sense if the carbs do not perform
>> at least as they should (I am not even hoping for anything great)  - just
>> hoping that all four work and the idling is more or less consistent. Thank
>> you truly - you guys are the reason I persevere.
>> J
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 6:04 PM Darin Hatton 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Glad to hear. Downloaded the wiring diagram on my old phone and couldn't
>>> zoom in on it. Checked it out on my new phone and could read it. Again,
>>> glad to hear you're on your way
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2019, 5:58 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes it was really helpful - and now that I know what those wires are
>>>> splicing the new speedo into the old connectors is going to be much easier.
>>>> Will keep you posted on the progress.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 6, 2019, at 3:04 PM, Darin Hatton 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Good luck Jenya, do any good with the wiring diagram Kyle sent?
>>>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2019, 1:36 PM Graham Rogers 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just blow compressed air through them
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 1:22 PM Jenya Spektor 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I will do both - will check the overflow tubes and plastic joints as
>>>>>> well as inspect and polish the needle seats.
>>>>>> In fact I do not have the tubes - only the plastic t-joints in
>>>>>> between the cards - I have not taken them out to see if there is 
>>>>>> blockage.
>>>>>> Best, J
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 12:02 PM Darin Hatton 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Had same issue. Replaced float needles, same issue. Polished the
>>>>>>> needle seats with mothers aluminum polish on q-tip in my drill. No more
>>>>>>> issue
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2019, 10:33 AM Jenya Spektor 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After a series of episodes of the leaking carbs, I decided to see
>>>>>>>> if it had leaked into the engine - and viola - it did.
>>>>>>>> So I am taking the carbs out yet again and will double check the
>>>>>>>> float levels and the float needles. Some of them (at least 3) have very
>>>>>>>> little spring action left in them.
>>>>>>>> Should I order a set of new ones and replace all four - since my
>>>>>>>> plastic floats are not adjustable, will changing the float valves help 
>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>> with the correctly setting the height?
>>>>>>>> (The carbs were cleaned well the last time I serviced them about a
>>>>>>>> month ago).
>>>>>>>> Could there be anything else that causes these overflow leaks?
>>>>>>>> I will obviously be changing the oil as well.
>>>>>>>> Any help or insight is appreciated.
>>>>>>>> Jenya
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Gas in engine oil - leaking carbs (again).

[Darin Hatton]

I would suggest after reinstalling carbs to start bike, feel exhaust pipes
as they warm up to make sure they are all heating up somewhat evenly.

On Fri, Jun 7, 2019, 10:38 AM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

> At the end of the day non of it makes sense if the carbs do not perform at
> least as they should (I am not even hoping for anything great)  - just
> hoping that all four work and the idling is more or less consistent. Thank
> you truly - you guys are the reason I persevere.
> J
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 6:04 PM Darin Hatton 
> wrote:
>
>> Glad to hear. Downloaded the wiring diagram on my old phone and couldn't
>> zoom in on it. Checked it out on my new phone and could read it. Again,
>> glad to hear you're on your way
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2019, 5:58 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:
>>
>>> Yes it was really helpful - and now that I know what those wires are
>>> splicing the new speedo into the old connectors is going to be much easier.
>>> Will keep you posted on the progress.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jun 6, 2019, at 3:04 PM, Darin Hatton  wrote:
>>>
>>> Good luck Jenya, do any good with the wiring diagram Kyle sent?
>>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2019, 1:36 PM Graham Rogers 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just blow compressed air through them
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 1:22 PM Jenya Spektor 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I will do both - will check the overflow tubes and plastic joints as
>>>>> well as inspect and polish the needle seats.
>>>>> In fact I do not have the tubes - only the plastic t-joints in between
>>>>> the cards - I have not taken them out to see if there is blockage.
>>>>> Best, J
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 12:02 PM Darin Hatton 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Had same issue. Replaced float needles, same issue. Polished the
>>>>>> needle seats with mothers aluminum polish on q-tip in my drill. No more
>>>>>> issue
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2019, 10:33 AM Jenya Spektor 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After a series of episodes of the leaking carbs, I decided to see if
>>>>>>> it had leaked into the engine - and viola - it did.
>>>>>>> So I am taking the carbs out yet again and will double check the
>>>>>>> float levels and the float needles. Some of them (at least 3) have very
>>>>>>> little spring action left in them.
>>>>>>> Should I order a set of new ones and replace all four - since my
>>>>>>> plastic floats are not adjustable, will changing the float valves help 
>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>> with the correctly setting the height?
>>>>>>> (The carbs were cleaned well the last time I serviced them about a
>>>>>>> month ago).
>>>>>>> Could there be anything else that causes these overflow leaks?
>>>>>>> I will obviously be changing the oil as well.
>>>>>>> Any help or insight is appreciated.
>>>>>>> Jenya
>>>>>>>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Gas in engine oil - leaking carbs (again).

[Darin Hatton]

Glad to hear. Downloaded the wiring diagram on my old phone and couldn't
zoom in on it. Checked it out on my new phone and could read it. Again,
glad to hear you're on your way

On Thu, Jun 6, 2019, 5:58 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

> Yes it was really helpful - and now that I know what those wires are
> splicing the new speedo into the old connectors is going to be much easier.
> Will keep you posted on the progress.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 6, 2019, at 3:04 PM, Darin Hatton  wrote:
>
> Good luck Jenya, do any good with the wiring diagram Kyle sent?
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2019, 1:36 PM Graham Rogers 
> wrote:
>
>> Just blow compressed air through them
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 1:22 PM Jenya Spektor 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I will do both - will check the overflow tubes and plastic joints as
>>> well as inspect and polish the needle seats.
>>> In fact I do not have the tubes - only the plastic t-joints in between
>>> the cards - I have not taken them out to see if there is blockage.
>>> Best, J
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 12:02 PM Darin Hatton 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Had same issue. Replaced float needles, same issue. Polished the needle
>>>> seats with mothers aluminum polish on q-tip in my drill. No more issue
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2019, 10:33 AM Jenya Spektor 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> After a series of episodes of the leaking carbs, I decided to see if
>>>>> it had leaked into the engine - and viola - it did.
>>>>> So I am taking the carbs out yet again and will double check the float
>>>>> levels and the float needles. Some of them (at least 3) have very little
>>>>> spring action left in them.
>>>>> Should I order a set of new ones and replace all four - since my
>>>>> plastic floats are not adjustable, will changing the float valves help me
>>>>> with the correctly setting the height?
>>>>> (The carbs were cleaned well the last time I serviced them about a
>>>>> month ago).
>>>>> Could there be anything else that causes these overflow leaks?
>>>>> I will obviously be changing the oil as well.
>>>>> Any help or insight is appreciated.
>>>>> Jenya
>>>>>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Gas in engine oil - leaking carbs (again).

[Darin Hatton]

Good luck Jenya, do any good with the wiring diagram Kyle sent?
On Thu, Jun 6, 2019, 1:36 PM Graham Rogers 
wrote:

> Just blow compressed air through them
>
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 1:22 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:
>
>> I will do both - will check the overflow tubes and plastic joints as well
>> as inspect and polish the needle seats.
>> In fact I do not have the tubes - only the plastic t-joints in between
>> the cards - I have not taken them out to see if there is blockage.
>> Best, J
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 12:02 PM Darin Hatton 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Had same issue. Replaced float needles, same issue. Polished the needle
>>> seats with mothers aluminum polish on q-tip in my drill. No more issue
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2019, 10:33 AM Jenya Spektor 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> After a series of episodes of the leaking carbs, I decided to see if it
>>>> had leaked into the engine - and viola - it did.
>>>> So I am taking the carbs out yet again and will double check the float
>>>> levels and the float needles. Some of them (at least 3) have very little
>>>> spring action left in them.
>>>> Should I order a set of new ones and replace all four - since my
>>>> plastic floats are not adjustable, will changing the float valves help me
>>>> with the correctly setting the height?
>>>> (The carbs were cleaned well the last time I serviced them about a
>>>> month ago).
>>>> Could there be anything else that causes these overflow leaks?
>>>> I will obviously be changing the oil as well.
>>>> Any help or insight is appreciated.
>>>> Jenya
>>>>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 84 700S makeover

[Darin Hatton]

Looking good kiwi

On Fri, May 31, 2019, 4:15 PM Graham Rogers 
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> All squirrels were evicted and residue eliminated. Engines runs great.
> Just waiting now on body set with new decals to be clear coated. Graham
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Wiring of the Speedo/Tach cluster

[Darin Hatton]

HI jenya, do you have a copy of the factory service manual for your bike?
It shows what the wires are you are referring to in the wiring diagram.  My
nighthawk is a 700s so I'm not sure they are exactly the same . If you do
have the manual and aren't sure about reading the wiring diagram I'm sure
we can help. Let me see if I can download the manual for your bike and
assist further. D

On Thu, May 30, 2019, 5:28 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

> Hey friends,
> I am in a process of installing a single digital speedo and would like to
> use the plugs and the connectors from a spare original Speedo/tach cluster
> (for the 1983 NH 650) - so that I don't have to disturb any of the stock
> wiring.
>
> I had a question about what are some of the wires and thus I am back
> asking...
> I am attaching three pictures that I took of the wire bundles coming out
> of the cluster unit. I do know that one picture shows different gear
> indicator wires (1st through 6th gear).
> Not sure about the other two pictures (Misc 1 & 2) - can someone break it
> down for me? As many of the novices, I am thoroughly scared and confused
> with anything to do with wiring. I would greatly appreciate your help.
>
> Jenya, NYC
>
> PS - I am preserving pretty much everything on my 650 so that I can change
> it back to a stock with ease - because I do like the stock look as well.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 85 hawk to cafe racer

[Darin Hatton]

Did someone in this post say "modify and IMPROVE "

On Tue, May 21, 2019, 11:39 AM Graham Rogers 
wrote:

> A challenge!
>
> On Tue, May 21, 2019, 11:23 AM bobshel...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Bummer
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> 
>>
>> On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 9:49 AM, Graham Rogers
>>  wrote:
>> I forgot to take before pics
>>
>> On Tue, May 21, 2019, 10:31 AM bobshel...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Do you have pictures?
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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>>
>> On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 9:12 AM, Graham Rogers
>>  wrote:
>> Guilty.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On May 21, 2019, at 9:26 AM, "bobshel...@gmail.com" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> You just can't help yourself. You're a restoration junkie aren't you
>> Graham. How's it going Sir Graham? I've been busier than a one legged
>> wallpaper hanger at a butt kicking contest.
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> 
>>
>> On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 8:05 AM, Graham Rogers
>>  wrote:
>> I’m also working on a 700S. Worst shape bike I have ever seen. 12 years
>> in a shed covered by a tarp with generations of squirrels living in it.
>> They even got up the exhausts into the engine and through the carbs into
>> the engine. The corrosion and rust  means having to replace lots of stuff.
>> I’ll see how far I get with it - of course the tank is useless. I threw it
>> away, Graham
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 8:58 AM Matthew Puschell <
>> matthewpusch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Graham, every modification I made could be reversed and back to stock in
>> no time. It handles beautifully still
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 20, 2019, at 9:24 PM, Graham Rogers 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Tank looks familiar
>>
>> On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 9:23 PM Matthew 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Monday, January 14, 2019 at 6:48:06 PM UTC-5, roidfingers wrote:
>>
>> Got the carb supports on today and the air filters. Didn't have any gas.
>> Sprained a bit of brake cleaner in there. Been sitting for 4 months. She
>> fired right up for a few seconds. I'm waiting on a new petcock. But will
>> try fresh gas tomorrow. Gonna have to get some mufflers. Wow. just two foot
>> of pipe. All four. Synk the carbs and the start on front end.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Gas tank issue?

[Darin Hatton]

Check your petcock screen.  That should be the only filter if your bike is
still stock. If you are handy enough, look at the free to download honda
factory service manuals and clean out the jets in carbs.

On Thu, May 9, 2019, 9:08 PM Harold Peters  wrote:

> Before the filter I was able to get it up to 85 miles per hour. Now at 70
> miles per hour sustained it seems like the engine just slowly dies. I let
> it sit and cool, and after I take off I can go 60-65 all day long until I
> take it up to the 70 mark
>
> On Thu, May 9, 2019, 6:03 PM Darin Hatton  wrote:
>
>> Holger has had similar problems which were fuel filter related.
>>
>> On Thu, May 9, 2019, 8:58 PM Harold Peters  wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you for the compliment Darin. I liked my free black one so well
>>> that I had to buy a blue one. I have a older KG rack that I'm going to put
>>> on the blue one in place of the Honda Line backrest. It is fully adjustable
>>> also to the driver position
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 9, 2019, 5:48 PM Darin Hatton 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nice looking rig Herold. What year is that bike?
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 9, 2019, 8:42 PM Harold Peters 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I had similar problems. As for checking the gas cap suck on it with it
>>>>> open or off like I did. Seems like the most I can use in my tank is 2.6
>>>>> gallons. Recently did a run to Sacramento in 18 hours from Oregon City,
>>>>> Oregon. But I do have a problem that I'm going to take as cavitation after
>>>>> my second fuel line
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 7, 2019, 7:58 PM Kyle Munz  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The easiest way to check the gas cap vent is to just pop open the gas
>>>>>> cap and go for a ride (be careful of spills/splashes and maybe not try 
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> with a full tank.) The vent is there to allow air to enter the tank as it
>>>>>> empties to keep the pressure equalized, if it gets clogged the vacuum
>>>>>> builds up in the tank and will overcome the gravity trying to pull the 
>>>>>> fuel
>>>>>> out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Kyle
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 8:11 PM Darin Hatton 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Could be holger, damn things seam to be quite finicky compared to
>>>>>>> gravity fed petcock.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, May 6, 2019, 9:06 PM Holger Selover-Stephan <
>>>>>>> hol...@shadowbrush.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I should add her petcock is leaking (again). I had rebuilt it, but
>>>>>>>> only the vacuum side. Next I will replace the round gasket in the other
>>>>>>>> side. Maybe it’s the petcock after all.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Holger
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > On May 6, 2019, at 6:00 PM, Amanda Wurzer <
>>>>>>>> amanda.wur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Makes sense. But it's weird that it only started happening this
>>>>>>>> year. And only seems to happen at a lower fuel level
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Gas tank issue?

[Darin Hatton]

Holger has had similar problems which were fuel filter related.

On Thu, May 9, 2019, 8:58 PM Harold Peters  wrote:

> Thank you for the compliment Darin. I liked my free black one so well that
> I had to buy a blue one. I have a older KG rack that I'm going to put on
> the blue one in place of the Honda Line backrest. It is fully adjustable
> also to the driver position
>
> On Thu, May 9, 2019, 5:48 PM Darin Hatton  wrote:
>
>> Nice looking rig Herold. What year is that bike?
>>
>> On Thu, May 9, 2019, 8:42 PM Harold Peters  wrote:
>>
>>> I had similar problems. As for checking the gas cap suck on it with it
>>> open or off like I did. Seems like the most I can use in my tank is 2.6
>>> gallons. Recently did a run to Sacramento in 18 hours from Oregon City,
>>> Oregon. But I do have a problem that I'm going to take as cavitation after
>>> my second fuel line
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 7, 2019, 7:58 PM Kyle Munz  wrote:
>>>
>>>> The easiest way to check the gas cap vent is to just pop open the gas
>>>> cap and go for a ride (be careful of spills/splashes and maybe not try this
>>>> with a full tank.) The vent is there to allow air to enter the tank as it
>>>> empties to keep the pressure equalized, if it gets clogged the vacuum
>>>> builds up in the tank and will overcome the gravity trying to pull the fuel
>>>> out.
>>>>
>>>> -Kyle
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 8:11 PM Darin Hatton 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Could be holger, damn things seam to be quite finicky compared to
>>>>> gravity fed petcock.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, May 6, 2019, 9:06 PM Holger Selover-Stephan <
>>>>> hol...@shadowbrush.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I should add her petcock is leaking (again). I had rebuilt it, but
>>>>>> only the vacuum side. Next I will replace the round gasket in the other
>>>>>> side. Maybe it’s the petcock after all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Holger
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > On May 6, 2019, at 6:00 PM, Amanda Wurzer 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Makes sense. But it's weird that it only started happening this
>>>>>> year. And only seems to happen at a lower fuel level
>>>>>>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Gas tank issue?

[Darin Hatton]

Nice looking rig Herold. What year is that bike?

On Thu, May 9, 2019, 8:42 PM Harold Peters  wrote:

> I had similar problems. As for checking the gas cap suck on it with it
> open or off like I did. Seems like the most I can use in my tank is 2.6
> gallons. Recently did a run to Sacramento in 18 hours from Oregon City,
> Oregon. But I do have a problem that I'm going to take as cavitation after
> my second fuel line
>
> On Tue, May 7, 2019, 7:58 PM Kyle Munz  wrote:
>
>> The easiest way to check the gas cap vent is to just pop open the gas cap
>> and go for a ride (be careful of spills/splashes and maybe not try this
>> with a full tank.) The vent is there to allow air to enter the tank as it
>> empties to keep the pressure equalized, if it gets clogged the vacuum
>> builds up in the tank and will overcome the gravity trying to pull the fuel
>> out.
>>
>> -Kyle
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 8:11 PM Darin Hatton 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Could be holger, damn things seam to be quite finicky compared to
>>> gravity fed petcock.
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 6, 2019, 9:06 PM Holger Selover-Stephan <
>>> hol...@shadowbrush.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I should add her petcock is leaking (again). I had rebuilt it, but only
>>>> the vacuum side. Next I will replace the round gasket in the other side.
>>>> Maybe it’s the petcock after all.
>>>>
>>>> Holger
>>>>
>>>> > On May 6, 2019, at 6:00 PM, Amanda Wurzer 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Makes sense. But it's weird that it only started happening this year.
>>>> And only seems to happen at a lower fuel level
>>>>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Gas tank issue?

[Darin Hatton]

Could be holger, damn things seam to be quite finicky compared to gravity
fed petcock.

On Mon, May 6, 2019, 9:06 PM Holger Selover-Stephan 
wrote:

> I should add her petcock is leaking (again). I had rebuilt it, but only
> the vacuum side. Next I will replace the round gasket in the other side.
> Maybe it’s the petcock after all.
>
> Holger
>
> > On May 6, 2019, at 6:00 PM, Amanda Wurzer 
> wrote:
> >
> > Makes sense. But it's weird that it only started happening this year.
> And only seems to happen at a lower fuel level
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Gas tank issue?

[Darin Hatton]

Very nice! If your petcock filter (tube screen) is intact and in good
order, tank is clean, you shouldn't need an inline filter. Any more
filtering restricts fuel flow. They didn't come with one from factory

On Mon, May 6, 2019, 8:37 PM Amanda Wurzer  wrote:

> This was yesterday
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2019, 7:35 PM Darin Hatton  wrote:
>
>> Forgot to mention, we need pics or it didn't happen!!! : )
>>
>> On Mon, May 6, 2019, 8:35 PM Darin Hatton  wrote:
>>
>>> Have you added or do you have an inline fuel filter? They tend to slow
>>> down flow to carbs. Checked your gas cap for proper venting? As fuel goes
>>> out air must come in. Couple easy things to check
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 6, 2019, 8:24 PM MizMandaLyn 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does it ever end? Haha
>>>>
>>>> I got everything back together. She's beautiful. Blinkers work
>>>> swinginly. Starts right up with barely any choke. Carbs all synced.
>>>>
>>>> However, now she loses fuel for some reason. The fuel randomly stops
>>>> flowing. I rebuilt the petcock thinking that was the issue. Sadly this
>>>> didn't solve the problem. It doesn't seem to happen as often on a full tank
>>>> but as soon as the tank gets around half or less, it'll run out of fuel.
>>>> Once I blow into the tank and suck on the vacuum hose, then it's fine again
>>>> for a bit.
>>>>
>>>> I'm out of ideas on this one, guys. Help.
>>>>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Gas tank issue?

[Darin Hatton]

Forgot to mention, we need pics or it didn't happen!!! : )

On Mon, May 6, 2019, 8:35 PM Darin Hatton  wrote:

> Have you added or do you have an inline fuel filter? They tend to slow
> down flow to carbs. Checked your gas cap for proper venting? As fuel goes
> out air must come in. Couple easy things to check
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2019, 8:24 PM MizMandaLyn  wrote:
>
>> Does it ever end? Haha
>>
>> I got everything back together. She's beautiful. Blinkers work swinginly.
>> Starts right up with barely any choke. Carbs all synced.
>>
>> However, now she loses fuel for some reason. The fuel randomly stops
>> flowing. I rebuilt the petcock thinking that was the issue. Sadly this
>> didn't solve the problem. It doesn't seem to happen as often on a full tank
>> but as soon as the tank gets around half or less, it'll run out of fuel.
>> Once I blow into the tank and suck on the vacuum hose, then it's fine again
>> for a bit.
>>
>> I'm out of ideas on this one, guys. Help.
>>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Gas tank issue?

[Darin Hatton]

Have you added or do you have an inline fuel filter? They tend to slow down
flow to carbs. Checked your gas cap for proper venting? As fuel goes out
air must come in. Couple easy things to check

On Mon, May 6, 2019, 8:24 PM MizMandaLyn  wrote:

> Does it ever end? Haha
>
> I got everything back together. She's beautiful. Blinkers work swinginly.
> Starts right up with barely any choke. Carbs all synced.
>
> However, now she loses fuel for some reason. The fuel randomly stops
> flowing. I rebuilt the petcock thinking that was the issue. Sadly this
> didn't solve the problem. It doesn't seem to happen as often on a full tank
> but as soon as the tank gets around half or less, it'll run out of fuel.
> Once I blow into the tank and suck on the vacuum hose, then it's fine again
> for a bit.
>
> I'm out of ideas on this one, guys. Help.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1980 Suzuki GS550E

[Darin Hatton]

You swing by Guam on your way home from new zealand and dig another
"PHANTOM " out of that famed gold mine of yours graham?  That's a great
story and one sweet looking ride

On Sat, May 4, 2019, 1:52 PM Graham Rogers 
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> It does have a Nighthawk front brake reservoir and lever Graham
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Carbs clogged...again??

[Darin Hatton]

Thanks holger

On Mon, Apr 29, 2019, 1:21 PM Holger Selover-Stephan 
wrote:

> Darin: unfortunately I don't know as the fuel filter came with the bike.
> Never had an issue with it around town and even driving backcountry roads
> at 50-60 mph. We only ran into fuel starvation when going >60 mph on the
> freeway.
>
> Yeah, I'd like to add an inline filter as well, but for now, both the 650
> and the 700 have none. I bought this one:
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0014C81R2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8=1
>  but
> didn't realize how big it is. Still, if I can get it in I'll try it out on
> the 700. This filter is more than double the size of the one that choked
> the 650.
>
> Holger
>
> On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 10:13:46 AM UTC-7, Darin Hatton wrote:
>>
>> So holger, what micron size fuel filter did you use when having the
>> trouble at freeway speeds ? Would like to add one to mine as I am getting
>> very fine particles of the liner inside my tank into the carbs. Thanks
>> Darin. 85 700s
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Carbs clogged...again??

[Darin Hatton]

So holger, what micron size fuel filter did you use when having the trouble at 
freeway speeds ? Would like to add one to mine as I am getting very fine 
particles of the liner inside my tank into the carbs. Thanks Darin. 85 700s

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1983 Nighthawk 650 help

[Darin Hatton]

I'd be interested to see if it helped your low compression

On Sun, Apr 28, 2019, 1:25 PM aajawo  wrote:

> I used 5 oz of seafoam.  I think the oil capacity is around 2.5 liters.  I
> ran it on the road for maybe 30 minutes.  I haven't decided when I'll
> change the oil
>
> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019, 11:22 AM 'Pike' via Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <
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>> How much sea foam did you use, what is your oil capacity, and how many
>> hot cold cycles over the 2 you specified will you leave it in for?
>>
>> On Apr 28, 2019, at 11:45 AM, aajawo  wrote:
>>
>> So I put Seam Foam in the crankcase and the bike completely stopped
>> smoking out the exhaust after a few hot cold cycles sitting on the center
>> stand.  Cause and effect?  Who can say for sure, but I am satisfied.  I
>> haven't rechecked compression yet.
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 12:03:31 PM UTC-6, aajawo wrote:
>>>
>>> So a few weeks ago I purchased a 1983 NH 650 to restore.  It has 17k
>>> miles and hadn't been started for years.  I installed new battery and
>>> rebuilt the carbs.  The compression with cold engine was 130 PSI for all
>>> cylinders with throttle closed (forgot to hold it open). At first it
>>> started up and ran fine.  Now it's blowing blue smoke out exhaust.
>>> Rechecked compression with warm engine and open throttle and all cylinders
>>> at 120 PSI except number 2 at 100 PSI.  Can anyone office advice on where I
>>> should go from here?  I figure the top end is toast and needs an expensive
>>> rebuild with new pistons and rings if not more.  Oh and I've never ridden
>>> it.  All this is with the bike sitting on the center stand.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1983 Nighthawk 650 help

[Darin Hatton]

Running on the road under a load instead of on the center stand may free
things up

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019, 12:10 PM bobshel...@gmail.com 
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> Good advice  Thanks!
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> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 10:55 AM, aajawo
>  wrote:
> Thanks, I also got advice from local shop.  But they recommend Sea Foam in
> crankcase.  I've only run it on the center stand for about 30 minutes and
> it does seem to be helping.  Next, shop said to change oil, run it on the
> road for 40 minutes, let cool, add Sea Foam, run on road for 40 minutes,
> and then repeat.  Shop says this will remove varnish from cylinder walls.
>
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019, 9:44 AM Darin Hatton  wrote:
>
> When I got my 700s fired up for the first time #1 cylinder wasn't firing.
> Compression check showed 80lbs in that cylinder. My problem was stuck
> piston rings from sitting for years. I mixed acetone and atf  50/50 and
> poured into cylinder, let soak for a week. This brought compression up to
> 120 , cylinder is firing and no more smoke.  Got to change oil after the
> soak as some , if not all of the mixture will end up in crankcase. Darin
>
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2019, 10:32 PM Graham Rogers 
> wrote:
>
> 100 psi is not bad, bike should run. Something else is going on
>
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> > On Apr 24, 2019, at 6:03 AM, aajawo  wrote:
> >
> > So a few weeks ago I purchased a 1983 NH 650 to restore.  It has 17k
> miles and hadn't been started for years.  I installed new battery and
> rebuilt the carbs.  The compression with cold engine was 130 PSI for all
> cylinders with throttle closed (forgot to hold it open). At first it
> started up and ran fine.  Now it's blowing blue smoke out exhaust.
> Rechecked compression with warm engine and open throttle and all cylinders
> at 120 PSI except number 2 at 100 PSI.  Can anyone office advice on where I
> should go from here?  I figure the top end is toast and needs an expensive
> rebuild with new pistons and rings if not more.  Oh and I've never ridden
> it.  All this is with the bike sitting on the center stand.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1983 Nighthawk 650 help

[Darin Hatton]

When I got my 700s fired up for the first time #1 cylinder wasn't firing.
Compression check showed 80lbs in that cylinder. My problem was stuck
piston rings from sitting for years. I mixed acetone and atf  50/50 and
poured into cylinder, let soak for a week. This brought compression up to
120 , cylinder is firing and no more smoke.  Got to change oil after the
soak as some , if not all of the mixture will end up in crankcase. Darin

On Tue, Apr 23, 2019, 10:32 PM Graham Rogers 
wrote:

> 100 psi is not bad, bike should run. Something else is going on
>
> Sent from my iPad
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> > On Apr 24, 2019, at 6:03 AM, aajawo  wrote:
> >
> > So a few weeks ago I purchased a 1983 NH 650 to restore.  It has 17k
> miles and hadn't been started for years.  I installed new battery and
> rebuilt the carbs.  The compression with cold engine was 130 PSI for all
> cylinders with throttle closed (forgot to hold it open). At first it
> started up and ran fine.  Now it's blowing blue smoke out exhaust.
> Rechecked compression with warm engine and open throttle and all cylinders
> at 120 PSI except number 2 at 100 PSI.  Can anyone office advice on where I
> should go from here?  I figure the top end is toast and needs an expensive
> rebuild with new pistons and rings if not more.  Oh and I've never ridden
> it.  All this is with the bike sitting on the center stand.
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