Re: [nlug] Processor question
Hmm, for a few bucks more, look at this one. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5214778&Sku=B69-0122 AMD dual core with virtualization and the same clock speed. Plus 1 tb disk, and 4gb of ram. Look around, there are tons of cheap options. BTW, one of the things I saw missing in your description was the types of OSes you wished to virtualize and play with. Basically if you needed something on the order of VMWare or if vserver would handle the job well enough. - "Andrew Farnsworth" wrote: > On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Sabuj Pattanayek > wrote: > > > > The E6300 which I am considering does include it according to > Intel's > > fact > > > page. > > > > You're talking about the 2.8GHz E6300 Pentium D right? How much are > > you paying for the complete system? > > > > $300 for cpu/fan/mb/2gb RAM/Case/PSU > > no HD/Keyboard/Mouse > > > > > > Barebones system > > Andy > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "NLUG" group. > To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=. -- Steven Critchfield cri...@basesys.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=.
Re: [nlug] Processor question
You can get another core for $7 more: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103648 vs the E6300: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/default.aspx?p=84&p2=94 On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:06 PM, Sabuj Pattanayek wrote: >>> You're talking about the 2.8GHz E6300 Pentium D right? How much are >>> you paying for the complete system? >> >> $300 for cpu/fan/mb/2gb RAM/Case/PSU >> >> no HD/Keyboard/Mouse > > The Phenom II X2 550 BE 3.1GHz is slightly faster in most benchmarks here: > > http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3572&p=1 > > cpu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103680 > 2GB mem : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820178213 > mobo w/video: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138167 > case+psu : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811148030 > > Total : $298.98 w/tax + shipping > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=.
Re: [nlug] Processor question
>> You're talking about the 2.8GHz E6300 Pentium D right? How much are >> you paying for the complete system? > > $300 for cpu/fan/mb/2gb RAM/Case/PSU > > no HD/Keyboard/Mouse The Phenom II X2 550 BE 3.1GHz is slightly faster in most benchmarks here: http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3572&p=1 cpu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103680 2GB mem : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820178213 mobo w/video: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138167 case+psu : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811148030 Total : $298.98 w/tax + shipping -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=.
Re: [nlug] Processor question
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Sabuj Pattanayek wrote: > > The E6300 which I am considering does include it according to Intel's > fact > > page. > > You're talking about the 2.8GHz E6300 Pentium D right? How much are > you paying for the complete system? > $300 for cpu/fan/mb/2gb RAM/Case/PSU no HD/Keyboard/Mouse > > Barebones system Andy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=.
Re: [nlug] Processor question
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Andrew Farnsworth wrote: > On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Chris McQuistion > wrote: >> >> The Pentium D's and some of the really low end Core 2's do not have >> hardware virtualization on the chip. Intel calls this Intel VT, AMD calls >> it AMD-V. There are some programs that do software (para) virtualization >> and don't require this built into the CPU, but most virtualization software >> requires it and it makes a noticeable performance difference. >> All recent AMD chips have this built in, only Core 2 Duo and above have it >> on the Intel side. If you're considering virtualization now or sometime in >> the future, make sure you get the CPU that can handle it. >> Chris > > The E6300 which I am considering does include it according to Intel's fact > page. > > Thanks for the advice though. > > Andy > make sure the chipset/mb will enable the cpu features you want the cpu having the flag does not mean it will do the function if the chipset doesnt -- -- NOT sent from an iphone,blackberry,Nokia, or any handheld. -- I'm a PC(x86 AND ppc) AND I RUN LINUX!!! Linux is like ice cream. It comes in many flavors and everyone has their favorite, but we all get the same smile regardless of which we choose to scoop. - Arthur Brisbane - "A good friend can tell you what is the matter with you in a minute. He may not seem such a g... - http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/26803.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=.
Re: [nlug] Processor question
> The E6300 which I am considering does include it according to Intel's fact > page. You're talking about the 2.8GHz E6300 Pentium D right? How much are you paying for the complete system? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=.
Re: [nlug] Processor question
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Chris McQuistion wrote: > The Pentium D's and some of the really low end Core 2's do not have > hardware virtualization on the chip. Intel calls this Intel VT, AMD calls > it AMD-V. There are some programs that do software (para) virtualization > and don't require this built into the CPU, but most virtualization software > requires it and it makes a noticeable performance difference. > > All recent AMD chips have this built in, only Core 2 Duo and above have it > on the Intel side. If you're considering virtualization now or sometime in > the future, make sure you get the CPU that can handle it. > > Chris > The E6300 which I am considering does include it according to Intel's fact page. Thanks for the advice though. Andy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=.
Re: [nlug] Processor question
The Pentium D's and some of the really low end Core 2's do not have hardware virtualization on the chip. Intel calls this Intel VT, AMD calls it AMD-V. There are some programs that do software (para) virtualization and don't require this built into the CPU, but most virtualization software requires it and it makes a noticeable performance difference. All recent AMD chips have this built in, only Core 2 Duo and above have it on the Intel side. If you're considering virtualization now or sometime in the future, make sure you get the CPU that can handle it. Chris On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Andrew Farnsworth wrote: > Pentium-D vs Core2 > Pentium-D vs AMD Athlon/Phenom > > Opinions? Differences? > > I'm looking at building a cheap system to use as a workstation / server and > have found a cheap Pentium-D dual core system and was wondering how it would > compare to a Core2Duo or an AMD Phenom (or Phenom II). Any opinions and or > links would be appreciated. I might use if for some casual gaming but > nothing intense. I want to run VMs on the system which I will be using for > learning and development, no serious full time services. > > Andy > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NLUG" group. > To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=.
[nlug] Processor question
Pentium-D vs Core2 Pentium-D vs AMD Athlon/Phenom Opinions? Differences? I'm looking at building a cheap system to use as a workstation / server and have found a cheap Pentium-D dual core system and was wondering how it would compare to a Core2Duo or an AMD Phenom (or Phenom II). Any opinions and or links would be appreciated. I might use if for some casual gaming but nothing intense. I want to run VMs on the system which I will be using for learning and development, no serious full time services. Andy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-t...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=.
