[nlug] Re: Senate Legislation Would Federalize Cybersecurity

[Sabuj Pattanayek]

Thank god it wasn't regarding a pirated movie :

http://cbs11tv.com/technology/Core.IP.Networks.2.975776.html

On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Sabuj Pattanayek  wrote:
> Sure some of you guys may have seen this:
>
> http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/03/231220&art_pos=7
>
> scary
>

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[nlug] Re: Senate Legislation Would Federalize Cybersecurity

[Douglass Clem]

I've found the independent verification I was looking for. Amusingly enough S. 773, Cybersecurity Act of 2009 was introduced on April 1st.http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s111-773Text (PDF warning): http://cdt.org/security/CYBERSEC4.pdf--Douglass ClemChief Technology Officer,Crashsystems LLC (crashsystems.net)Public Key: E1F6 ADF3 88B4 E5C4 E3B1


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[nlug] Re: Senate Legislation Would Federalize Cybersecurity

[Sabuj Pattanayek]

Sure some of you guys may have seen this:

http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/03/231220&art_pos=7

scary

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[nlug] Re: Senate Legislation Would Federalize Cybersecurity

[Perkins, Jerry]

Mark J. Bailey wrote:
>
> if this is anything like the way HIPAA "federalized" healthcare data
> handling, but for EVERY industry, you might want to consider a career
> change!  :-)  let's hope this doesn't reach that far (or, better yet,
> go nowhere at all is my vote).  HIPAA also came with a huge
> implementation ramp up and overhead for the healthcare end of things. 
> I can't imagine how small business owners would survive the weight of
> something of that scope if applied across the board in this economy. 
> I realize that the article implies a scope that includes mainly
> larger, public service type entities.  But, once the government body
> is in place, it will be like cancer seeking out more and more niches
> to occupy.
>
   I may agree with you, but the time has passed for discussion.   The
electorate has spoke and that is the way it is going to be.

-- 
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[nlug] Re: Senate Legislation Would Federalize Cybersecurity

[Perkins, Jerry]

Chris McQuistion wrote:
> ...and if that doesn't solve it, just make government bigger...
   That is exactly what is happening.


>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Michael Chaney
> mailto:mdcha...@michaelchaney.com>> wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:35 PM, xor  > wrote:
> > "Addressing what intelligence officials describe as a gaping
> > vulnerability, the legislation also calls for the appointment of a
> > White House cybersecurity "czar" with unprecedented authority to
> shut
> > down computer networks, including private ones, if a cyberattack is
> > underway, the officials said."
> >
> > The full story is here:
> >
> 
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/31/AR2009033103684_pf.html
>
> There is no problem so big that it cannot be solved by big government.
>
> Michael
> --
> Michael Darrin Chaney, Sr.
> mdcha...@michaelchaney.com 
> http://www.michaelchaney.com/
>
>
>
>
> >


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[nlug] Re: Senate Legislation Would Federalize Cybersecurity

[Perkins, Jerry]

Michael Chaney wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:35 PM, xor  wrote:
>   
>> "Addressing what intelligence officials describe as a gaping
>> vulnerability, the legislation also calls for the appointment of a
>> White House cybersecurity "czar" with unprecedented authority to shut
>> down computer networks, including private ones, if a cyberattack is
>> underway, the officials said."
>>
>> The full story is here:
>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/31/AR2009033103684_pf.html
>> 
>
> There is no problem so big that it cannot be solved by big government.
>   
   Or is it:
   There is not problem so small that it can try to be solved by big
government.

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[nlug] Re: Senate Legislation Would Federalize Cybersecurity

[Andrew Farnsworth]

Nope, not an oxymoron.. "Intelligent Officials" would be the oxymoron...
"Intelligence Officials" are just morons...

Andy

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Jim Peterson wrote:

>  "Intelligence officials"an oxymoron of a title if you ask me!
>
>
>
> On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 11:35 -0700, xor wrote:
>
> "Addressing what intelligence officials describe as a gaping
> vulnerability, the legislation also calls for the appointment of a
> White House cybersecurity "czar" with unprecedented authority to shut
> down computer networks, including private ones, if a cyberattack is
> underway, the officials said."
>
> The full story is 
> here:http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/31/AR2009033103684_pf.html
>
>

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[nlug] Re: Senate Legislation Would Federalize Cybersecurity

[Jim Peterson]

"Intelligence officials"an oxymoron of a title if you ask me!


On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 11:35 -0700, xor wrote:

> 
> "Addressing what intelligence officials describe as a gaping
> vulnerability, the legislation also calls for the appointment of a
> White House cybersecurity "czar" with unprecedented authority to shut
> down computer networks, including private ones, if a cyberattack is
> underway, the officials said."
> 
> The full story is here:
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/31/AR2009033103684_pf.html
> 
> > 

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[nlug] Re: Senate Legislation Would Federalize Cybersecurity

[Mark J. Bailey]

no, i saw something on it last week.  it is not an april 1 thingy.  :-(



From: nlug-talk@googlegroups.com [mailto:nlug-t...@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Douglass Clem
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 19:43
To: nlug-talk@googlegroups.com
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Has anyone seen any independent verification of this? I see everyone and 
their mom blogging about it, but they all cite the Washington Post. I 
hesitate to dismiss this as an April Fools joke, as it would be a very sick 
joke and is far to close to reality to be funny. However, it _is_ the 1st of 
April, and some verification would be nice...

--
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Chief Technology Officer,
Crashsystems LLC (crashsystems.net)
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[nlug] Re: Senate Legislation Would Federalize Cybersecurity

[Douglass Clem]

Has anyone seen any independent verification of this? I see everyone and their mom blogging about it, but they all cite the Washington Post. I hesitate to dismiss this as an April Fools joke, as it would be a very sick joke and is far to close to reality to be funny. However, it _is_ the 1st of April, and some verification would be nice...--Douglass ClemChief Technology Officer,Crashsystems LLC (crashsystems.net)Public Key: E1F6 ADF3 88B4 E5C4 E3B1


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[nlug] Re: Senate Legislation Would Federalize Cybersecurity

[Ken Barber]

On Apr 1, 2009, at 1:35 PM, xor wrote:

> "...legislation also calls for the appointment of a
> White House cybersecurity "czar" with unprecedented authority to shut
> down computer networks, including private ones..."

Holy Crap!  I was joking about something very much like this at work  
just today!  I hope it's a damn April Fool's joke... but considering  
the power grabs the current administration is already making, I'm  
afraid that it isn't a joke...

Suddenly, what I said at work today isn't funny any more.


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[nlug] Re: Senate Legislation Would Federalize Cybersecurity

[Mark J. Bailey]

Coincidentally (or NOT), Encore has been running the 1984 movie "1984"
several times recently (with Richard Burton).  It does almost sound
interchangable with today's scene.  Scary stuff for sure!

 

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Behalf Of Jack Coats
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It was fun back when George Orwell wrote about it, not so much fun as it
becomes 'history'.



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[nlug] Re: Senate Legislation Would Federalize Cybersecurity

[Jack Coats]

It was fun back when George Orwell wrote about it, not so much fun as it
becomes 'history'.

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[nlug] Re: Senate Legislation Would Federalize Cybersecurity

[Mark J. Bailey]

if this is anything like the way HIPAA "federalized" healthcare data
handling, but for EVERY industry, you might want to consider a career
change!  :-)  let's hope this doesn't reach that far (or, better yet, go
nowhere at all is my vote).  HIPAA also came with a huge implementation
ramp up and overhead for the healthcare end of things.  I can't imagine
how small business owners would survive the weight of something of that
scope if applied across the board in this economy.  I realize that the
article implies a scope that includes mainly larger, public service type
entities.  But, once the government body is in place, it will be like
cancer seeking out more and more niches to occupy.

 

From: nlug-talk@googlegroups.com [mailto:nlug-t...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Chris McQuistion
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 15:21
To: nlug-talk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [nlug] Re: Senate Legislation Would Federalize Cybersecurity

 

Resistance is futile...

 

On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 2:28 PM,  wrote:

We control your internets. We control your televisions. We control your
radios.

Please remain calm as we take your home, vehicle, life from you. Do not
resist. Do not struggle.

The message was paid for by you, the consumer, and your tax dollars.

APRIL FOOLS Oh, wait...hmmm

Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T


-Original Message-
From: Michael Chaney 

Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:42:07
To: 
Subject: [nlug] Re: Senate Legislation Would Federalize Cybersecurity



On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:35 PM, xor  wrote:
> "Addressing what intelligence officials describe as a gaping
> vulnerability, the legislation also calls for the appointment of a
> White House cybersecurity "czar" with unprecedented authority to shut
> down computer networks, including private ones, if a cyberattack is
> underway, the officials said."
>
> The full story is here:
>
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/31/AR20090331
03684_pf.html

There is no problem so big that it cannot be solved by big government.

Michael
--
Michael Darrin Chaney, Sr.
mdcha...@michaelchaney.com
http://www.michaelchaney.com/





 




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[nlug] Re: Senate Legislation Would Federalize Cybersecurity

[Chris McQuistion]

Resistance is futile...

On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 2:28 PM,  wrote:

> We control your internets. We control your televisions. We control your
> radios.
>
> Please remain calm as we take your home, vehicle, life from you. Do not
> resist. Do not struggle.
>
> The message was paid for by you, the consumer, and your tax dollars.
>
> APRIL FOOLS Oh, wait...hmmm
>
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Chaney 
>
> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:42:07
> To: 
> Subject: [nlug] Re: Senate Legislation Would Federalize Cybersecurity
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:35 PM, xor  wrote:
> > "Addressing what intelligence officials describe as a gaping
> > vulnerability, the legislation also calls for the appointment of a
> > White House cybersecurity "czar" with unprecedented authority to shut
> > down computer networks, including private ones, if a cyberattack is
> > underway, the officials said."
> >
> > The full story is here:
> >
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/31/AR2009033103684_pf.html
>
> There is no problem so big that it cannot be solved by big government.
>
> Michael
> --
> Michael Darrin Chaney, Sr.
> mdcha...@michaelchaney.com
> http://www.michaelchaney.com/
>
>
>
> >
>

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[nlug] Re: Senate Legislation Would Federalize Cybersecurity

[crash180]

We control your internets. We control your televisions. We control your radios.

Please remain calm as we take your home, vehicle, life from you. Do not resist. 
Do not struggle.

The message was paid for by you, the consumer, and your tax dollars.

APRIL FOOLS Oh, wait...hmmm

Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-Original Message-
From: Michael Chaney 

Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:42:07 
To: 
Subject: [nlug] Re: Senate Legislation Would Federalize Cybersecurity



On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:35 PM, xor  wrote:
> "Addressing what intelligence officials describe as a gaping
> vulnerability, the legislation also calls for the appointment of a
> White House cybersecurity "czar" with unprecedented authority to shut
> down computer networks, including private ones, if a cyberattack is
> underway, the officials said."
>
> The full story is here:
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/31/AR2009033103684_pf.html

There is no problem so big that it cannot be solved by big government.

Michael
-- 
Michael Darrin Chaney, Sr.
mdcha...@michaelchaney.com
http://www.michaelchaney.com/



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[nlug] Re: Senate Legislation Would Federalize Cybersecurity

[JMJ]

Michael Chaney wrote:

> There is no problem so big that it cannot be solved by big government.

Depending, of course, upon how one defines "solved."

JMJ

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[nlug] Re: Senate Legislation Would Federalize Cybersecurity

[Chris McQuistion]

...and if that doesn't solve it, just make government bigger...


On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Michael Chaney
wrote:

>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:35 PM, xor  wrote:
> > "Addressing what intelligence officials describe as a gaping
> > vulnerability, the legislation also calls for the appointment of a
> > White House cybersecurity "czar" with unprecedented authority to shut
> > down computer networks, including private ones, if a cyberattack is
> > underway, the officials said."
> >
> > The full story is here:
> >
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/31/AR2009033103684_pf.html
>
> There is no problem so big that it cannot be solved by big government.
>
> Michael
> --
> Michael Darrin Chaney, Sr.
> mdcha...@michaelchaney.com
> http://www.michaelchaney.com/
>
> >
>

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[nlug] Re: Senate Legislation Would Federalize Cybersecurity

[Michael Chaney]

On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:35 PM, xor  wrote:
> "Addressing what intelligence officials describe as a gaping
> vulnerability, the legislation also calls for the appointment of a
> White House cybersecurity "czar" with unprecedented authority to shut
> down computer networks, including private ones, if a cyberattack is
> underway, the officials said."
>
> The full story is here:
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/31/AR2009033103684_pf.html

There is no problem so big that it cannot be solved by big government.

Michael
-- 
Michael Darrin Chaney, Sr.
mdcha...@michaelchaney.com
http://www.michaelchaney.com/

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