[nlug] Re: Solaris or Linux
It is the other way around (unless the fans are software controlled). :-) On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 23:57 -0500, Steven S. Critchfield wrote: Umm, how does software cause your fans to lock up?!?!?!??? Your fans are probably just lower grade, or even possibly not living in the same quality of hosting. Our colo space has filtered air, and good air flow. Fans last a long time in those environments. Good hardware treated well is unlikely to have trouble. - David R Wilson da...@wwns.com wrote: Any chance you have taken a look at some statistics on Netcraft? I have run an old version of Solaris before, it was rock stable. In years of running it I didn't see but one problem that I can recall. I can't quite say the same for Linux. I keep having to replace fans when it locks up. Dave On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 12:15 -0700, Brian wrote: Ok..I'm ready to start a war :-) haha A buddy of mine who works for a communications co. says that Solaris is way more stable for mission critical servers than linux. What do you guys think? Would any of you implement Solaris/openSolaris over Linux in certain situations? and if so why? -Brian --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[nlug] Re: Solaris or Linux
OpenSolaris IS based on Linux nowIf you have an old copy of Solaris and perhaps some old Sun hardware, you might give it a try. But for most 'modern' servers, Linux is a better choice going forward, since Sun could become part of IBM. If that happens, where will the development and support of openSolaris/Solaris go? On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 12:15 -0700, Brian wrote: Ok..I'm ready to start a war :-) haha A buddy of mine who works for a communications co. says that Solaris is way more stable for mission critical servers than linux. What do you guys think? Would any of you implement Solaris/openSolaris over Linux in certain situations? and if so why? -Brian --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[nlug] Re: Solaris or Linux
Well the way I see it Both are the same ;) But where are you going to find Solaris admin's if you had to replace someone? Linux admins are already hard enough to find. Its like my boss loves HP-UX, but if you had to hire someone, could you name more than 2 people that aren't already happily employed. Same with Solaris. Sure you can get most linux admin's and have them swtich in and learn how to work it no problem, but how do you explain that to the CIO/CFO/CTO and them not sayjust get someone with RedHat Certification and switch to Redhat cause we can hire them. Sometimes its not always what works best, but what is easier to support. Like for small office of 20-30 peopleeasier to outsource someone to run your windows servers, than to setup some linux install in Telecom, its still very much big iron/sun/old stuff. But if the place isnt entrenched in their systems, its changing away. -- -Kevin You can't turn a pig into a thoroughbred, but if you spend enough time and money, you sure can make a mighty fast pig On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Brian brian.schna...@gmail.com wrote: Ok..I'm ready to start a war :-) haha A buddy of mine who works for a communications co. says that Solaris is way more stable for mission critical servers than linux. What do you guys think? Would any of you implement Solaris/openSolaris over Linux in certain situations? and if so why? -Brian --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[nlug] Re: Solaris or Linux
I have to agree with Kevin, whole-heartedly. I've seen this situation play out over and over, specifically with trying to get someone with (applicable) Linux experience. Solaris experience is even more rare. One thing that I do lover about Solaris, however, is the ZFS filesystem. That rocks, but it still isn't enough to convince me to move away from Linux. Chris On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Kevin Hart bowl...@gmail.com wrote: Well the way I see it Both are the same ;) But where are you going to find Solaris admin's if you had to replace someone? Linux admins are already hard enough to find. Its like my boss loves HP-UX, but if you had to hire someone, could you name more than 2 people that aren't already happily employed. Same with Solaris. Sure you can get most linux admin's and have them swtich in and learn how to work it no problem, but how do you explain that to the CIO/CFO/CTO and them not sayjust get someone with RedHat Certification and switch to Redhat cause we can hire them. Sometimes its not always what works best, but what is easier to support. Like for small office of 20-30 peopleeasier to outsource someone to run your windows servers, than to setup some linux install in Telecom, its still very much big iron/sun/old stuff. But if the place isnt entrenched in their systems, its changing away. -- -Kevin You can't turn a pig into a thoroughbred, but if you spend enough time and money, you sure can make a mighty fast pig On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Brian brian.schna...@gmail.com wrote: Ok..I'm ready to start a war :-) haha A buddy of mine who works for a communications co. says that Solaris is way more stable for mission critical servers than linux. What do you guys think? Would any of you implement Solaris/openSolaris over Linux in certain situations? and if so why? -Brian --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[nlug] Re: Solaris or Linux
Any chance you have taken a look at some statistics on Netcraft? I have run an old version of Solaris before, it was rock stable. In years of running it I didn't see but one problem that I can recall. I can't quite say the same for Linux. I keep having to replace fans when it locks up. Dave On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 12:15 -0700, Brian wrote: Ok..I'm ready to start a war :-) haha A buddy of mine who works for a communications co. says that Solaris is way more stable for mission critical servers than linux. What do you guys think? Would any of you implement Solaris/openSolaris over Linux in certain situations? and if so why? -Brian --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[nlug] Re: Solaris or Linux
Umm, how does software cause your fans to lock up?!?!?!??? Your fans are probably just lower grade, or even possibly not living in the same quality of hosting. Our colo space has filtered air, and good air flow. Fans last a long time in those environments. Good hardware treated well is unlikely to have trouble. - David R Wilson da...@wwns.com wrote: Any chance you have taken a look at some statistics on Netcraft? I have run an old version of Solaris before, it was rock stable. In years of running it I didn't see but one problem that I can recall. I can't quite say the same for Linux. I keep having to replace fans when it locks up. Dave On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 12:15 -0700, Brian wrote: Ok..I'm ready to start a war :-) haha A buddy of mine who works for a communications co. says that Solaris is way more stable for mission critical servers than linux. What do you guys think? Would any of you implement Solaris/openSolaris over Linux in certain situations? and if so why? -Brian -- Steven Critchfield cri...@basesys.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups NLUG group. To post to this group, send email to nlug-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nlug-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---