[nlug] Re: Solaris or Linux

2009-04-01 Thread David R. Wilson

It is the other way around (unless the fans are software
controlled).  :-)


On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 23:57 -0500, Steven S. Critchfield wrote:
 Umm, how does software cause your fans to lock up?!?!?!???
 
 Your fans are probably just lower grade, or even possibly not living
 in the same quality of hosting. Our colo space has filtered air, and
 good air flow. Fans last a long time in those environments.
 
 Good hardware treated well is unlikely to have trouble. 
 
 - David R Wilson da...@wwns.com wrote:
 
  Any chance you have taken a look at some statistics on Netcraft?
  
  I have run an old version of Solaris before, it was rock stable.  In
  years of running it I didn't see but one problem that I can recall.
  
  I can't quite say the same for Linux.  I keep having to replace fans
  when it locks up.
  
  Dave
  
  
  
  On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 12:15 -0700, Brian wrote:
   Ok..I'm ready to start a war :-) haha
   A buddy of mine who works for a communications co. says that
  Solaris
   is way more stable for mission critical servers than linux.  What
  do
   you guys think?  Would any of you implement Solaris/openSolaris
  over
   Linux in certain situations? and if so why?
   -Brian
   
  
  


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[nlug] Re: Solaris or Linux

2009-03-31 Thread Jim Peterson
OpenSolaris IS based on Linux nowIf you have an old copy of Solaris
and perhaps some old Sun hardware, you might give it a try. But for most
'modern' servers, Linux is a better choice going forward, since Sun
could become part of IBM. If that happens, where will the development
and support of openSolaris/Solaris go?


On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 12:15 -0700, Brian wrote:

 Ok..I'm ready to start a war :-) haha
 A buddy of mine who works for a communications co. says that Solaris
 is way more stable for mission critical servers than linux.  What do
 you guys think?  Would any of you implement Solaris/openSolaris over
 Linux in certain situations? and if so why?
 -Brian
  

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[nlug] Re: Solaris or Linux

2009-03-31 Thread Kevin Hart
Well the way I see it

Both are the same ;)  But where are you going to find Solaris admin's if you
had to replace someone?  Linux admins are already hard enough to find.  Its
like my boss loves HP-UX, but if you had to hire someone, could you name
more than 2 people that aren't already happily employed.  Same with
Solaris.  Sure you can get most linux admin's and have them swtich in and
learn how to work it no problem, but how do you explain that to the
CIO/CFO/CTO and them not sayjust get someone with RedHat Certification
and switch to Redhat cause we can hire them.

Sometimes its not always what works best, but what is easier to support.

Like for small office of 20-30 peopleeasier to outsource someone to run
your windows servers, than to setup some linux install

in Telecom, its still very much big iron/sun/old stuff.  But if the place
isnt entrenched in their systems, its changing away.

--
-Kevin

You can't turn a pig into a thoroughbred,
but if you spend enough time and money,
you sure can make a mighty fast pig


On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Brian brian.schna...@gmail.com wrote:


 Ok..I'm ready to start a war :-) haha
 A buddy of mine who works for a communications co. says that Solaris
 is way more stable for mission critical servers than linux.  What do
 you guys think?  Would any of you implement Solaris/openSolaris over
 Linux in certain situations? and if so why?
 -Brian
 


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[nlug] Re: Solaris or Linux

2009-03-31 Thread Chris McQuistion
I have to agree with Kevin, whole-heartedly.  I've seen this situation play
out over and over, specifically with trying to get someone with (applicable)
Linux experience.  Solaris experience is even more rare.
One thing that I do lover about Solaris, however, is the ZFS filesystem.
 That rocks, but it still isn't enough to convince me to move away from
Linux.

Chris


On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Kevin Hart bowl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well the way I see it

 Both are the same ;)  But where are you going to find Solaris admin's if
 you had to replace someone?  Linux admins are already hard enough to find.
 Its like my boss loves HP-UX, but if you had to hire someone, could you name
 more than 2 people that aren't already happily employed.  Same with
 Solaris.  Sure you can get most linux admin's and have them swtich in and
 learn how to work it no problem, but how do you explain that to the
 CIO/CFO/CTO and them not sayjust get someone with RedHat Certification
 and switch to Redhat cause we can hire them.

 Sometimes its not always what works best, but what is easier to support.

 Like for small office of 20-30 peopleeasier to outsource someone to run
 your windows servers, than to setup some linux install

 in Telecom, its still very much big iron/sun/old stuff.  But if the place
 isnt entrenched in their systems, its changing away.

 --
 -Kevin

 You can't turn a pig into a thoroughbred,
 but if you spend enough time and money,
 you sure can make a mighty fast pig


 On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Brian brian.schna...@gmail.com wrote:


 Ok..I'm ready to start a war :-) haha
 A buddy of mine who works for a communications co. says that Solaris
 is way more stable for mission critical servers than linux.  What do
 you guys think?  Would any of you implement Solaris/openSolaris over
 Linux in certain situations? and if so why?
 -Brian



 


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[nlug] Re: Solaris or Linux

2009-03-31 Thread David R Wilson

Any chance you have taken a look at some statistics on Netcraft?

I have run an old version of Solaris before, it was rock stable.  In
years of running it I didn't see but one problem that I can recall.

I can't quite say the same for Linux.  I keep having to replace fans
when it locks up.

Dave



On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 12:15 -0700, Brian wrote:
 Ok..I'm ready to start a war :-) haha
 A buddy of mine who works for a communications co. says that Solaris
 is way more stable for mission critical servers than linux.  What do
 you guys think?  Would any of you implement Solaris/openSolaris over
 Linux in certain situations? and if so why?
 -Brian
 

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[nlug] Re: Solaris or Linux

2009-03-31 Thread Steven S. Critchfield

Umm, how does software cause your fans to lock up?!?!?!???

Your fans are probably just lower grade, or even possibly not living
in the same quality of hosting. Our colo space has filtered air, and
good air flow. Fans last a long time in those environments.

Good hardware treated well is unlikely to have trouble. 

- David R Wilson da...@wwns.com wrote:

 Any chance you have taken a look at some statistics on Netcraft?
 
 I have run an old version of Solaris before, it was rock stable.  In
 years of running it I didn't see but one problem that I can recall.
 
 I can't quite say the same for Linux.  I keep having to replace fans
 when it locks up.
 
 Dave
 
 
 
 On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 12:15 -0700, Brian wrote:
  Ok..I'm ready to start a war :-) haha
  A buddy of mine who works for a communications co. says that
 Solaris
  is way more stable for mission critical servers than linux.  What
 do
  you guys think?  Would any of you implement Solaris/openSolaris
 over
  Linux in certain situations? and if so why?
  -Brian
  
 
 
-- 
Steven Critchfield cri...@basesys.com

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