Re: [nlug] Can't make it to tonight's meeting (SDR Stuff)

2015-01-15 Thread Allen Minix
One note on the RTL-SDR:  get a better antenna.  The one that comes with
most of them is less than stellar.  You can always slap it on a cookie
sheet for a decent ground plane, but an antenna upgrade does wonders.  For
what you pay for the setup, you still can't complain!

On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Perkins, Jerry je...@jperkins.us wrote:

  On 01/14/2015 10:04 AM, David R. Wilson wrote:

 On Tue, 2015-01-13 at 15:20 -0600, andrew mcelroy wrote:


  So it was going to on GNU Radio.

 Me and David Wilson will pick up this topic.
 We have both been using GNU radio and are both Hams ( He's a lot
 smarter in this area than I am).


  For that matter just do a search on eBay or Amazon for RTL-820  .

 Dave
 KU4B



 I did just that, checked out Amazon.Found many books.Ordered
 the kindle version of The Hobbyist's Guide to the RTL-SDR by Carl
 Laufer.Got through the first chapter which helped a lot in putting
 together all the other information that Dave has supplied.   Hoping to get
 my RTL-820 in the mail today.

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Re: [nlug] Can't make it to tonight's meeting (SDR Stuff)

2015-01-15 Thread Perkins, Jerry

On 01/15/2015 09:04 AM, Perkins, Jerry wrote:
I did just that, checked out Amazon.Found many books.
Ordered the kindle version of The Hobbyist's Guide to the RTL-SDR by 
Carl Laufer.Got through the first chapter which helped a lot in 
putting together all the other information that Dave has supplied.   
Hoping to get my RTL-820 in the mail today.


   I do NOT recommend the book The Hobbyist's Guide to the RTL-SDR by 
Carl Laufer.   Started the second chapter and it is all Microsoft's Windows.


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Re: [nlug] Can't make it to tonight's meeting (SDR Stuff)

2015-01-15 Thread Perkins, Jerry

On 01/14/2015 10:04 AM, David R. Wilson wrote:

On Tue, 2015-01-13 at 15:20 -0600, andrew mcelroy wrote:
   

So it was going to on GNU Radio.

Me and David Wilson will pick up this topic.
We have both been using GNU radio and are both Hams ( He's a lot
smarter in this area than I am).
 

For that matter just do a search on eBay or Amazon for RTL-820  .

Dave
KU4B
   


I did just that, checked out Amazon.Found many books.
Ordered the kindle version of The Hobbyist's Guide to the RTL-SDR by 
Carl Laufer.Got through the first chapter which helped a lot in 
putting together all the other information that Dave has supplied.   
Hoping to get my RTL-820 in the mail today.


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Re: [nlug] Can't make it to tonight's meeting (SDR Stuff)

2015-01-15 Thread Perkins, Jerry

On 01/15/2015 09:39 AM, Perkins, Jerry wrote:

On 01/15/2015 09:04 AM, Perkins, Jerry wrote:
I did just that, checked out Amazon.Found many books.
Ordered the kindle version of The Hobbyist's Guide to the RTL-SDR 
by Carl Laufer.Got through the first chapter which helped a lot 
in putting together all the other information that Dave has 
supplied.   Hoping to get my RTL-820 in the mail today.


   I do NOT recommend the book The Hobbyist's Guide to the RTL-SDR 
by Carl Laufer.   Started the second chapter and it is all Microsoft's 
Windows.


Oops, many pages later I found the section on running with Linux.

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Re: [nlug] Can't make it to tonight's meeting (SDR Stuff)

2015-01-15 Thread Perkins, Jerry

On 01/15/2015 09:29 AM, Allen Minix wrote:
One note on the RTL-SDR:  get a better antenna.  The one that comes 
with most of them is less than stellar.  You can always slap it on a 
cookie sheet for a decent ground plane, but an antenna upgrade does 
wonders.  For what you pay for the setup, you still can't complain!


   You are very right , an antenna can make a very big difference.
   Personally looking forward to the antenna.   Have set up some and 
built my own in the past to focus on a narrow frequency width.   Works 
great.


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Re: [nlug] Can't make it to tonight's meeting (SDR Stuff)

2015-01-15 Thread David R. Wilson
On Thu, 2015-01-15 at 09:42 -0600, Perkins, Jerry wrote:
 On 01/15/2015 09:29 AM, Allen Minix wrote: 
  One note on the RTL-SDR:  get a better antenna.  The one that comes
  with most of them is less than stellar.  You can always slap it on a
  cookie sheet for a decent ground plane, but an antenna upgrade does
  wonders.  For what you pay for the setup, you still can't complain!
  


If you happen to be interested in satellite tracking or tracking the
ADS-B signals from planes one of the better antennas for such things
(somewhat simple to construct, cheap and at the ADS-B frequencies quite
small) is the Lindenblad antenna:

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/articles/w6shp/lindy.html

That would have some gain toward the horizon, but has enough coverage
immediately above the antenna to work well.

For short wave a long wire or something better would work well.  There
are adapter cables also available to change to different coax
connectors.

Dave



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Re: [nlug] Can't make it to tonight's meeting (SDR Stuff)

2015-01-14 Thread David R. Wilson
On Tue, 2015-01-13 at 15:20 -0600, andrew mcelroy wrote:
 So it was going to on GNU Radio.
 
 Me and David Wilson will pick up this topic.
 We have both been using GNU radio and are both Hams ( He's a lot
 smarter in this area than I am).


Thought I better comment about this and throw in a few bits about last
nights presentation.

Andrew doesn't claim enough credit.  Anything related to computer
programming he can certainly (and does) run circles around me.  
We have an amazing pool of talent with NLUG.  We also have many on the
mailing list that don't often show up, but are part of the resources
that we have available.

Apologies for going off topic quite a bit last night during our
discussion.  I find the SDR stuff and the hobby as a whole is
fascinating.  Being a fan of technology is not all of why I also think
this stuff is very important.  If some of you want to have another
session and me delve into why I think it is important, let me know.

SDR related stuff:

I have had my fingers into this stuff for a number of years.  In the
1980s some of my friends and I were putting in wireless networks.  We
had one link that was point to point covering 120 miles at very low
power.  In 1997 along with a number of people that were involved in the
wireless networking projects we started a mailing list (the TAPR HPSDR
list) (Tucson Amateur Packet Radio + High Performance Software Defined
Radio).  Many of those in the TAPR group are the techie type, or at
least interested in the cutting edge of technology and often are
actually developing and inventing the cutting edge of technology.
We were discussing what could be done with the technology and had people
working on code and hardware years before there was anything out there
to prove that the concept not only would work, but would be a major turn
in many phases of electronics, anything that uses RF or even audio it
has the potential to change the traditional approaches.

There is also a major effort underway to make many things SDR related
an open source project.  Some of these links are presentations that
would be far better than what I would do and are very informative.  I
would suggest watching some of it (you can skip the boring parts, like
when I am presenting such stuff and there is lots of snoring going on).

TAPR puts on a Digital Communications Conference from time to time.
That is often where some of the latest technology is announced (or
leaked) to the public.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP6AgPskARs

Another one somewhat related:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyCWJuBhADo

A bit on the current Flex Radio software effort:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuWaStl0GgI



Some more resources (some mentioned in those videos)

http://tapr.org/

http://openhpsdr.org/

http://w7fu.com/

http://gnuradio.org/redmine/projects/gnuradio/wiki/GNURadioCompanion


Some hardware on eBay (as an example of what is out there)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/171548883268?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

For that matter just do a search on eBay or Amazon for RTL-820  It is
far from being the only common chip set, but is one of the better known
examples.

As for my own interests, I have been one of many participating in
getting a suite of SDR related programs working.  The goal was to put
together a program suite that works across many platforms (Windows,
Linux, Android, Mac) and can be integrated with voice, data and legacy
modes.  This technology is evolving very fast, so my equipment is
hardware wise already out of date, but the software is still 10 years or
more to come.  I have a fairly long list of stuff that can be done with
the technology that has not seen the light of day.

The program suite I have been playing with (or damaging depending on
your point of view):

http://napan.ca/ghpsdr3/index.php/QtRadio_Installation

It is still kinda ugly.  Lots of stuff has not been implemented yet that
is working in the (Windows based) PowerSDR program.

The equipment I am using at the house:

Quad core AMD desktop machine and the HP Quad core laptop.

The Apache Labs radio:
https://apache-labs.com/al-products/1027/ANAN-100D-HF---6M-100W-ALL-MODE-SDR-TRANSCEIVER.html

Not terribly important, but this sometimes helps:
http://www.rfconcepts.com/s.nl/it.A/id.3884/.f?sc=9category=73747

And some antennas:
http://www.wwns.com/wwns/staff/david/2014update.html

Some other software efforts on various platforms:

Linrad:
http://www.sm5bsz.com/linuxdsp/linrad.htm

From Simon (HB9DRV)
http://sdr-radio.com/
His blog:
http://www.dit-dit-dit.com/blog.aspx

From John (G0ORX)

http://g0orx.blogspot.com/

A presentation from Phil (VK6PH) in 2008:
www.hamsdr.com/VK6APH/Fully%20Digital%20HF%20Radios.ppt

And then there is the SDR Hardware list that is growing weekly:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_software-defined_radios


PowerSDR

http://www.flexradio.com/amateur-products/flex-series/powersdr/


If you have made it this far in the list and looked at all of this 

Re: [nlug] Can't make it to tonight's meeting

2015-01-13 Thread andrew mcelroy
That's okay. We will still do tonight's meeting.
I'd like to check up on Feb and March's presentations.


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Re: [nlug] Can't make it to tonight's meeting

2015-01-13 Thread Michael L
What will be the topic?
  Mike
On Jan 13, 2015 3:14 PM, andrew mcelroy sophri...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's okay. We will still do tonight's meeting.
 I'd like to check up on Feb and March's presentations.


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Re: [nlug] Can't make it to tonight's meeting

2015-01-13 Thread andrew mcelroy
So it was going to on GNU Radio.

Me and David Wilson will pick up this topic.
We have both been using GNU radio and are both Hams ( He's a lot
smarter in this area than I am).

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 3:14 PM, andrew mcelroy sophri...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's okay. We will still do tonight's meeting.
 I'd like to check up on Feb and March's presentations.


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 I have a cold, and am feeling rather under the weather, so I am not going to
 be able to make it to tonight's NLUG meeting.

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Re: [nlug] Can't make it to tonight's meeting

2015-01-13 Thread Allen Minix
Haven't been to a meeting in years, but really sad that I'm missing it
tonight.  Would love to hear that talk!

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 3:20 PM, andrew mcelroy sophri...@gmail.com wrote:

 So it was going to on GNU Radio.

 Me and David Wilson will pick up this topic.
 We have both been using GNU radio and are both Hams ( He's a lot
 smarter in this area than I am).

 On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 3:14 PM, andrew mcelroy sophri...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  That's okay. We will still do tonight's meeting.
  I'd like to check up on Feb and March's presentations.
 
 
  On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 3:10 PM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com
 wrote:
  I have a cold, and am feeling rather under the weather, so I am not
 going to
  be able to make it to tonight's NLUG meeting.
 
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