RE: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org
can you say narcissist. was there enough space for him to write with his ego crowding the essay? Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:51:45 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: npny@lists.panix.com Subject: Re: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I adore Van Hunt, and thought his blog was well-written. Tameir Moderator: I listened today didn't care for him. I think he should waste less time worried about the people on Prince.org and spend more them crafting him music. I stand unimpressed at the moment. I all I hear is something ripping on Marvin Gaye -Derek On 1/17/08, Derek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't dude some kind of Vampire slayer or something? Why is he worried about what people say about him on Prince.org? I am confused? Does the guy have a first name like Bob or Timmy? Oh wait his First name is Van? Last Name Hunt? Really? Did his parents not like him? Maybe that was here he was conceived? in a Van? Who cares?! :-) _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of squarepeg72 Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org from his blog: Sunday, January 13, 2008 it's none of your business what other people say about you... Category: Blogging but, I have read my own press. Not all of it. Just enough to not be able to turn back. it's gone to my head. I can remember once going on okayplayer-trying for the 15th time to find some new info on D'angelo's still nascent record-and stumbled across a thread about the Prince comparisons that have been made about ME... some of the comments on there were downright destructive. I never even imagined that you could mix the words p**ssy and musician while stating an opinion:) Some were supportive. Even fewer were constructive or managed to put forth what I would deem accurate analysis. It all made me sick. Because I knew that NOBODY really knew what the f*ck they were talking about. I am neither as perfect as the best that has been said about me nor as mediocre as the worst that's been said. It's ironic. Just two nights ago an associate called and asked if HE should go on line and address some false accusations that were made about HIM. I told him, hell naw. Don't even give those fools any energy. That's what they live for...to dismantle people and overcompensate for their personal problems...all from behind a computer screen. And, alas, here I am. Last night I was on the computer with my son. He likes to look up biographical information on the 43 presidents. (And to think, at 5 years old, all I wanted to do was the 'robot'). After he'd his fill he asked if I would google Van Hunt's Son. I pondered his reasoning and the potential for damage that I was ignoring. I was reluctant when I said, . . .o. . .k... I pressed enter. and right there, at the top of the page was a heading, Van Hunt is Prince's Son. This time it was Prince.org. Oh, Jesus I whispered. I had to have it. Double Click. I read the first line, there aint sh*t about Van Hunt that's genius. Or something to that effect. My son reads almost as fast as i do. But, I caught him before he got to the curse words. I said go play. He started to challenge the order. I put on my transformer face. He found a toy. I read on. Of course, everyone on the thread was a Prince fan (so am i). But, to my surprise, this time I emerged from the comments without any long- term scarring. Some people didn't know enough about me to form an opinion. Some people knew enough to be enthusiastically supportive and encouraging of my work. Some were, obviously, musically inclined on top of being Prince fans. Some didn't give a damn. The debate seemed to be fueled by the bodyguarding of Prince's legacy and about the question of whether or not I was a good musician. They mentioned other musicians who would supposedly wipe the floor with me (even 10 year old musicians). What they don't realize is that I've played guitar with, for and beside most of their heroes. And, I doubt that any of those musicians would say that I couldn't hold my own. What they don't know is that guitar isn't even my first instrument. Piano is. What they don't know is I never set out to make improvisational solo records. I fast forward through Prince's guitar solos. not because they're not good. i'm just more interested in other aspects of his work (like the writing and the arrangements). As a matter of fact I would be more likely to listen to Thelonious Monk play one of his tinkly excursions than I would Art Tatum. Charlie Parker could MAKE you hear modal scales in fourths-using major minor 11ths and do it before you notice that Mccoy Tyner or Oscar Peterson didn't even have his hands on the keys. but, i put my money on Johnny Hodges. slow notes by the most beautiful horn tone
RE: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org
Oh Wow! It gets worst! I am listening to the On The Jungle Floor album he is channeling Rick James and Prince it the cheesiest song I ever heard! Oh wow! How do people like this guy?! Phbpt! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of afroTsiac Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 7:52 PM To: npny@lists.panix.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org I adore Van Hunt, and thought his blog was well-written. Tameir Moderator: I listened today didn't care for him. I think he should waste less time worried about the people on Prince.org and spend more them crafting him music. I stand unimpressed at the moment. I all I hear is something ripping on Marvin Gaye -Derek On 1/17/08, Derek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't dude some kind of Vampire slayer or something? Why is he worried about what people say about him on Prince.org? I am confused? Does the guy have a first name like Bob or Timmy? Oh wait his First name is Van? Last Name Hunt? Really? Did his parents not like him? Maybe that was here he was conceived? in a Van? Who cares?! :-) _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of squarepeg72 Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org from his blog: Sunday, January 13, 2008 it's none of your business what other people say about you... Category: Blogging but, I have read my own press. Not all of it. Just enough to not be able to turn back. it's gone to my head. I can remember once going on okayplayer-trying for the 15th time to find some new info on D'angelo's still nascent record-and stumbled across a thread about the Prince comparisons that have been made about ME... some of the comments on there were downright destructive. I never even imagined that you could mix the words p**ssy and musician while stating an opinion:) Some were supportive. Even fewer were constructive or managed to put forth what I would deem accurate analysis. It all made me sick. Because I knew that NOBODY really knew what the f*ck they were talking about. I am neither as perfect as the best that has been said about me nor as mediocre as the worst that's been said. - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org
Whatever, D! :-P ~*Tameir*~ -Original Message- From: afroTsiac [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:51:45 To:npny@lists.panix.com Cc:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org I adore Van Hunt, and thought his blog was well-written. Tameir Moderator: I listened today didn't care for him. I think he should waste less time worried about the people on Prince.org and spend more them crafting him music. I stand unimpressed at the moment. I all I hear is something ripping on Marvin Gaye -Derek On 1/17/08, Derek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't dude some kind of Vampire slayer or something? Why is he worried about what people say about him on Prince.org? I am confused? Does the guy have a first name like Bob or Timmy? Oh wait his First name is Van? Last Name Hunt? Really? Did his parents not like him? Maybe that was here he was conceived? in a Van? Who cares?! :-) - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org
Maybe silly to you, to each his own. ~*Tameir*~ Moderator: Seriously, what does Van Hunt have vested in Prince.org or any other Prince community that he would be that concerned and write a whole discertation on his blog? It really is silly. -Derek -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:54:56 To:npny@lists.panix.com Subject: Re: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org Geez, the man has got a right to defend himself. ~*Tameir*~ Moderator: againist Prince.org?! Who cares!? Is he going to defend himself against the NPNY Mailing List next? That is just silly LOL -Derek -Original Message- From: Damon Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:27:20 To:npny@lists.panix.com Subject: RE: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org can you say narcissist. was there enough space for him to write with his ego crowding the essay? Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:51:45 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: npny@lists.panix.com Subject: Re: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I adore Van Hunt, and thought his blog was well-written. Tameir Moderator: I listened today didn't care for him. - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org
I've listened to both Van Hunt CDs. I really didn't like them. The production was entirely too derivative and the lyrics, after a while, got to be just silly. To me. But it doesn't seem like he's making music for me. I'm sure this will change after I hit send, but I've never met a male who said he liked Van Hunt. The dude has a target audience: women. Considering the fact that women buy more music than men, that's not a bad marketing strategy. What confuses me is how the dude has all this time to sit around and ponder what the internet says about him. Don't people come out to his shows? What difference does it make what people on prince.org say about you if people are coming out and paying to see you perform? Van Hunt seems to be a little too emo to be funky. Which works for his target audience, maybe, but probably do much to GROW his audience. Moderator: Speakin' of growing. My friend Wade suggested I listen a few times. The albums will Grow on me. I don't want something to grow on me. That is called Brainwashing I am already a brained washed Prince fan thanks I will pass on anymore :-D -Derek On 1/18/08 8:56 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is nothing Rick James about that CD, not at all. ~*Tameir*~ Moderator: Listen to Hot Stage Lights total Rick James rip off. The Lenny Kravitz stuff is pretty good, but this guy can't sing so it take away from the song dramatically. He reminds of Andre Cymone in one track -Derek -Original Message- From: Derek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:26:53 To:npny@lists.panix.com Subject: RE: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org Oh Wow! It gets worst! I am listening to the On The Jungle Floor album he is channeling Rick James and Prince it the cheesiest song I ever heard! Oh wow! How do people like this guy?! Phbpt! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of afroTsiac Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 7:52 PM To: npny@lists.panix.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org I adore Van Hunt, and thought his blog was well-written. Tameir Moderator: I listened today didn't care for him. I think he should waste less time worried about the people on Prince.org and spend more them crafting him music. I stand unimpressed at the moment. I all I hear is something ripping on Marvin Gaye -Derek On 1/17/08, Derek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't dude some kind of Vampire slayer or something? Why is he worried about what people say about him on Prince.org? I am confused? Does the guy have a first name like Bob or Timmy? Oh wait his First name is Van? Last Name Hunt? Really? Did his parents not like him? Maybe that was here he was conceived? in a Van? Who cares?! :-) _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of squarepeg72 Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org from his blog: Sunday, January 13, 2008 it's none of your business what other people say about you... Category: Blogging but, I have read my own press. Not all of it. Just enough to not be able to turn back. it's gone to my head. I can remember once going on okayplayer-trying for the 15th time to find some new info on D'angelo's still nascent record-and stumbled across a thread about the Prince comparisons that have been made about ME... some of the comments on there were downright destructive. I never even imagined that you could mix the words p**ssy and musician while stating an opinion:) Some were supportive. Even fewer were constructive or managed to put forth what I would deem accurate analysis. It all made me sick. Because I knew that NOBODY really knew what the f*ck they were talking about. I am neither as perfect as the best that has been said about me nor as mediocre as the worst that's been said. - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org
There is nothing Rick James about that CD, not at all. ~*Tameir*~ Moderator: Listen to Hot Stage Lights total Rick James rip off. The Lenny Kravitz stuff is pretty good, but this guy can't sing so it take away from the song dramatically. He reminds of Andre Cymone in one track -Derek -Original Message- From: Derek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:26:53 To:npny@lists.panix.com Subject: RE: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org Oh Wow! It gets worst! I am listening to the On The Jungle Floor album he is channeling Rick James and Prince it the cheesiest song I ever heard! Oh wow! How do people like this guy?! Phbpt! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of afroTsiac Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 7:52 PM To: npny@lists.panix.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org I adore Van Hunt, and thought his blog was well-written. Tameir Moderator: I listened today didn't care for him. I think he should waste less time worried about the people on Prince.org and spend more them crafting him music. I stand unimpressed at the moment. I all I hear is something ripping on Marvin Gaye -Derek On 1/17/08, Derek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't dude some kind of Vampire slayer or something? Why is he worried about what people say about him on Prince.org? I am confused? Does the guy have a first name like Bob or Timmy? Oh wait his First name is Van? Last Name Hunt? Really? Did his parents not like him? Maybe that was here he was conceived? in a Van? Who cares?! :-) _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of squarepeg72 Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org from his blog: Sunday, January 13, 2008 it's none of your business what other people say about you... Category: Blogging but, I have read my own press. Not all of it. Just enough to not be able to turn back. it's gone to my head. I can remember once going on okayplayer-trying for the 15th time to find some new info on D'angelo's still nascent record-and stumbled across a thread about the Prince comparisons that have been made about ME... some of the comments on there were downright destructive. I never even imagined that you could mix the words p**ssy and musician while stating an opinion:) Some were supportive. Even fewer were constructive or managed to put forth what I would deem accurate analysis. It all made me sick. Because I knew that NOBODY really knew what the f*ck they were talking about. I am neither as perfect as the best that has been said about me nor as mediocre as the worst that's been said. - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org
He has a right to defend himself, but if he truly wanted that, he would've wrote on Prince.org not write on his own blog about the woes of a fan group criticizing him. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 8:55 AM To: npny@lists.panix.com Subject: Re: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org Geez, the man has got a right to defend himself. ~*Tameir*~ Moderator: againist Prince.org?! Who cares!? Is he going to defend himself against the NPNY Mailing List next? That is just silly LOL -Derek -Original Message- From: Damon Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:27:20 To:npny@lists.panix.com Subject: RE: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org can you say narcissist. was there enough space for him to write with his ego crowding the essay? Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:51:45 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: npny@lists.panix.com Subject: Re: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I adore Van Hunt, and thought his blog was well-written. Tameir Moderator: I listened today didn't care for him. - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org
Geez, the man has got a right to defend himself. ~*Tameir*~ Moderator: againist Prince.org?! Who cares!? Is he going to defend himself against the NPNY Mailing List next? That is just silly LOL -Derek -Original Message- From: Damon Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:27:20 To:npny@lists.panix.com Subject: RE: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org can you say narcissist. was there enough space for him to write with his ego crowding the essay? Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:51:45 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: npny@lists.panix.com Subject: Re: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I adore Van Hunt, and thought his blog was well-written. Tameir Moderator: I listened today didn't care for him. - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org
Uh, I've listened to that song many times, thank you. ~*Tameir*~ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:56:06 To:npny@lists.panix.com Subject: Re: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org There is nothing Rick James about that CD, not at all. ~*Tameir*~ Moderator: Listen to Hot Stage Lights total Rick James rip off. The Lenny Kravitz stuff is pretty good, but this guy can't sing so it take away from the song dramatically. He reminds of Andre Cymone in one track -Derek -Original Message- From: Derek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:26:53 To:npny@lists.panix.com Subject: RE: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org Oh Wow! It gets worst! I am listening to the On The Jungle Floor album he is channeling Rick James and Prince it the cheesiest song I ever heard! Oh wow! How do people like this guy?! Phbpt! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of afroTsiac Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 7:52 PM To: npny@lists.panix.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org I adore Van Hunt, and thought his blog was well-written. Tameir Moderator: I listened today didn't care for him. I think he should waste less time worried about the people on Prince.org and spend more them crafting him music. I stand unimpressed at the moment. I all I hear is something ripping on Marvin Gaye -Derek On 1/17/08, Derek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't dude some kind of Vampire slayer or something? Why is he worried about what people say about him on Prince.org? I am confused? Does the guy have a first name like Bob or Timmy? Oh wait his First name is Van? Last Name Hunt? Really? Did his parents not like him? Maybe that was here he was conceived? in a Van? Who cares?! :-) _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of squarepeg72 Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org from his blog: Sunday, January 13, 2008 it's none of your business what other people say about you... Category: Blogging but, I have read my own press. Not all of it. Just enough to not be able to turn back. it's gone to my head. I can remember once going on okayplayer-trying for the 15th time to find some new info on D'angelo's still nascent record-and stumbled across a thread about the Prince comparisons that have been made about ME... some of the comments on there were downright destructive. I never even imagined that you could mix the words p**ssy and musician while stating an opinion:) Some were supportive. Even fewer were constructive or managed to put forth what I would deem accurate analysis. It all made me sick. Because I knew that NOBODY really knew what the f*ck they were talking about. I am neither as perfect as the best that has been said about me nor as mediocre as the worst that's been said. - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org
haha D, tu eres trippin'!... I know a great product to help clean the wax buildup in your ears. ;) Moderator: Musically he is good especially the Lenny stuff, but dude can't sing to save his life. Its really bad. -Derek --- : M: : A: : Y: : A: : Fri Jan 18 09: 30: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED];;;, ::M::A::Y::A:: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whether you think he sounds like this or that, Prince or otherwise, he's one of the very few artists out there taking chances making real f*cking music. Personally, I enjoy his music and I'm looking forward to his future releases. Moderator: How about this, He not sing and have someone else sing for him? Maybe I would like him more. His voice is horrible! -Derek --- Oliver, Damon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He has a right to defend himself, but if he truly wanted that, he would've wrote on Prince.org not write on his own blog about the woes of a fan group criticizing him. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 8:55 AM To: npny@lists.panix.com Subject: Re: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org Geez, the man has got a right to defend himself. ~*Tameir*~ Moderator: againist Prince.org?! Who cares!? Is he going to defend himself against the NPNY Mailing List next? That is just silly LOL -Derek -Original Message- From: Damon Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:27:20 To:npny@lists.panix.com Subject: RE: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org can you say narcissist. was there enough space for him to write with his ego crowding the essay? Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:51:45 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: npny@lists.panix.com Subject: Re: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I adore Van Hunt, and thought his blog was well-written. Tameir Moderator: I listened today didn't care for him. - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofilefriendID=15 623704 Moderator: What is that? I don't click strange links -Derek On 1/18/08, afroTsiac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: **Moderator: My major point is why is he worried about the people on a some Prince board on the internet?** Post a comment on his blog or email him and ask. T Moderator: I don't know where it is, I didn't even know it was from him blog or that he had a blog till someone mentioned it hear. I actually don't care enough to find out either :-P -Derek On 1/18/08, afroTsiac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ** Van Hunt doesn't do it for me, and apparently, there are a few people on the internet who agree with me.** Honest opinions/criticism is one thing, but the ugliness on the Org is uncalled for, and downright nasty. No one is saying anyone has to like him. I don't doubt for a minute that the majority of those chiming in over there have hardly even heard his music. T Moderator: My major point is why is he worried about the people on a some Prince board on the internet? Seriously if this happened on Vanhunt.orgI would totally understand. Oh wait! Nobody cares enough about him to do that :-D -Derek On 1/18/08, Lockhart, Daryle [GSM] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right. I didn't say there were none, I'm just saying that I haven't met any. I have also never been to a Van Hunt show. And to be honest, I have been to many a show because my wife (or former girlfriend back in the day) was really into some artist and wanted to see him perform. Maxwell and Babyface come immediately to mind. No WAY would I care enough to go see those guys by myself or with a crew of friends. But every time I go to an Omar show, for example, I see a lot of my male friends there. My wife and I both enjoy Omar's music, and we know many people who don't like him. We're all grownups. If you don't like a singer, so what. It's about enjoying the night out. But when it comes to buying a CD, or downloading some tunes, Van Hunt doesn't do it for me, and apparently, there are a few people on the internet who agree with me. Someone, though, thought Van was good enough to sign to Capitol and send an advance check to. This isn't some struggling indie artist that 'needs our support' or anything like that. This is a dude with two albums. Someone thinks Van is good enough to go pay and see. That's all that matters. I think Van's taking himself too seriously, and, again, is too emo to be funky. Daryle Moderator: You should copyright that term D. Emo Funk -Derek On 1/18/08 11:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've seen plenty of *males who like Van Hunt* at his shows. ~*Tameir*~ Moderator: I am sure there are ;-) -Derek - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org
Right. I didn't say there were none, I'm just saying that I haven't met any. I have also never been to a Van Hunt show. And to be honest, I have been to many a show because my wife (or former girlfriend back in the day) was really into some artist and wanted to see him perform. Maxwell and Babyface come immediately to mind. No WAY would I care enough to go see those guys by myself or with a crew of friends. But every time I go to an Omar show, for example, I see a lot of my male friends there. My wife and I both enjoy Omar's music, and we know many people who don't like him. We're all grownups. If you don't like a singer, so what. It's about enjoying the night out. But when it comes to buying a CD, or downloading some tunes, Van Hunt doesn't do it for me, and apparently, there are a few people on the internet who agree with me. Someone, though, thought Van was good enough to sign to Capitol and send an advance check to. This isn't some struggling indie artist that 'needs our support' or anything like that. This is a dude with two albums. Someone thinks Van is good enough to go pay and see. That's all that matters. I think Van's taking himself too seriously, and, again, is too emo to be funky. Daryle Moderator: You should copyright that term D. Emo Funk -Derek On 1/18/08 11:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've seen plenty of *males who like Van Hunt* at his shows. ~*Tameir*~ Moderator: I am sure there are ;-) -Derek - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org
I've seen plenty of *males who like Van Hunt* at his shows. ~*Tameir*~ Moderator: I am sure there are ;-) -Derek -Original Message- From: Lockhart, Daryle [GSM] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 09:53:30 To:npny@lists.panix.com Subject: Re: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org I've listened to both Van Hunt CDs. I really didn't like them. The production was entirely too derivative and the lyrics, after a while, got to be just silly. To me. But it doesn't seem like he's making music for me. I'm sure this will change after I hit send, but I've never met a male who said he liked Van Hunt. The dude has a target audience: women. Considering the fact that women buy more music than men, that's not a bad marketing strategy. What confuses me is how the dude has all this time to sit around and ponder what the internet says about him. Don't people come out to his shows? What difference does it make what people on prince.org say about you if people are coming out and paying to see you perform? Van Hunt seems to be a little too emo to be funky. Which works for his target audience, maybe, but probably do much to GROW his audience. Moderator: Speakin' of growing. My friend Wade suggested I listen a few times. The albums will Grow on me. I don't want something to grow on me. That is called Brainwashing I am already a brained washed Prince fan thanks I will pass on anymore :-D -Derek On 1/18/08 8:56 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is nothing Rick James about that CD, not at all. ~*Tameir*~ Moderator: Listen to Hot Stage Lights total Rick James rip off. The Lenny Kravitz stuff is pretty good, but this guy can't sing so it take away from the song dramatically. He reminds of Andre Cymone in one track -Derek -Original Message- From: Derek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:26:53 To:npny@lists.panix.com Subject: RE: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org Oh Wow! It gets worst! I am listening to the On The Jungle Floor album he is channeling Rick James and Prince it the cheesiest song I ever heard! Oh wow! How do people like this guy?! Phbpt! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of afroTsiac Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 7:52 PM To: npny@lists.panix.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org I adore Van Hunt, and thought his blog was well-written. Tameir Moderator: I listened today didn't care for him. I think he should waste less time worried about the people on Prince.org and spend more them crafting him music. I stand unimpressed at the moment. I all I hear is something ripping on Marvin Gaye -Derek On 1/17/08, Derek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't dude some kind of Vampire slayer or something? Why is he worried about what people say about him on Prince.org? I am confused? Does the guy have a first name like Bob or Timmy? Oh wait his First name is Van? Last Name Hunt? Really? Did his parents not like him? Maybe that was here he was conceived? in a Van? Who cares?! :-) _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of squarepeg72 Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org from his blog: Sunday, January 13, 2008 it's none of your business what other people say about you... Category: Blogging but, I have read my own press. Not all of it. Just enough to not be able to turn back. it's gone to my head. I can remember once going on okayplayer-trying for the 15th time to find some new info on D'angelo's still nascent record-and stumbled across a thread about the Prince comparisons that have been made about ME... some of the comments on there were downright destructive. I never even imagined that you could mix the words p**ssy and musician while stating an opinion:) Some were supportive. Even fewer were constructive or managed to put forth what I would deem accurate analysis. It all made me sick. Because I knew that NOBODY really knew what the f*ck they were talking about. I am neither as perfect as the best that has been said about me nor as mediocre as the worst that's been said. - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org
** Van Hunt doesn't do it for me, and apparently, there are a few people on the internet who agree with me.** Honest opinions/criticism is one thing, but the ugliness on the Org is uncalled for, and downright nasty. No one is saying anyone has to like him. I don't doubt for a minute that the majority of those chiming in over there have hardly even heard his music. T Moderator: My major point is why is he worried about the people on a some Prince board on the internet? Seriously if this happened on Vanhunt.org I would totally understand. Oh wait! Nobody cares enough about him to do that :-D -Derek On 1/18/08, Lockhart, Daryle [GSM] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right. I didn't say there were none, I'm just saying that I haven't met any. I have also never been to a Van Hunt show. And to be honest, I have been to many a show because my wife (or former girlfriend back in the day) was really into some artist and wanted to see him perform. Maxwell and Babyface come immediately to mind. No WAY would I care enough to go see those guys by myself or with a crew of friends. But every time I go to an Omar show, for example, I see a lot of my male friends there. My wife and I both enjoy Omar's music, and we know many people who don't like him. We're all grownups. If you don't like a singer, so what. It's about enjoying the night out. But when it comes to buying a CD, or downloading some tunes, Van Hunt doesn't do it for me, and apparently, there are a few people on the internet who agree with me. Someone, though, thought Van was good enough to sign to Capitol and send an advance check to. This isn't some struggling indie artist that 'needs our support' or anything like that. This is a dude with two albums. Someone thinks Van is good enough to go pay and see. That's all that matters. I think Van's taking himself too seriously, and, again, is too emo to be funky. Daryle Moderator: You should copyright that term D. Emo Funk -Derek On 1/18/08 11:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've seen plenty of *males who like Van Hunt* at his shows. ~*Tameir*~ Moderator: I am sure there are ;-) -Derek - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org
**Moderator: My major point is why is he worried about the people on a some Prince board on the internet?** Post a comment on his blog or email him and ask. T Moderator: I don't know where it is, I didn't even know it was from him blog or that he had a blog till someone mentioned it hear. I actually don't care enough to find out either :-P -Derek On 1/18/08, afroTsiac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ** Van Hunt doesn't do it for me, and apparently, there are a few people on the internet who agree with me.** Honest opinions/criticism is one thing, but the ugliness on the Org is uncalled for, and downright nasty. No one is saying anyone has to like him. I don't doubt for a minute that the majority of those chiming in over there have hardly even heard his music. T Moderator: My major point is why is he worried about the people on a some Prince board on the internet? Seriously if this happened on Vanhunt.org I would totally understand. Oh wait! Nobody cares enough about him to do that :-D -Derek On 1/18/08, Lockhart, Daryle [GSM] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right. I didn't say there were none, I'm just saying that I haven't met any. I have also never been to a Van Hunt show. And to be honest, I have been to many a show because my wife (or former girlfriend back in the day) was really into some artist and wanted to see him perform. Maxwell and Babyface come immediately to mind. No WAY would I care enough to go see those guys by myself or with a crew of friends. But every time I go to an Omar show, for example, I see a lot of my male friends there. My wife and I both enjoy Omar's music, and we know many people who don't like him. We're all grownups. If you don't like a singer, so what. It's about enjoying the night out. But when it comes to buying a CD, or downloading some tunes, Van Hunt doesn't do it for me, and apparently, there are a few people on the internet who agree with me. Someone, though, thought Van was good enough to sign to Capitol and send an advance check to. This isn't some struggling indie artist that 'needs our support' or anything like that. This is a dude with two albums. Someone thinks Van is good enough to go pay and see. That's all that matters. I think Van's taking himself too seriously, and, again, is too emo to be funky. Daryle Moderator: You should copyright that term D. Emo Funk -Derek On 1/18/08 11:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've seen plenty of *males who like Van Hunt* at his shows. ~*Tameir*~ Moderator: I am sure there are ;-) -Derek - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org
Key words, *to you.* ~*Tameir*~ Moderator: Don't you realize I dictate whatever one else hears, feels and beleives? :-P -Derek -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 14:21:27 To:npny@lists.panix.com Subject: Re: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org Maybe silly to you, to each his own. ~*Tameir*~ Moderator: Seriously, what does Van Hunt have vested in Prince.org or any other Prince community that he would be that concerned and write a whole discertation on his blog? It really is silly. -Derek -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:54:56 To:npny@lists.panix.com Subject: Re: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org Geez, the man has got a right to defend himself. ~*Tameir*~ Moderator: againist Prince.org?! Who cares!? Is he going to defend himself against the NPNY Mailing List next? That is just silly LOL -Derek -Original Message- From: Damon Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:27:20 To:npny@lists.panix.com Subject: RE: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org can you say narcissist. was there enough space for him to write with his ego crowding the essay? Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:51:45 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: npny@lists.panix.com Subject: Re: NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I adore Van Hunt, and thought his blog was well-written. Tameir Moderator: I listened today didn't care for him. - NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org - Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny - Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NPNY: RE: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org
Isn't dude some kind of Vampire slayer or something? Why is he worried about what people say about him on Prince.org? I am confused? Does the guy have a first name like Bob or Timmy? Oh wait his First name is Van? Last Name Hunt? Really? Did his parents not like him? Maybe that was here he was conceived? in a Van? Who cares?! :-) _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of squarepeg72 Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LoveSexyDC] Van Hunt responds to the criticism he's received from Prince.org from his blog: Sunday, January 13, 2008 it's none of your business what other people say about you... Category: Blogging but, I have read my own press. Not all of it. Just enough to not be able to turn back. it's gone to my head. I can remember once going on okayplayer-trying for the 15th time to find some new info on D'angelo's still nascent record-and stumbled across a thread about the Prince comparisons that have been made about ME... some of the comments on there were downright destructive. I never even imagined that you could mix the words p**ssy and musician while stating an opinion:) Some were supportive. Even fewer were constructive or managed to put forth what I would deem accurate analysis. It all made me sick. Because I knew that NOBODY really knew what the f*ck they were talking about. I am neither as perfect as the best that has been said about me nor as mediocre as the worst that's been said. It's ironic. Just two nights ago an associate called and asked if HE should go on line and address some false accusations that were made about HIM. I told him, hell naw. Don't even give those fools any energy. That's what they live for...to dismantle people and overcompensate for their personal problems...all from behind a computer screen. And, alas, here I am. Last night I was on the computer with my son. He likes to look up biographical information on the 43 presidents. (And to think, at 5 years old, all I wanted to do was the 'robot'). After he'd his fill he asked if I would google Van Hunt's Son. I pondered his reasoning and the potential for damage that I was ignoring. I was reluctant when I said, . . .o. . .k... I pressed enter. and right there, at the top of the page was a heading, Van Hunt is Prince's Son. This time it was Prince.org. Oh, Jesus I whispered. I had to have it. Double Click. I read the first line, there aint sh*t about Van Hunt that's genius. Or something to that effect. My son reads almost as fast as i do. But, I caught him before he got to the curse words. I said go play. He started to challenge the order. I put on my transformer face. He found a toy. I read on. Of course, everyone on the thread was a Prince fan (so am i). But, to my surprise, this time I emerged from the comments without any long- term scarring. Some people didn't know enough about me to form an opinion. Some people knew enough to be enthusiastically supportive and encouraging of my work. Some were, obviously, musically inclined on top of being Prince fans. Some didn't give a damn. The debate seemed to be fueled by the bodyguarding of Prince's legacy and about the question of whether or not I was a good musician. They mentioned other musicians who would supposedly wipe the floor with me (even 10 year old musicians). What they don't realize is that I've played guitar with, for and beside most of their heroes. And, I doubt that any of those musicians would say that I couldn't hold my own. What they don't know is that guitar isn't even my first instrument. Piano is. What they don't know is I never set out to make improvisational solo records. I fast forward through Prince's guitar solos. not because they're not good. i'm just more interested in other aspects of his work (like the writing and the arrangements). As a matter of fact I would be more likely to listen to Thelonious Monk play one of his tinkly excursions than I would Art Tatum. Charlie Parker could MAKE you hear modal scales in fourths-using major minor 11ths and do it before you notice that Mccoy Tyner or Oscar Peterson didn't even have his hands on the keys. but, i put my money on Johnny Hodges. slow notes by the most beautiful horn tone in the business. Ask me who's the better singer, Sam Cooke or Muddy Waters, and I'll say, obviously, Sam Cooke. But, ask me who I prefer to listen to and, well... Muddy is my man! And, if u listened to Sly's 'there's a riot goin on' you would not walk away from that record claiming that George Benson or Herbie Hancock need be worried about claims on their Godliness. But, it's MY favorite record. What they don't know is that 'their man', while he is an incredible talent and entertainer, he WILLED his biggest hits into being. Because he HAD to be a star. (IF) he no longer writes great songs it's only because being a great songwriter was never his goal. Being relevant was/is. Prince
