[NSWolves]
What is happening at Molineux? Mick McCarthy By Simon Garner February 16 2009 Going into the New Year, Wolves were sitting pretty at the top of the Championship table, scoring goals and winning games. The feeling around the Club and the Fans (well most!) was of Premiership Football next Season. What the hell has happened since then? Now I am usually an optimist, always looking to the positives or looking through Wolves Tinted Specs if you will. I am now starting to think however that a few fans on this board are right, Mick has lost it and the team do not seem to know where the next win will come from. Let's take the performance at Burnley; one word Pathetic. The team looked totally inept, seemed to be lacking on confidence and generally, to me, didn't seem interested. To put it mildly it looks a completely different team that was playing well in the early part of the season. What is the reason for this? In my opinion it is because Mick McCarthy is playing a few of his favoured players, for example Michael Kightly, who, let's face is is completely out of form. Why not give Kyel Reid a run out? Jarvis on the right, Reid on the left (as I am not sure if Reid can play on the right!) Another player who looks like he couldn't catch a cold is Wayne Hennessey. He looks like he either has no confidence or that he just doesn't care. Maybe it is the case he will be in the Premiership next season with Wolves or without so in his eyes where is the insentive to try? I am not saying that this is the case, it could be and more likely is the case that our goal keeping coach Pat Mountain is not up the to job. Hopefully in the next couple of week Carl Ikeme will be back and will get a run in the team. Another problem is the defence. When was the last time we kept a clean sheet? I cannot remember the last time we actually kept the ball out of our net (hopefully someone will be able to advise on this.) If we are not keeping clean sheets, this is putting a huge amount of pressure on the strikers to get a minimum of 2-3 goals a game, in some cases just to get a point! (the Norwich game springs to mind.) After spending £2.5 million on Christophe Berra even he seems to be lacking in confidence, and from what I have seen he has no pace. Coupled with that he should have scored against Burnely and maybe against Coventry, which would have got us another 2 points in the push for promotion. Should Neill Collins be given a run out? How much a kick in the gentlemans area would that be to myself and other fans who have called for his head? You might think I am worrying for nothing as we are still top, and even if Reading and Birmingham win their games in hand we will be 2nd, although only on goal difference from Birmingham. Hopefully we can get back to winning ways against Cardiff, but seeing as they are in form, I honestly can't see this. I hope I am wrong and we do still go up, but at the moment I cannot see it. Onwards and Upwards (I hope!) Marcus Chantry -- Associate Director New Product Development - Insurance Macquarie Life (d) 02 8232 4259 (m) 0448 887 627 P Please consider the environment before printing this email. Important Notice This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may contain copyright material of Macquarie or any of its subsidiaries or third parties. If you are not the intended recipient of this email you should not read, print, re-transmit, store or act in reliance on this e-mail or any attachments, and should destroy all copies of them. Macquarie does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or any attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Macquarie. The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way and should destroy any copies. Macquarie does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Macquarie. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Pig's pudding - it's a mon's dinner aer kid -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- 77915_215_136 Description: 77915_215_136
[NSWolves] Where are you Steve?
Where are you Steve? We are missing your optimism during this dire period of form. We need answers to what is going on. How did your investigations go into the clumpiness of MM? Are we about to see a reversal of form? Sent: Monday, 9 February 2009 4:08 On Behalf Of Steven Millward I still think we are the first or second best team in the league. Better than Brum but perhaps not better than Reading I have faith that we'll average out over the season at a high enough level to get promoted. I'm wondering if Mick is indeed statistically more clumpy as a Wolves manager or we just despair about poor runs of form. I might investigate. The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way and should destroy any copies. Macquarie does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Macquarie. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Pig's pudding - it's a mon's dinner aer kid -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve?
We have a good chance of getting promoted. We are, I still believe, one of the best two teams in the division. On balance so far, we are *the* best team as we have scored the most points. If these last nine matches had been interspersed amongst the other games, we'd still be where we are, it's just that we wouldn't have convinced ourselves that we were going up without any difficulty. We might have been intermittently swapping places with Brum and Reading over the last four months. If that had happened we'd be very happy being top by now, and clear of third place. There is a lot of sceintific evidence that a person's long term average happiness cannot really be moved, even for people that are supremely successful or make a lot of money. Therefore, all happiness is measured relative to that long term average. I think in the case of football, the long term average is measured against the current season, and the season before. Being only a couple of points clear is worse than being seven points clear, so we are unhappy. If we had been seventh in the league two months ago, we'd be delighted with our position, wouldn't we? So just relax. It does however, seem to be a fact that wherever we are in the table you're never happy. If we were promoted by now, you'd be moaning that we had no chance of staying up. The key is to be grateful for where we are in the league, rather than being sad about where we could have been There are people who see the glass half empty, people who see it half full, and you, who sees it smashed on the floor with the contents making a permanent stain on the carpet and an enduring fear of getting shards of glass in your feet when you walk over it. And what a waste of money it was smashing the glass. Oh my! 2009/2/17 Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.com Where are you Steve? We are missing your optimism during this dire period of form. We need answers to what is going on. How did your investigations go into the clumpiness of MM? Are we about to see a reversal of form? -- *Sent:* Monday, 9 February 2009 4:08 *On Behalf Of *Steven Millward I still think we are the first or second best team in the league. Better than Brum but perhaps not better than Reading I have faith that we'll average out over the season at a high enough level to get promoted. I'm wondering if Mick is indeed statistically more clumpy as a Wolves manager or we just despair about poor runs of form. I might investigate. The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way and should destroy any copies. Macquarie does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Macquarie. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Pig's pudding - it's a mon's dinner aer kid -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified]
On balance I'd say we are now one of the worst teams, we need to take into account that most of our points were accumulated in the first half of the season. Our recent form indicates that we are now bottom half of the table material and on a rapid decline. On current form we may just sneak into the playoffs, and what an anti climax that will be. Yes I've read the bit about our last nine games and if the results were spread out over the rest of the season...blah blah blah, that's just people (MM in particular) trying to lighten things. Its going to be a roller coaster finish, with the lead we had, it really shouldn't be. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 13:52 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? We have a good chance of getting promoted. We are, I still believe, one of the best two teams in the division. On balance so far, we are the best team as we have scored the most points. If these last nine matches had been interspersed amongst the other games, we'd still be where we are, it's just that we wouldn't have convinced ourselves that we were going up without any difficulty. We might have been intermittently swapping places with Brum and Reading over the last four months. If that had happened we'd be very happy being top by now, and clear of third place. There is a lot of sceintific evidence that a person's long term average happiness cannot really be moved, even for people that are supremely successful or make a lot of money. Therefore, all happiness is measured relative to that long term average. I think in the case of football, the long term average is measured against the current season, and the season before. Being only a couple of points clear is worse than being seven points clear, so we are unhappy. If we had been seventh in the league two months ago, we'd be delighted with our position, wouldn't we? So just relax. It does however, seem to be a fact that wherever we are in the table you're never happy. If we were promoted by now, you'd be moaning that we had no chance of staying up. The key is to be grateful for where we are in the league, rather than being sad about where we could have been There are people who see the glass half empty, people who see it half full, and you, who sees it smashed on the floor with the contents making a permanent stain on the carpet and an enduring fear of getting shards of glass in your feet when you walk over it. And what a waste of money it was smashing the glass. Oh my! 2009/2/17 Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.com Where are you Steve? We are missing your optimism during this dire period of form. We need answers to what is going on. How did your investigations go into the clumpiness of MM? Are we about to see a reversal of form? Sent: Monday, 9 February 2009 4:08 On Behalf Of Steven Millward I still think we are the first or second best team in the league. Better than Brum but perhaps not better than Reading I have faith that we'll average out over the season at a high enough level to get promoted. I'm wondering if Mick is indeed statistically more clumpy as a Wolves manager or we just despair about poor runs of form. I might investigate. The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way and should destroy any copies. Macquarie does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Macquarie. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Pig's pudding - it's a mon's dinner aer kid -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve?
on the contrary my dear Watson, I have never once said that I am unhappy. In fact, 99% of the time I am very happy with everything that happens in my life including everything Wolves related. I simply choose to express my views at any given point in time in a way that is untainted by either pessimism or optimism. If I think the team are playing rubbish then I say so regardless of past form; If the team are playing well then I say so regardless of past form; If I feel that the manager is demonstrating incompetence then I say so regardless of past achievements; If the manager makes a great signing then I say so regardless of past failures; It is a valuable asset to be able to remain uninfluenced no matter what is going on around me so I don't think it is fair classify myself as a glass half-full or a glass half-empty kind of person; I prefer to be branded realist. At the moment, we are rubbish - that's a fact. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 2:52 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? We have a good chance of getting promoted. We are, I still believe, one of the best two teams in the division. On balance so far, we are the best team as we have scored the most points. If these last nine matches had been interspersed amongst the other games, we'd still be where we are, it's just that we wouldn't have convinced ourselves that we were going up without any difficulty. We might have been intermittently swapping places with Brum and Reading over the last four months. If that had happened we'd be very happy being top by now, and clear of third place. There is a lot of sceintific evidence that a person's long term average happiness cannot really be moved, even for people that are supremely successful or make a lot of money. Therefore, all happiness is measured relative to that long term average. I think in the case of football, the long term average is measured against the current season, and the season before. Being only a couple of points clear is worse than being seven points clear, so we are unhappy. If we had been seventh in the league two months ago, we'd be delighted with our position, wouldn't we? So just relax. It does however, seem to be a fact that wherever we are in the table you're never happy. If we were promoted by now, you'd be moaning that we had no chance of staying up. The key is to be grateful for where we are in the league, rather than being sad about where we could have been There are people who see the glass half empty, people who see it half full, and you, who sees it smashed on the floor with the contents making a permanent stain on the carpet and an enduring fear of getting shards of glass in your feet when you walk over it. And what a waste of money it was smashing the glass. Oh my! 2009/2/17 Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.com Where are you Steve? We are missing your optimism during this dire period of form. We need answers to what is going on. How did your investigations go into the clumpiness of MM? Are we about to see a reversal of form? Sent: Monday, 9 February 2009 4:08 On Behalf Of Steven Millward I still think we are the first or second best team in the league. Better than Brum but perhaps not better than Reading I have faith that we'll average out over the season at a high enough level to get promoted. I'm wondering if Mick is indeed statistically more clumpy as a Wolves manager or we just despair about poor runs of form. I might investigate. The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way and should destroy any copies. Macquarie does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Macquarie. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Pig's pudding - it's a mon's dinner aer kid -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified]
We are third from bottom in current form based upon the last 8 games! From: Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.au To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 17 February, 2009 2:08:58 PM Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] On balance I'd say we are now one of the worst teams, we need to take into account that most of our points were accumulated in the first half of the season. Our recent form indicates that we are now bottom half of the table material and on a rapid decline. On current form we may just sneak into the playoffs, and what an anti climax that will be. Yes I've read the bit about our last nine games and if the results were spread out over the rest of the season...blah blah blah, that's just people (MM in particular) trying to lighten things. Its going to be a roller coaster finish, with the lead we had, it really shouldn't be. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 13:52 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? We have a good chance of getting promoted. We are, I still believe, one of the best two teams in the division. On balance so far, we are the best team as we have scored the most points. If these last nine matches had been interspersed amongst the other games, we'd still be where we are, it's just that we wouldn't have convinced ourselves that we were going up without any difficulty. We might have been intermittently swapping places with Brum and Reading over the last four months. If that had happened we'd be very happy being top by now, and clear of third place. There is a lot of sceintific evidence that a person's long term average happiness cannot really be moved, even for people that are supremely successful or make a lot of money. Therefore, all happiness is measured relative to that long term average. I think in the case of football, the long term average is measured against the current season, and the season before. Being only a couple of points clear is worse than being seven points clear, so we are unhappy. If we had been seventh in the league two months ago, we'd be delighted with our position, wouldn't we? So just relax. It does however, seem to be a fact that wherever we are in the table you're never happy. If we were promoted by now, you'd be moaning that we had no chance of staying up. The key is to be grateful for where we are in the league, rather than being sad about where we could have been There are people who see the glass half empty, people who see it half full, and you, who sees it smashed on the floor with the contents making a permanent stain on the carpet and an enduring fear of getting shards of glass in your feet when you walk over it. And what a waste of money it was smashing the glass. Oh my! 2009/2/17 Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.com Where are you Steve? We are missing your optimism during this dire period of form. We need answers to what is going on. How did your investigations go into the clumpiness of MM? Are we about to see a reversal of form? Sent: Monday, 9 February 2009 4:08 On Behalf Of Steven Millward I still think we are the first or second best team in the league. Better than Brum but perhaps not better than Reading I have faith that we'll average out over the season at a high enough level to get promoted. I'm wondering if Mick is indeed statistically more clumpy as a Wolves manager or we just despair about poor runs of form. I might investigate. The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way and should destroy any copies. Macquarie does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Macquarie. Make Yahoo!7 your homepage and win a trip to the Quiksilver Pro. Find out more --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Pig's pudding - it's a mon's dinner aer kid -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified]
On balance we're the best team in the league - hence us currently being top. On current form we're not and the balance is certainly tipping but its not time to throw in the towel. We'll go up. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Morris, Lee SGT Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 3:09 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] On balance I'd say we are now one of the worst teams, we need to take into account that most of our points were accumulated in the first half of the season. Our recent form indicates that we are now bottom half of the table material and on a rapid decline. On current form we may just sneak into the playoffs, and what an anti climax that will be. Yes I've read the bit about our last nine games and if the results were spread out over the rest of the season...blah blah blah, that's just people (MM in particular) trying to lighten things. Its going to be a roller coaster finish, with the lead we had, it really shouldn't be. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 13:52 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? We have a good chance of getting promoted. We are, I still believe, one of the best two teams in the division. On balance so far, we are the best team as we have scored the most points. If these last nine matches had been interspersed amongst the other games, we'd still be where we are, it's just that we wouldn't have convinced ourselves that we were going up without any difficulty. We might have been intermittently swapping places with Brum and Reading over the last four months. If that had happened we'd be very happy being top by now, and clear of third place. There is a lot of sceintific evidence that a person's long term average happiness cannot really be moved, even for people that are supremely successful or make a lot of money. Therefore, all happiness is measured relative to that long term average. I think in the case of football, the long term average is measured against the current season, and the season before. Being only a couple of points clear is worse than being seven points clear, so we are unhappy. If we had been seventh in the league two months ago, we'd be delighted with our position, wouldn't we? So just relax. It does however, seem to be a fact that wherever we are in the table you're never happy. If we were promoted by now, you'd be moaning that we had no chance of staying up. The key is to be grateful for where we are in the league, rather than being sad about where we could have been There are people who see the glass half empty, people who see it half full, and you, who sees it smashed on the floor with the contents making a permanent stain on the carpet and an enduring fear of getting shards of glass in your feet when you walk over it. And what a waste of money it was smashing the glass. Oh my! 2009/2/17 Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.commailto:marcus.chan...@macquarie.com Where are you Steve? We are missing your optimism during this dire period of form. We need answers to what is going on. How did your investigations go into the clumpiness of MM? Are we about to see a reversal of form? Sent: Monday, 9 February 2009 4:08 On Behalf Of Steven Millward I still think we are the first or second best team in the league. Better than Brum but perhaps not better than Reading I have faith that we'll average out over the season at a high enough level to get promoted. I'm wondering if Mick is indeed statistically more clumpy as a Wolves manager or we just despair about poor runs of form. I might investigate. The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way and should destroy any copies. Macquarie does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Macquarie. Before printing, please consider the environment. IMPORTANT NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachment to it are intended only to be read or used by the named addressee. It is confidential and may contain legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistaken transmission to you. The RTA is not responsible for any unauthorised alterations to this e-mail or attachment to it. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of the RTA. If you receive this e-mail in error, please immediately delete it from your system and notify the sender. You must not disclose, copy or use any part of this
[NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified]
Points in the bag are what dictate your league position. Nobody gets promoted or relegated at the end of the season based on the 'current form table'. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Chantry Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 4:16 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] Isn't it strange how earlier in the season when we were doing well almost everyone on this list was make predictions about where we would finish if we maintained the current form of averaging X points per game. But now that we're not doing so well, some people have tried to change the focus to look at the points that we have in the bank saying that everything is rosy because we have X points in the bag (mainly accumulated earlier in the season) and are ignoring the current form (ie average points per game) which was such an important harbinger only 2 months ago. Why is that so? From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nick Curtis Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 3:45 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] We are third from bottom in current form based upon the last 8 games! From: Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.au To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 17 February, 2009 2:08:58 PM Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] On balance I'd say we are now one of the worst teams, we need to take into account that most of our points were accumulated in the first half of the season. Our recent form indicates that we are now bottom half of the table material and on a rapid decline. On current form we may just sneak into the playoffs, and what an anti climax that will be. Yes I've read the bit about our last nine games and if the results were spread out over the rest of the season...blah blah blah, that's just people (MM in particular) trying to lighten things. Its going to be a roller coaster finish, with the lead we had, it really shouldn't be. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 13:52 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? We have a good chance of getting promoted. We are, I still believe, one of the best two teams in the division. On balance so far, we are the best team as we have scored the most points. If these last nine matches had been interspersed amongst the other games, we'd still be where we are, it's just that we wouldn't have convinced ourselves that we were going up without any difficulty. We might have been intermittently swapping places with Brum and Reading over the last four months. If that had happened we'd be very happy being top by now, and clear of third place. There is a lot of sceintific evidence that a person's long term average happiness cannot really be moved, even for people that are supremely successful or make a lot of money. Therefore, all happiness is measured relative to that long term average. I think in the case of football, the long term average is measured against the current season, and the season before. Being only a couple of points clear is worse than being seven points clear, so we are unhappy. If we had been seventh in the league two months ago, we'd be delighted with our position, wouldn't we? So just relax. It does however, seem to be a fact that wherever we are in the table you're never happy. If we were promoted by now, you'd be moaning that we had no chance of staying up. The key is to be grateful for where we are in the league, rather than being sad about where we could have been There are people who see the glass half empty, people who see it half full, and you, who sees it smashed on the floor with the contents making a permanent stain on the carpet and an enduring fear of getting shards of glass in your feet when you walk over it. And what a waste of money it was smashing the glass. Oh my! 2009/2/17 Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.commailto:marcus.chan...@macquarie.com Where are you Steve? We are missing your optimism during this dire period of form. We need answers to what is going on. How did your investigations go into the clumpiness of MM? Are we about to see a reversal of form? Sent: Monday, 9 February 2009 4:08 On Behalf Of Steven Millward I still think we are the first or second best team in the league. Better than Brum but perhaps not better than Reading I have faith that we'll average out over the season at a high enough level to get promoted. I'm wondering if Mick is indeed statistically more clumpy as a Wolves manager or we just despair about poor runs of form. I might
[NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified]
Exactly, but our points in the bag won't be enough if we carry on the way we are going. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LEESE Matthew Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 15:22 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] Points in the bag are what dictate your league position. Nobody gets promoted or relegated at the end of the season based on the 'current form table'. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Chantry Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 4:16 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] Isn't it strange how earlier in the season when we were doing well almost everyone on this list was make predictions about where we would finish if we maintained the current form of averaging X points per game. But now that we're not doing so well, some people have tried to change the focus to look at the points that we have in the bank saying that everything is rosy because we have X points in the bag (mainly accumulated earlier in the season) and are ignoring the current form (ie average points per game) which was such an important harbinger only 2 months ago. Why is that so? From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nick Curtis Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 3:45 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] We are third from bottom in current form based upon the last 8 games! From: Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.au To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 17 February, 2009 2:08:58 PM Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] On balance I'd say we are now one of the worst teams, we need to take into account that most of our points were accumulated in the first half of the season. Our recent form indicates that we are now bottom half of the table material and on a rapid decline. On current form we may just sneak into the playoffs, and what an anti climax that will be. Yes I've read the bit about our last nine games and if the results were spread out over the rest of the season...blah blah blah, that's just people (MM in particular) trying to lighten things. Its going to be a roller coaster finish, with the lead we had, it really shouldn't be. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 13:52 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? We have a good chance of getting promoted. We are, I still believe, one of the best two teams in the division. On balance so far, we are the best team as we have scored the most points. If these last nine matches had been interspersed amongst the other games, we'd still be where we are, it's just that we wouldn't have convinced ourselves that we were going up without any difficulty. We might have been intermittently swapping places with Brum and Reading over the last four months. If that had happened we'd be very happy being top by now, and clear of third place. There is a lot of sceintific evidence that a person's long term average happiness cannot really be moved, even for people that are supremely successful or make a lot of money. Therefore, all happiness is measured relative to that long term average. I think in the case of football, the long term average is measured against the current season, and the season before. Being only a couple of points clear is worse than being seven points clear, so we are unhappy. If we had been seventh in the league two months ago, we'd be delighted with our position, wouldn't we? So just relax. It does however, seem to be a fact that wherever we are in the table you're never happy. If we were promoted by now, you'd be moaning that we had no chance of staying up. The key is to be grateful for where we are in the league, rather than being sad about where we could have been There are people who see the glass half empty, people who see it half full, and you, who sees it smashed on the floor with the contents making a permanent stain on the carpet and an enduring fear of getting shards of glass in your feet when you walk over it. And what a waste of money it was smashing the glass. Oh my! 2009/2/17 Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.com Where are you Steve? We are missing your optimism during this dire period of form. We need answers to what is going on. How did your investigations go into the clumpiness of MM? Are we about to see a reversal of form? Sent: Monday, 9 February 2009 4:08 On Behalf Of Steven Millward I still
[NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified]
Depends on how many points the other teams stash in their respective bags. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Morris, Lee SGT Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 4:25 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] Exactly, but our points in the bag won't be enough if we carry on the way we are going. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LEESE Matthew Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 15:22 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] Points in the bag are what dictate your league position. Nobody gets promoted or relegated at the end of the season based on the 'current form table'. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Chantry Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 4:16 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] Isn't it strange how earlier in the season when we were doing well almost everyone on this list was make predictions about where we would finish if we maintained the current form of averaging X points per game. But now that we're not doing so well, some people have tried to change the focus to look at the points that we have in the bank saying that everything is rosy because we have X points in the bag (mainly accumulated earlier in the season) and are ignoring the current form (ie average points per game) which was such an important harbinger only 2 months ago. Why is that so? From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nick Curtis Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 3:45 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] We are third from bottom in current form based upon the last 8 games! From: Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.au To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 17 February, 2009 2:08:58 PM Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] On balance I'd say we are now one of the worst teams, we need to take into account that most of our points were accumulated in the first half of the season. Our recent form indicates that we are now bottom half of the table material and on a rapid decline. On current form we may just sneak into the playoffs, and what an anti climax that will be. Yes I've read the bit about our last nine games and if the results were spread out over the rest of the season...blah blah blah, that's just people (MM in particular) trying to lighten things. Its going to be a roller coaster finish, with the lead we had, it really shouldn't be. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 13:52 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? We have a good chance of getting promoted. We are, I still believe, one of the best two teams in the division. On balance so far, we are the best team as we have scored the most points. If these last nine matches had been interspersed amongst the other games, we'd still be where we are, it's just that we wouldn't have convinced ourselves that we were going up without any difficulty. We might have been intermittently swapping places with Brum and Reading over the last four months. If that had happened we'd be very happy being top by now, and clear of third place. There is a lot of sceintific evidence that a person's long term average happiness cannot really be moved, even for people that are supremely successful or make a lot of money. Therefore, all happiness is measured relative to that long term average. I think in the case of football, the long term average is measured against the current season, and the season before. Being only a couple of points clear is worse than being seven points clear, so we are unhappy. If we had been seventh in the league two months ago, we'd be delighted with our position, wouldn't we? So just relax. It does however, seem to be a fact that wherever we are in the table you're never happy. If we were promoted by now, you'd be moaning that we had no chance of staying up. The key is to be grateful for where we are in the league, rather than being sad about where we could have been There are people who see the glass half empty, people who see it half full, and you, who sees it smashed on the floor with the contents making a permanent stain on the carpet and an enduring fear of getting shards of glass in your feet when you walk over it. And what a waste of money it was smashing the glass. Oh my! 2009/2/17 Marcus Chantry
[NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified]
unfortunately our points in the bag hasn't changed much in 9 games, so if points in the bad are all the matter I think it's safe to say that our 63 points isn't going to be enough to get us promoted or make the play-offs, but we won't be relegated. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LEESE Matthew Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 4:22 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] Points in the bag are what dictate your league position. Nobody gets promoted or relegated at the end of the season based on the 'current form table'. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Chantry Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 4:16 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] Isn't it strange how earlier in the season when we were doing well almost everyone on this list was make predictions about where we would finish if we maintained the current form of averaging X points per game. But now that we're not doing so well, some people have tried to change the focus to look at the points that we have in the bank saying that everything is rosy because we have X points in the bag (mainly accumulated earlier in the season) and are ignoring the current form (ie average points per game) which was such an important harbinger only 2 months ago. Why is that so? From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nick Curtis Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 3:45 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] We are third from bottom in current form based upon the last 8 games! From: Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.au To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 17 February, 2009 2:08:58 PM Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] On balance I'd say we are now one of the worst teams, we need to take into account that most of our points were accumulated in the first half of the season. Our recent form indicates that we are now bottom half of the table material and on a rapid decline. On current form we may just sneak into the playoffs, and what an anti climax that will be. Yes I've read the bit about our last nine games and if the results were spread out over the rest of the season...blah blah blah, that's just people (MM in particular) trying to lighten things. Its going to be a roller coaster finish, with the lead we had, it really shouldn't be. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 13:52 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? We have a good chance of getting promoted. We are, I still believe, one of the best two teams in the division. On balance so far, we are the best team as we have scored the most points. If these last nine matches had been interspersed amongst the other games, we'd still be where we are, it's just that we wouldn't have convinced ourselves that we were going up without any difficulty. We might have been intermittently swapping places with Brum and Reading over the last four months. If that had happened we'd be very happy being top by now, and clear of third place. There is a lot of sceintific evidence that a person's long term average happiness cannot really be moved, even for people that are supremely successful or make a lot of money. Therefore, all happiness is measured relative to that long term average. I think in the case of football, the long term average is measured against the current season, and the season before. Being only a couple of points clear is worse than being seven points clear, so we are unhappy. If we had been seventh in the league two months ago, we'd be delighted with our position, wouldn't we? So just relax. It does however, seem to be a fact that wherever we are in the table you're never happy. If we were promoted by now, you'd be moaning that we had no chance of staying up. The key is to be grateful for where we are in the league, rather than being sad about where we could have been There are people who see the glass half empty, people who see it half full, and you, who sees it smashed on the floor with the contents making a permanent stain on the carpet and an enduring fear of getting shards of glass in your feet when you walk over it. And what a waste of money it was smashing the glass. Oh my! 2009/2/17 Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.com Where are you Steve? We are missing your optimism during this dire period of form. We need answers to what is going on. How did your investigations go into the clumpiness of MM? Are we about to see a
[NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified]
I will guarantee it won't be enough on current form, at least two teams will overhaul us. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LEESE Matthew Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 15:26 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] Depends on how many points the other teams stash in their respective bags. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Morris, Lee SGT Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 4:25 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] Exactly, but our points in the bag won't be enough if we carry on the way we are going. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LEESE Matthew Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 15:22 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] Points in the bag are what dictate your league position. Nobody gets promoted or relegated at the end of the season based on the 'current form table'. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Chantry Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 4:16 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] Isn't it strange how earlier in the season when we were doing well almost everyone on this list was make predictions about where we would finish if we maintained the current form of averaging X points per game. But now that we're not doing so well, some people have tried to change the focus to look at the points that we have in the bank saying that everything is rosy because we have X points in the bag (mainly accumulated earlier in the season) and are ignoring the current form (ie average points per game) which was such an important harbinger only 2 months ago. Why is that so? From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nick Curtis Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 3:45 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] We are third from bottom in current form based upon the last 8 games! From: Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.au To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 17 February, 2009 2:08:58 PM Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] On balance I'd say we are now one of the worst teams, we need to take into account that most of our points were accumulated in the first half of the season. Our recent form indicates that we are now bottom half of the table material and on a rapid decline. On current form we may just sneak into the playoffs, and what an anti climax that will be. Yes I've read the bit about our last nine games and if the results were spread out over the rest of the season...blah blah blah, that's just people (MM in particular) trying to lighten things. Its going to be a roller coaster finish, with the lead we had, it really shouldn't be. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 13:52 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? We have a good chance of getting promoted. We are, I still believe, one of the best two teams in the division. On balance so far, we are the best team as we have scored the most points. If these last nine matches had been interspersed amongst the other games, we'd still be where we are, it's just that we wouldn't have convinced ourselves that we were going up without any difficulty. We might have been intermittently swapping places with Brum and Reading over the last four months. If that had happened we'd be very happy being top by now, and clear of third place. There is a lot of sceintific evidence that a person's long term average happiness cannot really be moved, even for people that are supremely successful or make a lot of money. Therefore, all happiness is measured relative to that long term average. I think in the case of football, the long term average is measured against the current season, and the season before. Being only a couple of points clear is worse than being seven points clear, so we are unhappy. If we had been seventh in the league two months ago, we'd be delighted with our position, wouldn't we? So just relax. It does however, seem to be a fact that wherever we are in the table you're never happy. If we were promoted by now, you'd be moaning that we had no chance of staying up. The key is to be grateful for where we are in the league, rather than being sad about where we could have been There are people who see the glass half empty, people who see
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Depends on the definition of current form. Current/latest result - you're right, current season - we're up, somewhere in between - who knows? From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Morris, Lee SGT Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 4:28 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] I will guarantee it won't be enough on current form, at least two teams will overhaul us. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LEESE Matthew Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 15:26 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] Depends on how many points the other teams stash in their respective bags. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Morris, Lee SGT Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 4:25 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] Exactly, but our points in the bag won't be enough if we carry on the way we are going. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LEESE Matthew Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 15:22 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] Points in the bag are what dictate your league position. Nobody gets promoted or relegated at the end of the season based on the 'current form table'. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Chantry Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 4:16 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] Isn't it strange how earlier in the season when we were doing well almost everyone on this list was make predictions about where we would finish if we maintained the current form of averaging X points per game. But now that we're not doing so well, some people have tried to change the focus to look at the points that we have in the bank saying that everything is rosy because we have X points in the bag (mainly accumulated earlier in the season) and are ignoring the current form (ie average points per game) which was such an important harbinger only 2 months ago. Why is that so? From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nick Curtis Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 3:45 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] We are third from bottom in current form based upon the last 8 games! From: Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.au To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 17 February, 2009 2:08:58 PM Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] On balance I'd say we are now one of the worst teams, we need to take into account that most of our points were accumulated in the first half of the season. Our recent form indicates that we are now bottom half of the table material and on a rapid decline. On current form we may just sneak into the playoffs, and what an anti climax that will be. Yes I've read the bit about our last nine games and if the results were spread out over the rest of the season...blah blah blah, that's just people (MM in particular) trying to lighten things. Its going to be a roller coaster finish, with the lead we had, it really shouldn't be. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 13:52 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? We have a good chance of getting promoted. We are, I still believe, one of the best two teams in the division. On balance so far, we are the best team as we have scored the most points. If these last nine matches had been interspersed amongst the other games, we'd still be where we are, it's just that we wouldn't have convinced ourselves that we were going up without any difficulty. We might have been intermittently swapping places with Brum and Reading over the last four months. If that had happened we'd be very happy being top by now, and clear of third place. There is a lot of sceintific evidence that a person's long term average happiness cannot really be moved, even for people that are supremely successful or make a lot of money. Therefore, all happiness is measured relative to that long term average. I think in the case of football, the long term average is measured against the current season, and the season before. Being only a couple of points clear is worse than being seven points clear, so we are unhappy. If we had been seventh in the league two months
[NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified]
Picking at straws. Fact is we need a massive turnaround in form (based on the last two months which is enough to base form on) to pull it off. If we didn't have points in the bag from our great first half of the season god knows where we'd be, because we have been very very poor since the half way mark. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LEESE Matthew Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 15:32 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] Depends on the definition of current form. Current/latest result - you're right, current season - we're up, somewhere in between - who knows? From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Morris, Lee SGT Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 4:28 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] I will guarantee it won't be enough on current form, at least two teams will overhaul us. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LEESE Matthew Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 15:26 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] Depends on how many points the other teams stash in their respective bags. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Morris, Lee SGT Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 4:25 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] Exactly, but our points in the bag won't be enough if we carry on the way we are going. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LEESE Matthew Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 15:22 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] Points in the bag are what dictate your league position. Nobody gets promoted or relegated at the end of the season based on the 'current form table'. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Chantry Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 4:16 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] Isn't it strange how earlier in the season when we were doing well almost everyone on this list was make predictions about where we would finish if we maintained the current form of averaging X points per game. But now that we're not doing so well, some people have tried to change the focus to look at the points that we have in the bank saying that everything is rosy because we have X points in the bag (mainly accumulated earlier in the season) and are ignoring the current form (ie average points per game) which was such an important harbinger only 2 months ago. Why is that so? From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nick Curtis Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 3:45 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] We are third from bottom in current form based upon the last 8 games! From: Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.au To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 17 February, 2009 2:08:58 PM Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] On balance I'd say we are now one of the worst teams, we need to take into account that most of our points were accumulated in the first half of the season. Our recent form indicates that we are now bottom half of the table material and on a rapid decline. On current form we may just sneak into the playoffs, and what an anti climax that will be. Yes I've read the bit about our last nine games and if the results were spread out over the rest of the season...blah blah blah, that's just people (MM in particular) trying to lighten things. Its going to be a roller coaster finish, with the lead we had, it really shouldn't be. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 13:52 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? We have a good chance of getting promoted. We are, I still believe, one of the best two teams in the division. On balance so far, we are the best team as we have scored the most points. If these last nine matches had been interspersed amongst the other games, we'd still be where we are, it's just that we wouldn't have convinced ourselves that we were going up without any difficulty. We might have been intermittently swapping places with Brum and Reading over the last four months. If that had happened we'd be very happy
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Specious reasoning. Wolves are top of the table on both points scored and points per game. It's a FACT. I am happy to stick with points per game if you prefer. Based on the whole season, we are the best team. At the end of the season, the team with the most points per game will win the league. People have only ever quoted where we will be at the end of the season. I can't recall anyone picking current form after a seven win streak and saying if we win all our games we'll have 130 points etc. (except maybe Elliot's dad). The predictions that were being made were projections based on games played so far. Can you suggest an alternative method? We are on track for 87 points, which given the fall off in our competitors performance would most likely be enough to win the league You descibe current form as average points per game. Over what period is that to be defined? It seems that it's defined as the period covering the games we have recently lost. It therefore serves your point. That's fine if you are certain that current form will be maintained to the end of the season but for the same reason that nobody made a forecast based on current form comprising the seven game winning streak, thre's no reason to think our form won't improve. This brings me back to my original point. When Wolves are playing well, you expect their form to turn bad. When Wolves are playing bad you expect their form to stay bad. 2009/2/17 Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.com Isn't it strange how earlier in the season when we were doing well almost everyone on this list was make predictions about where we would finish if we maintained the current form of averaging X points per game. But now that we're not doing so well, *some* people have tried to change the focus to look at the points that we have in the bank saying that everything is rosy because we have X points in the bag (mainly accumulated earlier in the season) and are ignoring the current form (ie average points per game) which was such an important harbinger only 2 months ago. Why is that so? -- *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Nick Curtis *Sent:* Tuesday, 17 February 2009 3:45 PM *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] We are third from bottom in current form based upon the last 8 games! -- *From:* Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.au *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, 17 February, 2009 2:08:58 PM *Subject:* [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] On balance I'd say we are now one of the worst teams, we need to take into account that most of our points were accumulated in the first half of the season. Our recent form indicates that we are now bottom half of the table material and on a rapid decline. On current form we may just sneak into the playoffs, and what an anti climax that will be. Yes I've read the bit about our last nine games and if the results were spread out over the rest of the season...blah blah blah, that's just people (MM in particular) trying to lighten things. Its going to be a roller coaster finish, with the lead we had, it really shouldn't be. -- *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Steven Millward *Sent:* Tuesday, 17 February 2009 13:52 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? We have a good chance of getting promoted. We are, I still believe, one of the best two teams in the division. On balance so far, we are *the*best team as we have scored the most points. If these last nine matches had been interspersed amongst the other games, we'd still be where we are, it's just that we wouldn't have convinced ourselves that we were going up without any difficulty. We might have been intermittently swapping places with Brum and Reading over the last four months. If that had happened we'd be very happy being top by now, and clear of third place. There is a lot of sceintific evidence that a person's long term average happiness cannot really be moved, even for people that are supremely successful or make a lot of money. Therefore, all happiness is measured relative to that long term average. I think in the case of football, the long term average is measured against the current season, and the season before. Being only a couple of points clear is worse than being seven points clear, so we are unhappy. If we had been seventh in the league two months ago, we'd be delighted with our position, wouldn't we? So just relax. It does however, seem to be a fact that wherever we are in the table you're never happy. If we were promoted by now, you'd be moaning that we had no chance of staying up. The key is to be grateful for where we are in the league,
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Time for optimism as I can't countenance the alternative. We are still top of the league with 13 games to go and I'm sticking to my prediction of 92 points. How we have managed to stay in this positon playing absolute s***e for months amazes me? Just shows how ordinary the other competiton is. Why can't we turn things around now? 29 points from a possible 39? Very achievable on early season form, nigh on impossible based on current form. The rot will stop this weekend and I wouldn't be surprised to see a central midfielder arrive on loan soon. Everyone's view or prediction on here could be right, that's the beauty of following the Wolves all these years. As we all know you can never predict what they are going to do next!! _ From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Chantry Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 4:16 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] Isn't it strange how earlier in the season when we were doing well almost everyone on this list was make predictions about where we would finish if we maintained the current form of averaging X points per game. But now that we're not doing so well, some people have tried to change the focus to look at the points that we have in the bank saying that everything is rosy because we have X points in the bag (mainly accumulated earlier in the season) and are ignoring the current form (ie average points per game) which was such an important harbinger only 2 months ago. Why is that so? _ From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nick Curtis Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 3:45 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] We are third from bottom in current form based upon the last 8 games! _ From: Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.au To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 17 February, 2009 2:08:58 PM Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? [sec=unclassified] On balance I'd say we are now one of the worst teams, we need to take into account that most of our points were accumulated in the first half of the season. Our recent form indicates that we are now bottom half of the table material and on a rapid decline. On current form we may just sneak into the playoffs, and what an anti climax that will be. Yes I've read the bit about our last nine games and if the results were spread out over the rest of the season...blah blah blah, that's just people (MM in particular) trying to lighten things. Its going to be a roller coaster finish, with the lead we had, it really shouldn't be. _ From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswol...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 13:52 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: [NSWolves] Re: Where are you Steve? We have a good chance of getting promoted. We are, I still believe, one of the best two teams in the division. On balance so far, we are the best team as we have scored the most points. If these last nine matches had been interspersed amongst the other games, we'd still be where we are, it's just that we wouldn't have convinced ourselves that we were going up without any difficulty. We might have been intermittently swapping places with Brum and Reading over the last four months. If that had happened we'd be very happy being top by now, and clear of third place. There is a lot of sceintific evidence that a person's long term average happiness cannot really be moved, even for people that are supremely successful or make a lot of money. Therefore, all happiness is measured relative to that long term average. I think in the case of football, the long term average is measured against the current season, and the season before. Being only a couple of points clear is worse than being seven points clear, so we are unhappy. If we had been seventh in the league two months ago, we'd be delighted with our position, wouldn't we? So just relax. It does however, seem to be a fact that wherever we are in the table you're never happy. If we were promoted by now, you'd be moaning that we had no chance of staying up. The key is to be grateful for where we are in the league, rather than being sad about where we could have been There are people who see the glass half empty, people who see it half full, and you, who sees it smashed on the floor with the contents making a permanent stain on the carpet and an enduring fear of getting shards of glass in your feet when you walk over it. And what a waste of money it was smashing the glass. Oh my! 2009/2/17 Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.com Where are you Steve? We are missing your optimism during this dire period of form. We need answers to what is going on. How did your investigations go into the clumpiness of MM? Are we
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This brings me back to my original point. When Wolves are playing well, you expect their form to turn bad. When Wolves are playing bad you expect their form to stay bad. When we were playing well I don't recall saying anything to suggest that I expected our form to suddenly turn bad. I do remember saying however that there were numerous games leading up to our current poor form where we played badly but still managed to get points. Since that point we have done stuff all to show that we have the ability to improve our chances of promotion (SEB's hattrick aside). If we were showing glimpses of brilliance or we were continually loosing because of bad luck/ bad decisions then I would expect our luck to change and our form to improve. But all of the reports, the highlights, the internet commentary all make it abundantly clear that we do not even look like reversing our poor form. Have you seen anything in the last month/2 months to suggest we are on our way to improving our current predicament? If not, how can anyone reasonably expect our current form to do anything other than stay bad? The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way and should destroy any copies. Macquarie does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Macquarie. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Pig's pudding - it's a mon's dinner aer kid -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
